Hi Everyone,
As some of you may know, I broke the screen on my tab awhile ago. I only recently managed to secure the funds to repair the screen, however, seeing as I live in the US, it will still take me a good while to get my device fixed.
What I would prefer is to instead use an i815 as my main development system, and use the p6810 I have to make sure that I don't break anything for the international users. This will make it easier for me if I have any future hardware issues since I only have to deal with the US branch of Samsung and Verizon. It will also mean that I can add support for the i815 with my CM port much more easily. Also, it would mean that I could get back to developing more quickly as I would not have to wait for my device to return.
I cannot afford to purchase a new tab at this time, however, many people have been very generous and have asked to donate. I am very hesitant to the idea of donating for the reasons I discuss in at the bottom of this post (make sure you read it). However, since many people are eager for me to be able to start developing again, and for support on the i815, I figured it is fair to allow people to donate to that cause.
I have not yet gotten my screen repaired (although I have started along the track of getting it repaired), so depending on the interest and amount people donate, I might not get my screen repaired and instead use the money I've saved up to help in purchasing an i815. Regardless of whether I repair my screen or not, I intend to fully support the international versions of the Tab 7.7 (after all, I've done a ton of work for them already ).
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locerra said:
The reason why I don't like to take donations is because, despite the name, when people "donate" they frequently (sometimes subconsciously) expect a product in return (in this case a fully functional CM9). That is something that I cannot guarantee since I only do this as a hobby and may not have the knowledge and/or time to fix all of the current outstanding issues. As long as this is very clear to people and they promise not to dirty this thread with requests for ETAs and whatnot, I might consider donations.
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Well there's absolutely no devs on the i815 so I can say I'd pledge a donation on my next payday assuming end of month is good. Gonna put up a PayPal or just have interested ppl pm you?
Either way your cm undertaking seemed impressive, wish you luck with whatever you choose to get whether it's repair or the i815
Edit: didn't see donation button on my phones tapa lol. Will plan to donate on payday
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i815 is the LTE Verizon version, right?
I suppose that wifi and hardware acceleration issues are the same of international version... So I'll be happy to donate... I'll do it as soon as I come back from work tonight.
Thanks Locerra for your efforts
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$25 your way. Plan to drop another $25 later.
I say get that i815 first
I HAVE SENT YOU ALL MY MONIES> THX>. Now let's get back to hacking. I'm lonely.
Will Pay Tomorrow 50 Euros. I hope youre back Soon
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$20 from Italy! :good:
donation complete, 50US, I'd love to help too, let me know what you need
I've got access to several servers both dedicated and virtual
can write application layer code etc
hit me up for an offline conversation as to what else might be doable
--tr
Thanks for your generosity guys, it is very appreciated. I'm at about $150 now (due to paypal tax), so there is still a bit of a ways to go.
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Thanks for your generosity guys, it is very appreciated. I'm at about $150 now (due to paypal tax), so there is still a bit of a ways to go.
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Thanks for the hardwork and just donated 20$. Hope your screen would be fixed very soon.
From a P6800 user.
20$ sent for your work
two thumbs up for your work - just love it - 40$
I just sent u some support. Hope it all pans out!
$20 us sent.
Hrmmm I wanna donate but I am thinking about selling my i815.. so i guess i can sell it to locerra for a good deal so he wont have to raise as much money!
I'm curious to hear your thoughts on getting voice/text to work on the i815?
I'll be donating $20 US on Friday -- just waiting for the ol' paycheck.
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I'm curious to hear your thoughts on getting voice/text to work on the i815?
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Not just this, but it would be nice to also have the bluetooth phone profile available, so that the tablet can pass incoming caller-id info to my bluetooth watch/handset.
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I'm curious to hear your thoughts on getting voice/text to work on the i815?
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Do you mean other than VOIP solutions like Skype? If so, I doubt it. You would have to get Verizon to sign off on having a plan with minutes on your tablet, which I very much doubt they would do since as far as official firmware goes the Tab 7.7 is a data only device. Since they don't do voice over LTE yet, you also can't just swap SIM cards.
Data is probably going to take a bit to get going anyway -- there are no Samsung devices running ICS with CDMA or LTE, other than the just recently (or soon to be) released Galaxy S III (at least as far as I know).
Would it help if I told you I can put my VZW sim from my Galaxy Nexus and 4G/3G work fine and switch between the two modes? There might be an extra modem that needs to be flashed to a specific partition but I don't think a plan from VZW will be the issue getting it to work.
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Hey guys,
I'm feeling rather enterprising at the moment. The question is, what would it take to get a clean/stock/aosp version of Gingerbread up and running for the Verizon Fascinate? Could an XPrize style reward work? If so how much would it need to be? $1000? less? A LOT MORE? Thoughts? PLEASE ANYBODY, THOUGHTS? I need replys from devs and non-devs... If there is enough interest we could easily setup a prize fund and have it auto-refund people if the prize was not attained within a given time frame...anybody?
/Andrew
UPDATE 1: I'm totally gonna set this up! See my latest post (pg.4) for more details and new questions.
UPDATE 2:
(1) Money is the strongest motivating force that we can use.
(2) Refunds will be available should you change your mind about supporting the XPRIZE.
(3) Waiting for an official release is futile. They are MONTHS behind on a Froyo release, and we will all likely have new phones with HoneyComb before we get gingerbread through official channels.
(4) The CDMA radio is understandable the biggest obstacle, money should at least get people to work more aggressively to fix this or pursue a leak.
(5) beg, borrow, steal, i want a true google experience with the ability to RULE THE AIR, on verizon.
"Can you hear me now?"
come on guys, i can tell this is getting a few views, just add a quick reply and say, that you think this a good or bad idea...please
Sounds appealing, but I don't think this is the ideal phone developers would want to spend time on. I'm using this phone simply as a bridge to the Nexus S.
i can understand the nexus S appeal, but i imagine there are many people who wouldn't want to leave Verizon. In fact i ditched my iphone not only because Steve Jobs is a prick, but more importantly because Verizon has a much better network...
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Sounds appealing, but I don't think this is the ideal phone developers would want to spend time on. I'm using this phone simply as a bridge to the Nexus S.
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Oh, and it looks like you may not even have a Sansung Fascinate...on verizon...which is the phone i am posting about. Most of the Galaxy S variants are GSM/HSPA phones, the fascinate is a CDMA/EVDO phone and seems to be not benefit as much from the development on the other variants because of its different modem/radio. This is why i think we (verizon facinate owners) need to put some incentives out there...
I like the idea, just not sure how viable it actually is.
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I like the idea, just not sure how viable it actually is.
+1
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Oh, and it looks like you may not even have a Sansung Fascinate...on verizon...which is the phone i am posting about. Most of the Galaxy S variants are GSM/HSPA phones, the fascinate is a CDMA/EVDO phone and seems to be not benefit as much from the development on the other variants because of its different modem/radio. This is why i think we (verizon facinate owners) need to put some incentives out there...
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i agree with this
Would gladly donate a few bucks for that sweet Gingerbread..
It's a nice idea but I don't think it'll go. We don't even have a working port of 2.2 yet, nor AOSP of 2.2 running on this device... Would I like to see some gingerbread goodness? Why heck yes, but do I think it's possible...? Nope. Best just to wait for OTA release and modify it I say...
...Yes I know with samsungs history we wont see that until android 5.1 but that's besides the point!
I would gladly donate sounds like a good idea if we can make it happen
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Good idea sure
Although I have not done any really really heavy dev work for the platform, I think this is more a question on feasibility. Would I kick in for it sure, breaking totally free of the VZW\Samsung cycle would be great. However without some support or "leaks" making everything work would be a monumental task. At least if I understand the methodology.
i'd give at least $30 towards this..
I'm not going to say its not possible....but more like its not probable. It might get some money hungry devs on the fascinate though (ultimatedroid), so it cant be too bad. Well talk is cheap as they say.... So start the xPrize and see what happens...the worse thing that could happen is probably nothing gets done.
And i apologize right now in advance.... but this doesnt belong in this forum.... lol... i had to. im sorry.
Being a dev, I have to say its more trouble than its worth.
First we'd have to hack up at LEAST the .32 kernel and get froyo running. Without the froyo kernel source, its more of a pain than anything. Getting the system running to be compatible is no where near as hard as Getting the kernel.. That's something different.
I don't know what would be involved in making something like this happen, but I'd throw $50 at it.
Considering we don't have a fully working build of AOSP 2.1, I can't see this happening. Maybe if there is better source released for 2.2 when it gets here it will be easier, but I feel like if that happens, then devs would work on it anyway.
I don't think people realize that we've had aosp froyo all along. What we don't have is our driver specific kernel. We'll have gingerbread the day it becomes available but that doesn't mean anything as we won't have kernel again at the release.
@op you want us build up from the ground like we did with milestone? NONE of us will go through that hell again ever. $1000? haha that amount is nothing considering what we would put in if we were to build it up from the ground again.
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i have seen a prize work
a little history
my first smart phone was the VZ 6900 aka the HTC vogue
a windows mobile 6 phone that never had an "official" Rom or Kernel for android and yet the dev were able to not only build a fully working android 2.2 including getting all drivers to work, and as we speak those same vogue dev are now working on 2.3 builds, mind you i am not a dev and but i know this took a lot of work but a prize is what got the team moving and i would give $20 or more if we could get this going
So among poll responders most non-dev USERS would be willing to contribute some money towards this. Good news, but with only two responders claiming to be developers it's hard to say whether we could really get the interest of developers...perhaps i should PM some people? who are the big shot developers in these parts?
Simple question
IF $$ is the issue for Samsung cant we just make a PAY to upgrade option from them? Maybe they would go for it?
the 3rd Choice is supposed to be
Yes $0-$10 (GB)
Well, I personally am going to go with the "**** Samsung" option. Great choice!
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Well, I personally am going to go with the "**** Samsung" option. Great choice!
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Well @ this point im F*%K samsung too but i'd drop $20 for GB
Birdman is taking donations...
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Birdman is taking donations...
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Birdman has no working GB OR FROYO
Im talking a REAL working setup
(don't get me wrong ive already donated to him and kaos, my point is an official one built with the OEM tools would be nice)
stop buying Samsung phones for a month....I think they will get the hint
I'll take Kaos's build of froyo over a samsung build. I ran his froyo build for the eris for months with less problems then I ever had with the stock software. He is very good at what he does, just give hime some time.
I wouldn't pay Samsung one red cent for updating the Touchwiz crap. However, when it comes to the software our wonderful XDA devs crank out, I'll gladly join the cause. For the month I ran KaosFroyo on my Eris, I donated $10. For the possibility of Froyo/GB epicness on my Fascinate, I went big and donated a phone.
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I wouldn't pay Samsung one red cent for updating the Touchwiz crap. However, when it comes to the software our wonderful XDA devs crank out, I'll gladly join the cause. For the month I ran KaosFroyo on my Eris, I donated $10. For the possibility of Froyo/GB epicness on my Fascinate, I went big and donated a phone.
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Thank you BTW!
What's sad is that not even Windows charges for updates....just product keys....Linux doesn't either...so why should we pay Samsung when we already paid got the phone and contact?
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What's sad is that not even Windows charges for updates....just product keys....Linux doesn't either...so why should we pay Samsung when we already paid got the phone and contact?
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Well, first of all, Microsoft certainly does charge for OS upgrades, but not bugfix patches. Some my beg to differ, but I consider Froyo an OS upgrade. Granted, it's free from Google, but Samsung does put their work into it, and I don't necessarily fault them for considering it something they need to charge for.
That said, Apple also charges for updates, both for Mac OS and for iOS. In the case of iOS, the cost of the upgrades are figured into their contract with AT&T (and likely now with Verizon), so the carrier and/or customer pays for it one way or another. This is why iPod touch users have to pay for the major upgrades, because Apple won't give away the update. The thing is, if carriers can entertain this type of agreement with Apple, they should really have no problem doing the same with Samsung. Because of that, I fault the carriers more than I fault Samsung at the moment.
**** no and I wouldn't feel bad about pirating it.
The only way I'd even consider paying for an OS upgrade is if it was stock Android - no TouchWiz and absolutely no Verizon bloatware. Period.
I think this is a pretty good idea....let's forward the request to sammy. Get them to offer it via paid, everyone chips in a few cents, download it to one phone for the RIL file, let the devs rip it, where golden! ;-) because I'm not giving sammy another fcking dime of my money....well maybe a few cents.
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This is why iPod touch users have to pay for the major upgrades, because Apple won't give away the update.
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They ended that policy with 4.0, and they'd previously said that charge was required due to some sort of limitation or something another with their systems (don't remember exact wording, but it was likely BS anyways).
I just recently bought the Fascinate (mid-ish December), and probably would have returned it for the iPhone if I wasn't interested in doing actual development for Android (which is about $600 cheaper to get started, for me). The Fascinate hardware is top-notch, there's really no disputing that... it's just unfortunate that Samsung couldn't put any effort into rolling out updates (much less purposely holding off on updates just for a bullet point on the next gen models). Considering the situation, I would be flat out pissed if Samsung asked for money (even 9.99) for Froyo, largely due to the principle of the matter, and how much of a slap in the face it would be.
On the other hand, I would consider donating to PK and the others, they're doing this completely in their free time, and IIRC, PK doesn't even use the Fascinate, he just got one donated to him (who ever donated that is also awesome). Once there's a fairly stable Froyo/GB release with working GPS/Camera/3G/Voice/sms/mms, I'll then have to figure out who all I need to throw a few dollars towards
I'd rather donate to a developer than put more money in the pockets of rich greedy companies. F*CK Samsung.
$0-$00 for Gingerbread sounds like a good deal to me.
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$0-$00 for Gingerbread sounds like a good deal to me.
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$Cheap-$Cheaper sounds like what you are. At least donate some money to the devs who are gonna get you Gingerbread, or contribute to getting it done yourself, or better yet, do it yourself, then we'll gladly donate to you.
We already paid for Froyo when we bought our phones. These were marketed and advertised as an update coming soon. Had Samsung advertised these phones as is, and implied that no update was coming, there wouldn't be the outcry there is for this update.
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$Cheap-$Cheaper sounds like what you are. At least donate some money to the devs who are gonna get you Gingerbread, or contribute to getting it done yourself, or better yet, do it yourself, then we'll gladly donate to you.
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1) I was making a joke (albeit a dumb one) about the fact that the poll says $0-$00 rather than $0-$10.
2) This post is asking whether I would pay Samsung, not whether I would donate to the devs here.
3) I never implied that I wanted/expected donations.
I wanted to know if I should buy the unit unlocked now or wait till it comes out in America with AT&T?
If I wait for the AT&T version, though, it will likely come barraged with bloatware and features will be locked like tethering. I believe that rooting the Note will allow tethering and removal of the bloatware but I'm not sure. I am eligible for the 2 year discount if I get the Note with AT&T but how long will I have to wait?
I currently have the Dell Streak with a 5" screen and Rooted with a Streak-Droid custom ROM and all the bells and whistles included but this new G-Note is making me very happy! I gotta have one!
What do I do? $700 now with no Bloatware and tether ready or wait for AT&T to put there crap in it and pay $300 or so and then root it?
This is a video (a long a$$ video) of the Galaxy Note and Nexus World Tour in Europe. This should help you understand why this phone will be sought after sooooo much.
i have the same confusion.. but who knows when AT&T will get the phone.. 2 months or more wait i guess.. wait will kill me... on the other hand 700$ seems too much...
I have been battling this same debate.
Here's the pros to waiting:
1. Save at least $400.
2. Gives time to see what bugs may come out by first buyers.
3. Easier warranty replacement through local att store.
4. Better layout of buttons as ours will likely come with a search button.
5. Possibly an NFC enabled American version.
6. During your wait you fin out about another device right around the corner that blows this one away...samsung it notorious for announcing a new device that blows away their current devices. Who knows..super amoled plus hd 5 inch screen?
The negatives:
1. They get it first. You have to watch everyone enjoy their awesome device as you remain sleepless at night refreshes pages for an announcement of release here.
2. The wait could be anywhere from 2-6 months for a release here.
3. The international version will get updated first while we wait forever for ATT to approve the update here.
4. Missing the cool look of the one main button vs a stupid search button.
5. Lose interest...convert to being an Amish and start making your own jams.
I'm leaning more towards waiting, but my upgrade isn't up until Jan 1st anyway. I also don't see the benefit in buying an unsubsidized phone since we don't get lower monthly rates for it. I could maybe accept paying $400 if I could save $20 a month on rate plans over the next two years.
From my experiences, it's ALWAYS better to wait in these particular situations, where new technology is evolving so quickly. Let samsung work out the kinks on the 1st batch of notes. (i.e. 1st batch of ps2's were not as good)
I really wanted the samsung galaxy s2, but waited and now I'd rather have the note. Save money, and more better options will open up.
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From my experiences, it's ALWAYS better to wait in these particular situations, where new technology is evolving so quickly. Let samsung work out the kinks on the 1st batch of notes. (i.e. 1st batch of ps2's were not as good)
I really wanted the samsung galaxy s2, but waited and now I'd rather have the note. Save money, and more better options will open up.
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On the other hand, I enjoyed the sgs2 for about 6 months now and can sell it and buy another phone.
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Live is short. Enjoy its pleasures while you can. I got my sg2 when it was lunch in Europe 6 months ago and I've enjoyed it. I feel like it's time for me to move on to a device like the Note. I want a super amoled HD screen bigger than 4.3" so bad that I will pay full price if I have to. I just wish it had NFC.
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For me I just can't see spending that much on a phone so I will wait for AT$T to get it. I am also worried about the warranty.
I am glad that I am a physician.
Study hard and work hard and you get to enjoy the fun toys in life.
I just ordered the unlocked Galaxy Note. I will be enjoying it a few months and then sell it at a loss and buy another high end phone. $700 for a phone is a lot but then it only take me about half a day to make $700. I could never wait for 2 months to get a new phone that I want. Time is money.
Life is short, so enjoy the fruit of your labor. I encountered dead and sick people often so I get to appreciate life a lot.
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I am glad that I am a physician.
Study hard and work hard and you get to enjoy the fun toys in life.
I just ordered the unlocked Galaxy Note. I will be enjoying it a few months and then sell it at a loss and buy another high end phone. $700 for a phone is a lot but then it only take me about half a day to make $700. I could never wait for 2 months to get a new phone that I want. Time is money.
Life is short, so enjoy the fruit of your labor. I encountered dead and sick people often so I get to appreciate life a lot.
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What he said.
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Earthbrain said:
I am glad that I am a physician.
Study hard and work hard and you get to enjoy the fun toys in life.
I just ordered the unlocked Galaxy Note. I will be enjoying it a few months and then sell it at a loss and buy another high end phone. $700 for a phone is a lot but then it only take me about half a day to make $700. I could never wait for 2 months to get a new phone that I want. Time is money.
Life is short, so enjoy the fruit of your labor. I encountered dead and sick people often so I get to appreciate life a lot.
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Where did you buy it?
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Where did you buy it?
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I pre-ordered it at MobileCityOnline.com
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I pre-ordered it at MobileCityOnline.com
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If they had a date i might pull the trigger.
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I have another question to ask...
Is the UK version of...let's say... the SGS2 the same as the American version. At least as far as Hardware is concerned.
I'm curious if it is common for Samsung to have Hardware differences in the same phones for different countries.
Anybody know?
This would make a huge difference in my decission to wait or not.
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I pre-ordered it at MobileCityOnline.com
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I pre-order one also the 26 but still no ETA
If it makes any difference to anyone sitting on the fence: I just read an article that said the FCC passed an AT&T version of the Note today. At first I thought "who cares," because I'm debating pre-ordering too, and as anyone else considering pre-ordering knows, the european model has support for at&t's radio frequencies anyway. BUT, the article pointed out the support for HSPA+, which I didn't consider before. I don't really care, as it's never made much of a difference for me, but if you do care, there ya have it.
The wait could still be a long, long time, but I like to hope that FCC approval means it will be here soon. Then again, maybe Sammy is just being diligent with paperwork... does anyone know when the AT&T GS2 passed through the FCC?
AT&T announced two new phones today, if the note was going to be on their network in less than a few weeks, I think they would have announced the Note too
Hey, Earthbrain: I don't mean to start a fight or get off topic, but I have to address the comment you made earlier. My father was a physician too, and I know it takes a lot of work to get there, it involves long hours, and you deserve to make a great salary. Not debating that. And I applaud your advice to study hard and work hard. But I don't like the implication that studying hard and working hard = good income. Not because that's a bad idea (it's a GREAT idea!), but because it's extremely untrue. I'm a teacher, and I work damn hard. As hard as a doctor? I can't say, I'm not a doctor, but I doubt it's a significant difference.
I know you didn't mean to be a jerk - you meant to give good advice - but it just feels like a slap in the face when you're busting your ass all the time for completely thankless work that pays less than 30K. You work hard and deserve a good salary, I just wish the state/school could afford to pay me 1/4 of your salary. Hell, 1/8 would be a miracle. My advice to any youngster/grade school student reading these forums: Work hard, study hard, be kind, and if you want a good salary (which is a good thing to have), choose your career accordingly.
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If it makes any difference to anyone sitting on the fence: I just read an article that said the FCC passed an AT&T version of the Note today.
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That article is a month old.
FCC approval was a long time ago and unfortunately it does not mean that ATT is going to get it soon
You have to ask yourself if you can wait that long before AT&T releases it. It took nearly 6 months for AT&T to get the SGS2 from the time I bought my SGS2 from Expansys-USA.
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Hey, Earthbrain: I don't mean to start a fight or get off topic, but I have to address the comment you made earlier. My father was a physician too, and I know it takes a lot of work to get there, it involves long hours, and you deserve to make a great salary. Not debating that. And I applaud your advice to study hard and work hard. But I don't like the implication that studying hard and working hard = good income. Not because that's a bad idea (it's a GREAT idea!), but because it's extremely untrue. I'm a teacher, and I work damn hard. As hard as a doctor? I can't say, I'm not a doctor, but I doubt it's a significant difference.
I know you didn't mean to be a jerk - you meant to give good advice - but it just feels like a slap in the face when you're busting your ass all the time for completely thankless work that pays less than 30K. You work hard and deserve a good salary, I just wish the state/school could afford to pay me 1/4 of your salary. Hell, 1/8 would be a miracle. My advice to any youngster/grade school student reading these forums: Work hard, study hard, be kind, and if you want a good salary (which is a good thing to have), choose your career accordingly.
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Sorry for being a little off topic but I have to clarify after reading this post.
When I said "study hard and work hard" I implied that you will have better chance of having a good income. I did not make it absolute like you stated as "study hard and work hard = good income"
Nothing is absolute in life except for DEATH.
Doctors work very hard, but of course there are exceptions and there will also be "some" teachers who work harder than "some" doctors. However, to put it in some perspective, imagine that you are a "certain" doctor that have to go to the hospital at 6:30 am to do rounds and go home at 7 p.m after admitting all the patients and then there are days when you are on call in which you are constantly being awaken by the nurses or that your heart is beating more rapidly trying to revive a patient from a code blue.
Oh, and speaking of salary differences. An orthodontist who does braces normally make about 5X the salary of a general doctor and normally does not work as hard and has less responsibility. They both "have to study hard and work hard" .... so why is there such a big gap in salary?
Guys? Let's take this personal discussion of careers and salaries offline to Private Message.
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What he said.
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What that guy said!
I am going to begin a bounty to all of our devs of $100 to whomever can get a working unlocked bootloader for the Verizon 4GLTE P605V Samsung Galaxy 10.1 2014 edition. It's complete nonsense that going as far back as far as April (the first post I found searching for this) that there isn't a solution.... If you own this tablet variant as well, please jump on board.
Most devs for the 10.1 2014 have moved to the pro version. So this may be really hard to get. if you look at the unlocked versions there is little to no support for them right now as well.
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All the Verizon/Samsung locked bootloaders have been unlockable to date as well as the AT&T varieties. Check the S4, Note 3 and S5 threads.
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All the Verizon/Samsung locked bootloaders have been unlockable to date as well as the AT&T varieties. Check the S4, Note 3 and S5 threads.
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I don't really care about the S4, my Note 3 is already unlocked, and could care less about the S5 as well. What I AM concerned with is getting my 10.1 2014 Verizon edition unlocked so I can actually get TWRP on it an put on custom ROM's. For a forum filled with lots of experts and geniuses, no one seems to want to take any time or make any effort. I am literally begging! Using any version of Odin has failed trying to get TWRP on my tablet. All the ROMs I have looked at say to install that as a prerequisite. So what is a guy to do? Should I just put a round from my .45 through it and call it a day? I am outside the 14 day return window now with Verizon, so unless someone can give me a clue as to what I am doing wrong, then I am royally screwed..........
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I don't really care about the S4, my Note 3 is already unlocked, and could care less about the S5 as well. What I AM concerned with is getting my 10.1 2014 Verizon edition unlocked so I can actually get TWRP on it an put on custom ROM's. For a forum filled with lots of experts and geniuses, no one seems to want to take any time or make any effort. I am literally begging! Using any version of Odin has failed trying to get TWRP on my tablet. All the ROMs I have looked at say to install that as a prerequisite. So what is a guy to do? Should I just put a round from my .45 through it and call it a day? I am outside the 14 day return window now with Verizon, so unless someone can give me a clue as to what I am doing wrong, then I am royally screwed..........
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You are missing the point. Bootloaders are not a simple security hack. They are the proprietary coding that allows the device to boot. There is NO decompiling, sorting through code, figuring out the lock and then unlocking it. There needs to be an exploit to get in and change it. Which means there is a 99% chance the wrong exploit attempt will brick the device...an not the "brick" all these people talk about mistakenly on this site...a REAL brick...dead paperweight. Think that it is an issue with this sites "geniuses" not wanting to do it? Maybe you would understand better if you blindfolded yourself and tried to assemble a 5000 piece jigsaw puzzle....only you get an electric shock with every wrong piece you play.
I mentioned the other devices not to see if you "care"...it is to let you know the same method is employed to lock those as your tablet and they are just as popular with the "geniuses" that genuinely want to unlock the bootloader. AND have large bounties on them.
As to what are you supposed to do? Research next time. Buy products from a carrier that does not lock down their devices or buy a device that is not a commercial push to the military and corporate so that Verizon wants it locked down tight for more sales and contracts. Or continue to hold your breath throwing this tantrum you seem to be doing. Or...I don't know...use the tablet as it was designed to be used when sold and seems to work fine for the millions of customers who know nothing of XDA or rooting.
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You are missing the point. Bootloaders are not a simple security hack. They are the proprietary coding that allows the device to boot. There is NO decompiling, sorting through code, figuring out the lock and then unlocking it. There needs to be an exploit to get in and change it. Which means there is a 99% chance the wrong exploit attempt will brick the device...an not the "brick" all these people talk about mistakenly on this site...a REAL brick...dead paperweight. Think that it is an issue with this sites "geniuses" not wanting to do it? Maybe you would understand better if you blindfolded yourself and tried to assemble a 5000 piece jigsaw puzzle....only you get an electric shock with every wrong piece you play.
I mentioned the other devices not to see if you "care"...it is to let you know the same method is employed to lock those as your tablet and they are just as popular with the "geniuses" that genuinely want to unlock the bootloader. AND have large bounties on them.
As to what are you supposed to do? Research next time. Buy products from a carrier that does not lock down their devices or buy a device that is not a commercial push to the military and corporate so that Verizon wants it locked down tight for more sales and contracts. Or continue to hold your breath throwing this tantrum you seem to be doing. Or...I don't know...use the tablet as it was designed to be used when sold and seems to work fine for the millions of customers who know nothing of XDA or rooting.
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I would have to say that in reading text, it is generally hard to understand the tone of the text. While I wasn't throwing a tantrum, the tone of your reply is pretty unmistakable. When someone comes here genuinely looking for help and assistance with a device, is it a general practice to publicly belittle and berate them? As to my bounty, I started off low to see if others would jump on board or not. As to my carrier, I have been with Verizon from day one, get a rather large corporate discount from them on devices and accessories, and have 6 lines through them, so why just to get this tablet to do what I want it to, would I change carriers? Every device that I have had in the 'smart'phone era has been Verizon, and someone has found a way to unlock them. So I apologize if I came of looking like a prick, as that was not at all my intention. I would gladly personally pay up to $100.00 if someone could help. It is very frustrating to only be able to do half of what I want to achieve with my tablet. I'm as far as I personally can go on it. If anyone was offended by my wording, again, I am sorry for that. BTW, I changed the avatar that was only taken offense to after my post. Have a happy Sunday Funday! I know I will as I am already on bloody Mary number 4 here.
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I would have to say that in reading text, it is generally hard to understand the tone of the text. While I wasnt throwing a tantrum, the tone of your reply is pretty unmistakable. When someone comes here genuinely looking for help and assistance with a device, is it a general practice to publicly belittle and berate them? As to my bounty, I started off low to see if others would jump on board or not. As to my carrier, I have been with Verizon from day one, get a rather large corporate discount from them on devices and accessories, and have 6 lines through them, so why just to get this tablet to do what I want it to, would I change carriers? Every device that I have had in the smartphone era has been Verizon, and someone has found a way to unlock them. So I apologize if I came of looking like a prick, as that was not at all my intention. I would gladly personally pay up to $100.00 if someone could help. It is very frustrating to only be able to do half of what I want to achieve with my tablet. Im as far as I personally can go on it. If anyone was offended by my wording, again, I am sorry for that. BTW, I changed the avatar that was only taken offense to after my post. Have a happy Sunday Funday! I know I will as I am already on bloody Mary number 4 here.
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Your phrase that asks if you should put a bullet into your tablet certainly sounded like a bit of a tantrum. Sorry if I somehow misconstrued that. Then also sounding like you were belittling XDA developers because they did not unlock the bootloader yet.. Sounded a bit entitled. There are devices years old that have never been unlocked. I have done my best to explain why there should never be a time limit or expectations of the bootloader ever being unlocked yet you also shot that down as selfishly exclaiming you did not care about those examples and were only concerned about what matters to you. Did I leave anything out? Sorry if I somehow misinterpreted any of that. Sounds like you need to start making a decision as to what is more important to you, your corporate discount or an unlocked bootloader. Have your bounty but I already explained older Verizon devices with the same locked bootloaders has stumped the security geniuses so far.
$100
$100.00
$150.00?
The devs were never really all that involved with this tablet. It is highly unlikely they will unlock the Verizon version unless they figure out the other Samsung products. Even if they would unlock the tablet you my not get any devs that are willing to port their Roms over to the Verizon version.
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Ok, I give up
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Ok, I give up
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Say my friend..don't give up There are to many smart people at this forum... (and other forums) Trust me just have to be patient lol.. I am in the same boat some one will figure this out..
OK, I have a SM-P605v with a broken LCD (not the screen itself, but the display is discolored and not displaying correctly). It was previously Rooted and I have gotten screen emulators working when hooked up to my laptop. I would be willing to donate this to any Dev willing to work on the exploit. If there is a risk of bricking the device, then rest assured it's no biggie since the screen is bad on it. Please PM me if you are interested.
It's been a while now, anyone figure it out yet?....................................................
Has anyone tried the unlock script for the note 3 and note 4?
Here is the link to note 3.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/ver...l/official-note-3-verizon-bootloader-t3359370
I just got a SM-P605 that is unlocked. Once I figure out where the kernal came from perhaps I can be of help here. I really want to get this thing rooted and connected with my carrier. I had had a SM-P600, but it was smashed and could not be repaired. That's why I bought this tablet. Otherwise this P605 is totally stock and runs like a very well behaved powerhouse should.
Rob
i looked at this page it says u need root to use this .
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Has anyone tried the unlock script for the note 3 and note 4?
Here is the link to note 3.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/ver...l/official-note-3-verizon-bootloader-t3359370
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but dont you need a unlocked bootloader to get root ?
No you don't need unlocked bootloader to root. I think I used towel root years ago to root this tablet.
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The devs were never really all that involved with this tablet. It is highly unlikely they will unlock the Verizon version unless they figure out the other Samsung products. Even if they would unlock the tablet you my not get any devs that are willing to port their Roms over to the Verizon version.
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You know I really loved my SM-P600, but it was badly damaged and I don't know how or where to order in the left speaker, on/off switch from. So got really frustrated advanced ordered an SM-P605v instead and was able to get one that has an unlocked boatloader. I've not rooted it yet, or mounted TWRP on it. I may not root it though I'd like to. Even so, I'm looking into it and while, though I'm extremely happy with it,I may eventually root it.
I've explored a lot of options so far and none of them, so far, work for an SM-P605v running Android 5.1.1.
I'll get back with you about a week from now.
By the way, this tablet, and the SGN Pro are still much more powerful and capable than the Surface Pro or IPad Pro. This, even though they are getting a little older.
By the way,I spoke to a friend of mine who owns the large IPad Pro today. Apple hasn't optimised the Home screen yet, even after all these months. You'd think they'd have done better by their consumer base by now.
Even so, I'm so pleased with the Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1(2014), both with the SM-P600, and the SM-P605. Unless Samsung releases a Tab A that has an S Pen and 32 gigs memory, or releases a substantial upgrade to the SM-P600,SM-P605, and SM-P607, or puts out a new SGN in the series with 64 our 128gigs internal, I'm not open to trading my tablet in. It'll be over my cold, dead body.
This whole thing just died from no interest other than from me, huh?
We need help from Developers who has worked on the Original (ZTE Axon 7) 5.5 Version. If we want our devices Rooted and Custom Roms we need to give every good developer that works hard for this community, we need to give them something to work for. We need to give them a Bounty if they can suceed in unlocing our bootloader and rooting our ZTE Axon 7 Mini.
Please pledge whatever you can afford even if its $5 the bounty will go to whoever can get our device rooted and unlock our bootloader.
LIST OF PLEDGES - PLEASE POST YOUR PLEDGES
drvsbsm - $20
So we are left to our great developers to make this happen. So place your pledges
I will keep this thread updated with all pledges that the people have made just post your pledge and I will add it to this first post. If you pledge, it will help. Developers have lives and they deserve to be compensated for thier time, we have really good developers and one of them will crack this for us. If someone happens to find a cheap Axon 7 Mini it would most likely help our developers crack our phone so they can work with the device and crack this phone, I know that if we dont get root or an unlocked bootloader this phone was really not worth it in my opinion and I will never buy from ZTE again unless they change thier policy and give us the same rights as they gave the Original Axon 7.
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Please pledge whatever you can afford even if its $5 the bounty will go to whoever can get our device rooted and unlock our bootloader.
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Put me down for $20 to first developer who shows us how to root our device.
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Put me down for $20 to first developer who shows us how to root our device.
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i have no problem with this either...... I have already heard UnjustifiedDev say he was going to receive his mini sometime this week and hopefully it won't be long thereafter. Says he's waiting for his device and N update to get started.
Put me down for $5. I just got my zte Axon 7 mini and really like it. Especially for only paying 199. But I can't believe we don't have twrp, or any roms. But maybe there waiting for nougat which is right around the corner.
According to UnjustifiedDev, Mini's are very hard to get right now and the ZTE development team for it is different than the Axon7 team. I would be happy to add $20 to this bounty,but it looks like we may have to raise the funds just to get a device in his hands so he can have a device to work WITH. Any ideas for this to happen would be greatly appreciated i'm sure,but if he can't get a device,then we are pretty much stuck.
So we have 45 as of now? I believe that Best buy is still selling them for 199.99. Like 215 with tax. I think that is the cheapest you can get right now.
Edit:. Just looked on eBay and thee are a few for 168. And no tax
We need a lot more people participating
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So we have 45 as of now? I believe that Best buy is still selling them for 199.99. Like 215 with tax. I think that is the cheapest you can get right now.
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It would be nice to get a large group together to finance this,but a lot of the people on the ZTE forums who own a mini are participating in the nougat beta test,so i suspect we won't hear anything from them for awhile.
Maybe we can get a worldwide group together and make it happen.
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Maybe we can get a worldwide group together and make it happen.
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we can call it WWF ( world wide funding ) root for the ZTE axon 7 mini!
Technically a non profit organization
Count me in if you know how to organize it
World Wide Funding
nebula37 said:
we can call it WWF ( world wide funding ) root for the ZTE axon 7 mini!
I don't have a clue how to organize it. But hopefully someone here does. I would hate to have to sell off my sweet little Mini for an upgrade before it's time.
Technically a non profit organization
Count me in if you know how to organize it
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Lol. Good one
i'll make a decent pledge in a few days when i get money. alternatively.. i would temporarily donate my 7 mini if i were 100% guaranteed to get it back in working condition, i like this phone but it still feels so ..empty. if that's in the realm of possibility, let me know!
I pledge $25 to developers to help Root this device & get TWRP.
I purchased this phone this week. I like the phone. The phone is really a good value for what you pay for it. Very well made, quality materials, construction & decent specs for the price.
Very disappointed to find out that there is no TWRP Recovery & No Root for ZTE Axon 7 Mini (B2017G).
Put me down for $10 also.
got my money up, put me down for $40!! so worth it.
This is looking really good!!! If you know a friend who is a dveloper and has worked onZTE devices before that might be a good start.
140 total
Many small numbers make one big
I'll Put down $10
Shoot, I'll do $20
You can get the axon 7 mini for 140 off swappa. There is 2 listing right now for 155, But i'm sure you can negotiate 140. Then send the phone to the dev. Looks like there is enough pledged for that now.
I´ll put 5 bucks, i dont have a job right now, but want root