Morning all !
Grand Theft Auto : San Andreas
Did anyone else buy this via the play store yesterday on release ?
When they finally made a usable release !!
1.03 now I think
Does anyone else think the performance is very bad for a new phone that's meant to be one of the more powerful handsets on the market ?
I've tried everything to get the game to run as smooth as it does on the Note 2 and other Mali 400 devices( which look like the can run the game as nice as the iPhone's do ! , the game lets us take control of the Graphics settings but ...everything set to low it runs above 30-40 but looks like a Lego city with no nice effects :crying:
everything on high it runs 10-15 fps.
Just stumbled really ! Is the Snapdragon 800 really not capable of keeping up ?
any suggestions or workarounds would be really appreciated - or even if you can confirm your device is choppy with this game.
that's because the note 2 has a 720p display so on ""max"" its gpu has to draw only 1280x720 pixels, meanwhile the N3 has fullhd display so the cpu has to draw more pixels and you want it to bear with highest settings. That's the bad thing about android - every time a more powerful procesor comes out it gets nerfed down by the more pixel displays, so performance of games stays about the same (sometimes even worsens)
Worst part is the batteries evolve with speed nowhere close to the speed of pixels and cpus evolution
after fullHD I think all companies should take a 2 year break and focus on making more powerful and more power efficient processors + better batteries instead of adding more useless pixels which in normal conditions u can't even see...
mitaka963 said:
that's because the note 2 has a 720p display so on ""max"" its gpu has to draw only 1280x720 pixels, meanwhile the N3 has fullhd display so the cpu has to draw more pixels and you want it to bear with highest settings. That's the bad thing about android - every time a more powerful procesor comes out it gets nerfed down by the more pixel displays, so performance of games stays about the same (sometimes even worsens)
Worst part is the batteries evolve with speed nowhere close to the speed of pixels and cpus evolution
after fullHD I think all companies should take a 2 year break and focus on making more powerful and more power efficient processors + better batteries instead of adding more useless pixels which in normal conditions u can't even see...
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I get that but, how is it that this phone runs more intensive games better than my note 2 would
also in regards to the resolution, I'm having it set to the lowest in game ( looks like minecraft )
But yeah, They should stop being stupid with silly resolutions now, its almost UN-noticeable anymore
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dude if u are set on lowest and u have lag, (i see you are using xnote) install latest xnote (version 7, based on ML2) and then try it, I was on xnote 6.0 and did a clean install (with wipe data) and am using the AOSP theme, no other mods/OCs and i just tested cracked SA (1.02) and on highest everything i have REALLY little lag idk, i would tell you to wipe cache but im not a dev and idk what might happen (i dont think anything bad can happen tho) xD
P.S. Are you sure you disabled Power Saving mode because that thing makes graphic intense games lag as **** because it forces cpu and gpu to use lower frequences than their max (to saving battery lol) so of course it will lag
mitaka963 said:
dude if u are set on lowest and u have lag, (i see you are using xnote) install latest xnote (version 7, based on ML2) and then try it, I was on xnote 6.0 and did a clean install (with wipe data) and am using the AOSP theme, no other mods/OCs and i just tested cracked SA (1.02) and on highest everything i have REALLY little lag idk, i would tell you to wipe cache but im not a dev and idk what might happen (i dont think anything bad can happen tho) xD
P.S. Are you sure you disabled Power Saving mode because that thing makes graphic intense games lag as **** because it forces cpu and gpu to use lower frequences than their max (to saving battery lol) so of course it will lag
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Wow - This actually worked a little, the FPS has defiantly gone up quite a bit, Its playable with decent settings now, bit laggy here and there on Max where as before it was just a constant lag fest.
Nah I always make sure my power saving mode is disabled before playing games !
Can i just ask what settings you use for a constant framerate 30-40+ ?
Display ( Heres mine ) this gets 30+ and very little below that
Visual Effects : High
Resolution: 100%
Draw distance: 70%
Shadows: Classic
Car reflections: Low
Ive thanked your prev post tho
(fsdgjakfhgkjhsafdgkjsdhgfjkhsdafsdaf my first thanks *dies*)
just installed fps tracking program
on complete max settings i get 25-30 fps with only sometimes dropping to 16-19fps (btw if you bought game from google play it may be different since its 1.03 and im using 1.02 (no-one has cracked 1.03 yet))
*2 minutes into testing random options*
WHAT THE STIH I GET LOWER FPS WHEN I LOWER DOWN GRAPHICS/VIEW DISTANCE/ RESOLUTION
LMAO
dude I don't think 25-30 fps is unplayable, i know that if you're a pc gamer most things under 60fps look kinda laggy (console peasants and their 30fps with upscaled resolution don't) but on phone it isn't really that noticable. I have no idea why the framerate drop appears at lower settings, am currently using
visual effects high
resolution 100
draw distance 50
shadows classic
car reflections detailed
and it drops to 5-9 fps every 20-30 seconds and it lasts about 5-10 seconds each time
*2 more minutes later*
I can confirm that on highest settings it runs smoother than on mid settings
i don't know how i feel about this...
just tried lowest settings and the program im using (FPS Meter, google play id - com.aatt.fpsm) shows 30-35 fps
ok now i think you were right, this game is fu**ed up
P.S. LOL im so dumb, just noticed, every time i said i was using max i actually had everything max except car reflection which was on detailed instead of max. just tested with max and it has GREAT impact on the fps, whenever a car runs into scene framerate drops from 25-30fps to 10-15 fps.
Ok so after this P.S. i decided to play around with car reflection options. It's the only thing that really changes framerate a lot. When everything else is max and car reflections is off i have stable 30 fps
i didn't get any 40+ fps tho, maybe its the fps tracking program, So i think best settings are everything max with car reflections off
mitaka963 said:
(fsdgjakfhgkjhsafdgkjsdhgfjkhsdafsdaf my first thanks *dies*)
just installed fps tracking program
on complete max settings i get 25-30 fps with only sometimes dropping to 16-19fps (btw if you bought game from google play it may be different since its 1.03 and im using 1.02 (no-one has cracked 1.03 yet))
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Haha, Good post.
I doubt 1.03 is much different apart from fixing the loading issue they had.
Yeah , coming from PC gaming has really given me a bad eye for fps, if its under 30 it drives me wild ! I just love having a silky smooth game
I think that whenever you change some of the settings in game, it needs to be restarted to have the full effect ! Playing around with the settings a lot laggs me a lot more so maybe it just gets a bit confuzzled with all the changes.
I use fps meter too and i think it does actually have a negative impact on the game's fps.
Ive upped everything now to Max apart from car reflections and shadows set to classic, running a smoother 30fps + with a dip every now and then so happier now, its just dissapointing to think the Snap800 cant handle this! But lets hope its just not the best optimized yet and they update it - I think the other 2 GTA games run slightly laggy with the snapdragon chip as its mainly optimized for the Mali gpu's
no doubt i'll continue to play around and if i find something that sorts it, i'll post it here.
but thanks for your help dude, much appreciated :good:
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FYI: The game was closed and restarted AND removed from memory after each graphics change.
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FYI they brought out an update which should fix many issues
And you screenshots are like 100x50px if i try to look at em
hit 'thanks' if i helped you
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Does anybody know what is the problem? Seems to affect only our device...Whyyyyy? I bought myself a GameKlip for this game And it lags even on high settings(not to mention max)
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Ah they should expand... They do on the desktop site.
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FYI they brought out an update which should fix many issues
hit 'thanks' if i helped you
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The update was to fix the loading crash error nothing was changed in regards to performance
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GeorgEveS said:
Does anybody know what is the problem? Seems to affect only our device...Whyyyyy? I bought myself a GameKlip for this game And it lags even on high settings(not to mention max)
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Try using low effects setting, full everything else, that helped me a lot.. I turn down shadows and reflections too lol.
It's not just our device, it seems more optimised for Mali gpu.. Where as we have the Snapdragon 800 (ironically the best mobile gpu out currently)
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Guys,I lost my save when I updated, I thought I saved it on Cloud, but didn't see that for Cloud saves are the last two in the save menu, I'll give you my "Social Club" acc if you can save your saves on cloud,last mision I did was with Big Smoke on the bike changing those dudes on the train, any save would be ok,I don't have the Nerv to Start from the bottom
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Anyone, Please
what about
limitator of frame?
on or off?
thanks
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lmSs_wByJc4
Okay, so you can clearly see that this guy has no lags on MAX settings. But he is using the Octa-core version... So I guess poor performance on Qualcomm chipsets?
After official update to KitKat, GTA San Andreas crashes. I try to start the game, then after loading bar reaches half, music stops and the game crashes.
Btw my graph. settings:
visual: low
res: 63%
draw dst: 55%
shadows: off
car reflections: off
With this setting I have great graphics, and have no lag at all.
But can anyone tell me why the game crashes, I tried with reinstalling and everything but with no success?
I'm using v1.03
GTA San Andreas on Galaxy Note 10.1 Gameplay
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KZEqgWE1EvI
hrvoje334 said:
After official update to KitKat, GTA San Andreas crashes. I try to start the game, then after loading bar reaches half, music stops and the game crashes.
Btw my graph. settings:
visual: low
res: 63%
draw dst: 55%
shadows: off
car reflections: off
With this setting I have great graphics, and have no lag at all.
But can anyone tell me why the game crashes, I tried with reinstalling and everything but with no success?
I'm using v1.03
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I thought I was alone but it seems that KitKat has ruined GTA SA
It doesn't work for me as well... Guess I'll wait for an update for the game to come out...
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2nd Report here 12/19/10: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=9939308&postcount=43
Hi, I know many of you are considering or at least curious about the Nexus S. Admittedly one day is hardly any time to play with a phone properly, I don't even think a week is enough, but here are some things that I would like to point out.
1) Screen is beautiful. I can't even explain how good it is. I've played with a friend's fascinate before, and playing with it vs having it for a whole day are 2 different things. I've had my N1 with me the whole time and I have to say the screen is just a night and day difference.
2) I've not noticed *any* speed increase in any possible way on this phone. I use Enom's ROM on my N1 which as you know is a stock based ROM, with Launcher Pro, and nothing is faster on the NS as far as I've noticed. Going from app to app, going to home screen, swiping between home screens. Which may be moot because nothing opens "slow" on my N1 that I've ever had a problem with.
3) Browser has not improved a BIT! I was thinking with the hummingbird processor and the amazing GPU that the NS has that there would be significant improvement in browsing. None whatsoever. Pages don't load any faster than on my N1, and more disturbingly Flash content also doesn't work ANY better. On high quality flash content, it still chugs just as much as the N1 does. This is the main reason why my phone may be going back before the 30 days are up.
4) NoLed is a life saver, but it's no replacement for trackball notifications.
5) Battery life and signal strength do seem to be a bit better on the NS.
6) GPS doesn't have any problems as far as I can tell. I've used it twice today and it's obtained a lock in the same amount of time the N1 takes.
7) Tried 2 games, dot2 and angry birds. AB seems to run a little smoother on the NS, dot2 seems to run worse :S
Overall, the lack of any real performance increase (save for the app drawer, which is the ONLY place I've noticed it), I'm most likely going to return the phone to Best Buy and just get it used when it's a lot cheaper on craigslist.
I hope this information is helpful.
Man, I was really hoping the NS browser would be better. Having Flash content on Android is great, but still has its issues.
How much better is the multi-touch? Thats my main complaint with the N1. I get a lot of miss touches and double hits, especially when using the kb at times.
BTW, could you post some shots of the N1 and MS screens side by side, or maybe a video of them running the same apps where you see increased performance on one or the other?
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Man, I was really hoping the NS browser would be better. Having Flash content on Android is great, but still has its issues.
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Flash still has desktop issues, how would it ever get good performance on a 4" inch device. (For example, a certain Wendy's Advert makes my cursor blink in an annoying fashion until I close that page) Flash is just lucky the alternatives are not nearly developed enough.
I have a feeling Google is going to regret the Nexus S after they see the LG Optimus X2. There is just no reason to buy a Nexus S when you could have had a dual core, better GPU based phone.
I think flash being slow has mostly to do with adobes crappy flash not htc or samsung. And I find it hard to believe there is no performance increase. This is by far the fastest / best android phone to get. Not sure if it's worth the upgrade for me being a vibrant owner.
Guys... if you have done any research u should know that the GPU in the Galaxy S phones is faster than the GPU in the LG Optimus X2...
If anyone is on the fence about this or waiting for Tegra 2, Flash works amazingly on the Viewsonic gtab with Tegra 2. Despite the fact that the device is very young and unoptimised it plays every flash video I have thrown at it perfectly smooth. Even fast paced action videos like surfing and downhill mountain biking. Full screen or embedded in the webpage at any zoom level and at higher resolution than the Nexus S too (1024x600).
The same flash videos play at about 12fps on the Nexus One and Captivate. The Captivate with JPU rom is a little faster and smoother at everything else at the moment though.
The browser in Galaxy S JPU rom seems far smoother than the one on the Nexus S from all the videos I've seen. Strange they haven't ported the improvements over to it.
EDIT: Forgot to mention that the browser on the gTablet isn't any better than the N1 aside from Flash.
ksc6000 said:
Hi, I know many of you are considering or at least curious about the Nexus S. Admittedly one day is hardly any time to play with a phone properly, I don't even think a week is enough, but here are some things that I would like to point out.
1) Screen is beautiful. I can't even explain how good it is. I've played with a friend's fascinate before, and playing with it vs having it for a whole day are 2 different things. I've had my N1 with me the whole time and I have to say the screen is just a night and day difference.
2) I've not noticed *any* speed increase in any possible way on this phone. I use Enom's ROM on my N1 which as you know is a stock based ROM, with Launcher Pro, and nothing is faster on the NS as far as I've noticed. Going from app to app, going to home screen, swiping between home screens. Which may be moot because nothing opens "slow" on my N1 that I've ever had a problem with.
3) Browser has not improved a BIT! I was thinking with the hummingbird processor and the amazing GPU that the NS has that there would be significant improvement in browsing. None whatsoever. Pages don't load any faster than on my N1, and more disturbingly Flash content also doesn't work ANY better. On high quality flash content, it still chugs just as much as the N1 does. This is the main reason why my phone may be going back before the 30 days are up.
4) NoLed is a life saver, but it's no replacement for trackball notifications.
5) Battery life and signal strength do seem to be a bit better on the NS.
6) GPS doesn't have any problems as far as I can tell. I've used it twice today and it's obtained a lock in the same amount of time the N1 takes.
7) Tried 2 games, dot2 and angry birds. AB seems to run a little smoother on the NS, dot2 seems to run worse :S
Overall, the lack of any real performance increase (save for the app drawer, which is the ONLY place I've noticed it), I'm most likely going to return the phone to Best Buy and just get it used when it's a lot cheaper on craigslist.
I hope this information is helpful.
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You should remember that not all the apps/games have had the chance to incorporate all the new APIs yet. The devs need to update their apps first.
Thanks for the hands on summary. Wouldn't blame U if deciding to take it back...
the nexus s sounds totally like something i should skip
heck ... i imagine later on xda would get most all the Ns googles into all the galaxy line up except NFC ...
Watching Amazon Video on Demand with my N1 was always choppy. Watching it on my OCed G2 is actually pretty smooth most of the time.
Here are some hard facts about NexusS performance:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/4059/nexus-s-and-android-23-review-gingerbread-for-the-holidays/8
I like to skip one generation at a time. To me the nexus s didn't advance far enough for me to abandon the 1. Besides. Mine is in flawless condition (although its my 3rd)
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Guys... if you have done any research u should know that the GPU in the Galaxy S phones is faster than the GPU in the LG Optimus X2...
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by a slim margine but the benefits of a dual core far exceed a single core along with SD slot and should be on 4g.
tr.slate said:
Man, I was really hoping the NS browser would be better. Having Flash content on Android is great, but still has its issues.
How much better is the multi-touch? Thats my main complaint with the N1. I get a lot of miss touches and double hits, especially when using the kb at times.
BTW, could you post some shots of the N1 and MS screens side by side, or maybe a video of them running the same apps where you see increased performance on one or the other?
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The multitouch is perfect. I've used the "yet another multi touch" testing app and it can notice 5-6 touch points (from what I've tried) and not have any problem distinguishing them or mixing them up during movement.
There really is no need for me to post any video of anything because like I said, except for the app drawer, I haven't noticed ANY performance increase in the phone.
draugaz said:
Here are some hard facts about NexusS performance:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/4059/nexus-s-and-android-23-review-gingerbread-for-the-holidays/8
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Great link, man. It's nice to see the numbers like that. I think any individual test doesn't mean a whole lot, but looking at them in total... I'm glad I didn't get the S lol.
Your results from flash are pretty disheartening.
Can you try www.engadget.com/video ? Are there really no performance differences?
Paul22000 said:
Your results from flash are pretty disheartening.
Can you try www.engadget.com/video ? Are there really no performance differences?
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Paul I will try that on my N1 and my NS when I get home and am on wifi and will report back here.
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There really is no need for me to post any video of anything because like I said, except for the app drawer, I haven't noticed ANY performance increase in the phone.
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Hmm, you might not notice it, but that doesn't mean the performance increase isn't there necessarily. Perhaps it's subtle, or perhaps some apps take advantage and some don't.
Check out this new article from Anandtech:
GLBenchmark 2.0 Released - Modern SoCs Benchmarked
http://www.anandtech.com/show/4064/glbenchmark-20-released-modern-socs-benchmarked
by Brian Klug on 12/17/2010 2:08:00 AM
Posted in Smartphones , GLBenchmark , SoC
We're constantly on the lookout for new benchmarks to use for benchmarking the latest SoCs in devices. Today, Kishonti Informatics released GLBenchmark 2.0, the latest version of its popular GLBenchmark suite for measuring 3D graphics performance across a host of platforms: iOS, Android, Symbian, Windows Mobile, and Maemo. We've been testing it out for a while now and have some numbers of our own and from the community results. The end result is yet another look at how 3D performance stacks up between nearly all modern SoCs.
GLBenchmark 2.0 - as its name implies - tests OpenGL ES 2.0 performance on compatible devices. The suite includes two long benchmarking scenarios with a demanding combination of OpenGL ES 2.0 effects, and individual tests such as swap buffer speed (for determining the framerate cap), texture fill, triangle, and geometric tests. GLBenchmark 2.0 also leverages texture based and direct lighting, bump, environment, and radiance mapping, soft shadows, vertex shader based skinning, level of detail support, multi-pass deferred rendering, noise textures, and ETC1 texture compression.
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We've been testing devices for a little while now and have a decent enough spread to make for some interesting comparison. The only extra consideration is that all of these were run at the device's respective native resolution. There's no way to change resolution, and likewise numbers cannot be scaled linearly because we may be memory bandwidth limited on some devices. GLBenchmark will join our benchmark suite for devices going forward.
First are the resolutions (native) of the devices themselves:
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Device Resolutions - GLBenchmark Native Resolution
Google Nexus One 800x480 WVGA
LG Optimus One 320x480 HVGA
T-Mobile myTouch 4G 800x480 WVGA
Samsung Fascinate 800x480 WVGA
Google Nexus S 800x480 WVGA
HTC EVO 4G 800x480 WVGA
Apple iPhone 4 960x640 DVGA
Apple iPad 1024x768 XGA
Motorola Droid 854x480 FWVGA
T-Mobile G2 800x480 WVGA
Nokia N900 800x480 WVGA
Apple iPhone 3GS 320x480 HVGA
Thankfully, comparison across devices running Android is easy thanks to the relatively standard WVGA resolution guidelines for high end devices.
GLBenchmark 2.0 - Egypt:
GLBenchmark 2.0 - PRO:
The first benchmark, Egypt, tests OpenGL ES 2.0 and represents the newest and most demanding benchmark. The second - GLBenchmark PRO - represents a suite that tests OpenGL ES 1.1 performance. Moving forward we will report these whenever possible on smartphone reviews.
Gallery: GLBenchmark Scenes - Egypt and PRO
It's pretty apparent right now that PowerVR SGX 540 still holds the lead, though the new 45 nm Qualcomms with Adreno 205 are a huge jump forwards from Adreno 200 performance wise. It's interesting that it looks like we're GPU or memory bandwidth bound on those new Qualcomms, as evidenced by the similar results the myTouch 4G and G2 post despite a 200 MHz CPU clock disparity.
http://www.youtube.com/v/C61xvxsUcTY?fs=1&hl=en_US&rel=0&hd=1
Overall, GLBenchmark is designed to showcase some of the OpenGL ES 2.0 features that developers may potentially use in future gaming titles. There are a lot more low level tests which we'll be playing around with in the future and using to test in much more detail.
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No I am sure that there are significant performance increases in terms of graphics for games and whatnot...but I'm saying that I haven't noticed any in daily use. Opening or closing apps, swiping between homescreens IS laggy once you put a lot of icons and stuff on there (unlike Launcher Pro..more on that next). Viewing websites, typing, scrolling is a little smoother in some places and some places it's the same...
Interestingly, once I installed launcher pro, the home screen swiping is now back to being as smooth as should be, but the app drawer on Launcher Pro is MORE laggy than it is on the N1 lol. If there was a way that when u hit the app drawer, LauncherPro would open the stock app drawer which is extremely buttery smooth, that would be awesome.
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Hmm, you might not notice it, but that doesn't mean the performance increase isn't there necessarily. Perhaps it's subtle, or perhaps some apps take advantage and some don't.
Check out this new article from Anandtech:
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Thanks for that, Paul. When they say:
It's interesting that it looks like we're GPU or memory bandwidth bound on those new Qualcomms, as evidenced by the similar results the myTouch 4G and G2 post despite a 200 MHz CPU clock disparity.
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What are your thoughts on this? If we're GPU-bound, dual core Snapdragon's won't help much. If it's a memory issue...is that solvable with the Adreno 205? I don't the S as a decent upgrade (despite some advantages, which I admit exist). I was leaning towards the LG Star or the new Moto dual core, but I see some advantages to sticking with HTC and the Qualcomm chip sets. (First, I've only used HTC for the last 5 years, despite purchasing other handsets for family/backup. Second, I was told the Snapdragon is held back by the GPU, and actually posts better FPU than the Hummingbird. Now that the 205s are present, I was seriously considering waiting for a dual core HTC device...)
Anyway, let me ask it this way, as this is the bottom line for a lot of us (though feel free to address any of the technical specs and reasons why): Which manufacturer do you think is better suited to kick out a killer device over the next 4 to 6 months? Is it Samsung, should they go dual core Hummingbird? (and we'll leave cheap plastic out of it, speaking only of internals and performance.) Do you feel it would be HTC with dual core Snapdragons and the 205s? LG with the Nvidia Tegra2 (unsure of their GPU and respective performance)? Moto? Someone else?
This has been talked about before but I'm really starting to think something might be wrong here. Is it 5.0? Is it art? Or could there be something else going on here?
I am unencrypted.
Rockstar just released Chinatown Wars for Android. New port of an old game and while driving around the city it lags like crazy. Tried it out on my N5 and it's perfectly fine.
Look at reviews on the Google play store other N6 owners are saying the same... The game lags. Yet I don't see any other reviews complaining about the same. One person on a Note 2 commented how smooth the game was.
Hand76 said:
This has been talked about before but I'm really starting to think something might be wrong here. Is it 5.0? Is it art? Or could there be something else going on here?
I am unencrypted.
Rockstar just released Chinatown Wars for Android. New port of an old game and while driving around the city it lags like crazy. Tried it out on my N5 and it's perfectly fine.
Look at reviews on the Google play store other N6 owners are saying the same... The game lags. Yet I don't see any other reviews complaining about the same. One person on a Note 2 commented how smooth the game was.
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Different resolution. Tell the devs to update their games. The phone is fine.
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Different resolution. Tell the devs to update their games. The phone is fine.
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Are you saying that because it has a higher resolution that's why it's lagging? Shouldn't the faster processor cancel that out.
Ok now explain why even while unencrypted games still load faster on my N5?
Madden Reviews. One poster said it played fine on his Note 4 but not on his N6. Aren't those both the same resolution?
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I get lag playing SpiderMan Unlimited .. No lag on my LG G3 with same resolution. Not sure what is going on
I'm chalking it up to an android 5.0 thing
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I'm very concerned too. It has been so great and the phone and OS were just released less than a month ago. Can't wait to see what's in store for us Nexus 6 users
This isn't a resolution problem.
There is an 8 minute gameplay vid of Chinatown Wars on Youtube being played on a Note 4, 3 days ago smooth as butter.
And Chinatown wars is not even a very demanding game. Both my N6 and N5 ran cool while playing it. But it lagging like hell on a new $700 device is 100% unacceptable.
Hand76 said:
This isn't a resolution problem.
There is an 8 minute gameplay vid of Chinatown Wars on Youtube being played on a Note 4, 3 days ago smooth as butter.
And Chinatown wars is not even a very demanding game. Both my N6 and N5 ran cool while playing it. But it lagging like hell on a new $700 device is 100% unacceptable.
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Get a different device, it's clear you've decided this one has issues
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Hand76 said:
This isn't a resolution problem.
There is an 8 minute gameplay vid of Chinatown Wars on Youtube being played on a Note 4, 3 days ago smooth as butter.
And Chinatown wars is not even a very demanding game. Both my N6 and N5 ran cool while playing it. But it lagging like hell on a new $700 device is 100% unacceptable.
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There are devices around that are specifically designed for games. Maybe try one of those?
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trickster2369 said:
There are devices around that are specifically designed for games. Maybe try one of those?
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Yea and that device was supposed to be a Nexus 6.
Is this not the most powerful phone with the biggest/best display on the market? Besides gaming what else would someone need all this processing power for? Facebook? YouTube?
This phone should blow away everything you throw at it... And right now it's not competing with a 1 year old device that's sold for half the price.
You people should be demanding answers as well.
Hand76 said:
This has been talked about before but I'm really starting to think something might be wrong here. Is it 5.0? Is it art? Or could there be something else going on here?
I am unencrypted.
Rockstar just released Chinatown Wars for Android. New port of an old game and while driving around the city it lags like crazy. Tried it out on my N5 and it's perfectly fine.
Look at reviews on the Google play store other N6 owners are saying the same... The game lags. Yet I don't see any other reviews complaining about the same. One person on a Note 2 commented how smooth the game was.
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Oh look a Rockstar game that is badly supported that runs badly. Almost as predictable as water being wet.
Skripka said:
Oh look a Rockstar game that is badly supported that runs badly. Almost as predictable as water being wet.
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How does that explain the Gameloft marvel game I was playing that lags bad?
Look I love this phone and will not be switching it out fire something else but there IS undeniably something going on with graphics performance
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I have been playing Family Guy - The Quest For Stuff for a while on my Note 3 and even on a Moto G. The Game was perfectly playable. On my new Nexus 6 it is lagging like crazy! I have tried several different demanding 3D games like Real Racing 3 for instance and most of them are working fine. I also don't think it is an Android 5.0 issue as my Moto G is running official Android 5.0 ROM. Maybe it is a combination between the high resolution and something else... I don't know...
The only thing i can think of are those read/write times. Even unencrypted my games take longer to load.
Now why are some games performing fine and others terribly?
Maybe certain games are loading more into ram from the start and it's smooth sailing? While others are struggling to load data consistently on the fly?
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The only thing i can think of are those read/write times. Even unencrypted my games take longer to load.
Now why are some games performing fine and others terribly?
Maybe certain games are loading more into ram from the start and it's smooth sailing? While others are struggling to load data consistently on the fly?
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According to some tests I did, the storage on the Nexus 6 is on the same performance level as the Nexus 5 and even just a little bit faster. (unencrypted). So there shouldn't be any problems. Also, I haven't seen any slow loading in any of the games I've tried. Family Guy, Real Racing 3, Plants vs Zombies 2...
You know what I'm in the same boat but I'm pretty sure it should be software optimisation missing, I run a really simple 8 ball game, nothing too CPU demanding, animations lags on my Nexus 6 but not in my Nexus 5. Something should be wrong but with the OS or apps.
I'd say art has a small part to play in this, but I also read about there being different brand memory installed on different nexus 6 devices that is believed to possibly play a roll in this. Out of the games I've played I've experienced zero lag and my load times are fine. I've read about people having lag on coc and coc has always played fine for me. Asphalt 8 runs great! Spiderman unlimited plays great, Temple run, mine craft, Terraria, pool break, etc... Maybe I've just been lucky.
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I'd say art has a small part to play in this, but I also read about there being different brand memory installed on different nexus 6 devices that is believed to possibly play a roll in this. Out of the games I've played I've experienced zero lag and my load times are fine. I've read about people having lag on coc and coc has always played fine for me. Asphalt 8 runs great! Spiderman unlimited plays great, Temple run, mine craft, Terraria, pool break, etc... Maybe I've just been lucky.
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Can you please reboot to Bootloader and tell us the model of the eMMC and the DRAM used in yours?
OrionBG said:
Can you please reboot to Bootloader and tell us the model of the eMMC and the DRAM used in yours?
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Samsung! Also I'm bone stock and encrypted!
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Samsung! Also I'm bone stock and encrypted!
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Both of them?
My eMMC is Sandisk and the DRAM is Hynix ...
It's been a long time since I held a Sony mobile device.
My psvita looks like a joke compared to it.
The speed and features are stunning and the battery life is not bad at all.
The whole out side body is sturdy and i love the device.
Well done Sony.
Won't be rooting it, wont be modding it for a long time.
Will be looking forward to have more devices from the Z series in my hand.
Compared with ps vita?
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Rly dude?
odie70 said:
Compared with ps vita?
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Compared to several devices i have held and modded.
So far my Z1 is a damn fine device.
If I could run my vita games on her "and yes she has the power" I would.
I know, I know everyone is expecting me to burst out with "what a pile of **** ***** and ****** ** The * *********"
nope i love this device.
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No i'm lying.. pfft.
XD you cannot troll the troll.
On a serious note it's a awesome device.
I just want the textures fixed for doom 3.
:edit and that seems to be fixed after the 5.1.1 update.
I'm very curious about how to made such a perfect FW like this. When I use my Z1, I find it seems to be made by computer like CM buildbot. I guess it's japanese style.
They should know how to google at least.
PielunA said:
I'm very curious about how to made such a perfect FW like this. When I use my Z1, I find it seems to be made by computer like CM buildbot. I guess it's japanese style.
They should know how to google at least.
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I think they spent a lot of time looking at fine detail and features.
I personally wish i could select a much darker theme.
But yeah Sony has always been good at making stuff look sexy.
I'm using a z1 right now the only thing I am not satisfied with is the battery life
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I'm using a z1 right now the only thing I am not satisfied with is the battery life
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I think the chip is clocked way too high to keep cool and be power efficient unfortunately.
The 3G, LTE radio is set way too fast and this adds more drain and heat.
So in fact the device is cooking itself to death just like the x10 did.
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I think the chip is clocked way too high to keep cool and be power efficient unfortunately.
The 3G, LTE radio is set way too fast and this adds more drain and heat.
So in fact the device is cooking itself to death just like the x10 did.
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Yea you are right my phone heats up while using data very quickly and the battery drains
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Yea you are right my phone heats up while using data very quickly and the battery drains
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They could pull down the speed on the 3G/LTE radio more.
As over 1MB a sec is overkill.
And i think this will be the thing that makes me root and drop in a custom kernel.
:edit
So yeah I suggest adding a 3G/LTE speed limiter in future builds for the phone.
Z1 is one of the best devices in the market
OmegaRED^ said:
They could pull down the speed on the 3G/LTE radio more.
As over 1MB a sec is overkill.
And i think this will be the thing that makes me root and drop in a custom kernel.
:edit
So yeah I suggest adding a 3G/LTE speed limiter in future builds for the phone.
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Cant relate to it. My Z1 is around 25 degrees in standby (battery) and CPU less than 40 degrees with ambient temp of 20-22 degrees. All power saving functions disabled and no queue for data. With use battery is 30-35 seldom reaches 40 and CPU between 45 and 60 depending on work. It's even less when on 4G instead of 4G + WiFi. I also got tons of background services running constantly like Adguard Premium (high quality for all apps filtering), KIS Security checking all connections and all file operations, Whatsapp, KiK, Messenger, Dumpster, GSAM monitor, ACR, Apex Launcher, AppLock, Clipper+, Gmail, Gravity Screen (proximity auto lock/unlock for flipcover), Greenify, HeadsOff, Notifyer+, TrueCaller, Type Machine, Weather Timeline, KCAL LCD calibrator and more.
Screen brightness 40-45%, sound enhancements on, X-Reality off, SOT around 4 hours (includes around 50 photos captured, photo editing on mobile and more).
Only time ever it heats to the battery to 45 degrees and CPU to 70-72 degrees is when clearing dalvik cache and it rebuilds it at boot (ambient temp 25).
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Cant relate to it. My Z1 is around 25 degrees in standby (battery) and CPU less than 40 degrees with ambient temp of 20-22 degrees. All power saving functions disabled and no queue for data. With use battery is 30-35 seldom reaches 40 and CPU between 45 and 60 depending on work. It's even less when on 4G instead of 4G + WiFi. I also got tons of background services running constantly like Adguard Premium (high quality for all apps filtering), KIS Security checking all connections and all file operations, Whatsapp, KiK, Messenger, Dumpster, GSAM monitor, ACR, Apex Launcher, AppLock, Clipper+, Gmail, Gravity Screen (proximity auto lock/unlock for flipcover), Greenify, HeadsOff, Notifyer+, TrueCaller, Type Machine, Weather Timeline, KCAL LCD calibrator and more.
Screen brightness 40-45%, sound enhancements on, X-Reality off, SOT around 4 hours (includes around 50 photos captured, photo editing on mobile and more).
Only time ever it heats to the battery to 45 degrees and CPU to 70-72 degrees is when clearing dalvik cache and it rebuilds it at boot (ambient temp 25).
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4G seems less problematic than 3G.
Low signal also effects heat.
Try playing Nova 3.
The phone turns into a nuclear reactor.
Yeah.. Now i am raging..
This phone is a cancer to unlock... Its a pain to figure out what roms will work and a total witch to fine tune. My s4mini took 1 day to get on a fully stable custom rom.
Idk wtf sony is thinking.. The cpu clock is way to high and the heat output is brutal.
Not everyone lives in a liquid nitrogen jar.
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You live in the djungle or? How hot is the weather Tarzan?
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You live in the djungle or? How hot is the weather Tarzan?
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Its about 25 to 30*c ambiently normally.
Plus with the increase in heat from global warming i see a sad future ahead for mobile chip developers.
My sgs4 mini never overheated this badly even when clocked to 2GHz
Im hoping that there is something i can do like disable 2 of the cores or drop the clock a bit once i finally get it properly on a custom rom else me and this device are going to be tough on each other.
My X10i also bloody overheated like this when downloading over 3G or gaming heavy stuff it drove me insane.
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Its about 25 to 30*c ambiently normally.
Plus with the increase in heat from global warming i see a sad future ahead for mobile chip developers.
My sgs4 mini never overheated this badly even when clocked to 2GHz
Im hoping that there is something i can do like disable 2 of the cores or drop the clock a bit once i finally get it properly on a custom rom else me and this device are going to be tough on each other.
My X10i also bloody overheated like this when downloading over 3G or gaming heavy stuff it drove me insane.
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Well I do agree they are putting in and/or clocking CPUs at such levels the heat dissipation aint really adequate and thus makes phones throttle CPU/GPU. Just look at early SD810 equipped mobiles. They IRL with random above normal workload performed worse than A SD800 equipped phone due to constantly throttling creating hitches. They design thermal dissipation to just be enough for benchmarks (where many are worthless and or easy to cheat 'legally'). Few mobiles you can run at 100% CPU and GPU load without them throttling at some point, earlier or later. Though the Z1 has quite good thermal characteristics and throttling should seldom if ever happen unless something is locking the CPU and GPU to 100% for prolonged periods.
For normal use, movies 4k, Youtube it is far from reaching throttling levels. Games I cant comment since I dont play on my mobile. Not interested and my opinion is almost all games are coded in a ****ty way using unecessary resources and the fact you cant even chose render resolution ingame is ridicolous. A game like Prey for PC would be perfectly doable on the SD800 at 1080 yet no Android game even comes close to such visuals.
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Well I do agree they are putting in and/or clocking CPUs at such levels the heat dissipation aint really adequate and thus makes phones throttle CPU/GPU. Just look at early SD810 equipped mobiles. They IRL with random above normal workload performed worse than A SD800 equipped phone due to constantly throttling creating hitches. They design thermal dissipation to just be enough for benchmarks (where many are worthless and or easy to cheat 'legally'). Few mobiles you can run at 100% CPU and GPU load without them throttling at some point, earlier or later. Though the Z1 has quite good thermal characteristics and throttling should seldom if ever happen unless something is locking the CPU and GPU to 100% for prolonged periods.
For normal use, movies 4k, Youtube it is far from reaching throttling levels. Games I cant comment since I dont play on my mobile. Not interested and my opinion is almost all games are coded in a ****ty way using unecessary resources and the fact you cant even chose render resolution ingame is ridicolous. A game like Prey for PC would be perfectly doable on the SD800 at 1080 yet no Android game even comes close to such visuals.
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Im a gamer that often ends up putting a device thru the acid test via extended gaming.
The heat generated in the Z1 is not good and could easily damage the hardware over time.
Now this concerns me as a device that can run games should not just be able to do this for demo purposes alone... Thats cheating. Sacrificing stability and device life expectancy for a mere chart topping benchmark score or to merely capture the eye of a consumer. Thats cheating and not a welcome trait.
Losing my respect for sony again.
The fact that the psvita was canned so early too.
It's not funny. Nova 3, neon shadow, all use unity.
Doom3 using Diii4A for example is nearly the same engine used for prey and the game runs flawlessly on the sd800 but the heat... Even when lowering the quality brutally the throttle on the cpu is too high. Nova 3 sadly has no quality settings so the 1080p resolution brings brutal overheating.
OmegaRED^ said:
Im a gamer that often ends up putting a device thru the acid test via extended gaming.
The heat generated in the Z1 is not good and could easily damage the hardware over time.
Now this concerns me as a device that can run games should not just be able to do this for demo purposes alone... Thats cheating. Sacrificing stability and device life expectancy for a mere chart topping benchmark score or to merely capture the eye of a consumer. Thats cheating and not a welcome trait.
Losing my respect for sony again.
The fact that the psvita was canned so early too.
It's not funny. Nova 3, neon shadow, all use unity.
Doom3 using Diii4A for example is nearly the same engine used for prey and the game runs flawlessly on the sd800 but the heat... Even when lowering the quality brutally the throttle on the cpu is too high. Nova 3 sadly has no quality settings so the 1080p resolution brings brutal overheating.
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Well pretty much all brands have phones that throttle early even the Iphone. If anything Sony phones are those that take the longest time to throttle due to relatively good design, aluminium besel and rigid 'heatsink' plate. Though it varies depending on SoC.
Anyone else notice the lag when playing games?
Especially Blazblue, Bleach Brave Souls, 3D games, etc?
WELL youve found the right place here!
ROOT SOLUTION (100% LAG FREE)
Buttery JUST like an iphone 7! 100% LAG FREE
1)Install BatMan Rom in the Samsung S8 Rom development (Credits for making the rom!)
2)Install PekakaKernel
3) Root as Usual with magisk
4) After phone has been setup, download Kernel audiutor app
5) Before you play your game, set Minimum and Maximum both to 2314mhz for the BIG cpu & LITTLE cpu & GPU to min & max 572mhz
6) Click on governor and change to "Performance"
7) At the top of the settings page, click Apply on Boot
8)DONE! Enjoy your iphone buttery Gaming experience!
My lag in Bleach Brave souls and every other game has gone. So happy I made the decision to go custom rom & kernel!
NON-ROOT SOLUTION:
(decreases lag by ~40%!)
1)Install new launcher (nova) or anything light weight. Do not use Samsung's stock launcher.
2) Install Samsung's Game Tuner App & set your game settings to HW +5, and your resolution to however you like. I have mine on 100% as it feels snappier.
3) DONE!
you should notice 30-50% less lag and games will be actually be "playable" (remember to always play with game tuner app, with HW+5 setting) but you will still feel the lag here and there and in certain graphic intensive situations, it will still drop frame but its your best non-root solution!
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Same here man. Even a game as simple as the Tsum tsum game lags. My wife ain't happy about that as her iphone had no issues with games.
royalbloodvi said:
Anyone else notice the lag when playing games?
Eg I'm playing bleach, when skills are used the phone lags like an iPhone 4. Now thus is a powerful device it should not lag lag like this.
Have expiremented with game launcher, high performance mode different resolutions, etc to no avail.
Anyone have same issues or possible fixes?
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What kind of lag are you experiencing in Bleach, Co-op lag or standard quest? I haven't had any issues, playing right now.
Just tried the game out and have zero lag. Smooth like my pixel.
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I would say when it comes to apps specially gaming give at least a month before updates for them start rolling out. Most of them aren't optimised for the Galaxy S8. Once updates start rolling out i believe the experience will get a whole lot smoother.
anybody plays Mobile Legends?
my problem is the game isn't smooth.
there's constantly lag/delay.
I've tried downloading Package Disabler Pro, and disabled GamePad & Game Services.
it did make my game smoother, but the lag/delay still can be felt.
You can really notice the difference when you play something on iOS then play on this phone. Marvel Contest of champions is my go to game. Open that game on this phone and on an iPhone, not onlky does the iphone open is much faster, going through the menus is a breeze.
Tsum Tsum lags on this phone as well compared to the iphone and so does subway surfers. This is pretty pathetic with suppose top of the line specs.
Same here. Playing Fifa Mobile and it lags. This is really frustrating. Such a device and than this. Even on my old huawei p9 no lags. Anybody found a solution?
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You can really notice the difference when you play something on iOS then play on this phone. Marvel Contest of champions is my go to game. Open that game on this phone and on an iPhone, not onlky does the iphone open is much faster, going through the menus is a breeze.
Tsum Tsum lags on this phone as well compared to the iphone and so does subway surfers. This is pretty pathetic with suppose top of the line specs.
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I was using Xiaomi MIX prior to S8+
MIX don't give me such a problem...
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I would say when it comes to apps specially gaming give at least a month before updates for them start rolling out. Most of them aren't optimised for the Galaxy S8. Once updates start rolling out i believe the experience will get a whole lot smoother.
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No, Mali g71 is already supported on Mate9/P10, while Adreno 540 on non Samsung device already runs Riptide Renegade at 2k ultra settings and 60fps for an hour!
The SoC is clearly crippled on the s8 for battery score, high performance mode is BS, you really can do nothing before root to fix it, believe me I have been trying on my friends s8
I haven't had any such problems and I play marvel contest of champions and star wars force arena.
Not a hint lag or slowdown hardwear wise.
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No lag on mine either. Whether gaming or during anything. Phone is extremely fast.
Another thing, Just play
Skyforce reloaded on an exynos S8 vs s821 device to see the much inferior graphics, Mali's support is not great
I have severe problems playing Hearthstone. It sometimes doesn't register clicks and freezes for a couple of seconds.
I have no problems with lag, but I do with crashing. Bleach Brave Souls is constantly crashing. Froze game launcher, no launcher.
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No, Mali g71 is already supported on Mate9/P10, while Adreno 540 on non Samsung device already runs Riptide Renegade at 2k ultra settings and 60fps for an hour!
The SoC is clearly crippled on the s8 for battery score, high performance mode is BS, you really can do nothing before root to fix it, believe me I have been trying on my friends s8
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High performance mode doesn't make any changes to the cpu or gpu, sadly - only display resolution, brightness, etc. g71 is on mate9/p10, but with less cores = less heat. Also only Samsung goes extreme to gain a little more battery life. Sad as in reality you pay so much for super high end phone and the games play worse vs 3 years old phones. This is unacceptable, but Samsung gets away with it every years and keep doing it.
I think anyone posting here should make the distinction of they have exynos or s835 s8, the exynos version is just pathetic in running any game and if it runs good initially just play 5 minutes before it goes to hell, a phone with such hype and raving reviews should not be given a blind eye about this, it's inexcusable including the UI which lags in every corner
I just hope the s835 version runs things better (I know the UK doesnt)
howdyace said:
I haven't had any such problems and I play marvel contest of champions and star wars force arena.
Not a hint lag or slowdown hardwear wise.
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That's a lie or you just haven't played it on iOS.
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howdyace said:
I haven't had any such problems and I play marvel contest of champions and star wars force arena.
Not a hint lag or slowdown hardwear wise.
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hamdir said:
I think anyone posting here should make the distinction of they have exynos or s835 s8, the exynos version is just pathetic in running any game and if it runs good initially just play 5 minutes before it goes to hell, a phone with such hype and raving reviews should not be given a blind eye about this, it's inexcusable including the UI which lags in every corner
I just hope the s835 version runs things better (I know the UK doesnt)
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I have the 835.
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That's a lie or you just haven't played it on iOS.
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I have the 835.
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Ah, I see. Must be my inability to distinguish lag in my games because of me not ever playing it on ios.
Good talks bro.
Peace in your life.
howdyace said:
Ah, I see. Must be my inability to distinguish lag in my games because of me not ever playing it on ios.
Good talks bro.
Peace in your life.
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Here you go, I video I just made.
https://youtu.be/t6O0do0_01M
So i have used this phone now for 3 days now. There's a lot of bloatware included in my device (China ROM) but i was able to uninstall most of them, System Apps not included. Then i tried to use a launcher with no success. The phone doesn't allow you to change default launcher. The selection pane is there but "Nova Launcher" is no where to be found. The 50W fast charge is the real deal and the 90hz display is fluid especially when compared side by side with a 60hz display phone. Brightness is awesome under direct daylight and the lowest brightness is also good on night time or before going to bed. The storage is very fast and i was able to install large sized games (2-4gb) with relative ease (around 5-10 seconds). Then there's the keyboard which sucks, cause it's tailored for Chinese people so i install "Switfkey". Overall the phone is a beast, i installed google play and everything went well after that. Battery is okay, 4000mAh, enough to last the phone throughout the day, with 90hz display enabled.
I have bought this phone for gaming. 90hz and 855+ is really what i'm after, which point's to the biggest disappointment for me. This phone doesn't run games on 90hz. i have tried several fps unlocked games and all of them hover around 50-60fps. Biggest turn-off for me.
Here's my rating so far:
Battery: 8/10
Charge time: 9/10
Ergonomics: 8/10
Size: 7/10 (it's pretty thick especially with a case)
Camera: no rate yet, more testing needed
Display: 6/10 (Big Disappointment, hope they give it an updated fix soon)
Performance: 8/10 (uses around 3-4gb of RAM without any opened APPS, need more RAM optimization)
Ganz Montejo said:
So i have used this phone now for 3 days now. There's a lot of bloatware included in my device (China ROM) but i was able to uninstall most of them, System Apps not included. Then i tried to use a launcher with no success. The phone doesn't allow you to change default launcher. The selection pane is there but "Nova Launcher" is no where to be found. The 50W fast charge is the real deal and the 90hz display is fluid especially when compared side by side with a 60hz display phone. Brightness is awesome under direct daylight and the lowest brightness is also good on night time or before going to bed. The storage is very fast and i was able to install large sized games (2-4gb) with relative ease (around 5-10 seconds). Then there's the keyboard which sucks, cause it's tailored for Chinese people so i install "Switfkey". Overall the phone is a beast, i installed google play and everything went well after that. Battery is okay, 4000mAh, enough to last the phone throughout the day, with 90hz display enabled.
I have bought this phone for gaming. 90hz and 855+ is really what i'm after, which point's to the biggest disappointment for me. This phone doesn't run games on 90hz. i have tried several fps unlocked games and all of them hover around 50-60fps. Biggest turn-off for me.
Here's my rating so far:
Battery: 8/10
Charge time: 9/10
Ergonomics: 8/10
Size: 7/10 (it's pretty thick especially with a case)
Camera: no rate yet, more testing needed
Display: 6/10 (Big Disappointment, hope they give it an updated fix soon)
Performance: 8/10 (uses around 3-4gb of RAM without any opened APPS, need more RAM optimization)
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Whats wrong with the display?? Reviews on youtube said dey wer excellent albeit with a blue tint
Ganz Montejo said:
So i have used this phone now for 3 days now. There's a lot of bloatware included in my device (China ROM) but i was able to uninstall most of them, System Apps not included. Then i tried to use a launcher with no success. The phone doesn't allow you to change default launcher. The selection pane is there but "Nova Launcher" is no where to be found. The 50W fast charge is the real deal and the 90hz display is fluid especially when compared side by side with a 60hz display phone. Brightness is awesome under direct daylight and the lowest brightness is also good on night time or before going to bed. The storage is very fast and i was able to install large sized games (2-4gb) with relative ease (around 5-10 seconds). Then there's the keyboard which sucks, cause it's tailored for Chinese people so i install "Switfkey". Overall the phone is a beast, i installed google play and everything went well after that. Battery is okay, 4000mAh, enough to last the phone throughout the day, with 90hz display enabled.
I have bought this phone for gaming. 90hz and 855+ is really what i'm after, which point's to the biggest disappointment for me. This phone doesn't run games on 90hz. i have tried several fps unlocked games and all of them hover around 50-60fps. Biggest turn-off for me.
Here's my rating so far:
Battery: 8/10
Charge time: 9/10
Ergonomics: 8/10
Size: 7/10 (it's pretty thick especially with a case)
Camera: no rate yet, more testing needed
Display: 6/10 (Big Disappointment, hope they give it an updated fix soon)
Performance: 8/10 (uses around 3-4gb of RAM without any opened APPS, need more RAM optimization)
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Uninstall default launcher with adb commands, than you can use any launcher you want (download your preferred launcher before).
What do you mean it doesn't run games at 90hz? That doesn't make any sense. If the display can do 90hz then things should run at 90hz on default
Ganz Montejo said:
So i have used this phone now for 3 days now. There's a lot of bloatware included in my device (China ROM) but i was able to uninstall most of them, System Apps not included. Then i tried to use a launcher with no success. The phone doesn't allow you to change default launcher. The selection pane is there but "Nova Launcher" is no where to be found.
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You can normally switch launcher. I'm using Microsoft Launcher without any problem. You can set it in default app. Maybe it's cause you have Chinese rom, in global there's no problem with switching default launcher.
heynando said:
What do you mean it doesn't run games at 90hz? That doesn't make any sense. If the display can do 90hz then things should run at 90hz on default
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When Im playing an unlocked game I always check the fps counter in the game space tab and nothing go past 60fps
Ganz Montejo said:
When Im playing an unlocked game I always check the fps counter in the game space tab and nothing go past 60fps
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It depends on the game if it supports 90 Hz or not
for example Pupg dosent support 90 Hz, only 60 Hz, that why you could see just 60 Hz
batestota said:
It depends on the game if it supports 90 Hz or not
for example Pupg dosent support 90 Hz, only 60 Hz, that why you could see just 60 Hz
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i told you. i tried fps unlocked games. csr2, alto, pokemon go, they dont reach 90fps.
Ganz Montejo said:
So i have used this phone now for 3 days now. There's a lot of bloatware included in my device (China ROM) but i was able to uninstall most of them, System Apps not included. Then i tried to use a launcher with no success. The phone doesn't allow you to change default launcher. The selection pane is there but "Nova Launcher" is no where to be found. The 50W fast charge is the real deal and the 90hz display is fluid especially when compared side by side with a 60hz display phone. Brightness is awesome under direct daylight and the lowest brightness is also good on night time or before going to bed. The storage is very fast and i was able to install large sized games (2-4gb) with relative ease (around 5-10 seconds). Then there's the keyboard which sucks, cause it's tailored for Chinese people so i install "Switfkey". Overall the phone is a beast, i installed google play and everything went well after that. Battery is okay, 4000mAh, enough to last the phone throughout the day, with 90hz display enabled.
I have bought this phone for gaming. 90hz and 855+ is really what i'm after, which point's to the biggest disappointment for me. This phone doesn't run games on 90hz. i have tried several fps unlocked games and all of them hover around 50-60fps. Biggest turn-off for me.
Here's my rating so far:
Battery: 8/10
Charge time: 9/10
Ergonomics: 8/10
Size: 7/10 (it's pretty thick especially with a case)
Camera: no rate yet, more testing needed
Display: 6/10 (Big Disappointment, hope they give it an updated fix soon)
Performance: 8/10 (uses around 3-4gb of RAM without any opened APPS, need more RAM optimization)
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Install your preferred launcher from play store first
adb shell
pm uninstall -k --user 0 com.oppo.launcher
Hola, me podrÃan decir si el GPS es de doble frecuencia?, Gracias
Regarding 90 Hz it is not the phone fault /
There are very few apps supporting 90 120 Hz playing right now.
You have a comprehensive list on androidpolice.com
https://www.androidpolice.com/2019/09/15/android-games-phones-high-frame-rates-90-120fps/
Try some of them , and afterwards share your opinions.
No Play Store?
Ganz Montejo said:
So i have used this phone now for 3 days now. There's a lot of bloatware included in my device (China ROM) but i was able to uninstall most of them, System Apps not included. Then i tried to use a launcher with no success. The phone doesn't allow you to change default launcher. The selection pane is there but "Nova Launcher" is no where to be found. The 50W fast charge is the real deal and the 90hz display is fluid especially when compared side by side with a 60hz display phone. Brightness is awesome under direct daylight and the lowest brightness is also good on night time or before going to bed. The storage is very fast and i was able to install large sized games (2-4gb) with relative ease (around 5-10 seconds). Then there's the keyboard which sucks, cause it's tailored for Chinese people so i install "Switfkey". Overall the phone is a beast, i installed google play and everything went well after that. Battery is okay, 4000mAh, enough to last the phone throughout the day, with 90hz display enabled.
I have bought this phone for gaming. 90hz and 855+ is really what i'm after, which point's to the biggest disappointment for me. This phone doesn't run games on 90hz. i have tried several fps unlocked games and all of them hover around 50-60fps. Biggest turn-off for me.
Here's my rating so far:
Battery: 8/10
Charge time: 9/10
Ergonomics: 8/10
Size: 7/10 (it's pretty thick especially with a case)
Camera: no rate yet, more testing needed
Display: 6/10 (Big Disappointment, hope they give it an updated fix soon)
Performance: 8/10 (uses around 3-4gb of RAM without any opened APPS, need more RAM optimization)
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Mine just arrived, China ROM. Play Store nowhere to be found. I tried to manually install and it says "a newer version is already installed." Am I missing something?
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There's a sample, game is alto's odyssey
Ganz Montejo said:
There's a sample, game is alto's odyssey
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Unrelated to the FPS, but does realme X2 Pro have Private DNS in the network settings? thanks.
Same problem here, games run at 60fps max, why?
rssfeed said:
Unrelated to the FPS, but does realme X2 Pro have Private DNS in the network settings? thanks.
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Yes, it has this setting (EU version from official website).
I managed to run alto at 90 fps changing random settings (i cannot reproduce), but the next time I opened it, again capped at 60 fps.
Ganz Montejo said:
When Im playing an unlocked game I always check the fps counter in the game space tab and nothing go past 60fps
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HZ is one thing, FPS is another completely different. I thing you are a bit confuse.
https://www.avadirect.com/blog/frame-rate-fps-vs-hz-refresh-rate/
Ganz Montejo said:
So i have used this phone now for 3 days now. There's a lot of bloatware included in my device (China ROM) but i was able to uninstall most of them, System Apps not included. Then i tried to use a launcher with no success. The phone doesn't allow you to change default launcher. The selection pane is there but "Nova Launcher" is no where to be found. The 50W fast charge is the real deal and the 90hz display is fluid especially when compared side by side with a 60hz display phone. Brightness is awesome under direct daylight and the lowest brightness is also good on night time or before going to bed. The storage is very fast and i was able to install large sized games (2-4gb) with relative ease (around 5-10 seconds). Then there's the keyboard which sucks, cause it's tailored for Chinese people so i install "Switfkey". Overall the phone is a beast, i installed google play and everything went well after that. Battery is okay, 4000mAh, enough to last the phone throughout the day, with 90hz display enabled.
I have bought this phone for gaming. 90hz and 855+ is really what i'm after, which point's to the biggest disappointment for me. This phone doesn't run games on 90hz. i have tried several fps unlocked games and all of them hover around 50-60fps. Biggest turn-off for me.
Here's my rating so far:
Battery: 8/10
Charge time: 9/10
Ergonomics: 8/10
Size: 7/10 (it's pretty thick especially with a case)
Camera: no rate yet, more testing needed
Display: 6/10 (Big Disappointment, hope they give it an updated fix soon)
Performance: 8/10 (uses around 3-4gb of RAM without any opened APPS, need more RAM optimization)
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Yeah a bit disappointed with the display and it feels heavy with a case.
I'm using an indonesian x2 pro, nova launcher can be set up just fine for me.
rssfeed said:
Unrelated to the FPS, but does realme X2 Pro have Private DNS in the network settings? thanks.
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Mine has a private DNS section.
radiXe said:
I'm using an indonesian x2 pro, nova launcher can be set up just fine for me.
Mine has a private DNS section.
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Pre-ordered from Blibli?
Yeah I just got mine too today. Thank God there's a Private DNS.