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Hello guys... I'm galaxy S3 user. I just want to know that Galaxy s3 & htc one x has same 1 GB ram but for galaxy s3 its showing 778 mb ram in hardware information but htc showing proper 1 gb ram. why this is? Infact, i noticed all htc have same ram as in hardware information bar. Mean s3 have less ram acording to htc one x?
Some RAM is reserved for camera, hardware decoder, etc. I doubt HTC used separate memory chip for each of these, so ONE X software must be reporting false values.
BTW, there are 833 mbytes of RAM available on latest JB leaks, and enthusiasts are looking for a way to increase this number further.
How dare you mention that name here
Be gone foul beast, back to the lair I say, back!
Just enjoy your phone.
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Reserved for other functions
Stacks with my previous memory changes: total memory: 857mB for now.
Perseus kernel dev succeeded to increase more rams at jb ;D
system used
Thanx all for giving information. But some says that ram reserved for system & some says reserved for camera & hardware.. hhhmmm then what about htc ram? Is it shows proper 1GB ram included reserved system ram or excluded system ram as sgs3 has.??? By mean as shows 778 mb out of 1GB then where is 222 mb ram which is left. Is 222 mb ram reserved for system use?
One X has more free Ram but everyone who tried both says S3 uses it's Ram better, and the US proves bigger isn't always better.
mrjoy said:
Hello guys... I'm galaxy S3 user. I just want to know that Galaxy s3 & htc one x has same 1 GB ram but for galaxy s3 its showing 778 mb ram in hardware information but htc showing proper 1 gb ram. why this is? Infact, i noticed all htc have same ram as in hardware information bar. Mean s3 have less ram acording to htc one x?
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You are wrong. This has nothing to do with the phones themselves but chip manufacturers. Look at the HTC One X LTE versions, they only have 600mb of RAM.
Yes the International version has close to 1GB of RAM free. This is mostly due to Tegra 3 having dedicated video ram to their GPU where the Exynos and S4 do not.
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You are wrong. This has nothing to do with the phones themselves but chip manufacturers. Look at the HTC One X LTE versions, they only have 600mb of RAM.
Yes the International version has close to 1GB of RAM free. This is mostly due to Tegra 3 having dedicated video ram to their GPU where the Exynos and S4 do not.
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aahh.. means s3 does not have video ram???
Yes, we can squeeze out as much ram as possible but I believe a good portion of it will always be reserved for hardware.
I did a lot of studies with my US One X and the International One X.
Anyways, to answer your question it is the Tegra 3 chip set that has 1GB of RAM, it's like that on the Asus transformer also.
Compare the US One S and One X, you see the same Ram usage pretty much and same SoC. But the international with Tegra 3 and everything else that uses a Tegra 3 from what I have seen (there might be some with 4glte radios that require ram also) has 1GB of RAM.
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it mean tegra 3 chip is more faster phone than galaxy s3.??? bcoz tegra 3 chip has 1 GB of RAM.
mrjoy said:
it mean tegra 3 chip is more faster phone than galaxy s3.??? bcoz tegra 3 chip has 1 GB of RAM.
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No.
The S3 has 1gb of ram too.
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No, not at all. RAM, CPU and (if the gui is properly programmed) GPU can all affect how your phone functions and feels. The S3 uses a more better engineered chip set than the Tegra in the CPU and GPU department.
Most importantly is software though. As the way things are, if Android doesn't figure out a way to optimize their OS to universally work for any kind of hardware it might lose out to WP8.
Not in the hacking department though since WP8 will be closed source.
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thnx for giving kind information.... I respect your answere..
Tegras don't have dedicated GPU RAM, they don't differ to the Exynos in the way they handle that. The reason is purely software based, and some SoCs having reserved memory spaces for internal functions. I have now 856mB useable on my kernel for example.
The leaked jb firmwares gives you 833mb ram.
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AndreiLux said:
Tegras don't have dedicated GPU RAM, they don't differ to the Exynos in the way they handle that. The reason is purely software based, and some SoCs having reserved memory spaces for internal functions. I have now 856mB useable on my kernel for example.
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See that would make sense if every Tegra device from different companies like Asus, htc and Motorola, etc would have different ram uses since they all build their roms with custom ui, etc. Every company has their own custom kernels as well. But that is not the case, or is it a giant coincidence most if not all the Tegra devices show .950 gb free of memory? Including the Nexus 7.
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See that would make sense if every Tegra device from different companies like Asus, htc and Motorola, etc would have different ram uses since they all build their roms with custom ui, etc. Every company has their own custom kernels as well. But that is not the case, or is it a giant coincidence most if not all the Tegra devices show .950 gb free of memory? Including the Nexus 7.
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Sorry but no you don't know what you are talking about, Nvidia does the basic platform kernel for their SoC, the manufacturers don't do anything more than adapt it. ROM also doesn't have anything to do with it
Hi I currently have an S3 i9300 and my company requires me to install MobileIron app and encrypt the whole phone; I find this slows down my phone considerably and often times I need to wait almost a minute for my app drawer to display my apps or some 20 seconds for camera to start.
Don't know if my experience with the S3 i9300 is only because of encryption app or also my processor-ram specs combination is not powerful enough to get a smooth experience.
So I'm looking to upgrade to an S4 but I don't know which version should I get based on which should be the faster one?
Should I get the 1.9GHz Qualcomm Snapdragon 600 quad-core processor or a 1.6GHz Exynos Octa-core processor?
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etereo said:
Hi I currently have an S3 i9300 and my company requires me to install MobileIron app and encrypt the whole phone; I find this slows down my phone considerably and often times I need to wait almost a minute for my app drawer to display my apps or some 20 seconds for camera to start.
Don't know if my experience with the S3 i9300 is only because of encryption app or also my processor-ram specs combination is not powerful enough to get a smooth experience.
So I'm looking to upgrade to an S4 but I don't know which version should I get based on which should be the faster one?
Should I get the 1.9GHz Qualcomm Snapdragon 600 quad-core processor or a 1.6GHz Exynos Octa-core processor?
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Octa core variant is marginally faster but does not support 4g
Snapdragon Is little slow compare to Octa core but support 4g
u can choose as per ur need
Both are good device
the i9500 is faster even though it is really a quad core phone and only 4 cores can be activated at the same time. but I've seen somewhere that Samsung said with android 5 update the phone will be a real octa core and all eight cores can be used simultaneously.
The change to a i9500/9505 for you will be very good because the s3 I9300 only has 1gig of ram compared to the i9500/i9505 that have new processors and 2gigs of ram. That extra ram will definitely make a difference.
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Octa core :good:
Hamoonfarsa said:
the i9500 is faster even though it is really a quad core phone and only 4 cores can be activated at the same time. but I've seen somewhere that Samsung said with android 5 update the phone will be a real octa core and all eight cores can be used simultaneously.
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What are you saying, Android 5 doesn't even exist. Also the Exynos 5410 won't allow all 8 cores only the exynos 5420 can which is only in the Note 3
So based on what you said, I could even consider the Note3 which has 3gigs of ram and expect even better smoother performance? Saying I wouldn't mind the extra real state needs if I could realistically expect a noticeable improvement over currently described S3 conditions...
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4core is faster. clocked at 1.9
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So based on what you said, I could even consider the Note3 which has 3gigs of ram and expect even better smoother performance? Saying I wouldn't mind the extra real state needs if I could realistically expect a noticeable improvement over currently described S3 conditions...
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If u can go for the note 3 and u don't mind it's size ... go for the note 3 and never look back ... but i suggest u wait if you can ofc for about a month to see how the s800 against the 5420 exynos compares ... it not so much about the ram except if you are a really heavy multitasker but the cpu and gpu which we know for sure that in the snapdragon case it's a considerable improvement especially in the gpu department and we ve yet to see how the new exynos chipset will compare to it's older sibling ...
crzykiller said:
What are you saying, Android 5 doesn't even exist. Also the Exynos 5410 won't allow all 8 cores only the exynos 5420 can which is only in the Note 3
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This is what I'm talking about. And for now note 3 is not octa core either.
What is going on?
Unless there is reserved RAM for the system, It seems to be using a lot of it on it's own (no apps running)
It is Normal if you have the Snapdragon variant
androidlover287 said:
What is going on?
Unless there is reserved RAM for the system, It seems to be using a lot of it on it's own (no apps running)
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You probably have the Snapdragon variant SM-N9005 and yes, there is almost a half gigabyte reserved for system (GPU I think) in all Snapdragon Notes!
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You probably have the Snapdragon variant SM-N9005 and yes, there is almost a half gigabyte reserved for system (GPU I think) in all Snapdragon Notes!
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I do in-deed The only variant sold in the UK (had the device 2 days now) is the SM-9005 (LTE/4G). Thank you for clearing that up for me
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I do in-deed The only variant sold in the UK (had the device 2 days now) is the SM-9005 (LTE/4G). Thank you for clearing that up for me
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I am glad, enjoy your beast
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You probably have the Snapdragon variant SM-N9005 and yes, there is almost a half gigabyte reserved for system (GPU I think) in all Snapdragon Notes!
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any thoughts on why so much more then the lg g2, which also has the 800?
SAVVAS. said:
You probably have the Snapdragon variant SM-N9005 and yes, there is almost a half gigabyte reserved for system (GPU I think) in all Snapdragon Notes!
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nice to know
what about the N9000 ?
it's full 3GB RAM?
mmmooo said:
any thoughts on why so much more then the lg g2, which also has the 800?
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To be honest I have no clue, I do know that every snapdragon variant of Note 3 preserves a half gigabyte for the system (GPU) so logically Samsung chosed this set up and it is not by random. Maybe because Note 3 has 3GB of ram compared to LG which has 2GB and therefore the Snapdragon has more allowance/capacity to absorb more ram as 3 GB ram is plenty! Probably the bigger ram it preserves over the LG can be considered as an advantage and not disadvantage especially in the case of Note's 3 huge amount of ram.
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To be honest I have no clue, I do know that every snapdragon variant of Note 3 preserves a half gigabyte for the system (GPU) so logically Samsung chosed this set up and it is not by random. Maybe because Note 3 has 3GB of ram compared to LG which has 2GB and therefore the Snapdragon has more allowance/capacity to absorb more ram as 3 GB ram is plenty! Probably the bigger ram it preserves over the LB can be considered as an advantage and not disadvantage especially in the case of Note's 3 huge amount of ram.
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Yah sounds like all we know for now is the sd variant shows less memory. Just hoping it doesn't actually have less memory (physically).
benhouli said:
nice to know
what about the N9000 ?
it's full 3GB RAM?
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As far as I am concerned the Exynos version has 2.70 GB compared to Snapdaragon which has 2.40GB so it has a little bit more!
It's logical (if it is indeed the case) to reserve a good amount of memory for the GPU to access. It is a 1080p device, after all. Graphically-intense processes at higher resolutions typically require more memory than their lower resolution counterparts. The Adreno 330 is a more powerful GPU than the Mali-T628 MP, too.
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As far as I am concerned the Exynos version has 2.70 GB compared to Snapdaragon which has 2.40GB so it has a little bit more!
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thanks for the info
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Yah sounds like all we know for now is the sd variant shows less memory. Just hoping it doesn't actually have less memory (physically).
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From what I have seen so far, reviews-videos-comments,it seems that ram is not an issue on Snapdragon variants! Time will tell, that's for sure
staryoshi said:
It's logical (if it is indeed the case) to reserve a good amount of memory for the GPU to access. It is a 1080p device, after all. Graphically-intense processes at higher resolutions typically require more memory than their lower resolution counterparts. The Adreno 330 is a more powerful GPU than the Mali-T628 MP, too.
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G2 has sd800 + adreno 330, 1080p, but doesn't reserve anywhere near that much (granted has less to start). And yet doesn't seem to suffer from any performance issues. Something just isn't adding up for me, and don't have one yet to see for myself..
They made it that way for a reason. All that S stuff and Pen doesn't function on memory. It runs on ram. What you don't see is the "dedicated" amount of ram taken. Just like video cards.
The G2 has the same amount of ram being taken, it just doesn't show it. Same design for the GPro.
Your phone's are fine, and don't worry about all the free ram you don't see. Some of the ram that is shown as being used is reserved so apps aren't pulled from memory. It's pulled from RAM instead. It's more battery friendly.
It costs more battery power to have 'free' RAM sit there and then having apps occupy it, compared to the ram already being cached.
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No offense, but that's just nonsense. More physical ram takes more battery, that's true. But that's purely physical ram, regardless of what is, or isn't stored on it, as data stored in ram is no different if its marked free, or used.
And the lg 'not showing it', is more nonsense.
I'm not saying there's anything wrong with the phone, just that something doesn't add up, and would like to find out what that is legitimately, not based on nonsense/fud.
best for gaming?
Can you plz tell me that which version of galaxy note 3 is best for gaming... N9000 or N9005?
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You probably have the Snapdragon variant SM-N9005 and yes, there is almost a half gigabyte reserved for system (GPU I think) in all Snapdragon Notes!
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Can you plz tell me that which one would be better for games like Modern Combat 4... N9000 or n9005?
(if octa core uses all cores simultaniously)
Ali_Ejea said:
Can you plz tell me that which version of galaxy note 3 is best for gaming... N9000 or N9005?
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Can you plz tell me that which one would be better for games like Modern Combat 4... N9000 or n9005?
(if octa core uses all cores simultaniously)
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I am quite confident that N9005 is better for games!
staryoshi said:
It's logical (if it is indeed the case) to reserve a good amount of memory for the GPU to access. It is a 1080p device, after all. Graphically-intense processes at higher resolutions typically require more memory than their lower resolution counterparts. The Adreno 330 is a more powerful GPU than the Mali-T628 MP, too.
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That doesn't explain why Exynos version has 2.70gb RAM vs 2.40gb RAM in the Snapdragon.
I may not be the best judge, having came from a phone with 1GB of RAM, but the Galaxy Note 3 has been a beast when it comes to multitasking for me. I'm pleasantly surprised when I switch to an app I haven't used for a while and it's STILL in active memory (i.e. doesn't have to reload). My old Galaxy Nexus used to drive me nuts with that, pretty much could only have 2, maybe 3 apps open at once.
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I am quite confident that N9005 is better for games!
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Can you tell me the reason bro? I am going to place my order tommorow so i just want to ensure that which one of those two is better for gaming and why? Plz reply me as soon as possible... Thanks
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And one more thing, is there any octa core variant of Note 3 with 4g LTE support?
Just got my note 3 - SM-N900. And I've turned panicky.
Reasons:-
1) please refer to the attached picture - it shows octacore processor in the list. But there are only 4 cores shown below!!! What is this supposed to mean? Does my phone have 8 cores or just 4 cores?
2) my phone has extreme overheating issues. Is hardly 5 hours out of the box. I'm sure it's abnormal. Is there a fix?
Please help! Many thanks!
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Try another application
this is Antutu - the best application for benchmarking and phone info. But is this normal? I don't know if it is! The N-900 is the Indian version of the phone. How come it's not showing 8 cores!? Or have I been cheated? I mean... has the seller done something to my phone's CPU before selling it? Phew!! I'm tired-,-
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Hi
Yes This is normal
Don't worry about it
That's perfectly normal. It's because the Exynos Octa consists of two Quad-Cores.
A Quad-Core 1.9 GHz Cortex-A15, and a Quad-Core 1.3 GHz Cortex-A7
This throws off all phone info apps, because they can only detect one CPU at a time.
n900 have 8 cores but only 4 of them are active any given time. For more info refer to this. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ARM_big.LITTLE
Hai to all,
N910G [Indian Version - note 4] has snapdragon where as N9000 [Indian version - note 3] has exynos octa core A15 [1.9ghz] & A7 [1.3ghz]
Now, i've some doubts, hope experts as well as owners of devices here will clear...
1. Note 4 exynos has 64 bit processors, will it be good for future while compared to Snapdragons one???
2. Note 3 Indian version has exynos octa, namely its octa but at a time only 4 cores will active so seems be quad core performance i think...
while in exynos note 4, all cores are active at a time. So, in update wil all cores of note 3 will run at a time??
3. About gpu, Adreno is good or Mali in note 4 variants according to graphics as well as temperature ??
4. i've seen exynos are 20nm & snapdragons are 28nm in note 4, is dis differtiate note 4 variants too much???
5. In India, note 3 [exynos] costs 400$ & note 4 [snapdragon] costs 570$... which will u prefer me to buy [based on exynos & snapdragon & some what price ]???
6. This is not related to Note Devices,
Is high sar value device is good or low value sar device???
lenovo k3 note has 1.6sar at head while note 4 has only 0.3 at head, so which is good for use??
Thanks a lot....
In a big confusion , help me experts and owners..... Thanks again.....
1.Indian variant Note 4 is not 64 bit.It's 32 bit
2.No they'll not enable hmp in the update as Note 3 is a old device
3.Mali has better games compatibility whereas adreno has more fps as per benchmarks.I haven't used exynos Note 4.Yes exynos variants are cooler than sd one
4.Didn't get you
5.Note 4 as its a newer device with android updates,better camera,screen.Although smoothness wise Note 3 is ahead
6.No knowledge about that
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Thanks for ur response Rishi....
I know Indian Variant is not 64 bit,
Still samsung didn't publish exynos variants are 64bit capable...
What am asking is is exynos variants are surely 64bit???
If i bought exynos variant from KSA,
may i hav warrenty in India???
Yes samsung chip is 64 bit but they haven't enabled it & you won't get any warranty in India coz chipset is different.You might not be able to get it repaired from samsung even if you want to pay
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