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4.3 update questions...

Hey everyone I have a few questions hopefully that can be answered. I took my phone to bestbuy today because I jacked up my recovery and it disappeared so they fixed that and now my root is gone which is what I wanted to happen because of the 4.3 update. If my phone is still rooted somehow will the update jack up my phone? Or will it just get rid of the root and make it like everyone else's phone? Second question. When I try and look for updates by hitting the update button in settings it won't let me do so. I remember freezing DM manager with titanium and I don't know why it would still be frozen because my phone got flashed back to stock. Does anyone else have this problem? Or is it just me... :/ I have a feeling its just me. Hopefully not and its just a common prob. If anyone can help me out I would appreciate it. Thank you!
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ToastyyX said:
Hey everyone I have a few questions hopefully that can be answered. I took my phone to bestbuy today because I jacked up my recovery and it disappeared so they fixed that and now my root is gone which is what I wanted to happen because of the 4.3 update. If my phone is still rooted somehow will the update jack up my phone? Or will it just get rid of the root and make it like everyone else's phone? Second question. When I try and look for updates by hitting the update button in settings it won't let me do so. I remember freezing DM manager with titanium and I don't know why it would still be frozen because my phone got flashed back to stock. Does anyone else have this problem? Or is it just me... :/ I have a feeling its just me. Hopefully not and its just a common prob. If anyone can help me out I would appreciate it. Thank you!
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you took it to best buy. to restore it to stock. it is stock, not rooted. The update button is for updates from samsung, you just got restored to the latest update. there is no updates available.
Is titanium backup still installed?

TRusselo said:
you took it to best buy. to restore it to stock. it is stock, not rooted. The update button is for updates from samsung, you just got restored to the latest update. there is no updates available.
Is titanium backup still installed?
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I uninstalled it cuz there was no need for it anymore. I don't have root access anymore but It is just odd that the Software Update button worked before and I was able to at least connect to at&t to check for an update and now it won't. I was wondering if there is a possibility that something glitched and at&t DM server is still frozen.
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look in about phone>Device Status, does it say 'modifed' or 'normal'?'

Sorry for the late reply... it says Samsung so I'm assuming normal.
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ToastyyX said:
Hey everyone I have a few questions hopefully that can be answered. I took my phone to bestbuy today because I jacked up my recovery and it disappeared so they fixed that and now my root is gone which is what I wanted to happen because of the 4.3 update. If my phone is still rooted somehow will the update jack up my phone? Or will it just get rid of the root and make it like everyone else's phone? Second question. When I try and look for updates by hitting the update button in settings it won't let me do so. I remember freezing DM manager with titanium and I don't know why it would still be frozen because my phone got flashed back to stock. Does anyone else have this problem? Or is it just me... :/ I have a feeling its just me. Hopefully not and its just a common prob. If anyone can help me out I would appreciate it. Thank you!
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What version were you on before? I'm on the leaked version and wondering if Best Buy could flash the new update.
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Im on 4.2.2
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Never in my life received an OTA

Has anyone else never received an OTA from att? I have had three android phones and not one ever got updated. Att customer support is clueless. Anyone have any advice?
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ian1 said:
Has anyone else never received an OTA from att? I have had three android phones and not one ever got updated. Att customer support is clueless. Anyone have any advice?
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leave AT&T. I hate ATT also

ian1 said:
Has anyone else never received an OTA from att? I have had three android phones and not one ever got updated. Att customer support is clueless. Anyone have any advice?
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what advice are you looking for? on how to get an OTA update? are you on MDL? MF3? Custom ROM? Stock ROM?

IceTwig said:
what advice are you looking for? on how to get an OTA update? are you on MDL? MF3? Custom ROM? Stock ROM?
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Same info as OP but only on this gs4. Rooted MDL twrp and uaing stock tw rom. Only reason i rooted was to bring my appdata from old s3 to s4. Never got notice of mf3 ir mj9.
Also cant for the life of me find the stock 3e recovery on here for the s4 to overwrite twrp

bluemax189 said:
Same info as OP but only on this gs4. Rooted MDL twrp and uaing stock tw rom. Only reason i rooted was to bring my appdata from old s3 to s4. Never got notice of mf3 ir mj9.
Also cant for the life of me find the stock 3e recovery on here for the s4 to overwrite twrp
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The reason I asked the OP is he was vague in what he was looking for... and if you are looking for the same answer to what the OP was looking for.. then I'm not sure I can help since it was vague to begin with.
You did however post some data that I think I can help or point you to.
1st let me start by saying that if you are on MDL, I would HIGHLY suggest you do not take any updates for AT&T (which you cannot anyway since you are on TWRP) If at any point you froze or removed files like LocalFOTA and / or AT&T Software Update you will NOT be getting notifications of MF3 or MJ9 from AT&T, if that TW Stock ROM was a custom ROM, it might have come that way, If not.. i'm not sure why you wouldn't get the notification. I would just be grateful I didn't but that's just me.
LOTS of people here wish they were on MDL (including myself) since MF3 or MJ9 have locked bootloaders. If you just want to update your GS4 then do a little reading here to find a TW ROM that is MF3 4.2.2 Based or MJ9 4.3 Based.

IceTwig said:
The reason I asked the OP is he was vague in what he was looking for... and if you are looking for the same answer to what the OP was looking for.. then I'm not sure I can help since it was vague to begin with.
You did however post some data that I think I can help or point you to.
1st let me start by saying that if you are on MDL, I would HIGHLY suggest you do not take any updates for AT&T (which you cannot anyway since you are on TWRP) If at any point you froze or removed files like LocalFOTA and / or AT&T Software Update you will NOT be getting notifications of MF3 or MJ9 from AT&T, if that TW Stock ROM was a custom ROM, it might have come that way, If not.. i'm not sure why you wouldn't get the notification. I would just e grateful I didn't but that's just me.
LOTS of people here with they were on MDL (including myself) since MF3 or MJ9 have locked bootloaders. If you just want to update your GS4 then do a little reading here to find a ROM that is MF3 4.2.2 Based or MJ9 4.3 Based..
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thanks I appreciate it. unfroze localfota and mf3 came through right away. still haven't done it yet and refroze the program. honestly I don't install custom roms and was looking forward to a couple new features of the 4.3. Namely gear support, the brighter screen and a newer modem that is faster.

I'm rooted with official status on the stock rom
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bluemax189 said:
thanks I appreciate it. unfroze localfota and mf3 came through right away. still haven't done it yet and refroze the program. honestly I don't install custom roms and was looking forward to a couple new features of the 4.3. Namely gear support, the brighter screen and a newer modem that is faster.
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You can accomplish the same without going the AT&T way.
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[SOLVED] Thoughts about going from rooted 4.2.2 to 4.3 OTA?

I have an AT&T LG G2. On my previous phone, after I accepted the OTA for 4.1.x to 4.3 on a Galaxy S3, it was a nightmare. I couldn't get su to run, and I got all kinds of security errors (apparently from KNOX), and not just for superuser. Even though I read several threads about it, I never was sure if it was 4.3 at fault -- which does seem to have some issues per Chaintech -- or if it was Samsung's KNOX, or both. So I certainly want to do my homework before I do that on my new LG.
Which is asking at least these questions:
Should I bother updating from 4.2.2 to 4.3 on the G2?
(I've read the technical differences, which seem to be incremental. I just want opinions here. For example, things like the new Camera UI may be irrelevant considering LG's customizations already in place with 4.2.2.)
If it isworth upgrading, will it retain root with an OTA? If it doesn't, what is the best way to go about restoring it in 4.3?
This firmware is probably the first I've ever seen, and that's a lot since first adopting the original T-Mobile G1, where I didn't want to replace the ROM. It's that slick. For now, I just need root and a custom recovery.
TIA.

Stay away until official release by att or lg
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lingarajug said:
Stay away until official release by att or lg
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Well, I'm not sure how much more official the Over-The-Air update from AT&T could be.

By the way there is no official 4.3 for g2 yet.
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lingarajug said:
By the way there is no official 4.3 for g2 yet.
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Hmm, this seems to be the case, now I'm reading they may skip over 4.3 completely. This update it's offering to install is a bug fix and remains at 4.2.2. It's like 57MB, so I assumed it would be 4.3 as my Galaxy SIII got that a while back (and blew up, hence this whole thread).
I'll probably wait until KitKat comes out, then. I really like the LG ROM, and I just wanted root for backups, ad blocking, etc. I've run CyanogenMod since back when it was called JesusFreke, but then I'd have to reinstall everything and all that jazz. Question is, can I wait until Q1 2014.

On Rooted MF3, should I upgrade to 4.3?

Well I am on the horrible MF3 that requires the safestrap recovery to flash any compatible file. So I am not on a custom ROM I am only rooted.
I recently saw the notification that the new 4.3 update is ready to download .
My question is if I update will it still update and just take the root away? Or will I have to unroot and then upgrade?
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VeryCoolAlan said:
Well I am on the horrible MF3 that requires the safestrap recovery to flash any compatible file. So I am not on a custom ROM I am only rooted.
I recently saw the notification that the new 4.3 update is ready to download .
My question is if I update will it still update and just take the root away? Or will I have to unroot and then upgrade?
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I am still waiting on an answer for this also. I do know that it has been confirmed working to retain root when upgrading to 4.3 using "survival mode" in SuperSU. I purchased SuperSU Pro and enabled "survival mode". Then I defrosted the AT&T software updater (had it frozen previously to avoid the update) and Let the update to 4.3 download. I tried this twice and both times the 4.3 update failed to install at 25%. Maybe because I had previously uninstalled some of the AT&T BS apps. So I think I wasted $2.50 for SuperSU Pro. I have searched the forum and there are many people talking about having upgraded and retained root via this method, but nobody seems to want to clarify the steps of the process.
Some I am guessing maybe if you haven't removed any of the bloatware from your phone, you can use survival mode in SuperSU to retain root and take the 4.3 OTA update as normal. If you try it, let me know your mileage.
If I had any idea about MF3 and the locked bootloader I never would have gotten this phone. I hated iOS 7 and decided to come over to Android thinking modification would be much easier on the platform. With carriers locking bootloaders now, it's actually WORSE than having to wait for a jailbreak for an iOS version.

I accidently ota to mk2 from mf3 and re rooted with the mj6 method on att s4
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jsgates said:
I am still waiting on an answer for this also. I do know that it has been confirmed working to retain root when upgrading to 4.3 using "survival mode" in SuperSU. I purchased SuperSU Pro and enabled "survival mode". Then I defrosted the AT&T software updater (had it frozen previously to avoid the update) and Let the update to 4.3 download. I tried this twice and both times the 4.3 update failed to install at 25%. Maybe because I had previously uninstalled some of the AT&T BS apps. So I think I wasted $2.50 for SuperSU Pro. I have searched the forum and there are many people talking about having upgraded and retained root via this method, but nobody seems to want to clarify the steps of the process.
Some I am guessing maybe if you haven't removed any of the bloatware from your phone, you can use survival mode in SuperSU to retain root and take the 4.3 OTA update as normal. If you try it, let me know your mileage.
If I had any idea about MF3 and the locked bootloader I never would have gotten this phone. I hated iOS 7 and decided to come over to Android thinking modification would be much easier on the platform. With carriers locking bootloaders now, it's actually WORSE than having to wait for a jailbreak for an iOS version.
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Take a chill pill bro. This phone is still better than an iPhone. There is a safe root method now so no need to use survival mode just have to find a way to get to 4.3 which is all over the discussion boards.
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DARN IT!!!!! Just took the MF3 update...

I had Odin'd back to stock amdl as I planned on trading in my S4 at AT&T. forgot it was stock and that there was an update out there for it. My phone just restarted and is now installing the update... Grrrr. Not to happy about that.
Thanks, Just had to rant for a second..

schollianmj said:
I had Odin'd back to stock amdl as I planned on trading in my S4 at AT&T. forgot it was stock and that there was an update out there for it. My phone just restarted and is now installing the update... Grrrr. Not to happy about that.
Thanks, Just had to rant for a second..
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Sorry man thats the worst thing that can happen. I guess kiss your bootloader goodbye

I know what you are going through, been there myself.

I was one of the first people to take the update before it was all over XDA that it kills the exploit. I had custom recovery for a short while, never even got to try out any ROMs ;P

My situation was unlucky, foolish nonetheless.
Had a bad ROM flash last summer using MDB. Reverted back to MDL just to start over. Tried going back to MDB before rooting, etc. because it was more stable. That was the day MF3 rolled out and that was the OTA I took without knowing.
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phobia09 said:
My situation was unlucky, foolish nonetheless.
Had a bad ROM flash last summer using MDB. Reverted back to MDL just to start over. Tried going back to MDB before rooting, etc. because it was more stable. That was the day MF3 rolled out and that was the OTA I took without knowing.
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I know what that's like too. I got my MF3 S4 in Dec, opened it, everything was glorious and working great. Next morning I find out phone download ota mk2. WTF? I now have Titanium Back Pro & freeze the updater from Samsung & At&t. No worries.

John The Rhino said:
I know what that's like too. I got my MF3 S4 in Dec, opened it, everything was glorious and working great. Next morning I find out phone download ota mk2. WTF? I now have Titanium Back Pro & freeze the updater from Samsung & At&t. No worries.
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Is there really any advantage to being on mf3 as opposed to mk2?
Honest question, I'm still on mdl myself.
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ssn713 said:
Is there really any advantage to being on mf3 as opposed to mk2?
Honest question, I'm still on mdl myself.
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Not really. If you are still on mdl, I envy you. You have no reason to upgrade to mf3 or mk2. Only if you want to be pure stock & the latest bloatware available from Samsung & At&t. You can flash whatever roms you wish on mdl. Okay, now where is my Skyrocket? I need to flash some roms damn it.

ssn713 said:
Is there really any advantage to being on mf3 as opposed to mk2?
Honest question, I'm still on mdl myself.
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Both use Safestrap recovery...
on MF3 you can flash other 4.2.2 touchwiz and GPE ROMS since kernel is same (or close enough)
on MK2 you can only flash other 4.3 touchwiz ROMs, but no GPE roms. (There are some "hybrid" touchwiz ROMs, though, that have a AOSP theme. Check out Blackbox and Purified from the i9505 dev threads.)