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[Q] Knox, odin, root and warranty

I've updated my N9005 via OTA to the latest XXUDMJ7.
Can I flash a previous original rom like XXUBMJ3 via ODIN and then apply root de la vega?
Or this flash via ODIN will trip the knox flag to 0x1, even being an original rom from sammobile?
Now that I'm on XXUDMJ7, how can I root my N9005 without losing my warranty?

sxjg23 said:
I've updated my N9005 via OTA to the latest XXUDMJ7.
Can I flash a previous original rom like XXUBMJ3 via ODIN and then apply root de la vega?
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No.
sxjg23 said:
Or this flash via ODIN will trip the knox flag to 0x1, even being an original rom from sammobile?
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No, you cannot downgrade since you have MJ7 bootloader.
sxjg23 said:
Now that I'm on XXUDMJ7, how can I root my N9005 without losing my warranty?
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You can't ATM.

I would like to warn u about the hazards if rooting with the Note 3.
Knox invention by these south koreans is just a pain for all those rooters inc. Me.
Watch the reactivation lock, it can brick ur phone if u downloaded and installed the wrong kernel. It happened 2 me. Ive lost a brand new Note 3 because in download mode with odin i couldnt get in because it was locked !
Note 3's reset their bioses each time. It takes one heck of a good programmer to bypass this awfull but very effective manner of theirs.
Sent from my SM-N9005 using xda app-developers app

Maroc_Specops said:
I would like to warn u about the hazards if rooting with the Note 3.
Knox invention by these south koreans is just a pain for all those rooters inc. Me.
Watch the reactivation lock, it can brick ur phone if u downloaded and installed the wrong kernel. It happened 2 me. Ive lost a brand new Note 3 because in download mode with odin i couldnt get in because it was locked !
Note 3's reset their bioses each time. It takes one heck of a good programmer to bypass this awfull but very effective manner of theirs.
Sent from my SM-N9005 using xda app-developers app
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But keep in mind that there are some excellent programmers on this site so if anyone can do it, it will be someone in this community.

[Q] Rooting on Vodafone UK

Hi,
Wondered if someone could please help, as I wish to root without tripping knox, as it's important I have secured work emails.
Just upgraded from Xperia Z, and got experience of rooting that in various ways, along with rooting other Android phones. However, been a while since I had a Samsung phone, but not had one with knox before.
Phone has come with the following firmware:
PDA: N9005XXUBMI7
Phone: N9005XXUBMI6
CSC: N9005VFGBMI1
I've done loads of reading on the subject, and appears that I can use Root de la Vega universal 0.5 without tripping knox with the above firmware.
Could someone please confirm what I believe that it's possible to root the above firmware without tripping root?
Assuming that it is possible, Vodafone have also issued the following firmware update, which I've downloaded to pc from SamMobile, but not yet installed:
N9005XXUDMJ6_N9005VFGDMJ1_VOD
Is there a way I can then flash this update, say with Odin, without tripping root?
Really appreciate any assistance thanks

You can root mi7 without tripping knox using urdlv, then upgrade to your latest vodafone software using mobile odin pro, keeing your root and your knox 0x0
hit 'thanks' if i helped you
SM-N9005 0x0 X-Note7 ML2
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Hi Killberty,
Really appreciate your response thanks.
Once rooted with URDLV, would I then upgrade with Odin Pro as per the instructions here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2522729
Many thanks again.
Killberty said:
You can root mi7 without tripping knox using urdlv, then upgrade to your latest vodafone software using mobile odin pro, keeing your root and your knox 0x0
hit 'thanks' if i helped you
SM-N9005 0x0 X-Note7 ML2
XDA Developers 4 premium app
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Hi,
Does anyone else know the answer to the above please?
Many thanks

LEGGYMAMBO said:
Hi Killberty,
Really appreciate your response thanks.
Once rooted with URDLV, would I then upgrade with Odin Pro as per the instructions here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2522729
Many thanks again.
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Yep, this is what I've done. I had a locked vodafone uk N9005 with MI7 initially. I urdlv to root. Then mop only to MJ7.
Note if you want to flash kitkat U'll need to use MOP 4.00 to flash rom and pc odin to flash bootloader only.
I'm still knox 0x0 & have root.
Sent from my SM-N9005 using Tapatalk

LEGGYMAMBO said:
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I've done loads of reading on the subject, and appears that I can use Root de la Vega universal 0.5 without tripping knox with the above firmware.
Could someone please confirm what I believe that it's possible to root the above firmware without tripping root?
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If you mean "without tripping Knox" - the answer is yes, it should work with URDLV.
LEGGYMAMBO said:
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Assuming that it is possible, Vodafone have also issued the following firmware update, which I've downloaded to pc from SamMobile, but not yet installed:
N9005XXUDMJ6_N9005VFGDMJ1_VOD
Is there a way I can then flash this update, say with Odin, without tripping root?
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Again - "without tripping Knox" - yes, but not with Odin but instead much easier with a program called Mobile Odin Pro - see the detailed thread on that here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2522729
(in theory I do not like paid hacking programs but that one is an exception since it is from Chainfire and buying it is a way to encourage him to keep doing great hacks for the community).

Many thanks for your reply dsm52!!
I'm now rooted using URDLV, ready for the next process.
Is the following file classed as MJ6 or MJ1, as it appears Vodafone UK haven't released MJ7?!
N9005XXUDMJ6_N9005VFGDMJ1_VOD
The reason I ask, is because the following thread states "UNSUCCESSFUL ROOT :MJ6 and later":
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2522729
In addition, do you mind me asking which version of KK you've used, as Vodafone UK haven't released this yet?
I need to retain knox 0x0
Many thanks again
dsm52 said:
Yep, this is what I've done. I had a locked vodafone uk N9005 with MI7 initially. I urdlv to root. Then mop only to MJ7.
Note if you want to flash kitkat U'll need to use MOP 4.00 to flash rom and pc odin to flash bootloader only.
I'm still knox 0x0 & have root.
Sent from my SM-N9005 using Tapatalk
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Hi xclub_101,
Many thanks for your reply. Aye, I did mean "without tripping knox", doh!!
Bought MOP as a big fan of the work and help produced by Chainfire.
Cheers
xclub_101 said:
If you mean "without tripping Knox" - the answer is yes, it should work with URDLV.
Again - "without tripping Knox" - yes, but not with Odin but instead much easier with a program called Mobile Odin Pro - see the detailed thread on that here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2522729
(in theory I do not like paid hacking programs but that one is an exception since it is from Chainfire and buying it is a way to encourage him to keep doing great hacks for the community).
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LEGGYMAMBO said:
Many thanks for your reply dsm52!!
I'm now rooted using URDLV, ready for the next process.
Is the following file classed as MJ6 or MJ1, as it appears Vodafone UK haven't released MJ7?!
N9005XXUDMJ6_N9005VFGDMJ1_VOD
The reason I ask, is because the following thread states "UNSUCCESSFUL ROOT :MJ6 and later":
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2522729
In addition, do you mind me asking which version of KK you've used, as Vodafone UK haven't released this yet?
I need to retain knox 0x0
Many thanks again
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It sounds like you want to stay with official Vodafone rom versions.
I didn't see any need to, so I flashed MJ7 BTU (UK) using MOP as the next step, which worked perfectly.
I flashed mk2 btu wheb that came out in the same way.
Fir kitkat, like most others, i flashed the Polish XEO NA6 official rom. Like I said kitkat flash is a little more tricky due to the extra bootloader flashing step. Personally, kitkat release isn't quite ready for prime time so samsung haven't rolled it out in more regions. There a few little quirks about it, e.g. genuine s view cover not working for all. I'd suggest waiting for the official BTU release before flashing by which time they may have ironed out the little bugs.
Good luck!
Sent from my SM-N9005 using Tapatalk

I'm getting Vodafone note 3 do they come sim locked? Does chain fires sim lock app work on Vodafone phones thanks.
I prefer to use my EE sim.
Thanks for reading.

riz157 said:
I'm getting Vodafone note 3 do they come sim locked? Does chain fires sim lock app work on Vodafone phones thanks.
I prefer to use my EE sim.
Thanks for reading.
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They do come sim locked. However, getting an unlock code isn't difficult. Worth calling customer services in your 1st 7 days & saying u need to use the phone abroad. Worked for me.
Sent from my SM-N9005 using Tapatalk

dsm52 said:
They do come sim locked. However, getting an unlock code isn't difficult. Worth calling customer services in your 1st 7 days & saying u need to use the phone abroad. Worked for me.
Sent from my SM-N9005 using Tapatalk
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Yes I could try that but I was looking for a quicker and cheaper way.

riz157 said:
Yes I could try that but I was looking for a quicker and cheaper way.
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Actually I was unlocked within a few mins of making the call - unlock code got texted to me. And it was free - most likely because I was within my first 7 days of a new contract.
If it's not a new contract phone, then some others have reported chainfire's region lock away to work:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2470551
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Should I update to 4.4.2

I have n9005 rooted so I think I wont get OTA update. Should I update to 4.4.2 and download firmware from sammobile is that reliable?
I dont know my phone is locked version or not.
On my galaxy s4 when I updated by odin I felt the phone became little slow.
I dont know should I do it on my note 3 or not
What do you guys on xda suggest?
Sent from Galaxy Note 3 SM-9005

Er suggest to use search function on this forum.

thahim said:
I have n9005 rooted so I think I wont get OTA update. Should I update to 4.4.2 and download firmware from sammobile is that reliable?
I dont know my phone is locked version or not.
On my galaxy s4 when I updated by odin I felt the phone became little slow.
I dont know should I do it on my note 3 or not
What do you guys on xda suggest?
Sent from Galaxy Note 3 SM-9005
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I updated my phone to kit kat the same day that i got it, i havent noticed any slow downs at all, the only thing that i regret is that i update without thinking about a downgrade, so i whould sugest you to update using a firmware without a locked booloader.

sFranKv said:
I updated my phone to kit kat the same day that i got it, i havent noticed any slow downs at all, the only thing that i regret is that i update without thinking about a downgrade, so i whould sugest you to update using a firmware without a locked booloader.
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Unless you have a specific model of Note 3 (N900W) the KK bootloader won't allow you to go back to JB.
If you have an N9005 I wouldn't recommend flashing N900W firmware as bricking can be upsetting...

thahim said:
I have n9005 rooted so I think I wont get OTA update. Should I update to 4.4.2 and download firmware from sammobile is that reliable?
I dont know my phone is locked version or not.
On my galaxy s4 when I updated by odin I felt the phone became little slow.
I dont know should I do it on my note 3 or not
What do you guys on xda suggest?
Sent from Galaxy Note 3 SM-9005
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Short answer.
Yes.
Sent from my SM-N9005 using Tapatalk

ultramag69 said:
Unless you have a specific model of Note 3 (N900W) the KK bootloader won't allow you to go back to JB.
If you have an N9005 I wouldn't recommend flashing N900W firmware as bricking can be upsetting...
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I have n9005 I dont know whats boot loader the only method I know is odin.
Is there 4.4.2 available for n9005?
Sent from Galaxy Note 3 SM-9005

thahim said:
I have n9005 I dont know whats boot loader the only method I know is odin.
Is there 4.4.2 available for n9005?
Sent from Galaxy Note 3 SM-9005
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Yes, but you can't go back to JB once you upgrade to KK...
Go to Sammobile.com to find out if your region has it. If not you can upgrade to another region's KK, just avoid carrier roms as they require a pit file to flash too...

ultramag69 said:
Yes, but you can't go back to JB once you upgrade to KK...
Go to Sammobile.com to find out if your region has it. If not you can upgrade to another region's KK, just avoid carrier roms as they require a pit file to flash too...
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I'm thinking wont my phone get locked or anything after update and how do I dofferentiate bt carrier roms.
Sent from Galaxy Note 3 SM-9005

thahim said:
I'm thinking wont my phone get locked or anything after update and how do I dofferentiate bt carrier roms.
Sent from Galaxy Note 3 SM-9005
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1. Mine never has.
2. At Sammobile it says - UK (Vodafone) - this is a carrier rom.
If it says UK then its a generic stock rom...
You will have to re-root after update but make sure its the KK cf-autoroot (if you use that).
As you are rooted I'm assuming you have Knox warranty void at 0x1.
If not do a search on how to update to KK using Mobile ODIN, that way you can retain root but still have Knox at 0x0...

ultramag69 said:
1. Mine never has.
2. At Sammobile it says - UK (Vodafone) - this is a carrier rom.
If it says UK then its a generic stock rom...
You will have to re-root after update but make sure its the KK cf-autoroot (if you use that).
As you are rooted I'm assuming you have Knox warranty void at 0x1.
If not do a search on how to update to KK using Mobile ODIN, that way you can retain root but still have Knox at 0x0...
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Yes I have already tripped knox. Is there cf root available for kitkat and can you link to anythread?
Sent from Galaxy Note 3 SM-9005

celderic said:
Short answer.
Yes.
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Shorter answer - no
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thahim said:
Yes I have already tripped knox. Is there cf root available for kitkat and can you link to anythread?
Sent from Galaxy Note 3 SM-9005
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Good God man, you've been a member here since 2006 and you still want spoonfeeding?! Search for the link yourself, it'll take about 30 seconds of your precious time.

How to root N9005 without tripping Knox

Hi guys i just got my Note 3 SM-N9005 yesterday and I need to root without tripping know.I just cant live without rooting anymore(have a lot of important apps that requires root) Ive been trying to search but Im still in doubt. I have 4.4.2 version and baseband/build no. DXUGNH1

Look on Alexandr thread. He explain how to.....

[email protected] said:
Hi guys i just got my Note 3 SM-N9005 yesterday and I need to root without tripping know.I just cant live without rooting anymore(have a lot of important apps that requires root) Ive been trying to search but Im still in doubt. I have 4.4.2 version and baseband/build no. DXUGNH1
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go for towelroot best till mow system status official and knox 0x0 i am using it.
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Thanks guys actually ive read his post,just afraid of rooting w/o the confirmation for my baseband or does it matter?should it work on all 4.4.2 versions?

[email protected] said:
Thanks guys actually ive read his post,just afraid of rooting w/o the confirmation for my baseband or does it matter?should it work on all 4.4.2 versions?
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if you are before may or june date i think i forgot then it will work and yeah to bw on the safe side make a backup for your efs with dr ketans backup app.
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Just an update. I was able to root N9005DXUGNH1 firmware without tripping knox using _alxndr method which means towel root did work. My problem now is my wifi, Sammobile has not released DXUGNH1 firmware yet on their website which means i wont be able to download its kernel to fix my wifi issue(tried DXUFNG2 at the moment) My question is that can I downgrade to DXUFNG2 firmware since I believe both would have the same bootloader I guess or wait till Sammobile uploads DXUGNH1 on their website which I dont know how long will they take to do so. I currently only have 3gb data plan so I would wish to fix this wifi issue more quickly as possible. Would really appreciate your Ideas. Thanks

(Q) Can you just flash a rom via odin and not use safestrap

If this is the wrong area, please move my topic.
Can you just flash over the stock rom with ODIN and not use a recovery mode?
I use to do this with my other phones a few years ago and I never had any real issues.
Thanks for the support!
-Zero Bandwidth

zerobandwidth said:
If this is the wrong area, please move my topic.
Can you just flash over the stock rom with ODIN and not use a recovery mode?
I use to do this with my other phones a few years ago and I never had any real issues.
Thanks for the support!
-Zero Bandwidth
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Afaik yes for official firmwares, Safestrap is only used for custom TW based roms.

gee2012 said:
Afaik yes for official firmwares, Safestrap is only used for custom TW based roms.
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But why SafeStrap? TWRP is much more popular and more users have used it on their past phones. It's the same, right? (I wanna use TWRP when I get my S5, that's why I'm asking).

koragg97 said:
But why SafeStrap? TWRP is much more popular and more users have used it on their past phones. It's the same, right? (I wanna use TWRP when I get my S5, that's why I'm asking).
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Safestrap is for locked bootloaders (att), if your bootloader is not locked then TWRP is fine.
Make sure you get a good understanding of all terms so you don't get your self into problems later.
SM-G900W8 / 0x1

ragz said:
Safestrap is for locked bootloaders (att), if your bootloader is not locked then TWRP is fine.
Make sure you get a good understanding of all terms so you don't get your self into problems later.
SM-G900W8 / 0x1
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Thanks. I'm gonna get the SM-G900F without any kind of contract from a local shop here. So no worries about it being locked, right?
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koragg97 said:
Thanks. I'm gonna get the SM-G900F without any kind of contract from a local shop here. So no worries about it being locked, right?
Sent from my " Black Beauty " using XDA Premium 4 mobile app
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A locked bootloader has nothing to do with a contract, it is not an option to lock or unlock your phone, it depends on where your from, international, and Canadian versions are unlocked, att and Verison (USA) are locked. Do a detailed search to make sure what you are getting so you don't have problems.
SM-G900W8 / 0x1

ragz said:
A locked bootloader has nothing to do with a contract, it is not an option to lock or unlock your phone, it depends on where your from, international, and Canadian versions are unlocked, att and Verison (USA) are locked. Do a detailed search to make sure what you are getting so you don't have problems.
SM-G900W8 / 0x1
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I'm getting the international SM-G900F (Snapdragon 801 Quad Core version). I'm sure!
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