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So lovely developers, a note from the proud users: MAXIMIZE NFC USE.
I haven't found anything, correct me if I'm wrong, that currently uses the NFC capabilities of the S. I expected 2.3 to have something that would allow us to add CC info and use NFC at Pay-pass stations etc. So please developers, (Or even an app request?) find a way to use that NFC and we will love, Truly. That, and you users know it, will become a make/break for a ROM released.
Thank you for all of your hard work, and continuing work:
Flame.
Ps: If you ever need someone with some free time/Copy of Photoshop/ Beta-Testing, and some Common Sense I'm here!
As of right now, the NFC can only READ information. It has been confirmed though, that a later update will add the WRITE function to the NFC.
http://goo.gl/neyS6
It would have been nice for the retail packaging to include something like the places poster that Google gave to the press, just so we could test out the NFC.
That is on stock. Hopefully when source it out later today we can inspect and tweak. My hope was to enable fast data transfer similar to Bump, anyone know any maximum transfer rate speeds for NFC? Obviously wit read/write enabled.
HazzBazz said:
That is on stock. Hopefully when source it out later today we can inspect and tweak. My hope was to enable fast data transfer similar to Bump, anyone know any maximum transfer rate speeds for NFC? Obviously wit read/write enabled.
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Do you mean Tags? I dont believe we can use that with Pay on the go things right?
[Edit]: Realized thanks to Spherical that we cant yet. =D
I just hope nobody makes a app that could read credit card with NFC (blink) information. As of right now when I put my Nexus S on top of my wallet it reads: "Unknown tag type"
Hopefully it stays that way
sstang2006 said:
I just hope nobody makes a app that could read credit card with NFC (blink) information. As of right now when I put my Nexus S on top of my wallet it reads: "Unknown tag type"
Hopefully it stays that way
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so your telling me the whole time yesterday when i was holding my phone to random peoples butts it was pointless
slowz3r said:
so your telling me the whole time yesterday when i was holding my phone to random peoples butts it was pointless
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lol as of right now, Yes
I'll be getting an aluminum wallet when the time comes.
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That is on stock. Hopefully when source it out later today we can inspect and tweak. My hope was to enable fast data transfer similar to Bump, anyone know any maximum transfer rate speeds for NFC? Obviously wit read/write enabled.
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You need to read more and post less. There are no APIs to write via NFC yet.
I like that you say "we" can inspect and tweak it, which its obvious you can't even search the forums, let alone RE or develop code.
I would keep an eye out on the Toshiba Regza phone from NTT DoCoMo in Japan. NFC is huge here. Every store has it and allows you to use it to pay for whatever. The new phone may have some APIs when it is released.
http://www.newlaunches.com/archives/toshiba_regza_phone_is04_launching_next_week.php
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I just hope nobody makes a app that could read credit card with NFC (blink) information. As of right now when I put my Nexus S on top of my wallet it reads: "Unknown tag type"
Hopefully it stays that way
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Whoah! I gotta try that now!. And my passport too!
perdurabo2 said:
You need to read more and post less. There are no APIs to write via NFC yet.
I like that you say "we" can inspect and tweak it, which its obvious you can't even search the forums, let alone RE or develop code.
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Lol, and you obviously need to flame less. But what the hell do I know
nxt said:
Whoah! I gotta try that now!. And my passport too!
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It says the same on the passport: "Unknown tag type"
Thieves are drooling over mainstream nfc use. The best thing I have heard yet from someone pro nfc is "its encrypted" lol!
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how do we use the NFC as a credit card?
normally we have to insert the credit card to the device to scan..
if by nexus S, how is it going to scan since the device only reads on chip from your credit card..
xpooz said:
how do we use the NFC as a credit card?
normally we have to insert the credit card to the device to scan..
if by nexus S, how is it going to scan since the device only reads on chip from your credit card..
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As of right now you can't.
xpooz said:
how do we use the NFC as a credit card?
normally we have to insert the credit card to the device to scan..
if by nexus S, how is it going to scan since the device only reads on chip from your credit card..
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As of right now you can't.
I have Chase, and both my Chase "check card" and MasterCard both have "Blink" which is their NFC enabled cards.
When Google finally enables read/write/send capabilities of the NFC, this is what I would guess would happen:
The Chase Android App, you log in and enable the NFC feature. So then you're at the grocery store, you lauch the Chase Android App, login, then "wave" your phone at the Credit Card terminal to pay.
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i just hope nobody makes a app that could read credit card with nfc (blink) information. As of right now when i put my nexus s on top of my wallet it reads: "unknown tag type"
hopefully it stays that way :d
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so.much.potential.
You are genuinely a top level idiot. You need to love more and flame less. The API will be released... although true not with source.... because Google expressed explicitly they want to work with third parties. Nokia experimented with nfc for data transfer so it is unlikely that Google will ignore this use. And yeah if people flame you're right not we here at xda but we here at the OEM I work for. Idiot.
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What I was expecting is a Pay-Pal type of Acct with NFC transfer abilities.
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You are genuinely a top level idiot. You need to love more and flame less. The API will be released... although true not with source.... because Google expressed explicitly they want to work with third parties. Nokia experimented with nfc for data transfer so it is unlikely that Google will ignore this use. And yeah if people flame you're right not we here at xda but we here at the OEM I work for. Idiot.
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Hazzbazz, sometimes it's better to just ignore the flamers, who are essentially frustrated trolls in my opinion.
Just add the guy to your ignore list and move on.
Here is the link:
http://android-developers.blogspot....id+Developers+Blog)&utm_content=Google+Reader
Looks exciting!!
mmanjj said:
Here is the link:
http://android-developers.blogspot....id+Developers+Blog)&utm_content=Google+Reader
Looks exciting!!
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Very cool! More NFC functionality is awesome, IMO! Thanks for posting man!
Now where's the manual download link
Too bad it doesn't include the Random Reboot fix, as that (IMO) is a much more needed update. *smh*
http://androidandme.com/2011/02/pho...s-new-nfc-features-random-reboot-bug-remains/
how come i didnt get the update???
Same as before; roll-out is staggered so not everyone will auto-download it on day-1. Could try calling *#*#checkin#*#* & see if that kicks it in... didn't for me though. Hence the hope someone posts the file so it can be manually installed
Noone has it yet, be patient
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this update doesn't really give any benefit to the users right?
looking forward to the OTA update
Excited about NFC, but far more disappointed by lack of major bug fixes.
More locales inside? Any one knows something about this?
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2012iawait said:
this update doesn't really give any benefit to the users right?
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Not unless you really love NFC.
thommcg said:
Not unless you really love NFC.
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disagree. This will allow users to share contact info directly from phone to phone. it will also allow you to write to NFC tags which can be very cool. So for example, I have a watch I wear that is a NFC tag with 4k of memory. With the new release I can write change the content of what is on that tag. Right now I keep it as my contact info.
Who said major bugs won't be fixed? Clearly google decided to showcase 2.3.3 because of the NFC thing. Fixed bugs has never been showcased in change logs by google. So there is still hope!!!
I once had the idea of using NFC as input for password, like an electronic key. This will allow greater convenience once device level encryption is supported. I hope this can be realized some day.
SupaDupaFly24 said:
Who said major bugs won't be fixed? Clearly google decided to showcase 2.3.3 because of the NFC thing. Fixed bugs has never been showcased in change logs by google. So there is still hope!!!
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Yeah, the idea of true changelogs is apparently alien to Google's Android team.
zorak950 said:
Yeah, the idea of true changelogs is apparently alien to Google's Android team.
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Hehe they take their cues from Team Douche I'm sure there will be more fixes and alterations than that post implied so I wouldn't be too worried about it not stating specifically what is changing.
Si_NZ said:
I once had the idea of using NFC as input for password, like an electronic key. This will allow greater convenience once device level encryption is supported. I hope this can be realized some day.
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The hardware supports it. NFC with a secure element provides a new level of security. Just needs to be implemented in items. they already have house locks and car door locks that use this type of system. Just need PCs to adopt it too.
thepro8 said:
The hardware supports it. NFC with a secure element provides a new level of security. Just needs to be implemented in items. they already have house locks and car door locks that use this type of system. Just need PCs to adopt it too.
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My understanding is that technology uses RFID not NFC.
Will this install on a stock, rooted ROM on a custom kernel?
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I was wondering if any found any real good use of the NFC or the Google wallet app. I have $10 from signing up, and am thinking about going over to 7-11, but it is weird when on the MasterCard finder, it says there is NFC checkout and you don't want to seem like an idiot trying to check out.
So little use for it I have NFC what to use it for.
No Wallet here in Australia and no other NFC devices for me.
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For my work I made posters advertising our Facebook page we set up, I put NFC tags in the posters with a little tap here logos on. Works well, loads your web browsers and takes you to the Facebook page. All companies need to do the same!
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I have a few nfc chips (compliments of tagsfordroid) I've got a key chain tag that I use when I leave the house, it disables wi-fi, enables gps and bluetooth, increases ring tone volume. All the little things that take a few minutes of my time are now simplified with the tap of a tag! I also use nfc for other various tasks and it's proven to be very helpful
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What does NFC stand for? "No F---'in Cash"?
tcat007 said:
What does NFC stand for? "No F---'in Cash"?
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Near-Field Communication (I think; going off memory)
espionage724 said:
Near-Field Communication (I think; going off memory)
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Ya, you are correct :>
Rageypeep said:
For my work I made posters advertising our Facebook page we set up, I put NFC tags in the posters with a little tap here logos on. Works well, loads your web browsers and takes you to the Facebook page. All companies need to do the same!
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It would be so much simpler and have a far greater reach if you just had a QR code in it.
Using NFC for just a website seems a total waste to me.
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The only thing I saw with it, was that it can'y verify payments immediately unless it's connected. I have tried twice. Once at Best Buy, failed because the systems don't work. Second at 7-11 and it worked but it doesn't say whether it took the money ou, because I didn't have it connected.
for a good list of usage examples of NFC go to the comment section of this post
http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/0...fc-tags-from-tagsfordroid-and-android-police/
Some are standard some are pretty original.
I've used nfc only for transferring photos from phobia to tablet since I don't auto sync them with a cloud storage. Beats having to do a few more clicks thru bluetooth
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thephantom said:
I've used nfc only for transferring photos from phobia to tablet since I don't auto sync them with a cloud storage. Beats having to do a few more clicks thru bluetooth
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what is "phobia"?
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what is "phobia"?
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Crappy auto correct. Wth? It's phone to tablet. No idea how phobia came about. Ok time to proofread first. Hehehe
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thephantom said:
Crappy auto correct. Wth? It's phone to tablet. No idea how phobia came about. Ok time to proofread first. Hehehe
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After going to the play store and searching for "phobia" i realized it must have been autocorrect.
ZeroManArmy said:
...Second at 7-11 and it worked but it doesn't say whether it took the money ou, because I didn't have it connected.
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Had this happen too at McDonalds and 7-11, but then again it would let me purchase regardless. The money would end up being pulled from a credit card later, so no big deal here.
I believe Starbucks accepts NFC and Google wallet? Maybe I'll pop in there and try.
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nooomoto said:
I believe Starbucks accepts NFC and Google wallet? Maybe I'll pop in there and try.
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I thought places just had to accept NFC, or Mastercard's PayPass thing, and not specifically Google Wallet?
I like to take an nfc chip with me where ever i go and find ladies with nfc capable phones and put my contact in their phone all ninja-like and then just be casual and say "aye bay bay, call me sometime" and when shes like "i dont have your number" i tell her to look at her phone and her panties instantly become soaked.
you guys should try it some time.
espionage724 said:
I thought places just had to accept NFC, or Mastercard's PayPass thing, and not specifically Google Wallet?
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No idea...its difficult finding good, current info on the subject.
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vegandroid said:
I like to take an nfc chip with me where ever i go and find ladies with nfc capable phones and put my contact in their phone all ninja-like and then just be casual and say "aye bay bay, call me sometime" and when shes like "i dont have your number" i tell her to look at her phone and her panties instantly become soaked.
you guys should try it some time.
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Gotta try that.
This is my first time having an NFC device, so please bear with me. I rooted my phone the evening I received it. Now I'm trying to set up Google Wallet, and it says that my device is unsupported. In the help topic regarding this message, it mentions something about rooted devices being unsupported due to security reasons, can I still use this feature? Is it discouraged in any way?
If anybody has some insight or experience with this, I'd like to know.
I have the evo lte rooted with same unsupported device message, yes it will still work
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llblwskydrgn said:
This is my first time having an NFC device, so please bear with me. I rooted my phone the evening I received it. Now I'm trying to set up Google Wallet, and it says that my device is unsupported. In the help topic regarding this message, it mentions something about rooted devices being unsupported due to security reasons, can I still use this feature? Is it discouraged in any way?
If anybody has some insight or experience with this, I'd like to know.
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The reason it is discouraged is because anyone (with the now-how) can brute-force access your pin if your phone is rooted. And then skip away making payments on goodies.
What would be the chances of someone getting that close to you, they would have to be pretty much hugging you
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josh030181 said:
What would be the chances of someone getting that close to you, they would have to be pretty much hugging you
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oh hey josh nice phone come here a sec *hugs* now stay like this for about 5 minutes kthx.
Well seems about as secure as having somebody run off with your actual wallet... So off-topic but where are the places where I can actually use Google Wallet >_>
llblwskydrgn said:
Well seems about as secure as having somebody run off with your actual wallet... So off-topic but where are the places where I can actually use Google Wallet >_>
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Any place that has tap-to-pay or pay-pass features (forgot what the actual name is). I've seen it at McDonald's, CVS/Walgreens, Best Buy, and a few other large chains around town.
llblwskydrgn said:
Well seems about as secure as having somebody run off with your actual wallet... So off-topic but where are the places where I can actually use Google Wallet >_>
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Plenty of you fly to Japan and China, they have been using it for years. You can try looking up PayPass mechant, such as this link: http://www.google.com/wallet/how-it-works/in-store.html
So it doesn't have to be specifically for google wallet? They work on the things like the speedpass at speedway or your creditcard where you just tap it to the machine and it gets your infO?
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Plenty of you fly to Japan and China, they have been using it for years. You can try looking up PayPass mechant, such as this link: http://www.google.com/wallet/how-it-works/in-store.html
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Awesome! Looking forward to trying this out in the next few weeks. Hope I remember to try it when I see it...
I tried to use this at Walgreens today. They had the translucent blue PayPass terminal. I sat there for about 30 seconds and nothing happened. I even tried to enter the app and still nothing. NFC was on, and my card is attached in Google Wallet.
I think I set up wallet, then unlocked and rooted, then had to re-set up Wallet. Am I doing something wrong? The clerk was staring at me like I was crazy, just holding my phone next to the terminal....
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Plenty of you fly to Japan and China, they have been using it for years. You can try looking up PayPass mechant, such as this link: http://www.google.com/wallet/how-it-works/in-store.html
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I've been living in China all my life. What are your taking about?
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coalesce said:
I tried to use this at Walgreens today. They had the translucent blue PayPass terminal. I sat there for about 30 seconds and nothing happened. I even tried to enter the app and still nothing. NFC was on, and my card is attached in Google Wallet.
I think I set up wallet, then unlocked and rooted, then had to re-set up Wallet. Am I doing something wrong? The clerk was staring at me like I was crazy, just holding my phone next to the terminal....
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I had that happen at Taco Bueno. And a McDonalds. But at some McDonalds it works. I think that so few people use this system that when its broken no one complains. And its probably never even tested when they set it up.
Typically you can just tap your phone to the thing (no need to be in the app). It'll prompt you for a PIN. Then you can pay.
If it's not working you may have a poor data connection? I think it requires data to work.
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Can't upload photospheres either if you're rooted
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I had that happen at Taco Bueno. And a McDonalds. But at some McDonalds it works. I think that so few people use this system that when its broken no one complains. And its probably never even tested when they set it up.
Typically you can just tap your phone to the thing (no need to be in the app). It'll prompt you for a PIN. Then you can pay.
If it's not working you may have a poor data connection? I think it requires data to work.
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Ohhh that's what I love about my area, HSPA+ EVERYWHERE . I guess I'll try some other stores out...
llblwskydrgn said:
Well seems about as secure as having somebody run off with your actual wallet... So off-topic but where are the places where I can actually use Google Wallet >_>
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I'd still say it's more secure than that. Anyone can swipe a card and charge it as credit. Relatively few people would know how to brute force hack google wallet on a rooted device.
Everyone.
Google wallet does not require a data connection.
If its not working , I read on the wallet website to "hold it about an inch" from the terminal. Without placing it on the terminal. Try to see if that works.
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Yeah mine didn't work at the gas station the other day, though I didn't log out of Google Wallet before I flashed a rom and rooted recently so some say that it'll never work again after that because of the secure element getting locked or something like that. Hopefully that's not true.
I've flashed and reflashed a lot. All you need to do is delete the data, connect to high speed internet like WiFi, then open it up. Worked for me.
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http://www.xda-developers.com/android-pay-no-longer-working-with-systemless-root/
It was good while it lasted...............something tells me though "is android pay working yet" will still come up in every custom ROM thread. LOL
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http://www.xda-developers.com/android-pay-no-longer-working-with-systemless-root/
It was good while it lasted...............something tells me though "is android pay working yet" will still come up in every custom ROM thread. LOL
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It is well known that this was not gonna last. Even roms devs are starting to tell people not to ask about it as the rom is rooted and they will not go out of their way to fix something like that. Most of the time people dont even really use it.
PErfect example is that all mobile payments are blocked where I live due to security reasons.
It would probably be a good idea for someone to check if this only impacts the binary trainwreck, or if it impacts ALL root... i.e., http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/general/root-t3231211
While I won't say that our safe open source approach can't be detected, I can say with authority that the binary is doing a heap of things that GREATLY weaken the security and cause very... dramatic... alteration to the rootfs.
If somebody were to identify how they are determining that the device is untrustworthy, I would be happy to attempt workaround with that information. However note that it isn't particularly high priority since I don't *use* android pay. Reasons I don't use it;
1) it isn't available in my country,
2) it doesn't provide a benefit since it is easier to pull my credit card (which has an nfc chip) out of my wallet than to pull this whale of a phone out of my pocket,
3) I really don't want to add an additional tracker for this information.
4) People who wave their phone around the payment terminal really look like douchebags.
If I'm going to use AP , I just boot into a non rooted ROM via multirom, is not ideal but rather do that than dragging my wallet around when going for gas, groceries, etc phone is always with me anyway, just a quick tap and done
hopefully a workaround is found to make it work with root, but is not looking good so far [emoji53]
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It's not looking good because of Google runs the check. If I read things right, Google actually runs a CTS check on the device. Failing the CTS stops Android Pay from working, and the variant of superuser used isn't likely to make any difference. The device will still fail.
There's one guy in that discussion thread ranting that this is somehow a bait-and-switch on Google's part, when it really is just Google enforcing its Terms and Conditions.
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If I'm going to use AP , I just boot into a non rooted ROM via multirom, is not ideal but rather do that than dragging my wallet around when going for gas, groceries, etc phone is always with me anyway, just a quick tap and done
hopefully a workaround is found to make it work with root, but is not looking good so far [emoji53]
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yea because dragging a wallet around or money clip is soooo difficult...a sign of the times.
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If I'm going to use AP , I just boot into a non rooted ROM via multirom, is not ideal but rather do that than dragging my wallet around when going for gas, groceries, etc phone is always with me anyway, just a quick tap and done
hopefully a workaround is found to make it work with root, but is not looking good so far [emoji53]
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Still have to carry it for your ID card. At least here you can be ticketed and fined for not carrying it. I personally hate carrying my wallet but like I stated all mobile payments are blocked here so doesnt really matter.
zelendel said:
Still have to carry it for your ID card. At least here you can be ticketed and fined for not carrying it. I personally hate carrying my wallet but like I stated all mobile payments are blocked here so doesnt really matter.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-5x/general/passing-safetynet-root-t3307659
Looks like Android Pay has a workaround for the time being. It's like a cat and mouse game.
Well that's why you get a wallet case, I mean seriously? How hard is it to pull your card out and swipe.
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4) People who wave their phone around the payment terminal really look like douchebags.
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One time, I lost my debit card, but I had Google wallet installed on my Nexus 7......
I went and bought a pack of smokes and beer with my tablet.
I looked like a douchebag.
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Well that's why you get a wallet case, I mean seriously? How hard is it to pull your card out and swipe.
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Exactly. I think people will find that mobile based payments are not something that will last very long. It's a nice gimmic but has to many security holes and almost no real benefit.
as far as I know it still works?
Google will close the latest exploit soon enough. Then I'm sure someone will find another hole to get Android Pay working, which Google will then close. Repeat ad infinitum.
Currently this latest exploit is working properly, so enjoy it while you can.
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Exactly. I think people will find that mobile based payments are not something that will last very long. It's a nice gimmic but has to many security holes and almost no real benefit.
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One of my family members tried to use an iPhone for mobile pay. After 10 tries we just swiped the plastic lol. It's a nice novelty but hardly worry the headache over using a credit card
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Exactly. I think people will find that mobile based payments are not something that will last very long. It's a nice gimmic but has to many security holes and almost no real benefit.
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Ever since they moved to the chip card payment, it takes longer than the simple swipe. Android Pay is faster than the chip reader in my opinion.
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Ever since they moved to the chip card payment, it takes longer than the simple swipe. Android Pay is faster than the chip reader in my opinion.
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Cant say much about that as most cards here still dont have the chip and the banks are not in a rush to change over.
I can still get my wallet out and swipe my card fast then the average person can do it with a mobile device I feel. Cant say for sure as all mobile payments are refused and blocked here.
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Cant say much about that as most cards here still dont have the chip and the banks are not in a rush to change over.
I can still get my wallet out and swipe my card fast then the average person can do it with a mobile device I feel. Cant say for sure as all mobile payments are refused and blocked here.
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For me it's situational. There will be a few times I'll be waiting in line and already have my phone out browsing so in that situation android pay will be faster.
From a neutral position, grabbing the card and swiping it is faster but with the new chip cards and systems it's become tedious for me. I'll pull the card and swipe it at which time it will indicate that the card is a chip card and I have to use it in the chip reader. Once inserted it takes a while before it reads it, verifies and then indicates you can remove it.
From a neutral position the chip card process is slower because of the time it takes to read the chip in the card.
Samsung has it right with it being compatible with new and old systems. I haven't read to see how consistent it is but the concept sounds better.
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For me it's situational. There will be a few times I'll be waiting in line and already have my phone out browsing so in that situation android pay will be faster.
From a neutral position, grabbing the card and swiping it is faster but with the new chip cards and systems it's become tedious for me. I'll pull the card and swipe it at which time it will indicate that the card is a chip card and I have to use it in the chip reader. Once inserted it takes a while before it reads it, verifies and then indicates you can remove it.
From a neutral position the chip card process is slower because of the time it takes to read the chip in the card.
Samsung has it right with it being compatible with new and old systems. I haven't read to see how consistent it is but the concept sounds better.
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See you may have a bit of an edge there. Here most places have signs that say to make sure to have your cell phone put away when you come to the counter or they will not serve you.
Samsung pay doesnt work here either, as retailers keep the machine behind the reg so all none cash payments have to go through the cashier.
There is one bank here that has moved to the chip. But they just sent out a letter saying they were sending out chipless cards due to lack of interest or usage.
zelendel said:
See you may have a bit of an edge there. Here most places have signs that say to make sure to have your cell phone put away when you come to the counter or they will not serve you.
Samsung pay doesnt work here either, as retailers keep the machine behind the reg so all none cash payments have to go through the cashier.
There is one bank here that has moved to the chip. But they just sent out a letter saying they were sending out chipless cards due to lack of interest or usage.
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That's very interesting, thought they had to because there was a law passed for merchants, but eh, we'll never catch up to the rest of the world cause quite frankly...we're either lazy, can't wait 5 seconds for a card to read, or don't want to upgrade anything, Ahhh, the American way