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[Q] I hate 4.3 update

So after yelling at my phone threatening to smash it for a while now and cursing out the 4.3 up date. Is there any way to down grade if I root it? Or am I SOL?

You're SOL. Once you upgrade, there is no way to go back, not at the time of this writing anyway.
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Jesse_01 said:
So after yelling at my phone threatening to smash it for a while now and cursing out the 4.3 up date. Is there any way to down grade if I root it? Or am I SOL?
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What do you hate about 4.3 ???

Relayers said:
What do you hate about 4.3 ???
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I hate that almost every app seems to want to crash. Google chrome always flickers and goes black when trying to switch pages.
All the extra software crap they added that I have no use for.
I thought about rooting and doing a custom rom. But I don't want to lose all my text messages. A lot of work and important messages that come in handy.
My battery life has got worse. Phone just seems slower.
I have never subscribed to this though, but it makes me wonder some times. Manufacturers do software updates when new phones are about to came out, so your old one starts to suck lol. 4.3 update for no major reason on the s4. You suffer for 3 months or so, than the s5 comes out to fix your problems.
I know Apple just did it to the iPhone 4 recently. We have 5 of them at work and they have crapped the bed performance wise after the update.

You can restore text messages with Titanium Backup, you could also try doing the mk2 unbrick method to reflash mk2 and see if that makes things better.

Jesse_01 said:
I hate that almost every app seems to want to crash. Google chrome always flickers and goes black when trying to switch pages.
All the extra software crap they added that I have no use for.
I thought about rooting and doing a custom rom. But I don't want to lose all my text messages. A lot of work and important messages that come in handy.
My battery life has got worse. Phone just seems slower.
I have never subscribed to this though, but it makes me wonder some times. Manufacturers do software updates when new phones are about to came out, so your old one starts to suck lol. 4.3 update for no major reason on the s4. You suffer for 3 months or so, than the s5 comes out to fix your problems.
I know Apple just did it to the iPhone 4 recently. We have 5 of them at work and they have crapped the bed performance wise after the update.
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You can't custom rom your phone. Only mdl can use Loki and only mf3/mk2 can use safestrap which means no custom kernel.
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Jesse_01 said:
So after yelling at my phone threatening to smash it for a while now and cursing out the 4.3 up date. Is there any way to down grade if I root it? Or am I SOL?
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Trade your phone for a moto x or sell it and get a nexus. Moto x will still have a locked boot loader but you'll get close to stock android not to mention quick updates like a nexus
AT&T Galaxy S4 SGH-I337 RUNNING HYPERDRIVE 12

Why change - just to change.

I've been observing all the hype about KK and I have a simple question: why change. I'm running Sacs custom rom ver.5.5 ultra. I'm on a MDC Bootloader & NAE software and baseband. It's fast and furious with excellent battery life. Life is good. No WiFi issues, no Google issues, no dropped calls or rom issues. No roaming issues. Nothing! So what's so hot about Kit Kat anyway? Seems you loose more than you gain.
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KC6UFO said:
I've been observing all the hype about KK and I have a simple question: why change. I'm running Sacs custom rom ver.5.5 ultra. I'm on a MDC Bootloader & NAE software and baseband. It's fast and furious with excellent battery life. Life is good. No WiFi issues, no Google issues, no dropped calls or rom issues. No roaming issues. Nothing! So what's so hot about Kit Kat anyway? Seems you loose more than you gain.
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I guess it's more exciting for those who don't root or flash ROMs ?!?
For those that do... And still get excited hey you got me.. Its the " new" thing ( but not really )
If you can have a custom recovery and any ROM you want it's really just silly.
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Thanks. It's like keeping up with the Jones' s. But they're not always right. I like new stuff and support the great developers out there. But after taking a close look at KK it seems a step backwards to me despite all the hype. They took more the we got in return. I'll wait happily for the next big thing.
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[Q] KitKat and Custom Roms

Sorry if this has been covered, I didn't really see much on this. Per my request, my work just ordered me a Note 3 and of course I don't have the ability to leave it alone. I won't have it until next week but I assume it will have Jellybean on it still? Are there any stable roms that are based on KitKat for this phone? Any word on a formal release of KitKat? With the help of a better launcher, I might try and keep this one stock for now, but who knows.
Right now I have an S3 running the Beanstalk 4.4 rom based on 4.4.2 which I absolutely love. The phone is very fast and stable. As I mentioned, this is a work phone (which doubles as a personal phone) so I can't sacrifice stability since I rely on the phone every day. Another reason why the phone might stay stock if I can get the formal KitKat release on it...
Looking at case options as well. Anyone running this case?
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00DCIZJ5S/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A2SFKRF5TPZMT5

Exact case I have except in red. Love it! Nothing known on kit kat yet though.
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ginger man said:
Exact case I have except in red. Love it! Nothing known on kit kat yet though.
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I'm glad the case is good. I'll have it tomorrow. I really hope they release KitKat soon, I hate taking a step backwards.
On another subject, I just pre-ordered my wife an AT&T GS5 today!

[Q] New AT&T Update Ruined G2

I downloaded the G2 update yesterday from AT&T.
I'm not rooted, but this update is even worse than the one before. The battery life is completely ruined.
I noticed that usually my phone had 550MB of RAM left with the previous update. Now it's idling at around 450MB.
Not only that, just browsing on simple sites on Chrome will turn my phone warm to hot. The battery life percentage starts depleting rapidly. Roughly 1% for every 90 seconds or so. It's really frustrating since one of the selling points of the G2 was the battery life-- And every subsequent update has worsened the battery life while updating really little.
What can I do?

Root and flash dorimanx kernel

siggey said:
Root and flash dorimanx kernel
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I was more wondering if I could revert to the stock 4.4.2 before this horrible update.

Bumping.

Hey bud. I don't exactly know how the AT&T version works, but if you follow the "Go back to stock"-guide and use a earlier kdz file, you SHOULD be able to get an earlier version of kitkat, maybe without knock code, but I don't really care about that personally.
I'm guessing that they want you to upgrade to a G3 so that they earn money.

Berlinetta said:
I downloaded the G2 update yesterday from AT&T.
I'm not rooted, but this update is even worse than the one before. The battery life is completely ruined.
I noticed that usually my phone had 550MB of RAM left with the previous update. Now it's idling at around 450MB.
Not only that, just browsing on simple sites on Chrome will turn my phone warm to hot. The battery life percentage starts depleting rapidly. Roughly 1% for every 90 seconds or so. It's really frustrating since one of the selling points of the G2 was the battery life-- And every subsequent update has worsened the battery life while updating really little.
What can I do?
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Op, I'm also seeing this update notification on my phone but I haven't done it yet. What does it say as far as what Android version you're on in settings?

ksc6000 said:
Op, I'm also seeing this update notification on my phone but I haven't done it yet. What does it say as far as what Android version you're on in settings?
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Do NOT update to it. Literally the worst update. The RAM usage has kicked up by 100-200 MB.
It's still 4.4.2. It only updated a few, unnoticeable things.
I really want to revert to the previous KitKat version with Knock Code. I cannot deal with this update. My phone starts becoming warm after browsing for a few minutes using the Twitter or Facebook app. It is that bad.
Please, someone help me out here. I'm so frustrated with this update that I'm half-tempted to just use AT&T Next program to get the LG G3.

No luck. It upgraded me without even warning around 2 p.m. In the middle of the freaking day. That really makes me mad because what if I needed to get a phone call or my wife needed to get ahold of me or something? I don't think that this should be legal for carriers to do this.
In either case I'm also noticing heavier than normal battery drain with this update but I'm going to give it about a week to see if the battery settles back down before I revert back to 4.2.2.
If you're sure that you want to get rid of this update I think what you should be able to do is to revert to stock 4.2.2 and then let yourself upgrade until you get to the version right before this and freeze the software update app. Have you reverted to stock before? I did it once when I had to return the phone to AT&T because of a battery defect and it was pretty straightforward.
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ksc6000 said:
No luck. It upgraded me without even warning around 2 p.m. In the middle of the freaking day. That really makes me mad because what if I needed to get a phone call or my wife needed to get ahold of me or something? I don't think that this should be legal for carriers to do this.
In either case I'm also noticing heavier than normal battery drain with this update but I'm going to give it about a week to see if the battery settles back down before I revert back to 4.2.2.
If you're sure that you want to get rid of this update I think what you should be able to do is to revert to stock 4.2.2 and then let yourself upgrade until you get to the version right before this and freeze the software update app. Have you reverted to stock before? I did it once when I had to return the phone to AT&T because of a battery defect and it was pretty straightforward.
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I have no idea on how to revert. I've never rooted my G2.

It's pretty straight forward. Here's the video I watched to do it: How to Unbrick or Restore the LG G2 ATT Version: http://youtu.be/kqw_LFuyHbE
Watch the whole thing and let me know what you think. It's pretty easy actually. All of the tools that he's using I got from this page: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2432476
You have to scroll down halfway on the first post to see att applicable steps and materials.
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Backup your phone first before using KDZ method you will lose everything.

born_fisherman said:
Backup your phone first before using KDZ method you will lose everything.
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Just for everyone's info, I downgraded to 4.4.2 D80020c and then manually updated to D80020u and froze the system update app as I don't like the most recent update (D80020y).
Let me know if you need help doing this.

[Q] Nexus 4 - no 5.0 update yet...

Hey everyone!
I got a new 8gb Nexus 4 a month ago for a great price and am using it now as my daily driver since I cracked my N5 and I am a bit bummed that it still hasn't received it's 5.0 update! It is already been nearly 2 months since they started rolling out!! My N5 already had it since the beginning of December. What is the hold-up? I don't know much about the system of ota rollouts (only that they start at about 1% of devices for the first week and in the next 2-3 they creep up to 25%, 50%, 75% and then the remaining 25%) but I am studying in the Czech Republic so I thought that it was effected by geographical location but I know people here already have 5.0 ota's on there N4s :/ So why haven't I got it? What is the problem? I am on 4.4.4 build number KTU84P....
What are my options to update manually? I don't want to use the Android SDK to update so are there any other options?? I know I could update flashing the factory images but can I do this without the SDK? I don't think the update will come and I don't want to wait any longer

Google 15 second adb install xda. That'll setup adb and fastboot on your pc. Then use fastboot to flash the factory image.
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Hi, I've used the WugFresh Nexus Root Toolkit to manually my Nexus 4 to lollipop.
If you follow the steps with this tool, it's very easy to update.
Afterlife737 said:
Hey everyone!
I got a new 8gb Nexus 4 a month ago for a great price and am using it now as my daily driver since I cracked my N5 and I am a bit bummed that it still hasn't received it's 5.0 update! It is already been nearly 2 months since they started rolling out!! My N5 already had it since the beginning of December. What is the hold-up? I don't know much about the system of ota rollouts (only that they start at about 1% of devices for the first week and in the next 2-3 they creep up to 25%, 50%, 75% and then the remaining 25%) but I am studying in the Czech Republic so I thought that it was effected by geographical location but I know people here already have 5.0 ota's on there N4s :/ So why haven't I got it? What is the problem? I am on 4.4.4 build number KTU84P....
What are my options to update manually? I don't want to use the Android SDK to update so are there any other options?? I know I could update flashing the factory images but can I do this without the SDK? I don't think the update will come and I don't want to wait any longer
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Hi! Thanks for the reply - where did you find this guide? And does the toolkit both unlock the boot loader and flash the factory images ?? If so any guide links?
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Yes, with the tool you can unlock the bootloader, root your device and then install a stock rom.
I haven't followed a guide, the tool is very good explained, it's logical
Here is the thread about this tool: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1766475
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Afterlife737 said:
Hey everyone!
I got a new 8gb Nexus 4 a month ago for a great price and am using it now as my daily driver since I cracked my N5 and I am a bit bummed that it still hasn't received it's 5.0 update! It is already been nearly 2 months since they started rolling out!! My N5 already had it since the beginning of December. What is the hold-up? I don't know much about the system of ota rollouts (only that they start at about 1% of devices for the first week and in the next 2-3 they creep up to 25%, 50%, 75% and then the remaining 25%) but I am studying in the Czech Republic so I thought that it was effected by geographical location but I know people here already have 5.0 ota's on there N4s :/ So why haven't I got it? What is the problem? I am on 4.4.4 build number KTU84P....
What are my options to update manually? I don't want to use the Android SDK to update so are there any other options?? I know I could update flashing the factory images but can I do this without the SDK? I don't think the update will come and I don't want to wait any longer
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I rooted and customized my N4 without a PC. Follow these steps:
1) Download and install Towelroot. Once it installs and reboots u should be rooted.
2) Download SuperSU and update binary the normal way.
3) Next download BootUnlocker For Nexus Devices. Install and tap on unlock. U should reboot and when the "Google" boot logo shows up there should be a unlocked lock.
4) Download BusyBox and install
5) Download TWRP Manager and install the latest TWRP version for mako.
6) You're done, press volume down+power when u turn on your phone to get access to TWRP.
I can confirm, I did this myself and like u I was stuck running 4.4.4 and I am using SimpleAOSP 5.0.2 and in my opinion its a lot more stable than Stock L
BTW Google does plan on releasing 5.0 for N4 but since they have so much issues with the OS, the OTA is being delayed
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404-Not Found said:
BTW Google does plan on releasing 5.0 for N4 but since they have so much issues with the OS, the OTA is being delayed
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You're joking right? The official Google release is on 5.0.1. And it's been out for a while now.

Yaz75 said:
You're joking right? The official Google release is on 5.0.1. And it's been out for a while now.
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Is the 5.0.1 release stable?? Is there not working? How is batterylife?

Afterlife737 said:
Is the 5.0.1 release stable?? Is there not working? How is batterylife?
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The 5.0.1 is very stable. There are a few little bugs in it but it's not so bad.
The battery life is okay, I use mine the whole day and on the end of the day he is like 15-20% remaining. Better than on Kit Kat.

Afterlife737 said:
Is the 5.0.1 release stable?? Is there not working? How is batterylife?
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You are asking questions that are really hard to define and VERY user-specific. For me personally, I have a Nexus 5 and my wife has a Nexus 4. Both units are completely stock and have never been rooted or messed with in any way. For us, 5.0+ has worked perfectly and has no major issues. I do not experience the "memory leak" that people scream about, and I get as good if not better battery life as I've ever gotten. I'm sure someone will immediately jump in and proclaim that I'm an "apologist" or a "Google fanboy" and that there are countless problems that are well documented and I'm just delusional. But for my wife and I, we simply haven't had any issues as daily users of the phone and the latest OS. For me, I didn't wait for the OTA, I sideloaded the updates and it was a VERY simple process. Hardest part was getting the drivers correct but once I figured that out, it was 10-15 minutes at most to upgrade each phone.

Ohh glad to hear that. My Nexus 5 performed the same I would say. Maybe even a tad better when compared to 4.4.4... Anyway glad to hear the N4 is the same (come to think if it, this phone has REALLY surprised me.. I initially skipped it and stuck with my Gnex until the N5 came out. But sadly I dropped that a few times while taking photos skiing and some moisture got into it and the screen cracked... As a student I can't afford the £178 repair just after Christmas so I looked around for a new cheaper phone. Was going to get the Motorola G but saw that there are still a few NEW N4's for £100! And since I've had the past 4 nexus devices it was a phone I just had to get. On 4.4.4 I literally can't tell the difference in performance and everything else in that matters is great! The screen is so-so - not because the resolution -> actually don't really notice anything bad at 720p and don't need 1080p. But as on most IPS screens you can see most of the pixels when in direct sunlight. Just a bit more here compared to the N5. But after a month - a REALLY great phone. For an unbelievable price. Even the camera isn't that bad )
Sorry, now back to my question - do you have a guide which you followed to sideload lollipop?? If so could you please link it? I'm a bit scared - I really can't afford to brick this phone at the moment. Thanks allot!
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