[Q] [HELP] Bricked Defy - black screen, white led, no sbf works - Defy Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi all
So, I have a problem with my Defy (MB525 green lens). The best will be, if I'll write my full story. Here is it:
Story
I had Defy with CM 10. It had bloated battery. I wasn't using it for 6 months because I have another phone.
Some time ago, I decided, that I'll give Defy to my grandfather. On Tuesday this week I bought new original battery. I put it in the Defy, and charge it. I could boot up my old system as I wrote, CM 10. While it was charging, I detected that I haven't got SD Card. On the other hand, I found some 4GB Samsung SD, which had my father in his Desire. The SD Card had 3 partitions, which I tried to delete, and make only one, with GParted. After I did it, Linux and Windows can't see it. (This is almost other problem, which I'm trying to solve here http://crunchbang.org/forums/viewtopic.php?pid=350683)
But, when I put the CD Card to Defy, in TWRP recovery I could see some strange symbols. I thought, that I can repair something when I wipe SD Card. When the battery charged, I decided to do factory reset and wipe SD card. Here is my first failure. In TWRP I went to custom wipe, and here I marked everything including system and I wiped it. Then I remembered that system is recovery too. TWRP wrote, that everything except SD-Ext and SD was wiped. I known that this will be a problem. Yes, after reboot only Motorola logo without recovery.
I think, there was only one option - flash SBF, which I did. I went to stock bootloader and with sbf flash in Linux, I flashed this:
JRDNEM_U3_3.4.2_179-002_DEBLUR_SIGN_SIGNED_UCAJRDNEMARAB1B80AA03A.0R_PDS03C_USAJRDNFRYORTCEE_P016_A016_HWp3_Service1FF.sbf
And than this:
CM7RC1.5_16_09_11_custom.sbf
After reboot, I got bootloop. I tried to replace battery, do factory reset but nothing helped. That time I haven't got working card, so I couldn't flash some zip via CWM recovery. Thus, I again flash another SBF, but I don't really remember which. Probably some official CEE Froyo however, I'm not sure.
After that and reboot, I got only black screen with white led lighting while USB was connected. When I wanted to go to stock bootloader, still black screen, but I can flash SBF, and while flashing, screen have brightness and text about flashing.
I knew that this is little hard brick. I again tried to flash other SBF which I have or I downloaded (yes, again I don't know which). One of SBFs which I flashed was some fixed Chinese SBF . That made my defy booting, screen working, but still bootlooping. I couldn't reach any recovery.
Again, I flashed other SBFs, CM's too but nothing worked and I got black screen again.
And this was end of my story.
Current situation
I have Defy (MB525 green lens), with unknown framework an it had only black screen and what only I can do, is break Defy with hammer or flash some SBF.
So, here is list of all SBF files, that I have downloaded and probably tried to flash: (No order)
JRDNEM_U3_3.4.2_179-002_DEBLUR_SIGN_SIGNED_UCAJRDNEMARAB1B80AA03A.0R_PDS03C_USAJRDNFRYORTCEE_P016_A016_HWp3_Service1FF.sbf
CM7RC1.5_16_09_11_custom.sbf
JRDNEM_U3_2.51.1_BLUR_P3_SIGN_SIGNED_UCAJRDNEMARAB1B80AA030.0R_USAJORDANO2DE_P048_A015_HWp3_Service1FF.sbf
JRDNEM_U3_3.4.2_177-003_BLUR_SIGN_SIGNED_USAJRDNEMARAB1B8RTGB03A.0R_PDS03C_USAJRDNFRYORTGB_P019_A010_HWp3_Service1FF.sbf
DFPRC_U_4.5.3-109_DPP-6-7_SIGNED_USADEFYPRCB1B50AA00A.0R_JRDNGIBRRTGC_P025_A019_HWp3a_Service1FF.sbf
JDGC_U6_2.13.0_SIGNED_USAJRDNPRCB1B50AA039.0R_JORDANAPCNCU_P017_A042_M006_HWp3_Service1FF.sbf
JORDN_U3_97.21.51.sbf
JRDNEM_U3_3.4.2_155-002_DEBLUR_SIGN_SIGNED_UCAJRDNEMARAB1B80AA03A.0R_PDS03C_USAJRDNFRYORTCEE_P011_A010_HWp3_Service1FF.sbf
4.5.1-134-DFP-132-gingerbread-BL6-fixed.sbf
4.5.2-109-DHT-22-gingerbread-BL5-fixed.sbf
3.4.2-177-003-nordic-froyo-fixed.sbf
3.4.2-179-002-tmobile-froyo-fixed.sbf
4.5.1-134-DFP-74-gingerbread-BL5-fixed.sbf
4.5.3-109-DPP-11-gingerbread-BL5-fixed.sbf
JRDNEM_U3_3.4.2_155-002_DEBLUR_SIGN.sbf
Probably that is all what I have.
I've read many topics with similar problem and guides, but nothing helped me, or SBFs were unavailable.
So, what have I to flash, or which guide to try, if I want working Defy?
Sorry for my not good English
Thanks
UPDATE
sterver1 said:
Wohooo!!
Story
After a long time (4 months)...
Accidentally today I found my favorite custom ROM - MoKee OS, for Defy. I said to myself: "Hm, I have some time... I'll try to flash this MoKee on my Defy and maybe it solve my problem with (not) charging/unknown battery for system."
I picked out box with Defy from drawer, wiped the dust, took the Defy and said: "Sh*t! I haven't got SD Card!" Fortunately I found one. I download MoKee OS zip on that SD Card, put it to Defy, booted to recovery and flash MoKee OS zip. (...with full wipe of course...) Then rebooted to system.
Uselessly. Still unknown battery. "Hmm, It doesn't matter. Maybe here are some new stuffs which can solve my problem." And I continued to finding something, that can solve my problem. After a while I found ROMs with new 3.0 Kernel by Quarx. HERE. I downloaded CM 11 EXPERIMENTAL with this kernel and update recovery and flashed them. I didn't read thread. After reboot system didn't boot up and TWRP was inaccessible. I found why when I read some posts from that thread. HERE. But I couldn't flash that zip via recovery because I couldn't open recovery. So I mount /system to USB from bootloader and added files from zip manually to /system partition. After reboot it jammed on booting up. But TWRP was accessible so I did full wipe and flashed CM 11 EXPERIMENTAL and than that fix zip by @lorcotti. After that it finally booted up and battery was working and charging!
And they all lived happily ever after. :laugh:
SO, If you have some problem as me (unknown battery after flashing GB SBF on MB525), try this:
1. Download recovery and some ROM from [Kernel][GPL] Development 3.0 Kernel and fix from this post.
2. Put all zips on your SD Card.
3. Boot up to recovery.
4. Flash update-recovery.zip.
5. Reboot to recovery.
6. Do full wipe.
7. Flash ROM with 3.0 Kernel.
8. Flash Fix.
9. Wipe cache and dalvik cache.
10. Reboot to system.​
If you want, you can flash GAPPS via recovery too.
But this will not be for daily usage! 3.0 Kernel by Quarx have a lot of bugs!
Thanks all!
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Yeah!
Today I again tried to flash chines SBF. This one: JDGC_U6_2.13.0 China Unicom Thread/Download !!!BL6 kernel !!!
JDGC_U6_2.13.0_SIGNED_USAJRDNPRCB1B50AA039.0R_JORDANAPCNCU_P017_A042_M006_HWp3_Service1FF.sbf
...and now I have bootable phone . I read many topics again and I got to know how to aces stock recovery. So I made wipe on this chines ROM and I can boot without loop, but I can only do emergency call with SIM it is the same. So, now, I don't know, what have I to do/flash, how to root it and flash here custom rom. Can I use SuperOneClick if it probably haven't got turned on USD Debugging?

Back on black
So, I made sbf file with depacker...
CMG39 from JRDNEM_U3_3.4.2_155-002_DEBLUR_SIGN_SIGNED_UCAJRDNEMARAB1B80AA03A.0R_PDS03C_USAJRDNFRYORTCEE_P011_A010_HWp3_Service1FF
and all others from JDGC_U6_2.13.0_SIGNED_USAJRDNPRCB1B50AA039.0R_JORDANAPCNCU_P017_A042_M006_HWp3_Service1FF except CMG31.
Than the bootscreen changed from chines logo to grey motorola logo and I got Bootloader (9.00) Error A5,70,39,00,27. After that I flashed another sbf and I got Error A5,70,00,00,23. Than I flashed DEFYPLUS_U3_4.5.1-134_DFP-231_CEE_ROOTED_No_Signed.sbf and now I again have only black screen. F*ck!
I tried to flash my made sbf and chines one (JDGC_U6_2.13.0_SIGNED_USAJRDNPRCB1B50AA039.0R_JORDANAPCNCU_P017_A042_M006_HWp3_Service1FF) too but nothing...
Really here is nobody who can help please??? I want give Defy as Christmas gift. :crying:

OK, so repetition.
What mistakes I've made
1. I wipe wipe all including system partition in TWRP without any flashable zip on SD card.
2. I continued with flashing original SBF, while I have usable CWM.
3. I flashed many no downgradable GB SBFs.
4. I flashed Defy Plus SBF on Defy.
I hope that there is still hope.
Somehow to downgrade, flash only CWM where I can flash nandroid backup or I don't know what else...

a gingerbread sbf should also work on green lens defy as there is no diff. in hw... instead the cam
have you tried a factory reset in stock recovery after sbf flash ?
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Now, after all (which I tried) SBFs I get only black screen. I tried many GB SBFs too, but still black screen...
I'm going to try some another Poland SBFs and than if that won't work, I'll try to flash all in Froyo CEE SBF particularly.
Thanks for your response.

Once you've flashed GB stock sbf you can't go back staight to froyo or else
Read the beginners guide and the SBF matrix sektion carefully.. if you haven't...
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DFP 231 has been flashed by you, so no froyo sbf will work. Black screen on dfp 231 indicates some eMMC problem, because bl version is highest(no error possible). IMHO only service centre can disable bl check or replace the main board to fix the problem
The problem should have been solved at the boot loop issue by wiping from stock recovery, no network solved by baseband/radio fixes. Check the rsdlite log file to confirm checksum/access errors. I think that the custom sbf somehow messed up either eMMC or efuse(less likely, unheard of).
For sdcard error wipe everything using hdd llf. If any error persists it's a hardware issue
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@bone101
I know, I read it few times, and I know how it is (not) working. But, after all GB SBFs I got only black screen, so maybe were not correctly flashed... I'm using Linux and here is sbf_flash for flashing SBFs, and in it I can't view informations about phone as in RSD Lite... But maybe, it will work in wine..
Do you now, that if I flashed GB SBF, I have to flash another GB to solve my problem, because no Froyo will work?
@thekguy
I know how I can solve others problems. Only what I need help to solve is black screen.
Can't I flash something which support that high BL or it won't work?

check if you get into Bl. modus
press vol. up & then power button
tell what you see
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That's what I'm saying, the black screen problem occurs due to bl version mostly, and you have highest bl, so in theory black screen is impossible. Unfortunately I have never seen in this forum any defy recovering from black screen after flashing dfp231. Check rsd log from windows if possible. Froyo sbf cannot work under any circumstance. You must flash only gb sbf
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@bone101
When I acess bootloader I have only black screen... While flashing I can see
"SW Update
In progress.."
Ok, I have Windows notebook available... Here are device properites from RSD Lite:
IMEI/ESN/MEID: N / A
Technology: N / A
Software Version: N / A
Flex Version: N / A
Bootloader Version: v0x000910
DRM Version: N / A
AP Die ID: 173002052f066b010000dcff0200
BP Die ID: 0000000000000000000000000000
AP Public ID: d0d8842b4879dd27b9eb94f970fbeec252fcb2f4
BP Public ID: 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000
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I'm going to try some GB SBFs here...
WOHOOO I've got it! I flashed 231_GR_SIGN_UCADEFYEMARAB1B80AA004.0R_PDS03C_USAJRDNGIBRRTCEE_P022_A022_Service1FF.sbf and now I have got bootable phone... I'm in the system. I'm going to root it and flash CWM and MIUI if it will work.
Really thanks for your help!

sterver1 said:
@bone101
When I acess bootloader I have only black screen... While flashing I can see
"SW Update
In progress.."
Ok, I have Windows notebook available... Here are device properites from RSD Lite:
I'm going to try some GB SBFs here...
WOHOOO I've got it! I flashed 231_GR_SIGN_UCADEFYEMARAB1B80AA004.0R_PDS03C_USAJRDNGIBRRTCEE_P022_A022_Service1FF.sbf and now I have got bootable phone... I'm in the system. I'm going to root it and flash CWM and MIUI if it will work.
Really thanks for your help!
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I'm stuck in same problem, downloading this sbf you mention before, hope it works. Fu^kin defy, it sucks

@Alejandrissimo
Good luck...
I have another problem. Now, I have GB kernel. In original 2.3.6 GB on MB525 green camera don't work, and battery too. So, I thought that, when I flash Froyo kernel (CM) and CM7 I got back Froyo kernel and working camera and battery. Yes, this was not possible. After I did it and rebooted it I got Bootloader error. I flashed DFP-231 again. Worked.
Than I tried restore Froyo from nandroid which I found something here on forum. Than I flashed CM7 and bootloader error again.
Now I have CM7 by Maniac for defy plus which worked well except camera and battery... I know that here are many topics about downgrading, camera fixing and others but all which I read are bad in something for me...
Here are some options what I found but I don't know if I can use one:
Method 2: (BIG thanks to Jebrew again for this one)
NOTE: You are going to need CM7 for this one. CM7 Stable version recommended.
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from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1216982
DOWNGRADE
If you come from Android 2.1 and never flashed Android 2.2 you can use the fixed sbf-files method. With this method you will have a option to downgrade to you personal stock Android 2.1 via direct sbf flash.
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from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=966537 but I'v ever flashed Android 2.2.
Or http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1465436 ... This is better option but I have flashed full 2.3.6 SBF and here is:
It will only work if you never flashed a Android 2.3.6 full sbf.
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So, how can I downgrade or repair battery and camera? I don't care whether I have got GB or Froyo kernel if I have working camera and battery.

have you tried cm11 ?
or ms2ginger by walter79
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sterver1 said:
@Alejandrissimo
Good luck...
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Working and rooted, thanks for your help

Alejandrissimo said:
Working and rooted, thanks for your help
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please see your PN

sterver1 said:
@Alejandrissimo
Good luck...
I have another problem. Now, I have GB kernel. In original 2.3.6 GB on MB525 green camera don't work, and battery too. So, I thought that, when I flash Froyo kernel (CM) and CM7 I got back Froyo kernel and working camera and battery. Yes, this was not possible. After I did it and rebooted it I got Bootloader error. I flashed DFP-231 again. Worked.
Than I tried restore Froyo from nandroid which I found something here on forum. Than I flashed CM7 and bootloader error again.
Now I have CM7 by Maniac for defy plus which worked well except camera and battery... I know that here are many topics about downgrading, camera fixing and others but all which I read are bad in something for me...
Here are some options what I found but I don't know if I can use one:
from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1216982
from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=966537 but I'v ever flashed Android 2.2.
Or http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1465436 ... This is better option but I have flashed full 2.3.6 SBF and here is:
So, how can I downgrade or repair battery and camera? I don't care whether I have got GB or Froyo kernel if I have working camera and battery.
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Congrats man! Seems that rsdlite on Windows is the most reliable solution. Now to fix everything just flash cm10 (jelly bean) or later rom. It includes fixes for camera and battery
Again, no downgrading bl(not even jtag will work)
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Oh, ok. I'll try it. Thanks.
Hmm, and than, can I flash CM7 by Maniac or JB/GB WIUI and fixes in CM10 will still working?
Ms2ginger is not good for me because it haven't got slovak language. I'll give defy to my grandfather.
//And now, in Quarx CM 10 my battery don't charge. I tried 2 chargers and charging via USB too.
In options, battery is still "60% - Unknown"
Alejandrissimo said:
Working and rooted, thanks for your help
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Hehe, I'm glad...

sterver1 said:
Oh, ok. I'll try it. Thanks.
Hmm, and than, can I flash CM7 by Maniac or JB/GB WIUI and fixes in CM10 will still working?
Ms2ginger is not good for me because it haven't got slovak language. I'll give defy to my grandfather.
//And now, in Quarx CM 10 my battery don't charge. I tried 2 chargers and charging via USB too.
In options, battery is still "60% - Unknown"
Hehe, I'm glad...
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There's a cm7 2ndboot build which should work for you. Try cm10.1 or above, problem should be solved.
JB wiui includes those fixes, as does cm7 2ndboot. I don't think that wiui GB has them. I would personally go for cm10.1 or above
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[Q] defy+ - tried to install miui, didn't work

Hi Guys and Girls, I hope this is the right place for my question. Sorry if I sound like a 12-year old - my english is not really the best...
I own the Motorola Defy+, and I tried to get rid of motoblur. I installed SndInit 2.0, did a reboot, did a backup, did factory reset, wiped dalvik cache and picked the miui-rom I had previously placed on my SD. The installation went pretty good, my phone told me that it finished the installation and I did another reboot.
After the reboot I get the red M (default Motorola-logo just like before I was meddling around with the phone) but just for a very short period of time and then I get a black screen with white letters (slightly out of proportion) saying:
Bootloader
09.10
Err:A5,70,00,00,23
Battery OK
OK to Program
Transfer Mode:
USB
When I remove the USB-cable the last two lines are replaced by:
Connect USB
Data Cable
Do you guys have any idea, how I could get MIUI, CM or anything else running on my phone again? I'd even be quite happy to have the stockrom running again, since a phone with ****ty motoblur is still better than no phone at all.
I'd be really grateful for any kind of help, thanks in advance.
The miui you installed was for defy or defy+? And , can you access to recovery?
Motorola Defy CM7 RC 1.5 OC 1GHz
You have forgot to do 2 things. this might be the problem .
Do:
1. Factory reset.
2. wipe data cache.
3. wipe dalvik cache.
4.install MIUI rom.
5. wipe once again data cache.
6. reboot.
If you can access recovery again . my guess you can..
Thank you guys for taking care of me!!
@LeonardoJegigzem
The MIUI is called miui-ger_DEFY_1.12.23_FULL_EN_DE.zip - it's for Defy but I've read in forums that it should run on Defy+ aswell.
@VoLtrex31
I can't access recovery (I'm assuming you're talking about the "push volume-down when blue LED turns on"-recovery?), the screen I described in OP appears right after the red-M shows up for the first time.
You are right, I didn't wipe data cache neither before, nor after the installation.
Thats not good.
Search in the forums for how to access the recovery via your computer..
This might be your only way.
Ask more forums for technical help since xda is not the best forum for asking for help.
because i am not an expert .
But don't worry i bet many people got that problem too so there is a solution .
at last you have stock recovery(i think)
to access it (on defy) ress and hold VOL DOWN and power button.
Than after(about 10 sec) you'll get an exclamation mark.
Now press VOL UP and DOWN at the same time and you can wipe data.
If phone boots up perfectly yo can reinstall 2ndinit.
If not.. i think that you have to flash the appropriate sbf via rsd lite.
buruss said:
at last you have stock recovery(i think)
to access it (on defy) ress and hold VOL DOWN and power button.
Than after(about 10 sec) you'll get an exclamation mark.
Now press VOL UP and DOWN at the same time and you can wipe data.
If phone boots up perfectly yo can reinstall 2ndinit.
If not.. i think that you have to flash the appropriate sbf via rsd lite.
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Now that's great news - the folks at motorola seem to know that ppl want to avoid ****ty motoblur and **** up their phones so they built an easy way to rescue broken phones.
I will try that asap - right now I'm using an old sony ericsson Xperia X8 - want my Defy+ back!
Thanks buruss!
Hi guy,I know about what you talking.
1. everytime i stuck on "white letters" i recovered my defy+ with RSDLite and correct SBF file.
2. If you have 2.3.6 version of stock rom,miui or any common cm7 won't work - afaik. You must downgrade (somewhere is topic about it) or use cm7.2 or cm9
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mikrom.cz said:
Hi guy,I know about what you talking.
1. everytime i stuck on "white letters" i recovered my defy+ with RSDLite and correct SBF file.
2. If you have 2.3.6 version of stock rom,miui or any common cm7 won't work - afaik. You must downgrade (somewhere is topic about it) or use cm7.2 or cm9
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Yea, I 've been through the same today/yesterday, and after a lot of cursing I can tell you it is exactly like this T.T you have to re-flash the stock ROM 2.3.6 again, and then if you find a way to downgrade/install Miui-CM/basically anything than staying with the stock ROM, let me know! xD
Just relax, I'm telling you this because yesterday I could have killed a dragon with my bare hands, but a soft brick is NP, as long as RSDlite recognizes your phone you can always going back to safety, from what I've learnt hard bricking a Defy is veryveryvery hard, thanks/due to a locked boot loader
Hey Guys, first let me thank you! I'm feeling quite happy now knowing that I'm not the only one with this kinda problem and I'll try the RSDlite-rescue-mission in a few days.
Happy new year everybody!
mikrokosmonaut said:
Hey Guys, first let me thank you! I'm feeling quite happy now knowing that I'm not the only one with this kinda problem and I'll try the RSDlite-rescue-mission in a few days.
Happy new year everybody!
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I guess it's inevitable, when you start trying this and that custom ROM, sooner or later you're going to screw it up xD but it's actually good when that happens, because you know 100% you can fix everything - you did it once, you'll do it again
Happy new year!
miui uses the 2.2 froyo as base, since all the defy plus have gingerbread miui wont boot, miui hve boot.img and davtree.img in the rom.zip, if you flashan old boot.img in to a newer defy plus with new bootloader(2.3.6) you get an error, ho to fix it, try deleting the boot.img and devtree.img from the zip and replace the 2.3.6 boot.img and devtree.img form 2.3.6 and add it to the zip( miui rom) and try to flash it again and see if it works
You guys are awesome! Phone is booting again
installed RSDlite 5.3.1
downloaded the latest .sbf for my phone and my provider
let RSDlite do its magic and now everything's working just fine.
Next thing to do - try again to get rid of motoblur!
It's not 100% true, I installed MIUI over my 2.3.4 Gingebread and it worked like a charm
Only problem is, I can't install it anymore now that I'm on 2.3.6, but 2.2 is not strictly needed, 2.3.4 worked as well
Hey, guys! I have the exact same problem. I tried to install a Galnet MIUI ROM over at galnetmiui.co.uk, and i messed it up. I didn't really know what i was doing. Perhaps i forgot to wipe cache after installation. Have the exact same error message as mikrokosmonaut.
I was running my mb 256 with android 2.3.6, as far as I know, i have to use RSD Lite to istall stock rom again. Where do I find the correct SBF? My phone was bought without a service provider subscribtion, so I have no clue where to find the right SBF. I have no objection against having blur on the phone.
Can anyone help?
hi guys!!
i've tried to install miui on my defy+ 2.3.6.. like i read on this thread i modified the .zip file changing the boot.img and devtree with the original one.
but mt defy can't boot.. stuck at motorola logo..
what can i do?? does anyone managed to install miui on a defy+ 2.3.6?
now i'm using cyanogen and it works fine, but i prefer miui
thanks!!
daede86 said:
hi guys!!
i've tried to install miui on my defy+ 2.3.6.. like i read on this thread i modified the .zip file changing the boot.img and devtree with the original one.
but mt defy can't boot.. stuck at motorola logo..
what can i do?? does anyone managed to install miui on a defy+ 2.3.6?
now i'm using cyanogen and it works fine, but i prefer miui
thanks!!
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I don't think MIUI work on 2.3.6. you need CM7.2, or maybe some latest nightly version of MIUI
mikrom.cz said:
I don't think MIUI work on 2.3.6. you need CM7.2, or maybe some latest nightly version of MIUI
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thanks for your reply! indeed i'm using cm 7.2.. it works pretty well, except some delays! never heard about miui nightly! i did a research on google but i couldn't find anything.. any idea??
thanks again!
hi again!
i was thinking.. you said miui shouldn't work on 2.3.6 and i guess you are right! so if i do the same thing i did (change the boot and devtree file in the latest miui.zip that is 2.3.7 if i'm not wrong) but using files from android 2.3.7?
maybe i try to explain myself better..
i make a nandroid backup of my cm 7.s2 which is 2.3.7.
then i change the files boot and devtree from cm 7.2 to the latest miui.
should it work? what do you think?
thanks again
Hi, folks! *GREAT NEWS!*
Some guys over at the devs section on the thread below have found a froyo sbf with bootloader 6 (the same as the defy 2.3.6 sbf)!!! This means we can use it to downgrade to froyo and install MIUI over it!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1486731
I haven't tried it yet, but will flash later today or tomorrow. You should read through some of the posts and decide for yourselves if you want to try or not.
All the best!
-If I managed to help you in any way, please press the thanks button!

[Q] Stuck on Google logo, can't access recovery mode

I've just tried upgrading to ICS and failed. Apparently I flashed the wrong kernel - should have flashed the CM7 one, but flashed the CM9.
Now my Defy is stuck on the Google logo and I don't know how to reach recovery mode. Pressing Power+voldown does nothing. Power+volup gives me the bootloader, which asks me to connect a usb cable, but I have no idea what to do after that.
I have two Nandroid backups: one stock (2.2) and another with CM7 (2.3.7). My Defy has a green lens.
Is there any way to restore my phone to one of those backups?
Thanks in advance
Do you still see the blue led for custom recovery?
Hmetool said:
I've just tried upgrading to ICS and failed. Apparently I flashed the wrong kernel - should have flashed the CM7 one, but flashed the CM9.
Now my Defy is stuck on the Google logo and I don't know how to reach recovery mode. Pressing Power+voldown does nothing. Power+volup gives me the bootloader, which asks me to connect a usb cable, but I have no idea what to do after that.
I have two Nandroid backups: one stock (2.2) and another with CM7 (2.3.7). My Defy has a green lens.
Is there any way to restore my phone to one of those backups?
Thanks in advance
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You will need to flash a new SBF with RSD lite
follow instructions in this thread
How to flash new SBF
Hmetool said:
I've just tried upgrading to ICS and failed. Apparently I flashed the wrong kernel - should have flashed the CM7 one, but flashed the CM9.
Now my Defy is stuck on the Google logo and I don't know how to reach recovery mode. Pressing Power+voldown does nothing. Power+volup gives me the bootloader, which asks me to connect a usb cable, but I have no idea what to do after that.
I have two Nandroid backups: one stock (2.2) and another with CM7 (2.3.7). My Defy has a green lens.
Is there any way to restore my phone to one of those backups?
Thanks in advance
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Do not flash any sbf's. Reboot the phone, at the blue led press Vol- and when you get into boot menu, flash the correct kernel. If you flashed Defy build, flash CM7 (Froyo) kernel. If you flashed the Defy+ build, flash CM9 (Bingerbread) kernel.
fiskenigaten said:
Do you still see the blue led for custom recovery?
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I see the blue led, but it goes on to green regardless of what I do (power+voldown does nothing). I've tried to access recovery mode several times, but the phone doesn't respond. Maybe I'm doing something wrong.
rperdue5 said:
You will need to flash a new SBF with RSD lite
follow instructions in this thread
How to flash new SBF
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I've read the guide, but my original SBF is missing ever since MegaUpload's demise. Is it possible to use the Nandroid backup instead?
Auris 1.6 vvt-i said:
Do not flash any sbf's. Reboot the phone, at the blue led press Vol- and when you get into boot menu, flash the correct kernel. If you flashed Defy build, flash CM7 (Froyo) kernel. If you flashed the Defy+ build, flash CM9 (Bingerbread) kernel.
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Ok, apparently I wasn't pressing the button at the right time. Recovery mode is now working. However, I don't have the correct kernel in my SD card - only the wrong one.
My Nandroid backup seems not to be working too, apparently. I went into recovery and restored it, but boot still doesn't work. I wiped data/cache/dalvik cache and tried again, but it still didn't work. I'm at a loss here.
Should I try to flash some other sbf, since I can't find my phone's stock one?
Hmetool said:
Ok, apparently I wasn't pressing the button at the right time. Recovery mode is now working. However, I don't have the correct kernel in my SD card - only the wrong one.
My Nandroid backup seems not to be working too, apparently. I went into recovery and restored it, but boot still doesn't work. I wiped data/cache/dalvik cache and tried again, but it still didn't work. I'm at a loss here.
Should I try to flash some other sbf, since I can't find my phone's stock one?
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go to ICS thread and on the first post there is a link to signed CM7 kernel zip..copy it to ur sd card and flash it..
arpith.fbi said:
go to ICS thread and on the first post there is a link to signed CM7 kernel zip..copy it to ur sd card and flash it..
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I just tried installing the zip from the sdcard, but I got an error message: "Can't make /tmp/update_binary. Installation aborted". It seems that I can't install any zip now.
Is there any way out of that? I'd be more than happy if I could just flash my nandroid backup, even if that means being stuck without ICS for a bit more time.
I'm on ClockworkMod Recovery v2.5.1.8, if that helps.
Hmetool said:
I just tried installing the zip from the sdcard, but I got an error message: "Can't make /tmp/update_binary. Installation aborted". It seems that I can't install any zip now.
Is there any way out of that? I'd be more than happy if I could just flash my nandroid backup, even if that means being stuck without ICS for a bit more time.
I'm on ClockworkMod Recovery v2.5.1.8, if that helps.
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Hi,
I faced a similar issue but it was since I flashed CM9 for Defy in my Defy+ with 2.3.6(stock) ! Nothing was working and I would get some boot errors! I rectified it by flashing full SBF and then rooting. Well if you want I can provide you with the SBF I have but it is for 2.3.6 and so you will loose downgradability. I have 4.5.1-134-DFP-1321 - retail-asia full Blur multilanguage with me. However, you can also give Walter's fixed SBF and Nandroid backup a try
Thanks, it turns out that flashing a sbf was a nice way out of this mess. I flashed a 2.2.2 which is almost identical to my stock rom (couldn't find that one).
If I root my phone now, can I still try to restore my nandroid backup? Or should I just skip that and try flashing ICS again?
My SD card has the 03-19 CM9 Nightly, gapps and both CM9 and CM7 signed kernels. Should that suffice? CM7 kernel is the right one for green lens defy, right?
Hmetool said:
Thanks, it turns out that flashing a sbf was a nice way out of this mess. I flashed a 2.2.2 which is almost identical to my stock rom (couldn't find that one).
If I root my phone now, can I still try to restore my nandroid backup? Or should I just skip that and try flashing ICS again?
My SD card has the 03-19 CM9 Nightly, gapps and both CM9 and CM7 signed kernels. Should that suffice? CM7 kernel is the right one for green lens defy, right?
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If you are on a green lensed Defy, then yes - flash CM7 signed kernel and one of the Froyo bulds of Quarx or Epsylon3 - try them all if you wish and see which one you like the most.
Procedure is easy:
1. Full wipe
2. Flash CM7 kernel
3. Flash ROM
4. Flash gapps
5. Full Wipe
6. Reboot
When you decide to try a new ROM, there is no need to flash the kernel again, just wipe, flash the new ROM and gapps and then wipe again.
Auris 1.6 vvt-i said:
If you are on a green lensed Defy, then yes - flash CM7 signed kernel and one of the Froyo bulds of Quarx or Epsylon3 - try them all if you wish and see which one you like the most.
Procedure is easy:
1. Full wipe
2. Flash CM7 kernel
3. Flash ROM
4. Flash gapps
5. Full Wipe
6. Reboot
When you decide to try a new ROM, there is no need to flash the kernel again, just wipe, flash the new ROM and gapps and then wipe again.
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Thanks, that's great. Are all regular Defy roms Froyo builds unless stated otherwise? I couldn't find that info on the files I have.
One question: by full wipe you mean data/cache/dalvik cache or is there anything else that I'm missing?
Hmetool said:
Thanks, that's great. Are all regular Defy roms Froyo builds unless stated otherwise? I couldn't find that info on the files I have.
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Yes, "Defy build" means Froyo kernel based, "Defy+ build" means GB kernel based.
Hmetool said:
One question: by full wipe you mean data/cache/dalvik cache
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Exactly.
Auris 1.6 vvt-i said:
Yes, "Defy build" means Froyo kernel based, "Defy+ build" means GB kernel based.
Exactly.
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Yep, that's exactly what it is..
I've just rooted my phone again, followed the steps and installed CM9. It worked like a charm. I was pleasantly surprised at how smoothly it runs, didn't expect that sort of quality from a Nightly. Awesome.
Thanks a lot for saving my phone, guys.
Hmetool said:
I've just rooted my phone again, followed the steps and installed CM9. It worked like a charm. I was pleasantly surprised at how smoothly it runs, didn't expect that sort of quality from a Nightly. Awesome.
Thanks a lot for saving my phone, guys.
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Sounds great Well since CM9 nightly is still a long way to go, you may want to dual boot CM7 and CM9. Install CM7 as primary and dual boot to CM9.
Guide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1375156
i did the same thing on my defy im a noob and need alor of help.
Ok so i had a motorola defy and i wanted to update it to cyanogenmod 7 but it must have been the wrong one and now its stuck on google boot i can't get to my custom recovery screen by pressing volume - and power buttons and if i press volume + i get this black screen asking to plug in the usb to the laptop which i did but i don't know what to do now. i need complete instructions! , iv checked ALOT of forums and tried following this ones instructions, but RSD lite wont download and install like it said it would . and i have no idea how to get tmobile android 2.2 OS for motorola defy. if i could just get that back i would be more then forever greatfull . please someone HELP ! please all be forever in debt to whoever can help me.
blackhack516 said:
Ok so i had a motorola defy and i wanted to update it to cyanogenmod 7 but it must have been the wrong one and now its stuck on google boot i can't get to my custom recovery screen by pressing volume - and power buttons and if i press volume + i get this black screen asking to plug in the usb to the laptop which i did but i don't know what to do now. i need complete instructions! , iv checked ALOT of forums and tried following this ones instructions, but RSD lite wont download and install like it said it would . and i have no idea how to get tmobile android 2.2 OS for motorola defy. if i could just get that back i would be more then forever greatfull . please someone HELP ! please all be forever in debt to whoever can help me.
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Try running three setup as administrator. Read all in defy guide. Check the wiki for more guides.
Sent from my MB525 using XDA
do u have a link?
labsin said:
Try running three setup as administrator. Read all in defy guide. Check the wiki for more guides.
Sent from my MB525 using XDA
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do u have a link

[Q] Red LED and Black screen on CM10 2nd-boor ROM's

Hey there, I've tried almost every method to boot up the new Quarx builds, but for me it's impossible to boot this ROM's on my Defy red lens.
I have pull out the battery, installed the fix for dead screens, flashed 2409 and then the 0610 kernel, but no result.
Also, I wasn't able to boot the last non 2nd-boot built, the 2409 CM10 Nightly so I'm using 1209.
The only thing that I haven't is flashing another .sbf, but RSDLite doesn't recognize my Defy and Windows also not, with the latest drivers of Motorola installed.
Please, if anyone knows how to help me, reply me as soon as you can.
Thanks in advance and sorry for my poor english.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1818520 try it with this zip, it worked for me. just erase all and flash latest build.
Jelly powered.Defy
Thank you for replying so fast, but I have already tried that a couple of times before. Anyway, I'll try again.
More info about my problem: when I flash any of the 2nd-boot ROM's and boot into bootmenu and after that select again 2nd boot, the screen goes black, BUT the backlight of the buttons turns on. Does it mean anything ?
Thanks in advance
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TinoSP said:
Thank you for replying so fast, but I have already tried that a couple of times before. Anyway, I'll try again.
More info about my problem: when I flash any of the 2nd-boot ROM's and boot into bootmenu and after that select again 2nd boot, the screen goes black, BUT the backlight of the buttons turns on. Does it mean anything ?
Thanks in advance
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normal the buttons flash and after few seconds u see the boot animation.
tell me more about ur phone.
what bl? and what model mb525 or 526.
Jelly powered.Defy
AnTerNoZ said:
normal the buttons flash and after few seconds u see the boot animation.
tell me more about ur phone.
what bl? and what model mb525 or 526.
Jelly powered.Defy
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It's an MB525 Red lenses(Bayer). I don't know what kind of BL has, it comes from the official Froyo ROM of Vodafone Spain, and after that CM7,
So close..but I waited when the buttons were on for about an hour or something and nothing happened, should I be more patient?
TinoSP said:
It's an MB525 Red lenses(Bayer). I don't know what kind of BL has, it comes from the official Froyo ROM of Vodafone Spain, and after that CM7,
So close..but I waited when the buttons were on for about an hour or something and nothing happened, should I be more patient?
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if u wait longer ur battery run out of power! don't do this or u have to mcgyver it.
do the following
load the CM10 2nd boot new
load the new version 4 update
wipe ur device
install ROM + update
install Gapps ur want
restart phone, if u get red led longer than a minute, pull battery out for 5-10min and press power button when battery is removed.
put back the battery, and wait for the CM10 bootanimation.
if that not work ur bl is not compatible and u had to flash a higher one, it's known that some bl5 not work, u just had to flash a bl6 ROM. for the ROM just look at the thread were all roms in, there u can found ur bl version.
Jelly powered.Defy
AnTerNoZ said:
if u wait longer ur battery run out of power! don't do this or u have to mcgyver it.
do the following
load the CM10 2nd boot new
load the new version 4 update
wipe ur device
install ROM + update
install Gapps ur want
restart phone, if u get red led longer than a minute, pull battery out for 5-10min and press power button when battery is removed.
put back the battery, and wait for the CM10 bootanimation.
if that not work ur bl is not compatible and u had to flash a higher one, it's known that some bl5 not work, u just had to flash a bl6 ROM. for the ROM just look at the thread were all roms in, there u can found ur bl version.
Jelly powered.Defy
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Ok, I'm gonna try it, but first, to ensure that I'm doing the steps right, I'm gonna ask you two things: With "wipe" you mean wipe data+cache+dalvik or with the defy_full_wipe.zip?
And till now, I have flashed the updates as a normal ROM, should I flash them as an update.zip ?
yes, it's an update.zip! just enter custom recovery and go to install zip.
and wiping with recovery is enought, i use the ultimate zip only if i get problems.
Jelly powered.Defy
I have just tried and it hasn't worked. Thanks anyways for you efforts. I think that my only possible solution is flashing a new .sbf, but Rsdlite doesn't recognize my Defy
Sent from my MB525 using xda app-developers app
have u tried a different USB slot?
if u flash an sbf, try the custom ones, they are great.
Jelly powered.Defy
Yes, I have tried in four different USB ports in my laptop and even Windows doesn't recognize it, it shows my Defy as a unknown device
Sent from my MB525 using xda app-developers app
hmmm... what OS u had on PC? had u tried reinstall Motorola drivers with reboot?
Jelly powered.Defy
same problem, green lense
I have the same issues.
I have a green lens defy, was able to flash every nightly version until the 0924 version. So in other words, the last ROM that I was able to get booted was the 0912 quarx CM10 nightly.
I have looked in all the threads I could find, searched as much as I could, tried every technique, and still can't get past the black screen with the red LED.
I absolutely cannot get it to work no matter what I try. I've seriously read at least half a dozen people's instructions and nothing works. NOTHING! I have not tried starting from a stock sbf because I'm satisfied just barely enough using the 0912 nightly.
HELP!
Try to restore your Nandroid backup. If it does not work use RSDLite on a clean OS and reinstall root access,2ndinit and CM10.
Sent from my MB526 using xda app-developers app
AnTerNoZ said:
hmmm... what OS u had on PC? had u tried reinstall Motorola drivers with reboot?
Jelly powered.Defy
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I have Windows 7 Home Premium, and I have run RSDLite in administrator rights and even in compatibility mode. I didn't tried to reinstall drivers because I don't have much time right now, so I'll tell you.
nastys said:
Try to restore your Nandroid backup. If it does not work use RSDLite on a clean OS and reinstall root access,2ndinit and CM10.
Sent from my MB526 using xda app-developers app
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Are you replying to bulbouscorm or to me?
it happens to me with win 7 ultimate that the driver I installed half year before was corrupt, pleas try reinstall.
it's really not often that a defy will not recognized on PC.
u can also try a Linux Live-CD to flash it from there. but I not know the tool for Linux, search on forum and u will find it
Jelly powered.Defy
nastys said:
Try to restore your Nandroid backup. If it does not work use RSDLite on a clean OS and reinstall root access,2ndinit and CM10.
Sent from my MB526 using xda app-developers app
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I restored my backup from a ICS version, but then I kind-of bricked my phone so I had to flash the stock Eclair .sbf.
I was playing with my very dumb phone at work, now I'm home I'll try to update to the latest CM10. Fingers crossed!
EDIT: I flashed the 1018 nightly - this time the boot logo was a silver M instead of the google logo I've been used to. AAAAAND it's still giving me a black screen + red LED. I flashed the sbf, rooted, installed 2nd init, and then flashed the 1018 nightly, the update, gapps with some cache/dalvik wiping before and after the nightly-update-gapps flash
I'm trying again using the custom zip files to wipe everything instead of using the recovery menu. Also this time I'm using the minimal gapps instead of the 1011 version
AAAAND it didn't work. black screen + red LED. I'm really looking for help here. Should I have not flashed straight from the froyo-updated stock sbf to the latest jb nightly?
bulbouscorm said:
I restored my backup from a ICS version, but then I kind-of bricked my phone so I had to flash the stock Eclair .sbf.
I was playing with my very dumb phone at work, now I'm home I'll try to update to the latest CM10. Fingers crossed!
EDIT: I flashed the 1018 nightly - this time the boot logo was a silver M instead of the google logo I've been used to. AAAAAND it's still giving me a black screen + red LED. I flashed the sbf, rooted, installed 2nd init, and then flashed the 1018 nightly, the update, gapps with some cache/dalvik wiping before and after the nightly-update-gapps flash
I'm trying again using the custom zip files to wipe everything instead of using the recovery menu. Also this time I'm using the minimal gapps instead of the 1011 version
AAAAND it didn't work. black screen + red LED. I'm really looking for help here. Should I have not flashed straight from the froyo-updated stock sbf to the latest jb nightly?
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I was getting the black screen + red LED too, but manage to get it to work.
1: I flashed 0924
2: Then wiped everything
3: Flashed the 1018 build.
4: Tried botting - red LED + black screen
5: Booted to recovery
6: In boot options, reselected 2nd boot.
7: Tried to boot - red LED + black screen
8: Removed the battery
9: Waited 5 mins (could be more)
10: Placed the battery back
11: Tried to boot - Success.
Most of this steps are not needed, but it is what made my Defy boot with the 2ndboot builds.
bulbouscorm said:
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I had to flash the stock Eclair .sbf.
.....
EDIT: I flashed the 1018 nightly - this time the boot logo was a silver M instead of the google logo I've been used to.
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the silver m is eclair bootanimation
something defiantly goes wrong with ur phone. u should upgrade to a froyo ROM with bootloader version 6, there are a few user had problem with older bootloader to run second boot builds
Jelly powered.Defy
Yes, use BL6, latest CM10 2nd init rom and wipe data,cache,dalvik before installing, then use Stable Recovery to install zip from sdcard->18.10 ROM then install zip from sdcard->update v4 then install zip from sdcard->Gapps, reboot twice and it will work.
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EDIT: And remember to wipe everything before restoring a Nandroid backup.

[Q] Cannot install any CM7.X (result in a bricked Defy+)

Hi folks. I have a problem with CM7.X (tried update-cm-7.1.0-jordan-signed.zip and cm-7.2.0-jordan.zip) ona DEFY+ (MB526) with stock ROM (which means from the ROM from the local mobile telephony).
I cannot install any CM7 ROM. I result in a "bricked phone" forcing me to restore it according to this guide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki..._Bootloader_v7
I tried it 3 times with 2 ROMS: (2 times with update-cm-7.1.0-jordan-signed.zip and 1 time with cm-7.2.0-jordan.zip).
It results in a Bootloader error (Err:A5,70,00,00,23)
UPDATE: I try one more time with cm-7-20130301-NIGHTLY-jordan.zip (it is confuse that CM 7.2 is market as "stable" but there is new CM 7.2 market as "nightly". In this case the phone reboots to the M logo, I can get to the recovery mode but the phone frozes in the red motorola logo after it (forcing me to take the battery out).
I restored this phone again using the DFL_U3_4.5.2_51-50_SIGNED_USADEFYB15RETBRLA007.0R_STABLE45LADEFYRETBR_P018_A016_M001_HWp3_Service1FF.sbf.gz
But I still want to install the CM 7.2.
OLD: Now the phone is restored to the SBF DEFYPLUS_U3_4.5.1-134_DFP-231_CEE_ROOTED_No_Signed.rar
Andoird version 2.3.6
Kernel version
2.6.32.9-ge281b6e
[email protected] #1
Build number
4.5.1-134-DFP-231
I already checked the MD5 of the downloaded zip files.
I have another DEFY+ phone with CM10 working perfectly. I never got problems in the process. I can't understand why it always "brick" this another DEFY+ (mom's phone) when installing CM7. I get no erros on the installation process. I'm using the SndInitDefy_2.3.apk.
Yes, I wiped data/factory reset and wiped cache partition before I installed the zip.
What is missing?
Thanks in advance!
lucasfpaixao said:
Hi folks. I have a problem with CM7.X (tried update-cm-7.1.0-jordan-signed.zip and cm-7.2.0-jordan.zip) ona DEFY+ (MB526) with stock ROM (which means from the ROM from the local mobile telephony).
I cannot install any CM7 ROM. I result in a "bricked phone" forcing me to restore it according to this guide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki..._Bootloader_v7
I tried it 3 times with 2 ROMS: (2 times with update-cm-7.1.0-jordan-signed.zip and 1 time with cm-7.2.0-jordan.zip).
It results in a Bootloader error (Err:A5,70,00,00,23)
UPDATE: I try one more time with cm-7-20130301-NIGHTLY-jordan.zip (it is confuse that CM 7.2 is market as "stable" but there is new CM 7.2 market as "nightly". In this case the phone reboots to the M logo, I can get to the recovery mode but the phone frozes in the red motorola logo after it (forcing me to take the battery out).
I restored this phone again using the DFL_U3_4.5.2_51-50_SIGNED_USADEFYB15RETBRLA007.0R_STABLE45LADEFYRETBR_P018_A016_M001_HWp3_Service1FF.sbf.gz
But I still want to install the CM 7.2.
OLD: Now the phone is restored to the SBF DEFYPLUS_U3_4.5.1-134_DFP-231_CEE_ROOTED_No_Signed.rar
Andoird version 2.3.6
Kernel version
2.6.32.9-ge281b6e
[email protected] #1
Build number
4.5.1-134-DFP-231
I already checked the MD5 of the downloaded zip files.
I have another DEFY+ phone with CM10 working perfectly. I never got problems in the process. I can't understand why it always "brick" this another DEFY+ (mom's phone) when installing CM7. I get no erros on the installation process. I'm using the SndInitDefy_2.3.apk.
Yes, I wiped data/factory reset and wiped cache partition before I installed the zip.
What is missing?
Thanks in advance!
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I have the same problem! but with a Defy (green lense)
bufa said:
I have the same problem! but with a Defy (green lense)
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I just got the same problem yesterday. The bootloader screen came with with an error. I FLASHED AN SBF, AND THEN AFTER INSTALLING SNDINIT, I FORMATTED SYSTEM AND DATA TO EXT3 USING BOOTMENU. NOW CM7.2 RUNS FINE.
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lucasfpaixao said:
Hi folks. I have a problem with CM7.X (tried update-cm-7.1.0-jordan-signed.zip and cm-7.2.0-jordan.zip) ona DEFY+ (MB526) with stock ROM (which means from the ROM from the local mobile telephony).
I cannot install any CM7 ROM. I result in a "bricked phone" forcing me to restore it according to this guide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki..._Bootloader_v7
I tried it 3 times with 2 ROMS: (2 times with update-cm-7.1.0-jordan-signed.zip and 1 time with cm-7.2.0-jordan.zip).
It results in a Bootloader error (Err:A5,70,00,00,23)
UPDATE: I try one more time with cm-7-20130301-NIGHTLY-jordan.zip (it is confuse that CM 7.2 is market as "stable" but there is new CM 7.2 market as "nightly". In this case the phone reboots to the M logo, I can get to the recovery mode but the phone frozes in the red motorola logo after it (forcing me to take the battery out).
I restored this phone again using the DFL_U3_4.5.2_51-50_SIGNED_USADEFYB15RETBRLA007.0R_STABLE45LADEFYRETBR_P018_A016_M001_HWp3_Service1FF.sbf.gz
But I still want to install the CM 7.2.
OLD: Now the phone is restored to the SBF DEFYPLUS_U3_4.5.1-134_DFP-231_CEE_ROOTED_No_Signed.rar
Andoird version 2.3.6
Kernel version
2.6.32.9-ge281b6e
[email protected] #1
Build number
4.5.1-134-DFP-231
I already checked the MD5 of the downloaded zip files.
I have another DEFY+ phone with CM10 working perfectly. I never got problems in the process. I can't understand why it always "brick" this another DEFY+ (mom's phone) when installing CM7. I get no erros on the installation process. I'm using the SndInitDefy_2.3.apk.
Yes, I wiped data/factory reset and wiped cache partition before I installed the zip.
What is missing?
Thanks in advance!
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it sounds to me that it can be a problem with /tmp softlink - you need to remove the softlink and create /tmp as a new directory ( I can't post links yet, but if you search for "defy+ /tmp softlink" you get a nice guide as a first result) Hope that help!
workaround with partitions
hotdog125 said:
I just got the same problem yesterday. The bootloader screen came with with an error. I FLASHED AN SBF, AND THEN AFTER INSTALLING SNDINIT, I FORMATTED SYSTEM AND DATA TO EXT3 USING BOOTMENU. NOW CM7.2 RUNS FINE.
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Thanks for the tip. Maybe the problem was the file system. Yesterday I tried a lot of times with other CM7.X resulting in the same problems. I get bored and needed to solve as soon as possible this phone (that is my mom's). So I tried CM10. It worked without problems as worked in the very same phone (mine).
So I think hotdog125 is right but I haven't tested formatting the partition to ext3 yet. I searched on the web about CM7 partition support but I cannot find any secure information about it.
I will remain my mom's phone in CM10 by now. It's working well.
Does anyone know how a documentation about CyanogemMod versions and partition support?
To install CM7 u need SndInitDefy 1.4.2
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Hi folks. I have a problem with CM7.X (tried update-cm-7.1.0-jordan-signed.zip and cm-7.2.0-jordan.zip) ona DEFY+ (MB526) with stock ROM (which means from the ROM from the local mobile telephony).
I cannot install any CM7 ROM. I result in a "bricked phone" forcing me to restore it according to this guide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki..._Bootloader_v7
I tried it 3 times with 2 ROMS: (2 times with update-cm-7.1.0-jordan-signed.zip and 1 time with cm-7.2.0-jordan.zip).
It results in a Bootloader error (Err:A5,70,00,00,23)
UPDATE: I try one more time with cm-7-20130301-NIGHTLY-jordan.zip (it is confuse that CM 7.2 is market as "stable" but there is new CM 7.2 market as "nightly". In this case the phone reboots to the M logo, I can get to the recovery mode but the phone frozes in the red motorola logo after it (forcing me to take the battery out).
I restored this phone again using the DFL_U3_4.5.2_51-50_SIGNED_USADEFYB15RETBRLA007.0R_STABLE45LADEFYRETBR_P018_A016_M001_HWp3_Service1FF.sbf.gz
But I still want to install the CM 7.2.
OLD: Now the phone is restored to the SBF DEFYPLUS_U3_4.5.1-134_DFP-231_CEE_ROOTED_No_Signed.rar
Andoird version 2.3.6
Kernel version
2.6.32.9-ge281b6e
[email protected] #1
Build number
4.5.1-134-DFP-231
I already checked the MD5 of the downloaded zip files.
I have another DEFY+ phone with CM10 working perfectly. I never got problems in the process. I can't understand why it always "brick" this another DEFY+ (mom's phone) when installing CM7. I get no erros on the installation process. I'm using the SndInitDefy_2.3.apk.
Yes, I wiped data/factory reset and wiped cache partition before I installed the zip.
What is missing?
Thanks in advance!
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Your problem is that you ar using the SndInitDefy_2.3.apk that is for ICS and JB i had the same problem when i flashed my MB525 whit CM 7.2 By jordan i was lucky that i backed up my phone and was able to restore the stock rom whitout RSDLite. After i recoverd to stock rom i uninstalled SndInitDefy_2.3 and installed SndInitDefy 1.4.2 and i was able to flash CM 7.2 whit no problem hope this information help's you :good:
ionix2727 said:
Your problem is that you ar using the SndInitDefy_2.3.apk that is for ICS and JB i had the same problem when i flashed my MB525 whit CM 7.2 By jordan i was lucky that i backed up my phone and was able to restore the stock rom whitout RSDLite. After i recoverd to stock rom i uninstalled SndInitDefy_2.3 and installed SndInitDefy 1.4.2 and i was able to flash CM 7.2 whit no problem hope this information help's you :good:
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Thanks a lot for the answer. I think you are absolutely right.
As far as I know there is no information about bootloaders and CM 7/9/10 compatibility. Does anyone know some place about it? It should have a documentation to prevent problems like this.
Firstly, there's no link between boot loader version and cm7/9 compatibility. Your boot loader version may only influence your kernel version(froyo or gb), which is defy and defy+ build respectively, used for gb based roms.
Also, the notion that 2ndinit versions are incompatible with any rom is again wrong. In fact, you should always use the latest one(2.3 I believe). I have been using that version to install any rom from gb to jb over the stock rom
The OP should use the defy+ builds compatible with the gb kernel for cm7; I think the problem is that the defy build is based on the froyo kernel and when the kernel included in cm7 replaces the newer gb kernel(from the stock sbf), the boot loader error is triggered.
The reason why cm10 works perfectly is because of the custom kernel used in that build making the stock kernel version irrelevant to some extent.
And lastly, formatting to ext3 is required only when downgrading from jb builds
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Firstly, there's no link between boot loader version and cm7/9 compatibility. Your boot loader version may only influence your kernel version(froyo or gb), which is defy and defy+ build respectively, used for gb based roms.
Also, the notion that 2ndinit versions are incompatible with any rom is again wrong. In fact, you should always use the latest one(2.3 I believe). I have been using that version to install any rom from gb to jb over the stock rom
The OP should use the defy+ builds compatible with the gb kernel for cm7; I think the problem is that the defy build is based on the froyo kernel and when the kernel included in cm7 replaces the newer gb kernel(from the stock sbf), the boot loader error is triggered.
The reason why cm10 works perfectly is because of the custom kernel used in that build making the stock kernel version irrelevant to some extent.
And lastly, formatting to ext3 is required only when downgrading from jb builds
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thekguy, thank you for the explanations.
I've read something about kernel and ROM compatibility. But, as I remember, this is a problem for old Defy phones with green lens and not for Defy+ phones. So I never care about the kernel version and also the guides for installing custom ROMs never report compatibility of the kernel version for Defy+ users.
Where we can find trustable documentation about ROM and kernel compatibility?
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Firstly, there's no link between boot loader version and cm7/9 compatibility. Your boot loader version may only influence your kernel version(froyo or gb), which is defy and defy+ build respectively, used for gb based roms.
Also, the notion that 2ndinit versions are incompatible with any rom is again wrong. In fact, you should always use the latest one(2.3 I believe). I have been using that version to install any rom from gb to jb over the stock rom
The OP should use the defy+ builds compatible with the gb kernel for cm7; I think the problem is that the defy build is based on the froyo kernel and when the kernel included in cm7 replaces the newer gb kernel(from the stock sbf), the boot loader error is triggered.
The reason why cm10 works perfectly is because of the custom kernel used in that build making the stock kernel version irrelevant to some extent.
And lastly, formatting to ext3 is required only when downgrading from jb builds
Sent from my MB526 using Tapatalk 2
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Being on BL7 does not mean that one cannot use CM7, but it may mean that CM9/10 compatibility is hampered and does not guarantee that it will work. Is his mother's Defy+ also on DFP231? If not, then that may explain it...
And do not use MB525 CM7 builds on a Defy+, there's a different kernel. CM10 works because it uses 2ndboot, but CM7 relies on 2ndinit, therefore the GB kernel is of importance. You cannot downgrade from a GB kernel from a BL7 stock ROM to a froyo MB525 kernel.
Since defy and defy+ do not share a stock kernel by default(a defy+sbf can be installed on defy) this issue arises. You have to use the defy+ builds for gb roms and for newer roms there's no such problem
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Hi guys, I really need some help.
This Defy+ (MB256, my mom's phone) is wierd.
Remembering: The first thing I tried with this phone was flash CM7.1 but it fails. I needed to recover it from SBF, and it recovered without problems for two or three times while I was trying to flash CM7.
I finally gave up and tried CM10 and it worked! So I leave this phone with this system.
The problem is: this is a unstable version. The reboots and the broken reboots (that needs to wipe to factory reset and install every app again) was driving me nuts (and my mom too).
So I decided to install CM7.2 that is much, much, much more stable on it.
First, I install CM7.2 on my DEFY+ (i also have the same mb526). I downgrade it from CM11 successfully. Yes, I formatted the partition to ext3 before and it worked like a charm! And I see that CM7.2 is really much more stable on this device. So, I just wanted to make the same with my mom's phone.
And the problems started again. But now is worst!
First, after wipe and formatted the partition to ext3 and flashed CM7.2 without erros. So I tried to reboot BUT the Recovery bootloader advises me something like: "there is no operating system, are you sure you would like to continue?"
I simply did it. I get a blank screen. No Bootloader, no M logo, nothing.
And now I'm almost stucked trying to revive it. I already tried some SBF for DEFY+, anyone recovers that phone.
The exactly two I used before ( SBF DEFYPLUS_U3_4.5.1-134_DFP-231_CEE_ROOTED_No_Signed.rar and DFL_U3_4.5.2_51-50_SIGNED_USADEFYB15RETBRLA007.0R_STABLE45LADEFYRE TBR_P018_A016_M001_HWp3_Service1FF.sbf.gz) failed.
1- The first SBF DEFYPLUS_U3_4.5.1-134_DFP-231_CEE_ROOTED_No_Signed.rar get the phone stuck on a yellow triangle with a exclamation, NO RECOVERY MENU (when turn it on holding vol -).
2- The second simply boots to a blank screen. Anything. Nothing shows. I actually see the screen turning on (backlight) but not is printed on the screen.
EDIT: I forgott to say that with the last cited SBF I get to bootloader with this error: A5,69,35,00,27 after the phone boots with M logo when trying to boot it normally.
I can still use RSD Lite to flash SBF files. I tried some others:
DEFYPLUS_U3_4.5.1-134_DFP-231_CN_SIGN_UCADEFYEMARAB1B50AA009.0R_PDS03C_USAJRDNGIBRIRD15_P015_A030_Service1FF (2).sbf.gz gives me the same triangle with explamation.
I already tried to make a force reset according to this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rji_wEAxnVo
But it simply not shows the menu itens, the brightness of the screen changes (more and less) when I tap simultaneously on Vol + and Vol -. But any recovery menu option shows on the screen.
I'm stuck, and I'm almost hopeless. But I now there's something to do to recover it.
Please, could someone help me!!!?
lucasfpaixao said:
Hi guys, I really need some help.
This Defy+ (MB256, my mom's phone) is wierd.
Remembering: The first thing I tried with this phone was flash CM7.1 but it fails. I needed to recover it from SBF, and it recovered without problems for two or three times while I was trying to flash CM7.
I finally gave up and tried CM10 and it worked! So I leave this phone with this system.
The problem is: this is a unstable version. The reboots and the broken reboots (that needs to wipe to factory reset and install every app again) was driving me nuts (and my mom too).
So I decided to install CM7.2 that is much, much, much more stable on it.
First, I install CM7.2 on my DEFY+ (i also have the same mb526). I downgrade it from CM11 successfully. Yes, I formatted the partition to ext3 before and it worked like a charm! And I see that CM7.2 is really much more stable on this device. So, I just wanted to make the same with my mom's phone.
And the problems started again. But now is worst!
First, after wipe and formatted the partition to ext3 and flashed CM7.2 without erros. So I tried to reboot BUT the Recovery bootloader advises me something like: "there is no operating system, are you sure you would like to continue?"
I simply did it. I get a blank screen. No Bootloader, no M logo, nothing.
And now I'm almost stucked trying to revive it. I already tried some SBF for DEFY+, anyone recovers that phone.
The exactly two I used before ( SBF DEFYPLUS_U3_4.5.1-134_DFP-231_CEE_ROOTED_No_Signed.rar and DFL_U3_4.5.2_51-50_SIGNED_USADEFYB15RETBRLA007.0R_STABLE45LADEFYRE TBR_P018_A016_M001_HWp3_Service1FF.sbf.gz) failed.
1- The first SBF DEFYPLUS_U3_4.5.1-134_DFP-231_CEE_ROOTED_No_Signed.rar get the phone stuck on a yellow triangle with a exclamation, NO RECOVERY MENU (when turn it on holding vol -).
2- The second simply boots to a blank screen. Anything. Nothing shows. I actually see the screen turning on (backlight) but not is printed on the screen.
EDIT: I forgott to say that with the last cited SBF I get to bootloader with this error: A5,69,35,00,27 after the phone boots with M logo when trying to boot it normally.
I can still use RSD Lite to flash SBF files. I tried some others:
DEFYPLUS_U3_4.5.1-134_DFP-231_CN_SIGN_UCADEFYEMARAB1B50AA009.0R_PDS03C_USAJRDNGIBRIRD15_P015_A030_Service1FF (2).sbf.gz gives me the same triangle with explamation.
I already tried to make a force reset according to this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rji_wEAxnVo
But it simply not shows the menu itens, the brightness of the screen changes (more and less) when I tap simultaneously on Vol + and Vol -. But any recovery menu option shows on the screen.
I'm stuck, and I'm almost hopeless. But I now there's something to do to recover it.
Please, could someone help me!!!?
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Hi, the black screen is typical when the flashed stock ROM is wrong. You need to found the correct SBF. Your Mom's Defy is an MB526 right? We must be assume that have originally a bl6 sbf (gingerbread ROM 2.3.5). Beginning with a this Cain of ROM if don't work try with a bl7 ROM. Ever you need beginning from more down to highest.
Enviado desde mi MB526 mediante Tapatalk
Thank you!
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Hi, the black screen is typical when the flashed stock ROM is wrong. You need to found the correct SBF. Your Mom's Defy is an MB526 right? We must be assume that have originally a bl6 sbf (gingerbread ROM 2.3.5). Beginning with a this Cain of ROM if don't work try with a bl7 ROM. Ever you need beginning from more down to highest.
Enviado desde mi MB526 mediante Tapatalk
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Hi @Casteleugim. Thank you! Your advice was correct. I tried this ROM: http://www.mediafire.com/download/rsdmersgb0j4uyo/DEFYPLUS_U3_4.5.1-134DFP231.rar.gz
And the phone boots again with this wierd chinese ROM.
I said that this phone is wierd, so I think this wierd ROM solve it`s dependencies! :victory:
Thank you!

[Q] update CM7 to CM10 after messing up with wrong sbf

Hi everyone,
some time ago I flashed a wrong sbf to my Defy and thanks to the All-in-One Defy Beginner's guide
Zephyrot said:
Installed full Gingerbread SBF and can’t go back to another rom: (!) aha! We have a issue here!, latest Stock Gingerbread full SBFs comes with a Version 5 of the CG, meaning until not long ago you were pretty much screwed. But wait, there is hope! A one kind Éclair has been found in China Defys that comes with Version 5 CG!.
How to fix it:
Method 1:
Download this SBF and Flash it
Root your Phone
Download 2nd Init 1.4.2 and Install ClockworkMod Recovery
Download and install this Nandroid Backup << File is Back, thanks Ichibanme again!>>
Enter Recovery, Wipe Data/Cache
After wiping, turn off your phone
Turn it on and get immediately into Bootloader mode
Flash this Fixed SBF
Delete Data/Cache again and reboot.
**NOTE*: I just rephrased the original post since it can be a bit confusing, it is linked as source below.
**NOTE2**: If you are using a non-Chinese defy, DO NOT USE THE CAMERA FLASH while on the Chinese rom, it WILL kill your LED.
Source: ((Original post here))[
Method 2: (BIG thanks to Jebrew again for this one)
NOTE: You are going to need CM7 for this one. CM7 Stable version recommended.
Download this SBF and Flash it.
Root your phone.
Download 2nd Init 1.4.2 and Install ClockworkMod Recovery.
Reboot to CMW recovery, and wipe Data/Cache.
Install CM7 then install Google Apps.
Reboot an go into Stock Recovery (using the vol- button, not from Bootmenu).
Do a Data/Cache Wipe or you won't have any space when you're done.
Flash this Fixed SBF
Reboot into your nice new rom.
Do not Wipe Data anymore or you will have to start again.
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You WONT be able to install full SBFs of any Éclair or Froyo since these Androids have lower CG Versions.​
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I'm running CM7 again with a version 5 CG, if I got it right.
So far so good. But now I need to update my ROM to be able to update some apps that won't run on CM7.
So what's the best tactic for updating this messed up phone? Just flashing any CM10+ ROM (I tried several ones) didn't seem to work. I always got stucked at the red Motorola 'M'.
Any ideas?
Thanks a lot!
Cheers,
Martin
smashedup said:
I always got stucked at the red Motorola 'M'
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factory reset
Thanks for your reply.
Besides the fact that I can't go anywhere to do a factory reset as soon as I've updated to something like CM10, I do a lot of resets/wipes on my way to this state (see quoted guide above).
smashedup said:
Thanks for your reply.
Besides the fact that I can't go anywhere to do a factory reset as soon as I've updated to something like CM10, I do a lot of resets/wipes on my way to this state (see quoted guide above).
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Use Defy full wiper/AROMA wiper to wipe system, data and cache with EXT4. Then immediately flash CM10 and gapps.
hotdog125 said:
Use Defy full wiper/AROMA wiper to wipe system, data and cache with EXT4. Then immediately flash CM10 and gapps.
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Tried that, but now I always get a Status 7 error message when trying to install (no matter if I wipe with Aroma or in CWM). I found a lot of people with that same problem but no solution for me... I'm wondering why I did not have that status 7 thing before....
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Tried that, but now I always get a Status 7 error message when trying to install (no matter if I wipe with Aroma or in CWM). I found a lot of people with that same problem but no solution for me... I'm wondering why I did not have that status 7 thing before....
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For some users flashing DFP-231 helped.
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For some users flashing DFP-231 helped.
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Thanks for the hint!
But this is a Defy+ sbf and after flashing I might not be able to go back, or not?
From the thread [Q] defy bricked, not even JORDN_U3_97.21.51.sbf helps :
kirov1045 said:
what are the chances it will work? i'll scared i'll totally brick it. it's 100% not a defy+
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thekguy said:
Zero percent chance of bricking
Only problem is that there may be problems in the stock rom, which can be fixed by installing cm10 or cm10.1
By problem I mean no camera or battery not charging to the full level but again these can be fixed by upgrading to cm10 or 10.1
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If - for any reason - CM10+ does not work for me, I don't want to deal with these issues...
Or am I getting this wrong?
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Thanks for the hint!
But this is a Defy+ sbf and after flashing I might not be able to go back, or not?
From the thread [Q] defy bricked, not even JORDN_U3_97.21.51.sbf helps :
If - for any reason - CM10+ does not work for me, I don't want to deal with these issues...
Or am I getting this wrong?
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Well, it helped some people. You can't go back to 2.2 after flashing GB.
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hotdog125 said:
Well, it helped some people. You can't go back to 2.2 after flashing GB.
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Thanks for clarifying.
But I just decided to not mess around another time and will stick to my well running CM7.2 for this device. I found a workaround for my app-prob anyway.
Thanks again for help!

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