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Does anyone know who makes the default "Email" named client that ships with the Vibrant? Is that a Samsung app, Google app, or other? I ask because it seems to be *dog slow* doing even the simplest of things -- opening a message, refreshing, deleting, etc.. Has everyone else noticed this? Any fixes? In contrast, the built-in Gmail app is super-speedy.
On that note, is there a better Exchange-enabled client that I can install on this phone? Can the Android 2.1 client be ported to this phone? I need Exchange (mail, calendar, contacts) sync support. Also, I don't want to use Touchdown.
Thoughts?
Yip
I had exchange before I moved to google apps for business. Exchange push worked flawless.
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Touchdown.
Yep, I saw that you said you didn't want to use it.
Touchdown's still my recommendation.
I have no problems getting exchange email in a timely manner via the default client...
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It's not that I *can't* get my Exchange email -- the syncing appears to be working fine. The issue is the client itself: very slow and laggy. The Gmail client, by comparison, is fast and responsive.
Are others seeing the "Email" app slowness as well?
Lastly, does anyone know who makes the included Email app? Google? Samsung?
the default exchange client in the nexus had zero lag.
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It's not that I *can't* get my Exchange email -- the syncing appears to be working fine. The issue is the client itself: very slow and laggy.
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It also can't display HTML messages, doesn't highlight complicated URLs correctly (ones with & or = symbols), and has no copy & paste. At least, not from what I can tell.
Yogi
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Can we install the apk from the nexus on the vibrant?
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I have not had a problem with the default email program. It has been fast and syncs all my email that I want it to. I did increase the size of the mail since our work uses a jpeg as a sig.
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Can we install the apk from the nexus on the vibrant?
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I second this. Anyway to grab the Nexus One mail client and install onto the Vibrant?
Have you tried K-9 mail?
I hate the default email app. Tried touchdown but it is not great. I switched to Google apps for business and migrated from my exchange server and I'm much happier all around.
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I agree. I just moved my exchange to google apps for business too.
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Yes, Google Apps is a fine solution, and I'm using that for my *personal* email, but my work uses Exchange 2007.
Anyhow, I'm trying out K9 Mail and MailDroid, though I can't get either of them to connect just yet. I'll keep trying.
Otherwise, this really looks like a "wait until Froyo" situation, since the initial 2.1 solution didn't support Exchange calendar syncing. Version 2.2 should have what we need.
Hurry up and wait
K-9 is much better, although it randomly goes for long amounts of time without getting some email, even though I can get them on my computer.
If it's mission criticle to get your emails on time, it's not very reliable, unfortunately (neither is the stck client).
WHOA! Hold the phone (no pun intended)...
I was looking at the "stalling" issues threads, and came across this *FIX* (Method 1) that was pretty easy to do: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=727279
Assuming that you're rooted, just install Busybox and Terminal Emulator (from the Marketplace). Alternately, you can use ADB from your computer, though I've never been able to get this to work. I was able to complete these commands directly on my phone from the emulator and reboot.
Anyhow, after applying this change, the default mail app is ABSOLUTELY FLYING. I kid you not. Just as fast as the Gmail client, if not somewhat faster. Really amazing. To be honest, the entire phone is much, much faster all around -- not just this mail client.
The downside? Well... technically the "app data space" is limited after this update, but I was only using 28megs (of 130megs total). Not too concerned. On that note, they give you the command to check your app data space, if you're wondering.
So....I am absolutely good for now. Happy with the mail clients and their performance.
Awesome!
Thanks for your help, everyone.
Yip
The e-mail app in Android 2.2 is pretty great, I was running it on my G1 before I switched up to a Vibrant last week.
The e-mail clients from Google (before 2.2) were/are dismal, but I'm pretty sure they hired Marc Blanc, the guy who wrote the excellent ChatterMail client for the Palm Treo, who then went on to begin developing AndroidMail in 2009. I was a beta tester for AndroidMail, and in the middle of the beta he announced Google was soliciting his input about some sort of secret project. There was never another AndroidMail update after that, much to my dismay.
Then about eight months later I got my hands on the Froyo e-mail client in CyanogenMod6, and I had this nagging feeling I'd seen it somewhere before. Eventually I realized it looks like a super-polished version of what Marc was doing in ChatterMail and AndroidMail.
This is huge for me, because the problems in earlier Android e-mail apps were becoming a serious problem.
So my recommendation would be to sit tight, 2.2 is just around the corner...
For what it's worth, I don't see any slow down or lag with the Exchange client. It is just as responsive as the GMail client and everything else on the phone.
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For what it's worth, I don't see any slow down or lag with the Exchange client. It is just as responsive as the GMail client and everything else on the phone.
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Glad to hear it... but clearly I am *NOT ALONE* on this issue: there was some serious lag going on specifically with the default mail client. To the point that I really tried to avoid checking the email in that client at all, if I could avoid it. It was really, really slow....and the Gmail app was snappy & fast.
Anyhow, the "fix" I posted has totally resolved that issue, as well as speeding up a number of other apps/functions. Really amazing!
Out of curiosity, did you ever apply a "factory reset" that many folks seem to recommend? I never did.
Nope. No factory resets. No lag fixes. No GPS fixes. Only thing I have done is root and install Clockwork. Everything has been working great for me since day one. Guess I got lucky.
I debated if this belongs in Q&A or General, I think General, but mods please move it if I'm wrong.
I'm running the latest CM6 nightly. I have been flashing almost nightly (skipped few nights here and there) and this morning I decided to completely wipe my phone first before flashing latest + gapps.
I've gotten everything set back up and am noticing some different behavior with the stock E-Mail app. I have an Exchange Activesync connection for my work e-mail. I have server side rules set up on our exchange server that move specific e-mails to specific folders (completely outside of the inbox, but within my mailbox, obviously). Up until this morning, if mail came into one of these other folders, my phone did not notify me (this is partially why I have them set up this way, that and for organization purposes). After wiping and resetting things up, however, if a message comes in (never even hits my inbox) I get an alert for a new message. If I goto my email it's (obviously) not in my inbox, I can of course goto menu/folders and find the e-mail that triggered the alert in the appropriate sub folder.
I don't believe I'm overlooking any options to disable this, and am kind of curious why it suddenly decided to start behaving this way. I know some people have complained in the past that the email app doesn't work this way, myself however, preferred it the "broken" way.
FWIW, I already own Touchdown. I preferred it to the stock email app for the longest time, but once the stock app got the few options I was forced to use touchdown for, I switched back to stock. I know I could fix this issue by just using touchdown, but I'd rather just keep using the stock app if I can.
Anyone else seen this or have any suggestions?
Edit: nm, found the git commit responsible for this new behavior. Perhaps we will get an option to disable/configure this before cm6 is final.
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Edit: nm, found the git commit responsible for this new behavior. Perhaps we will get an option to disable/configure this before cm6 is final.
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I have been having a similar issue. How did you fix it?
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I have been having a similar issue. How did you fix it?
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I didn't. It's a new "feature" you could push email.apk from an earlier Rom (rc2 should do it) or wait and hope it becomes a customizable option. I'll proly end up pushing an older apk myself tomorrow.
Forgive me if this topic has been raised before -- I searched and didn't see anything.
I am seeing two issues with my Epic relating to e-mail I haven't seen raised.
1. Generic e-mail client doesn't sync reliably. It ran reliably for a day or two, but has stopped polling, and now the only way I can get the accounts in it to update is to go into the client and open them.
2. I cannot seem to get more than 2 gmail accounts added to the gmail client. I have three google accounts, and I had to set up my third one in the generic client after repeated attempts to add it to the gmail client resulted in server connection fails.
Anyone else seeing this? Is it possible I have a defective phone or something I did during the course of rooting (noobnl's one-click v 2.2.9) broke some functionality? Is it possible that the service responsible for the client's polling activity got broken?
Thanks in advance.
My email has been updating automatically fine. I've only had my Epic for a little over two weeks, though. I don't have multiple Gmail accounts so can't say. Also, I'm not rooted yet ( I've been waiting for the 2.2 upgrade). I'm not crazy about everything in the generic client but it does seem to work very well.
I thought I was having the same issue as OP, but I found that I guess I accidentally switched automatic updates off in the settings.
I have had my Epic since it launched and yes this has been an issue for me. I thought maybe I had something set wrong but I don't. I actually check my Yahoo acct through the browser now. It doesn't really bother me to much though so I deal with it. Facebook for Android is the same way usually too.
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This is a common issue if you search around.
I've given up on the stock email app and just use K9 mail. Works perfectly. Has a few more options than the stock app too, although like a lot of open-source apps, maybe too many. I still haven't gotten all the fonts to look the way I want. But it's functional and doesn't give me any problems with syncing. An email app that won't tell me when I have new email is useless to me, and the stock app would only do that for maybe a day unless I rebooted. K9 always notifies me of email immediately.
I'm having a problem of my own. I just tried to send an attachment in the stock email app but I get a FC when I hit attach. In the gmail app however it works, gives me the option of gallery or astro. Could the FC in the email app occuring because I uninstalled the myfiles app and it defaults to it?
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This is a common issue if you search around.
I've given up on the stock email app and just use K9 mail. Works perfectly. Has a few more options than the stock app too, although like a lot of open-source apps, maybe too many. I still haven't gotten all the fonts to look the way I want. But it's functional and doesn't give me any problems with syncing. An email app that won't tell me when I have new email is useless to me, and the stock app would only do that for maybe a day unless I rebooted. K9 always notifies me of email immediately.
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Exactly the same problem. Stock email client works for a while then just quits.
But anyway, thanks for the tip re K-9 mail. Just installed it and will give it a try. It is indeed considerably more complimicated and will probably take some fiddling to get everything the way I want it, but that's OK -- I guess if I wanted simple but uncofigurable functionality I'd have a feature phone or an iPhone.
Seems like the FB app does the same thing. Anyone have a suggestion for a good 3d-party FB client?
Oh, and does anyone else have more than 2 accounts in gmail?
reboot will fix it for a short period
same problem here... worked for two weeks and now only syncs if manually. Rebooting the phone gets it going again... for a few more days and then it will no longer sync again!
Does anybody tried to use TouchDown for Tablets in the XOOM ?, does it work OK ?, thanks
http://www.nitrodesk.com/bigscreen.aspx
Best email program out there if you use Exchange. Nothing even comes close. This email program was the nail in my iPad's coffin.
Its pretty good. Way better than the native email app for exchange.
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I use it everyday. Works great.
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I have both RoadSync and Touchdown, and Touchdown is the best, hands down. It looks good and offers better end user configuration such as the ability to delete or not delete a message from the server when deleted on the device AND the option of not marking.the message as read on the server. I have it installed on my Xoom and Incredible. RoadSync is just a little rough around the edges, but it did work on my Xoom as well.
I uninstalled it. Too many crashes while composing and does not support drafts folder. Support said they are working hard to improve stability on Xoom and they were the ones to tell me it doesn't support the drafts folder - when you save message as draft, nothing shows up in drafts folder, although you can get to it with the drafts button displayed when you are composing a new message.
it actully works really well!
While I prefer the looks of the default exchange client it doesn't come close to the functionality of TouchDown. I highly recommend it!
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Tried it...then uninstalled
I have three Exchange accounts, each of which requires a separate Touchdown profile because Touchdown does not support multiple Exchange accounts within a single profile. Accounts in the off-line profiles are not updated. Further, switching between profiles often causes the application to crash.
Customer support is great!
My biggest disappointment was that I cannot see the folder structure of my exchange account. I contacted support and they were very responsive. If anyone is interested here's what I wrote and the reply:
ME:
Dear support,
I downloaded the trial version of TouchDown upon recommendation in a forum. So far I am not really that impressed with the offered features. I was wondering if that is just a matter of updates until this will change:
1. On the main screen it reads "Emails: x (n unread) and
Appointment(s): y. Why can't I get to the emails/calendar when I tap on the summary info?
2. I haven't found a way to browse my exchange folders. I am sure that's a mistake on my behalf but it shouldn't be that hard to figure out!
3. Is there a way to (de)select all emails and delete/move them instead of clicking one after the other?
I understand that this is a new product for tablets but if I were to spend $20 on it I would like to see more features.
Thanks for listening!
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Are you working on a Xoom? Are you saying that you see the email list but when you select and email it doesn't open? Or that you can't get to the Inbox?
You can choose what folders on Exchange to sync by going to settings>advanced>choose folders. Select what email folders you want to sync there. We are not a browser. We sync mail and you read it, forward etc...
There is a menu>more>select all function in the Inbox. You can then choose to delete or move.
Bottom line is that many features seem to be there but might be hidden and not intuitive. Don't think I'll pay $20 since I am fairly happy with the stock client.
The one thing I hate about touchdown is that he hasn't updated the UI since the days of Windows Mobile. It's just plain bad sometimes.
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The one thing I hate about touchdown is that he hasn't updated the UI since the days of Windows Mobile. It's just plain bad sometimes.
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Agreed. The UI is painfully out-of-date. I banished it from my Xoom until they freshen up the design and usability.
I used Touchdown for a long time and it has by far has the most options. Tons O options. It was first to give you emails displayed as HTML instead of just text. The UI does need some refinement especially if using on a tablet (yes I know they have a tablet version now) and it is a hare buggy sometimes.
Since the Xoom I went back to just the stock email app. As it's faster/simpler than Touchdown and prettier. I don't like the fact that you can't tell the stock one to sync more than 30 days worth of emails though. (I have a couple saved folders, that I want it to sync all the saved emails in them). Plus the Stock calendar on the Xoom is much prettier than touchdowns calendar.
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I'm using Touchdown and it works very well. It syncs my email, schedule and contacts. This is one of the apps that convinced me to keep the device.
Another touchdown user here, I'll agree with everyone else in that it's far more functional than the stock exchange client. I can deal with the UI because I go a free license from Moto.
Functional but in serious need of a facelift. Maybe one of our themers from XDA could take on the task.
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I've been using Touchdown since I moved to Android. It has its quirks, but I could never use the stock client since it doesn't support push to folders under the inbox. You have to manually sync those folders.
Coming from BlackBerry, it was the closest I could find to their email functionality (I still miss the email experience from my old 8830). They update pretty often. Buy the license from the market, but download the beta off the website. Just Google "Touchdown beta"
I love it, so far it has made the whole tab smoother. The task manager is sweet as well as the new Widgets. I really like that it made my transitions from screen to screen smooth. Overall I think this update is awesome. AND we get a movies section under the market now.
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I would have to agree. The TouchWiz on the phones was atrocious, and I was really worried when I heard about it coming to the tablet. After installing the update, I am very impressed. I like the new Widgets, the Email app while doesn't look as nice, runs very well and supports newer ActiveSync which helps me atm. The Screenshot button is amazing, and overall it just runs really really well.
I am impressed Samsung.
Sadly they haven't fixed email when connected to Exchange Server. When replying to an email it gets stuck in the outbox.
I have never had that problem, and just replied to an email on my exchange server. It might be the exchange server you are connecting to is misconfigured.
Ok, I found an issue, the size of the Text on their new custom widgets is huge, with no way to resize....
Definitely smoother, typing less laggy, browser faster. I like it
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Huh, can even change the system fonts via Settings / Screen / Screen Display / Font Style with some options and a way to get more online in the market. I know it's no big deal but that kinda tweaking without hacking is a nice add.
I am liking the TW update so far, more so now that my corp VPN access should be good to go once IT approves access from tabs. The Cisco Anyconnect has all it needs now.
Although I lost the unlocked boot I am v e r y happy with the update. Movies are there too. Some people complained there were no movies. Still I prefer Netflix. I am outside of US now and using vpn. Media hub works OK, but music hub insists that it will not work here??
I must be missing something. I got the update and noticed the same amount of hitching while swiping through home screens. I did a factory default reset and its still the same, weird. Everyone is talking about it being smooth now but I'm not seeing it, and I don't want to go back to Wallpaper Wizardrii and disable wallpaper scrolling to fix it again. What am I missing? I even took most of the widgets off the home screens and its still hitching quite a noticeable amount.
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I must be missing something. I got the update and noticed the same amount of hitching while swiping through home screens. I did a factory default reset and its still the same, weird. Everyone is talking about it being smooth now but I'm not seeing it, and I don't want to go back to Wallpaper Wizardrii and disable wallpaper scrolling to fix it again. What am I missing? I even took most of the widgets off the home screens and its still hitching quite a noticeable amount.
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are you using live wallpaper? I re-enabled it and noticed the lag again so, once again, disabled it.
I'm running the culkin rom...and it shows no update available..how do I get update?
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I have never had that problem, and just replied to an email on my exchange server. It might be the exchange server you are connecting to is misconfigured.
Ok, I found an issue, the size of the Text on their new custom widgets is huge, with no way to resize....
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Does "show pictures" actually work now with exchange? Is the issue fixed with exchange where if you type a word with an apostrophe and send the email the recipient sees garbled html code instead of the work you typed?
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Huh, can even change the system fonts via Settings / Screen / Screen Display / Font Style with some options and a way to get more online in the market. I know it's no big deal but that kinda tweaking without hacking is a nice add.
I am liking the TW update so far, more so now that my corp VPN access should be good to go once IT approves access from tabs. The Cisco Anyconnect has all it needs now.
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Does this tab have FlipFonts? I don't have it with me right now, but I'm so glad I found this post. The font is making me crazy.
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Does this tab have FlipFonts? I don't have it with me right now, but I'm so glad I found this post. The font is making me crazy.
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Yup, that's what it's looking for in the Market.
As far as I can tell they did not add certificate support for exchange. Makes the tab kind of useless in the corporate world. We dont allow anyone to get our coporate email on their mobile devices with out a certificate and remote wipe capabilities.
functionally I think the update is nice seems smoother. The font size increase on widgets is a little annoying especially on the email widget. the fonts seems large and blockish.
so far I would rate it an 85 out of 100.
Ya lag is for browser gone..on facebook and xda, places it used to be troublesome
but its still there on google plus desktop, oh well, must be a extensive site
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Huh, can even change the system fonts via Settings / Screen / Screen Display / Font Style with some options and a way to get more online in the market. I know it's no big deal but that kinda tweaking without hacking is a nice add.
I am liking the TW update so far, more so now that my corp VPN access should be good to go once IT approves access from tabs. The Cisco Anyconnect has all it needs now.
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Does anyone know of a way to change the system font size back to the standard size? (a flashable zip would be ideal, but if you know of a rom that allows this that would be ok too) Not liking the oversized fonts...thanks
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As far as I can tell they did not add certificate support for exchange. Makes the tab kind of useless in the corporate world. We dont allow anyone to get our coporate email on their mobile devices with out a certificate and remote wipe capabilities.
functionally I think the update is nice seems smoother. The font size increase on widgets is a little annoying especially on the email widget. the fonts seems large and blockish.
so far I would rate it an 85 out of 100.
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I still don't get where people are coming with this. I work in a corporate company with high security, and exchange with certificates and remote wipe.
All i did was setup a Corporate Account, there even checkboxes for accepting certificates. And when you set it up it even sets up remote wiping, a pin, everything.
Even applies a No Internet Sharing setup.
Also for those that asked earlier, the bug with replying to exchange emails with apostraphes has been Fixed. I just tried it out.
The new Samsung modified email thing doesn't have a "Show Picture" options, it just straight loads the picture in the message. But pictures in messages do work.
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I still don't get where people are coming with this. I work in a corporate company with high security, and exchange with certificates and remote wipe.
All i did was setup a Corporate Account, there even checkboxes for accepting certificates. And when you set it up it even sets up remote wiping, a pin, everything.
Even applies a No Internet Sharing setup.
Also for those that asked earlier, the bug with replying to exchange emails with apostraphes has been Fixed. I just tried it out.
The new Samsung modified email thing doesn't have a "Show Picture" options, it just straight loads the picture in the message. But pictures in messages do work.
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Awesome, glad to hear the issues have been resolved!
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I still don't get where people are coming with this. I work in a corporate company with high security, and exchange with certificates and remote wipe.
All i did was setup a Corporate Account, there even checkboxes for accepting certificates. And when you set it up it even sets up remote wiping, a pin, everything.
Even applies a No Internet Sharing setup.
Also for those that asked earlier, the bug with replying to exchange emails with apostraphes has been Fixed. I just tried it out.
The new Samsung modified email thing doesn't have a "Show Picture" options, it just straight loads the picture in the message. But pictures in messages do work.
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Sorry I should have been more specific. We require client certificates to be installed on mobile devices for users to have access to corporate email.
Stock android email doesnt support this as far as I can tell before or after touchwiz. Only app I have found that supports this is touchdown. I have not tried enhanced mail since they dont have a trial and secureEAS looks like it doesn't work on honeycomb.
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Sorry I should have been more specific. We require client certificates to be installed on mobile devices for users to have access to corporate email.
Stock android email doesnt support this as far as I can tell before or after touchwiz. Only app I have found that supports this is touchdown. I have not tried enhanced mail since they dont have a trial and secureEAS looks like it doesn't work on honeycomb.
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Oh, ok, that makes more sense. The only thing I can think of is allowing them to only use it through VPN?