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I have done some reading and finally decided I will be using the Casual method to root my S 4, but I am stock with not wanting to end up with the custom lock pad permanently, and I have seen many people have not been able to get rid of it.
So here is my question... After using Casual, what would be the way to get back to stock? This method installs custom recovery, so I am not sure how to go back if indeed to....
Can some one point me in the right direction?
Appreciated!
Before we move forward here, have you updated? As it stands the update released yesterday effectively blocks root and more then likely also blocks Loki. O and it blocks Odin so you can't downgrade. This is like first and foremost if you even wanna run casual now.
no update on my phone yet...
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2314494
post #1 is about rooting/flashing. post #2 addresses returning to stock, which literally is about as simple as flashing stock firmware via odin and factory resetting. cheers
Awesome.. I read that post but forgot completely about it.. most appreciated!
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genesiss said:
Awesome.. I read that post but forgot completely about it.. most appreciated!
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as Thermalwolf stated, your firmware version is important. make sure you dont have the latest MF3
No.. MDL still
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If you're still on MDL I recommend rooting now before your phone tries to force MF3 on you as it blocks root and possibly loki.
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If you're still on MDL I recommend rooting now before your phone tries to force MF3 on you as it blocks root and possibly loki.
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Yea, talk about making it just under the wire, your lucky you decided to root today and that your phone hadn't already updated.
I feel for those poor souls that updated, personally I think loki is patched and I remember sitting around for months and months while people tried and failed to unlock the rezound bootloader, locked bootloaders can be a b***h
Take care of your non MF3 Galaxy S4's everyone, they just became more valueable ...
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Yea, talk about making it just under the wire, your lucky you decided to root today and that your phone hadn't already updated.
I feel for those poor souls that updated, personally I think loki is patched and I remember sitting around for months and months while people tried and failed to unlock the rezound bootloader, locked bootloaders can be a b***h
Take care of your non MF3 Galaxy S4's everyone, they just became more valueable ...
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Right?! This guy could not have picked a better day too root. Also I'm damn sure Loki is patched, we can't Odin back to MDL so that should speak for itself.
OP, Root and block the OTA APKs immediately! If your phone starts downloading just rip the battery out lol
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Right?! This guy could not have picked a better day too root. Also I'm damn sure Loki is patched, we can't Odin back to MDL so that should speak for itself.
OP, Root and block the OTA APKs immediately! If your phone starts downloading just rip the battery out lol
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I just rooted last night. I keep postponing the update. I did some searching and found that I should rename wssyncmldm.apk and reboot to block the OTA update. Is this correct? Is there another file that should be renamed?
Thanks!
ok just did it.. had some issues with Windows drivers but it turns out MAC worked just fine.. i am currently doing nandroid back up..
thanks to all for replies..
ok everything works just fine.. now.. what would be my next step
. how can I avoid update? so far I am interested in staying stock. maybe remove some apps and add some.. but how can I assure I will not update?
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genesiss said:
ok everything works just fine.. now.. what would be my next step
. how can I avoid update? so far I am interested in staying stock. maybe remove some apps and add some.. but how can I assure I will not update?
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You need to read the existing threads. Go to the 'General" section read the stickies and then read the threads about the new OTA. ALL of your questions are answered in detail in those threads. Good luck.
Hopefully this works for me
I Bought my S4 yesterday and the sales rep at AT&T pressed the update button before handing it to me. I didn't think anything of it because as far as I knew android was designed to be open and easily rooted. Man was I mad when I got home. So today I went back and complained that the "phone was glitchy" and was handed another one. This time I told them not to touch it. Hand over the box and nobody gets hurt (keep in mind I paid full price for it too so i was extra mad). This one is on MDL. Now to root and block update. Hooray!
Anyone having issues with getting the ota MF3 update? I've tried updating my software on my phone but it says my software is up to date. I have set my clock forward several times but I still can't get it to update. Also, Samsung Kies (which is such a piece of crap) says my software is up to date even though I have mdl. Anyone had any issues with this and have a fix?
i'm assuming you either not rooted or are rooted and dont care about losing root?
if you're rooted and want to run MF3, iB4STiD has a loki'd MF3-based debloated rom here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2280556
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i'm assuming you either not rooted or are rooted and dont care about losing root?
if you're rooted and want to run MF3, iB4STiD has a loki'd MF3-based debloated rom here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2280556
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That is correct. I've had some issues with my wireless and this update is supposed to fix some wireless issues.
if you're rooted: i would research and try one of these MF3-based roms. any changes you may be looking for should also be contained in that rom. it will be rooted, hence allowing you to keep root as well as the option to revert to any other rom you may want to try later.
if you're not rooted and dont care about root: you'll have to wait until you receive the update. when that happens, kiss the possibility of root goodbye. you may not care about that if the wireless issue you have is resolved. however, if that issue is not resolved in the MF3 update, you cannot root and try another rom nor revert to a previous firmware version.
Are you wanting to root or flash custom roms?
Yep same here stock att s4. Of 4 phones two updated to mf3 and two didnt keep saying up to date. Not sure why...did att stop Rolling out the update?
Im happy with stock...not intention of rooting (though I have rooted my epic 4g in thw past). Using holo launcher to hide touchwiz. (I dont think it has to do w that)
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Are you wanting to root or flash custom roms?
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I have no intention of flashing custom roms but I would like to root in the near future. Fixing my wireless issues trumps rooting though so I have to wait for a new root to come out that's fine.
If you are on MDL, and you have no intentions of rooting right off the bat, and you want the MF3 update, make sure your status is set to official and manually move the date up 1 day, to force the update.
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If you are on MDL, and you have no intentions of rooting right off the bat, and you want the MF3 update, make sure your status is set to official and manually move the date up 1 day, to force the update.
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If you read his post he already did that. Att rolls it out in batches. I dont have it yet either
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If you read his post he already did that. Att rolls it out in batches. I dont have it yet either
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I know he did, do it again, it will hit, I did it that way on earlier updates.
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I know he did, do it again, it will hit, I did it that way on earlier updates.
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Oh ok well I have rolled it forward probably like 10 times haha. Maybe ill try rolling it a few months forward
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This message is confusing but I'm assuming they just haven't pushed it me yet.
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This message is confusing but I'm assuming they just haven't pushed it me yet.
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hehe its random, just every now and then, check, push date up ever so often. That message is they haven't pushed it yet, your right, you can bet they want you on it.
Be careful about advancing date yo far ahead....one u advance u have to keep advancing further and further (havent found a way to reset that date counter with stock)
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hehe its random, just every now and then, check, push date up ever so often. That message is they haven't pushed it yet, your right, you can bet they want you on it.
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I've tried pushing it forward several times but I still can't get it to update...
I don't understand why anyone on xda would want to get the update. You all should have just kept your Apple products.
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I don't understand why anyone on xda would want to get the update. You all should have just kept your Apple products.
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If you don't have anything constructive to say then please don't say anything. Like I said, I've had wireless issues that I'd like to get fixed. Yes, I could get the rooted version of the update but I've never flashed a new Rom and I have no desire to just so I can get the update.
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If you don't have anything constructive to say then please don't say anything. Like I said, I've had wireless issues that I'd like to get fixed. Yes, I could get the rooted version of the update but I've never flashed a new Rom and I have no desire to just so I can get the update.
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Then why are you here? Go to your carrier's forum.
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Then why are you here? Go to your carrier's forum.
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This forum is for the AT&T Galaxy S4 and I posted my issue in the AT&T Samsung Galaxy S4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting. I'm pretty sure my issue constitutes Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting. I posted here because (for the most part) people on Xda know what they are talking about and I wanted to see if anyone else had this issue and has a fix for it. You don't think I've looked around the AT&T forums? Once again, if you don't have anything constructive to say then don't say anything. I'm just trying to find a solution to a problem. Just because I choose not to root my device or flash a different ROM to it doesn't mean I don't have a right to post here. I may do so in the future, but right now I don't feel a need to.
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Anyone having issues with getting the ota MF3 update? I've tried updating my software on my phone but it says my software is up to date. I have set my clock forward several times but I still can't get it to update. Also, Samsung Kies (which is such a piece of crap) says my software is up to date even though I have mdl. Anyone had any issues with this and have a fix?
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My Son just got his update this morning on the I337 stock AT&T... FYI
Put your time to correct, trust me they will get you!
Hi,
I am kicking myself for accepting on OTA without checking XDA first. Only got my S4 yesterday.
Is there a thread/irc chat/etc, (on XDA or elsewhere) where any discussion is going on regarding custom recovery installation and bootloader unlock on MF3 OTA?
I just want to take a look.... not to bug anyone.
Check here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=40828975
gregk232 said:
Hi,
I am kicking myself for accepting on OTA without checking XDA first. Only got my S4 yesterday.
Is there a thread/irc chat/etc, (on XDA or elsewhere) where any discussion is going on regarding custom recovery installation and bootloader unlock on MF3 OTA?
I just want to take a look.... not to bug anyone.
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Look in the first couple of pages in the General section. There are a few threads about it, just look at the thread titles.
So I've searched around and found this post which seems to be fit my question. I recent brought a jflteatt and it was upgraded to MF3 (FML) Now I see that I can still root the phone but no custom recovery. I did some more searching and it appears I may be able to downgrade. Is this safe Will it downgrade the bootloader? From what I'm seeing it's using odin method so I would think it would downgrade everything. Please insight would be greatly appreciated!
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So I've searched around and found this post which seems to be fit my question. I recent brought a jflteatt and it was upgraded to MF3 (FML) Now I see that I can still root the phone but no custom recovery. I did some more searching and it appears I may be able to downgrade. Is this safe Will it downgrade the bootloader? From what I'm seeing it's using odin method so I would think it would downgrade everything. Please insight would be greatly appreciated!
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You cannot down grade. Doing so will Bork your recovery. There is an efuse that is blown when the phone is upgrade to mf3 in the internal circuitry.
You cannot downgrade from mf3.
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Damit!! wtf!
So I'm stuck with this MF3 BS. I just don't get why have bootloaders locked. Isn't it against the Android usage agreement?
zeyoner said:
Damit!! wtf!
So I'm stuck with this MF3 BS. I just don't get why have bootloaders locked. Isn't it against the Android usage agreement?
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Follow the work on safe strap. It's close to being a work around to be able to flash custom roms.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=45186518
jd1639 said:
Follow the work on safe strap. It's close to being a work around to be able to flash custom roms.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=45186518
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Sweet! :victory:
This safestrap is pretty interesting reminds me of the HTC HD2. You can even install multiple ROMs. This is great, it'll hold me down until maybe one day the bootloader is unlocked! I hate this bootloader locked BS. I had to deal with it when I had the HTC Aria. But it ended up being unlocked and S-Off.
Hi all! I just received an update message from AT&T to update the software of my phone. I am one of those people who is really paranoid and won't update unless I know it'll be beneficial and won't affect anything else at all. I am currently on version i337ucuamdl. I tried looking up the update and I'm not getting to much information. I don't even know what the version is on the update... Can anyone clarify or concur with me?
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If you ever want to put a custom recovery and rom on your phone don't take it.
There is plenty of information about the update in the "General" section if you are serious about learning what it is.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/search.php?searchid=213864485
Here's a search you use to see a lot of things about the MF3. I would recommend staying away from it, I had many problems with it myself with it.
So it turns out this post was made irrelevant because last night when I was asleep my phone updated itself without my permission. Now I have seen ways to Odin down to AMDL, but I think I'm gonna hold off just a wee bit longer. Lemme tell you though.. I'm pretty upset about the fact I didn't get the chance to approve or deny.
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So it turns out this post was made irrelevant because last night when I was asleep my phone updated itself without my permission. Now I have seen ways to Odin down to AMDL, but I think I'm gonna hold off just a wee bit longer. Lemme tell you though.. I'm pretty upset about the fact I didn't get the chance to approve or deny.
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Just so you know, you can not Odin back to mdl. If you try you'll at best soft brick your phone. Worst case, damage it so it won't be functional.
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Just so you know, you can not Odin back to mdl. If you try you'll at best soft brick your phone. Worst case, damage it so it won't be functional.
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So you are telling me I'm screwed at this point...
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So you are telling me I'm screwed at this point...
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Pretty much, yes.
You can root your phone, but you cannot change the ROM or the recovery anymore.
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So you are telling me I'm screwed at this point...
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People should be forced to read the "Beginner's Info Thread", which is stickied in the General forums, at least once before they're allowed to read anything else, IMO.
Right at the top is the method to block OTA updates from happening:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2301762
Once it's done, it's done. MF3 is a mofo. No possible way to downgrade, no way to install custom recovery or custom ROM. You can root...but no way to unroot...so not worth it for most people.
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People should be forced to read the "Beginner's Info Thread", which is stickied in the General forums, at least once before they're allowed to read anything else, IMO.
Right at the top is the method to block OTA updates from happening:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2301762
Once it's done, it's done. MF3 is a mofo. No possible way to downgrade, no way to install custom recovery or custom ROM. You can root...but no way to unroot...so not worth it for most people.
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Fuuuuuu..... Whelp maybe I should send in my phone and ask for a replacement ha
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Fuuuuuu..... Whelp maybe I should send in my phone and ask for a replacement ha
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You're not likely to get a replacement, at this point, that isn't already on MF3. Since the update has been out for over 6 weeks...chances have grown slim.
Personally, I'm planning on switching to the Note 3 in about a month...and this is actually a good situation for me as my non-MF3 S4 should fetch a bit of a premium on Ebay! You could go that route to get what you want I guess (sell yours on ebay and buy an MDL one).
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You're not likely to get a replacement, at this point, that isn't already on MF3. Since the update has been out for over 6 weeks...chances have grown slim.
Personally, I'm planning on switching to the Note 3 in about a month...and this is actually a good situation for me as my non-MF3 S4 should fetch a bit of a premium on Ebay! You could go that route to get what you want I guess (sell yours on ebay and buy an MDL one).
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And if the note 3 comes even worse in state of firmware than the s4?
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And if the note 3 comes even worse in state of firmware than the s4?
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Haha yeah that is definitely my big worry. Doubt I'll pull the trigger on that until I see an exploit published.
So it turns out that there is a method to root, but not safely from what it sounds like. Now I'm determined to dig into exploiting Android. This will be a new thing for me. So any tips on how one does this will be very helpful and I will be very grateful.
Thank you everyone who has replied to my thread.
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So it turns out that there is a method to root, but not safely from what it sounds like. Now I'm determined to dig into exploiting Android. This will be a new thing for me. So any tips on how one does this will be very helpful and I will be very grateful.
Thank you everyone who has replied to my thread.
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You can root it safely and there is a safe way to unroot it too. What you need to be careful with is what you do to it when it is rooted. Because there is no way to odin a stock firmware if you mess something up your stuck with it. (It appears that best buy now has the ability to flash the stock mf3 firmware so you have a little more room for error).
With root, most people want to remove bloatware. If you do, use titanium backup and freeze the apps, don't delete them. That way if you get over zealous you can just unfreeze them.
Good luck.
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You can root it safely and there is a safe way to unroot it too. What you need to be careful with is what you do to it when it is rooted. Because there is no way to odin a stock firmware if you mess something up your stuck with it. (It appears that best buy now has the ability to flash the stock mf3 firmware so you have a little more room for error).
With root, most people want to remove bloatware. If you do, use titanium backup and freeze the apps, don't delete them. That way if you get over zealous you can just unfreeze them.
Good luck.
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The thing is I want to have a custom recovery and go to town with ROMs and mods. As for the Best Buy thing, I am gonna have to check that out.
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The thing is I want to have a custom recovery and go to town with ROMs and mods. As for the Best Buy thing, I am gonna have to check that out.
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You never took the mf3 upgrade?
Edit, start here. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=42320391
Dnt update ull b bored
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Dnt update ull b bored
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Are you drunk?
Lmao no I tried to avoid the update and I woke up one morning with the update done all on its own. Kinda pissed me off really. But that aside again because I do have the update I can't have a custom recovery. That's what's bugging me.
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Hey guys....
So I had a bunch of trouble rooting my phone, finally got it done.
But now.. I have come to realize that I installed a ROM for a different phone..
I have a SGH-I337M and my phone now says under model number GT-I19505G..
Everything seems to be working fine right now.. question is. Is this a problem? Did I screw up? Did I get lucky in not bricking my phone and should be more careful next time?
Thanks in advance..
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Hey guys....
So I had a bunch of trouble rooting my phone, finally got it done.
But now.. I have come to realize that I installed a ROM for a different phone..
I have a SGH-I337M and my phone now says under model number GT-I19505G..
Everything seems to be working fine right now.. question is. Is this a problem? Did I screw up? Did I get lucky in not bricking my phone and should be more careful next time?
Thanks in advance..
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Instead of asking a bunch of questions (in the wrong forum) you need to read and learn about things before you do them. You can start by reading the "pinned" threads in the general and q & a sections. Good luck.
Yes you're being very lucky for not screwing your phone. From now on make sure that you flash the right room for your phone. Read the forum us much as you can
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Instead of asking a bunch of questions (in the wrong forum) you need to read and learn about things before you do them. You can start by reading the "pinned" threads in the general and q & a sections. Good luck.
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Lol your on point right there with all of those questions. Well he might have flashed a correct working ROM just doesn't know it because it says something else than what he's use to.
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Looks like you flashed an international rom. You might want to look into the galaxy s4 forums (not the att or canadian s4 forums) for more info on that rom and whether or not your gonna have issues
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It's my perception that he has a rogers Canadian phone which is our forum. If I remember correctly, the 1337m can be flashed with some international roms and still be fine. I don't think he has the google s4. So OP I'd advise you to check out the development threads regarding the Canadian s4, but I think you're fine because the unlocked Canadian phone can be flashed with some international roms.
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I just don't understand how so many ppl flash wrong Roms. This might sound harsh but if your flashing a wrong ROM then maybe this isn't for you or at least "read up". This is the reason I'm yet to flash a ROM on my gs4. I'm on MF3, I havent read up enough on using SS and the particular Roms my phone can use.
brought to you by my not so sexy GS4 MF3
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2295557
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