I have done some reading and finally decided I will be using the Casual method to root my S 4, but I am stock with not wanting to end up with the custom lock pad permanently, and I have seen many people have not been able to get rid of it.
So here is my question... After using Casual, what would be the way to get back to stock? This method installs custom recovery, so I am not sure how to go back if indeed to....
Can some one point me in the right direction?
Appreciated!
Before we move forward here, have you updated? As it stands the update released yesterday effectively blocks root and more then likely also blocks Loki. O and it blocks Odin so you can't downgrade. This is like first and foremost if you even wanna run casual now.
no update on my phone yet...
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2314494
post #1 is about rooting/flashing. post #2 addresses returning to stock, which literally is about as simple as flashing stock firmware via odin and factory resetting. cheers
Awesome.. I read that post but forgot completely about it.. most appreciated!
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genesiss said:
Awesome.. I read that post but forgot completely about it.. most appreciated!
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as Thermalwolf stated, your firmware version is important. make sure you dont have the latest MF3
No.. MDL still
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If you're still on MDL I recommend rooting now before your phone tries to force MF3 on you as it blocks root and possibly loki.
Thermalwolf said:
If you're still on MDL I recommend rooting now before your phone tries to force MF3 on you as it blocks root and possibly loki.
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Yea, talk about making it just under the wire, your lucky you decided to root today and that your phone hadn't already updated.
I feel for those poor souls that updated, personally I think loki is patched and I remember sitting around for months and months while people tried and failed to unlock the rezound bootloader, locked bootloaders can be a b***h
Take care of your non MF3 Galaxy S4's everyone, they just became more valueable ...
movielover76 said:
Yea, talk about making it just under the wire, your lucky you decided to root today and that your phone hadn't already updated.
I feel for those poor souls that updated, personally I think loki is patched and I remember sitting around for months and months while people tried and failed to unlock the rezound bootloader, locked bootloaders can be a b***h
Take care of your non MF3 Galaxy S4's everyone, they just became more valueable ...
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Right?! This guy could not have picked a better day too root. Also I'm damn sure Loki is patched, we can't Odin back to MDL so that should speak for itself.
OP, Root and block the OTA APKs immediately! If your phone starts downloading just rip the battery out lol
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Right?! This guy could not have picked a better day too root. Also I'm damn sure Loki is patched, we can't Odin back to MDL so that should speak for itself.
OP, Root and block the OTA APKs immediately! If your phone starts downloading just rip the battery out lol
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I just rooted last night. I keep postponing the update. I did some searching and found that I should rename wssyncmldm.apk and reboot to block the OTA update. Is this correct? Is there another file that should be renamed?
Thanks!
ok just did it.. had some issues with Windows drivers but it turns out MAC worked just fine.. i am currently doing nandroid back up..
thanks to all for replies..
ok everything works just fine.. now.. what would be my next step
. how can I avoid update? so far I am interested in staying stock. maybe remove some apps and add some.. but how can I assure I will not update?
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genesiss said:
ok everything works just fine.. now.. what would be my next step
. how can I avoid update? so far I am interested in staying stock. maybe remove some apps and add some.. but how can I assure I will not update?
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You need to read the existing threads. Go to the 'General" section read the stickies and then read the threads about the new OTA. ALL of your questions are answered in detail in those threads. Good luck.
Hopefully this works for me
I Bought my S4 yesterday and the sales rep at AT&T pressed the update button before handing it to me. I didn't think anything of it because as far as I knew android was designed to be open and easily rooted. Man was I mad when I got home. So today I went back and complained that the "phone was glitchy" and was handed another one. This time I told them not to touch it. Hand over the box and nobody gets hurt (keep in mind I paid full price for it too so i was extra mad). This one is on MDL. Now to root and block update. Hooray!
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okay guys, I tried to figure this out without bothering yall, but my newb knowledge is limited and I'm confused as hell. I was planning on rooting my phone today after reading about all the information I've been collecting from you guys, but now that I have updated my phone, will Toast's method using those files still allow me to root? Or do I need new files in order to root my phone? I see some files on developer page on new root but I'm confused if those are for phones already rooted or not...ahhhh
so I guess I'm asking is..if you have stock phone with new update applied, how do I go about rooting my evo?
We don't know yet. You should not have updated.
Quick and straight to the point, thanks for your reply. I guess I'm a motherfreakin idiot with the worst timing in the world for things like this. FML
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We don't know yet. You should not have updated.
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quick question; if i root with Toast's method, then install the rooted updated rom that's in the dev section (by Calkulin), that should be fine, right?
jblazea50 said:
quick question; if i root with Toast's method, then install the rooted updated rom that's in the dev section (by Calkulin), that should be fine, right?
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So in order to fully root and nand unlock stock evo with new update, all I have to do is follow Toast's step 1&2 then apply the new rooted update on developer site? just wanna get things crystal clear so I don't risk bricking my evo..
I don't know or think it has been confirmed to work with the new update yet.
Toast step 1 will root the phone
Toast step 2 will unlock nand
Installing the new rooted update will flash the stock sprint rom without breaking your root.
mizerab1e said:
So in order to fully root and nand unlock stock evo with new update, all I have to do is follow Toast's step 1&2 then apply the new rooted update on developer site? just wanna get things crystal clear so I don't risk bricking my evo..
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No. We don't even know if you can use Toast's method to root it. You can be the guinea pig and post results, though!
initial said:
yup.
Toast step 1 will root the phone
Toast step 2 will unlock nand
Installing the new rooted update will flash the stock sprint rom without breaking your root.
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There is some info going around in dev forum saying Toast's method will not work if you have the new OTA update applied on stock EVO saying you will get error messages and stuff although it will not brick your phone which is adding to more confusion..
has anyone successfully rooted their stock evo with new OTA update applied? or do I need to wait until devs come up with new files needed to root the evo?
mizerab1e said:
There is some info going around in dev forum saying Toast's method will not work if you have the new OTA update applied on stock EVO saying you will get error messages and stuff although it will not brick your phone which is adding to more confusion..
has anyone successfully rooted their stock evo with new OTA update applied? or do I need to wait until devs come up with new files needed to root the evo?
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All you have to do is place a file in the root of your SD card and reboot the phone. Try it out and post your results!
mizerab1e said:
Quick and straight to the point, thanks for your reply. I guess I'm a motherfreakin idiot with the worst timing in the world for things like this. FML
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You and me both my friend, you and me both. Sat there as the update came up and thought, I bet this is going to prevent me from rooting today ...
Yeah, ALL root is broken if you install the OTA.
Okay so I've been digging around and asking questions in dev forum, seems like there is no way for Stock EVO with OTA update to root their EVO yet. What bothers me is that I haven't seen a single post from a dev announcing that they are working on new root methods for Stock EVO with new OTA update.. they seem to be more concerned about fixing the issue around previously rooted EVOs, and I'm afraid we are getting left out... I hope this isn't the case, and hopefully one of our brilliant devs will give the new stock evo with OTA update owners some attention to this matter.
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Okay so I've been digging around and asking questions in dev forum, seems like there is no way for Stock EVO with OTA update to root their EVO yet. What bothers me is that I haven't seen a single post from a dev announcing that they are working on new root methods for Stock EVO with new OTA update.. they seem to be more concerned about fixing the issue around previously rooted EVOs, and I'm afraid we are getting left out... I hope this isn't the case, and hopefully one of our brilliant devs will give the new stock evo with OTA update owners some attention to this matter.
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They're busy working on the kernel. Everybody was warned not to accept the OTA and those of us that chose to do it have to lie in our beds until the developers get around to it.
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They're busy working on the kernel. Everybody was warned not to accept the OTA and those of us that chose to do it have to lie in our beds until the developers get around to it.
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Seems like that is the case, someone from dev forum suggested that downgrading the OTA to previous one then rooting might wield some fruit, If I can figure out how to do that I'll be more than happy to be a guinea pig for you guys.
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All you have to do is place a file in the root of your SD card and reboot the phone. Try it out and post your results!
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I'm not quite sure which file you're talking about, could you elaborate some more?
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Okay so I've been digging around and asking questions in dev forum, seems like there is no way for Stock EVO with OTA update to root their EVO yet. What bothers me is that I haven't seen a single post from a dev announcing that they are working on new root methods for Stock EVO with new OTA update.. they seem to be more concerned about fixing the issue around previously rooted EVOs, and I'm afraid we are getting left out... I hope this isn't the case, and hopefully one of our brilliant devs will give the new stock evo with OTA update owners some attention to this matter.
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They busted their asses to get root the first time, and, as of right now, every EVO that you buy is capable of being rooted. Only people who update without heeding the warnings are affected, so it is kind of hard to convince a dev to throw down all of their current work to go back and try to solve this AGAIN. It should be a general rule of thumb that you NEVER install manufacturer's updates on any piece of electronics that you are interested in hacking/modifying/changing in any way. 99% of the time they provide some kind of security fixes that are not announced.
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Seems like that is the case, someone from dev forum suggested that downgrading the OTA to previous one then rooting might wield some fruit, If I can figure out how to do that I'll be more than happy to be a guinea pig for you guys.
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It doesn't work. I've already tried it. The bootloader is locked.
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They busted their asses to get root the first time, and, as of right now, every EVO that you buy is capable of being rooted. Only people who update without heeding the warnings are affected, so it is kind of hard to convince a dev to throw down all of their current work to go back and try to solve this AGAIN. It should be a general rule of thumb that you NEVER install manufacturer's updates on any piece of electronics that you are interested in hacking/modifying/changing in any way. 99% of the time they provide some kind of security fixes that are not announced.
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I have no doubt in my mind the devs are doing everything they can to provide us with their brilliant work, I have no one but myself to blame for updating the OTA without heeding their warnings. I'm sure once the devs iron out all the issues with previously rooted system, they will get around to us as they always have. I just wish there was any way I can contribute to putting some light onto this matter for those who made the mistake of updating their OTA..
Yeah, was kicking myself as I knew it was a mistake.
Am willing to try out some ish too, that is if an extra Guinea is needed.
Ok so i know i am a newbie to this sort of thing but i wanted to wrap my head around everything and also specifically to my phone before i decide to do something and the results are permanent.
Firstly ill start off with saying im a Canadian Virgin Mobile customer and i just got the Galaxy S4 (SGH-i337m).
Ok so i want to root my device but i am confused about some of the basic concepts. I saw the tutorial video posted for my specific phone by the smoking android (link for those who havent seen it: youtube. com/watch?v=cI9r5dEcNo4) and i understand that the rooting process is fairly simple.
What i am confused about though is my options once i am a root user and if i ever chose to revert back to original. Lets say i went ahead and rooted my phone. Will i be able to software update through the updates that virgin sends me? also if i am able to then will i maintain root acess?
my second biggest question is lets say for whatever reason i want to go back to the way my phone is now, with the stock virgin firmware. is this possible? and with no trace of the root before (is this the same as achieving original status instead of a custom one)? i know that you can remove the root and then reset the binary counter but im not too sure how all of this works, its a lot to take in at once.
im just trying to clear things up and yes i am quite new to all this (got my s4 yesterday) but i am a quick learner and im just trying to get a grip on everything.
thanks in advance for bearing with me
shibby123 said:
Ok so i know i am a newbie to this sort of thing but i wanted to wrap my head around everything and also specifically to my phone before i decide to do something and the results are permanent.
Firstly ill start off with saying im a Canadian Virgin Mobile customer and i just got the Galaxy S4 (SGH-i337m).
Ok so i want to root my device but i am confused about some of the basic concepts. I saw the tutorial video posted for my specific phone by the smoking android (link for those who havent seen it: youtube. com/watch?v=cI9r5dEcNo4) and i understand that the rooting process is fairly simple.
What i am confused about though is my options once i am a root user and if i ever chose to revert back to original. Lets say i went ahead and rooted my phone. Will i be able to software update through the updates that virgin sends me? also if i am able to then will i maintain root acess?
my second biggest question is lets say for whatever reason i want to go back to the way my phone is now, with the stock virgin firmware. is this possible? and with no trace of the root before (is this the same as achieving original status instead of a custom one)? i know that you can remove the root and then reset the binary counter but im not too sure how all of this works, its a lot to take in at once.
im just trying to clear things up and yes i am quite new to all this (got my s4 yesterday) but i am a quick learner and im just trying to get a grip on everything.
thanks in advance for bearing with me
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Read these threads...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2301762
and
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2312444
Information that isn't in those threads are definitely linked to in those threads. Good luck.
scott14719 said:
Read these threads...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2301762
and
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2312444
Information that isn't in those threads are definitely linked to in those threads. Good luck.
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ok so i read the threads an i understand a lot more now. It seems to me like i have the ability to easily root and then go back to the stock firmware if i please with no consequences. i just have to flash the with the correct rom [and modem?] to put it back to stock and everything should work fine.
i hope i have this straight
shibby123 said:
ok so i read the threads an i understand a lot more now. It seems to me like i have the ability to easily root and then go back to the stock firmware if i please with no consequences. i just have to flash the with the correct rom [and modem?] to put it back to stock and everything should work fine.
i hope i have this straight
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Why modem? is that really necessary, I think you mean kernel.
if you flash back to stock, modem and kernel will be included.
Have you tried this thread also? you do have a i337m
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2269304
Good Luck
Is there a way to unroot my AT&T S4 with a Mac?
blbeesley said:
Is there a way to unroot my AT&T S4 with a Mac?
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flash the latest at&t official firmware via heimdall
TheAxman said:
Why modem? is that really necessary, I think you mean kernel.
if you flash back to stock, modem and kernel will be included.
Have you tried this thread also? you do have a i337m
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2269304
Good Luck
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so if i just flash to that stock firmware in the link you gave me everything will be back to normal? how would i achieve original and not "custom" status if i have to send the phone back to samsung. would i have to unroot then flash then reset the binary counter? would that be it and im back to the very original state i got my phone in?
shibby123 said:
so if i just flash to that stock firmware in the link you gave me everything will be back to normal? how would i achieve original and not "custom" status if i have to send the phone back to samsung. would i have to unroot then flash then reset the binary counter? would that be it and im back to the very original state i got my phone in?
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xBeerdroiDx said:
flash the latest at&t official firmware via heimdall
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Will heimdall use the zip downloaded from sammobile or do you have to extract the .tar.md5 from the zip?
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xBeerdroiDx said:
also check out this post
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your good sir, you got 2 thanks from me today...no more for you actually, I'm out of thanks, get you tomorrow.
Good help.
TheAxman said:
your good sir, you got 2 thanks from me today...no more for you actually, I'm out of thanks, get you tomorrow.
Good help.
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:highfive:
community
cheers, buddy
Hi,
I am kicking myself for accepting on OTA without checking XDA first. Only got my S4 yesterday.
Is there a thread/irc chat/etc, (on XDA or elsewhere) where any discussion is going on regarding custom recovery installation and bootloader unlock on MF3 OTA?
I just want to take a look.... not to bug anyone.
Check here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=40828975
gregk232 said:
Hi,
I am kicking myself for accepting on OTA without checking XDA first. Only got my S4 yesterday.
Is there a thread/irc chat/etc, (on XDA or elsewhere) where any discussion is going on regarding custom recovery installation and bootloader unlock on MF3 OTA?
I just want to take a look.... not to bug anyone.
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Look in the first couple of pages in the General section. There are a few threads about it, just look at the thread titles.
So I've searched around and found this post which seems to be fit my question. I recent brought a jflteatt and it was upgraded to MF3 (FML) Now I see that I can still root the phone but no custom recovery. I did some more searching and it appears I may be able to downgrade. Is this safe Will it downgrade the bootloader? From what I'm seeing it's using odin method so I would think it would downgrade everything. Please insight would be greatly appreciated!
zeyoner said:
So I've searched around and found this post which seems to be fit my question. I recent brought a jflteatt and it was upgraded to MF3 (FML) Now I see that I can still root the phone but no custom recovery. I did some more searching and it appears I may be able to downgrade. Is this safe Will it downgrade the bootloader? From what I'm seeing it's using odin method so I would think it would downgrade everything. Please insight would be greatly appreciated!
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You cannot down grade. Doing so will Bork your recovery. There is an efuse that is blown when the phone is upgrade to mf3 in the internal circuitry.
You cannot downgrade from mf3.
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Damit!! wtf!
So I'm stuck with this MF3 BS. I just don't get why have bootloaders locked. Isn't it against the Android usage agreement?
zeyoner said:
Damit!! wtf!
So I'm stuck with this MF3 BS. I just don't get why have bootloaders locked. Isn't it against the Android usage agreement?
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Follow the work on safe strap. It's close to being a work around to be able to flash custom roms.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=45186518
jd1639 said:
Follow the work on safe strap. It's close to being a work around to be able to flash custom roms.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=45186518
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Sweet! :victory:
This safestrap is pretty interesting reminds me of the HTC HD2. You can even install multiple ROMs. This is great, it'll hold me down until maybe one day the bootloader is unlocked! I hate this bootloader locked BS. I had to deal with it when I had the HTC Aria. But it ended up being unlocked and S-Off.
Hello!
I am new to this and I rooted my phone to 4.3. There is now an update for 4.4.2 and I want to update to it. I have tried uninstalling my root and apparently, I still can't update to 4.4.2. How do I completely uninstall the root so I can go to 4.4.2. I have even tried factory resetting my phone.
Thanks!
irokatcod4 said:
Hello!
I am new to this and I rooted my phone to 4.3. There is now an update for 4.4.2 and I want to update to it. I have tried uninstalling my root and apparently, I still can't update to 4.4.2. How do I completely uninstall the root so I can go to 4.4.2. I have even tried factory resetting my phone.
Thanks!
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If you rooted you shouldn't be new to this. Return to stock. See the general forum and look for the mk2 tar files.
Sent from my Nexus 5
jd1639 said:
If you rooted you shouldn't be new to this. Return to stock. See the general forum and look for the mk2 tar files.
Sent from my Nexus 5
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What do I do when I find the MK2 tar files? I used an easy way to root my phone and I don't know how to completely unroot it. How do I return to stock?
Search for how to return to stock using Odin
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jd1639 said:
If you rooted you shouldn't be new to this. Return to stock. See the general forum and look for the mk2 tar files.
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so obviously you're a very experienced user on this site. I just wanted to know what is the point of your comment? Do you think that the op will suddenly know what to do because you told him that he should know it?
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miamibeachlife said:
so obviously you're a very experienced user on this site. I just wanted to know what is the point of your comment? Do you think that the op will suddenly know what to do because you told him that he should know it?
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My Galaxy S4 was rooted and I got and installed Kit Kat 4.4.2 yesterday with No Problem. Some roots maybe different. I did not have CWM installed.
miamibeachlife said:
so obviously you're a very experienced user on this site. I just wanted to know what is the point of your comment? Do you think that the op will suddenly know what to do because you told him that he should know it?
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Here's the point:
You don't buy/get a high end phone and just take the quick way to doing everything. I have seen dozens and dozens of folks get into trouble that way. I spent a month just reviewing how to root my Nexus One before I even got it. That may have been overkill but was awaiting back surgery and wanted something to do while recuperating. You need to take the time to learn not only what to do, but why you are doing it. If not, you guys see the consequences. XDA asks that you search before asking questions and this one has been addressed numerous times. By the question itself, you know whether the OP made any attempt at all to look for answers or just wants spoon fed.
That said, we all feel bad when someone messes up their phone and if asked properly they will get help. Just reminded that they need to research some before asking or jumping into something. I know it is water under the bridge at this time, just FYI--
Do hope you all get it sorted. Also, it can get confusing when others hijack the OP's thread. I see that a lot too. Makes it hard to follow and give correct answers to the OP.
BTW, if you unroot and update, you are not re-rooting at this time--
Good Luck on it--:good:
Nothing meant personal here, just trying to get some advice out that can take time to get on your own--
Hello, I was wondering for those who kept root going from 4.1.2 to kitkat 4.4, how did you do it? My phone is currently locked but rooted and I just downloaded the OTA kit kat update but haven't installed it yet. Any ideas would be greatly appreciated!
No current method so don't upgrade if root is essential. Only unlocked bootloaders can get root back.
Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk
We haven't seen anybody maintain root on a locked device across the OTA yet.
RikRong said:
We haven't seen anybody maintain root on a locked device across the OTA yet.
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what about on a device that is unlocked?
voodoo?
On an unlocked device you can just flash SuperSU in recovery...
And Voodoo won't work with a KitKat OTA.
how do you flash if root was lost when updated..im unlocked and had twrp but heard that is no longer working..and what is stranger is that developers option in settings s not there
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davekaz said:
how do you flash if root was lost when updated..im unlocked and had twrp but heard that is no longer working..and what is stranger is that developers option in settings s not there
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First off, in regards to TWRP, there is a newer version of CWM recovery that works with KK. Use that.
Second, the developer options have been hidden, but you have to pay me to get the info.
JUST KIDDING!
Here is what you do:
Go to settings.
Click on "About Phone"
Scroll down and then start mashing on "Build Number". It will inform you that you have so many presses before going to developer mode.
After that, it will give you a toast saying developer mode has been activated. You're done!
If someone could kindly put together a walk thru on
How to go from stock, rooted, and unlocked to kit Kat w/root
That would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks!
I am in the same boat, rooted on stock ROM. I don't want to lose root, but my phone keep popping up the update installer request. My phone has kept me so happy for so long that I have not kept up with the forums. I just haven't had any problems, and I'd like to keep it that way. So, is there no root for 4.2.2 yet? Or there just isn't a way to preserve it across the OTA? Should I go back to stock unrooted, update and re-root? I've been reading around the forums and I am just not seeing a whole lot of info about this yet.
gadsden said:
I am in the same boat, rooted on stock ROM. I don't want to lose root, but my phone keep popping up the update installer request. My phone has kept me so happy for so long that I have not kept up with the forums. I just haven't had any problems, and I'd like to keep it that way. So, is there no root for 4.2.2 yet? Or there just isn't a way to preserve it across the OTA? Should I go back to stock unrooted, update and re-root? I've been reading around the forums and I am just not seeing a whole lot of info about this yet.
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this has been discussed many times.
if you have a LOCKED phone, there is NO way to have or preserve root going to KK
if you have a UNLOCKED phone, update to KK, flash the KK cwm, flash su zip in cwm, profit!
those are the only 2 options PERIOD.
bweN diorD said:
this has been discussed many times.
if you have a LOCKED phone, there is NO way to have or preserve root going to KK
if you have a UNLOCKED phone, update to KK, flash the KK cwm, flash su zip in cwm, profit!
those are the only 2 options PERIOD.
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Ok, well, I am not unlocked. So is there a way to stop the OTA?
gadsden said:
Ok, well, I am not unlocked. So is there a way to stop the OTA?
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you can freeze the updater. i dont recall the exact file name(s).
someone else can jump in, or you could google it.
bweN diorD said:
you can freeze the updater. i dont recall the exact file name(s).
someone else can jump in, or you could google it.
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You are correct, just freeze the updater.apk. Well, it's worked for me anyway.
RikRong said:
You are correct, just freeze the updater.apk. Well, it's worked for me anyway.
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Some people say it's better to rename System > etc>security > otacerts.zip. Equal amount of people say to freeze updater. I'll follow you and freeze updater for now.
I'm itching to update to KK, and I can almost part with a rooted phone since I am running stock ROM anyway. But life without Titanium Backup just doesn't seem like a life at all.
Thanks again for the tips.
Speaking of freezing the update app, I have been doing that since before the last update so I'm currently running 4.1.2 9.16.6.XT926 does anyone know if it will cause me any trouble skipping an OTA?
Thanks.
sheep348 said:
Speaking of freezing the update app, I have been doing that since before the last update so I'm currently running 4.1.2 9.16.6.XT926 does anyone know if it will cause me any trouble skipping an OTA?
Thanks.
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you should unlock the bootloader first if you havent already. after you update you will no longer be able to ever.
as for the update, if you flash it with rsd there shouldnt be any issue that im aware of. if you unfreeze the updater and take the actual ota(s), it will not skip any, it will pull the next in line each time until you get to the most current.
however, you will still need to use rsd before taking or sideloading the KK ota or root will cause it to fail.
bweN diorD said:
you should unlock the bootloader first if you havent already. after you update you will no longer be able to ever.
as for the update, if you flash it with rsd there shouldnt be any issue that im aware of. if you unfreeze the updater and take the actual ota(s), it will not skip any, it will pull the next in line each time until you get to the most current.
however, you will still need to use rsd before taking or sideloading the KK ota or root will cause it to fail.
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Thanks for the help but I don't have a lot of knowledge about rooting. If I don't care about keeping root can I just take the OTAs or are you saying they will they fail if I don't first unlock the boot loader?
"after you update you will no longer be able to ever" What will I not be able to update again? The bootloader?
Thanks.
sheep348 said:
Thanks for the help but I don't have a lot of knowledge about rooting. If I don't care about keeping root can I just take the OTAs or are you saying they will they fail if I don't first unlock the boot loader?
Thanks.
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He's saying you could probably find someone who would be willing to pay you handsomely to trade phones.
Once you update your phone, the bootloader can't be unlocked....as far as we know, ever again. If you don't care, which it sounds like you don't, go ahead and update your phone.
sheep348 said:
Thanks for the help but I don't have a lot of knowledge about rooting. If I don't care about keeping root can I just take the OTAs or are you saying they will they fail if I don't first unlock the boot loader?
Thanks.
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most people who dont unlock the bootloader when they had the chance regret not doing it. its not a problem if you dont want to, i was just giving you a heads up more or less.
as for the updates,(this has nothing to do with the bootloader) im pretty sure the first 2 will install fine but im positive the 3rd, KK, will fail because you had root before.
so if you want to go to KK, you really have no other option but to use rsd first to return your phone to stock.
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He's saying you could probably find someone who would be willing to pay you handsomely to trade phones.
Once you update your phone, the bootloader can't be unlocked....as far as we know, ever again. If you don't care, which it sounds like you don't, go ahead and update your phone.
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Thanks bweN diorD and gadsden,
I appreciate the help. I only use my root access for killing music apps and I have some bloatware frozen. So personally I think I'll go ahead and update to KK since the benefits should outweigh the loss of root access for me. Should I do a factory reset first or should I be good to go taking the OTA?
Thanks again I'm always hesitant to do things to my phone because I don't have the knowledge to fix it or the money to replace it.
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bweN diorD said:
most people who dont unlock the bootloader when they had the chance regret not doing it. its not a problem if you dont want to, i was just giving you a heads up more or less.
as for the updates,(this has nothing to do with the bootloader) im pretty sure the first 2 will install fine but im positive the 3rd, KK, will fail because you had root before.
so if you want to go to KK, you really have no other option but to use rsd first to return your phone to stock.
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Again thanks, I guess I'll have to look into finding out how to use rsd and go back to stock.