So about 2 months ago I rooted my phone. I followed the method here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=928160
Everything was ok, until my super user permissions program stopped working. The program opened but its a solid black screen and I cannot give any new program SU permission. At first the programs that already had permission could still have SU permission, but, in an attempt to fix the issue I cleared the program cache and those programs lost their SU permission(like TT and terminal).
Their is a new SU permissions program on the market that I paid for from the same company but I assume because the old one is still installed that it is not showing up for that reason and cannot be opened.
I cannot figure out how to get rid of the original Superuser Permissions program. I have tried every program I could find by surfing forums, I have factory reset the phone... but that SU permissiosn program is still there upon a clean factory reset!
I have the ADB installed on my PC, but when I try to run a remount I get an error that I am not allowed to do that. After my factory reset I tried running back through the walkthrough I listed. Visionary says its temp rooted, but in terminal the SU command says "access denied." I think this all has to do with that bad SU program being in stalled and if I can get that off and install the replacement one I paid for, then the SU could grant access to terminal and I could re-root the phone.
My theory is only speculation. Can anyone tell me how to remove this SU program. Its located in directories that are read only and all the commands I have found to remove it so far have required a rooted terminal command, or ADB remount commands that I cannot use. Please help. Thanks
Couple of things to try. First can you boot into recovery? What Rom are you using if any? Since you already did a factory reset I assume you don't have any data you want to save so I would just reflash a Rom from recovery. I don't remember off the top of my head but I think you hold vol - plus power when booting to get to recovery? Or if your current Rom has the permissions still to boot to recovery from the power menu?
Another thing to try is the "rage" method to gain root. I know there are issues with using visionary after you already have root. So give rage a search and try that. Come to think of it you might just try the rage method first. Let me know how its goin I might be able to help more
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shortlived said:
First can you boot into recovery?
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A: Not sure I will try.
shortlived said:
What Rom are you using if any?
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A: Stock that came on the phone
shortlived said:
I don't remember off the top of my head but I think you hold vol - plus power when booting to get to recovery? Or if your current Rom has the permissions still to boot to recovery from the power menu?
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A: Again, I will try, but nothing has SU permissions anymore.
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Another thing to try is the "rage" method to gain root.
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A: I will try this too. I will look on our forum, but since you are familiar with the process maybe you can provide me with a link to make things easier? Would you happen to have a link to the rage method for the G2?
Thanks for the reply!!
Nothing has worked. The original superuser permissions is still installed. I get errors when trying to push files to those read only directories even though ADB.
Any ideas on how I can get everything back to factory settings?
What do you mean "a new SU permissions program that I paid for"?
There's only one SU program that I know of. The only paid one that I know of is just a license file for an upcoming, yet to be released, program. You'll need to be specific in order for this to get resolved but it sounds like you may need to reinstall the SU binaries and the SU program.
To uninstall the current one you just need to go to applications>manage, click on the program and then click uninstall. Then use ROM manager to download and install SU for you.
Thanks for the reply but I am way past that. The OS will not let me uninstall the current SU program. The "paid" SU program is a separate program because it asked me to install the file rather than "update" like the free one says when I open it from the market.
I am very specific in my original post.
Somehow the SU program stopped working. New programs that require SU access were not givign the pop up that allowed me to grant SU access. When I open SU its just a black screen with no options. I cleared the cache to try to fix and this removed SU permissions from all the programs that I had already granted SU permissions to(like terminal). I cannot uninstall the program from the built in manager or any of the several file managers I have tried. I also cannot overwrite the current file by "updating" the existing installed version. I paid the 1$ for the paid version because its a different program all together. My thought process was if android sees it as a separate program, it will install it as a separate program and I can use it independantly of the original non-functioning version. That did not work. It says its installed but the icon is no where to be found and I cannot run it, even from a file manager. The old SU icon(of a ninja) still stays in the program list even after I wiped the phone and dida factory reset.
The point is its going to take some advanced procedure to remove the SU program. Its in adirectory that is read only. It takes SU permissions to make that directory read/write and I cant get SU permissions, even temporarily with visionary or Z7. I have tried ADB and it also says permission denied.
So this is NOT resolved yet.
At this point:
-I have reset the phone several times, each time SUpermissions is still installed when the phone comes back up.
-USB debugging is enabled.
-I have googled possible solutions that all have not worked(using ADB failed, updating the SU program failed, clearing the cahce failed, disabling usb debugging then hooking to cpu and reenabling it and using adb to try and use SU command failed...etc
-using 3rd party apps to uninstall failed
-using other SU apps failed
A rough rundown of my problem is:
Phone is rooted. At some point when I opened a NEW app that would require SU access, the pop up generalted by SUpermissions stopped popping up allowing me to give access. Programs I had already granted SU access to would still work(like terminal and titanium backup). Per someones request I tried to clear the cache. When I did this all the programs that DID have SU access lost SU access and I still could not add new programs to the SU list. I have tried ADB commands, file managers, factor resetting the phone. Nothing works. The SUpermissions program is there when I factory reset the phone as if it is one of the preinstalled apps. Apps tell me that I DO have my phone rooted, but that I still need to allow it SU access. I have not been able to uninstall the SU program and if I could get that program updated/re-installed then I believe that I could get the root access back.
Any real suggestions?(not the "is usb debugging enabled" Tier I troubleshooting steps that I am WAY past)
Thank in advance
Kk do you have s-off and the eng-bootloader? Do you have a custom recovery?
If you have s-off and custome recovery you can back up your rom using nandroid, then do a wipe and install a freshly new rom
Also you can boot into clockwork and try to run fix permissons
If you don't have custome recovery (clock work) you will need to have eng-bootloader to do fastboot commands to flash recovery
Also have for adb make sure debuggin is on and boot into bootloader from there try to do adb commands there
If your able to do so and get access
You can go into adb shell and remount to rw then push a new SU.apk in and reboot and su should work as well
This if you don't remember commands
Adb shell
Su
#mount -o remount,rw /dev/block/mtdblock3 /system
#
Then exit out of shell then do adb push
Adb push (where ever su user location on pc) /system/app
I installed rom manager by clockworkmod, which I believe is the program you were refering too.
I tried to "fix permissions" and it failed there.
How would I reload the stock ROM?
If I backup the current ROM, and reload it, then it will reload it as it is with SUpermissions already installed.
Where can I find a copy of the stock rom that came on the G2?
BTW
I do have S-off, but I did not install the engineering hboot.
Let me know the best way to go about getting a stock rom put back on.
Do you have clockwork recovery, not rom manager, turn off phone hold vol dwn and power.. you should boot in custome recovery all letters should be orange,
If you have that good! Jus go to dev section and download a stock rom that is rooted put in sdcard and boot in cwm recovery go to back up and restore, do a back up after back up is down do a wip/factory reset, when down click install zip from sdcard, then choose zip from sdcard and look for rom that is in sdcard and flash that.. or you want you could also get cyanogenrom too but also get gapps too
You never answered if you could get to recovery. If you really have soff then your fine. So when your phone boots it says s off correct? And what happens with you hold vol down while booting? Even if you dont have clockwork recovery you can still install the original rom which you can find in the forums.
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when chick the superuser ,it always display "force close"
but other app can be supported to get root permission by superuser.
but ,
when i get the superuser update in the google market,nightmare coming.
well ,i have the same issue like yours.
i try to fix ti anywhere ,but i flash other rom to replace.
do you have the solution?
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You never answered if you could get to recovery. If you really have soff then your fine. So when your phone boots it says s off correct? And what happens with you hold vol down while booting? Even if you dont have clockwork recovery you can still install the original rom which you can find in the forums.
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I assume that its s-off. The link that I posted the the root method that I used said that it would root with S-off. The only thing I did not do is install the eng hboot. I assume that the root is done with S-off.
I have not had time to sit and try this yet. I will try soon and get back with my results.
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Do you have clockwork recovery, not rom manager
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I know at one point I had it, but as I said I factory reset my phone. I want to make sure that I install the correct app, so who manufacturers clockwork?
If you had the cwm recovery b4 and all you did was a factory reset then you should still have it, only time you lose recovery if you update to official rom or you flashed another recovery, clockwork recovery is made my koush, and rom manager is also made by koush
derricks2 said:
So about 2 months ago I rooted my phone. I followed the method here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=928160
Everything was ok, until my super user permissions program stopped working. The program opened but its a solid black screen and I cannot give any new program SU permission. At first the programs that already had permission could still have SU permission, but, in an attempt to fix the issue I cleared the program cache and those programs lost their SU permission(like TT and terminal).
Their is a new SU permissions program on the market that I paid for from the same company but I assume because the old one is still installed that it is not showing up for that reason and cannot be opened.
I cannot figure out how to get rid of the original Superuser Permissions program. I have tried every program I could find by surfing forums, I have factory reset the phone... but that SU permissiosn program is still there upon a clean factory reset!
I have the ADB installed on my PC, but when I try to run a remount I get an error that I am not allowed to do that. After my factory reset I tried running back through the walkthrough I listed. Visionary says its temp rooted, but in terminal the SU command says "access denied." I think this all has to do with that bad SU program being in stalled and if I can get that off and install the replacement one I paid for, then the SU could grant access to terminal and I could re-root the phone.
My theory is only speculation. Can anyone tell me how to remove this SU program. Its located in directories that are read only and all the commands I have found to remove it so far have required a rooted terminal command, or ADB remount commands that I cannot use. Please help. Thanks
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Try flashing another ROM or a kernel. this could be an error or corruption in the folder located in the root folder of your phone. Flash a new ROM and try it again but set a backup and see if this error continued to another ROM. Hope I helped
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Do you have clockwork recovery, not rom manager, turn off phone hold vol dwn and power.. you should boot in custome recovery all letters should be orange,
If you have that good! Jus go to dev section and download a stock rom that is rooted put in sdcard and boot in cwm recovery go to back up and restore, do a back up after back up is down do a wip/factory reset, when down click install zip from sdcard, then choose zip from sdcard and look for rom that is in sdcard and flash that.. or you want you could also get cyanogenrom too but also get gapps too
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When I hold the vol down button the text is in orange.
I will try this process. I am at work and may not have a lot of time here today. If you can point me to where I might find the stock ROM w/ root that would be wonderful.
I assume that rooted version comes with SU and clockwork etc already installed?
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Do you have clockwork recovery, not rom manager, turn off phone hold vol dwn and power.. you should boot in custome recovery all letters should be orange,
If you have that good! Jus go to dev section and download a stock rom that is rooted put in sdcard and boot in cwm recovery go to back up and restore, do a back up after back up is down do a wip/factory reset, when down click install zip from sdcard, then choose zip from sdcard and look for rom that is in sdcard and flash that.. or you want you could also get cyanogenrom too but also get gapps too
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Ok... maybe I was mistaken. When I boot into recovery, it says S-off, and the options I have to choose from are orange, but ALL the text is not orange.
When I go through ROM manager to flash a ROM(which is the stock rom i downloaded that I want to flash) it says I need to have CWR installed and to use the option at the top to install it. When I click that it says its asking for permissions to install, which means I need SU permissions, which is my problem in the first place.
I have the rom loaded on my SD. As I said, the 4 options I have in the initial recovery mode are orange(though the rest of the text is now orange) but I do not know which one to choose. Any advice? Do I have clockwork recovery installed? If not, is their any way to flash a ROM?
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The only thing I did not do is install the eng hboot.
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Did someone miss this? I thought you had to have the ENG-Hboot?
But, what do I know, I'm a newb.....
Hey guys,
Recently rooted using unrevoked and wifi tether was working but after updating superuser to 3.0.7 tethering no longer works and asks if I have root? It says S-OFF in the bootloader. Tried to run unrevoked again but it failed to get root access. Also tried clearing cache and data but still no luck. Any ideas? Thanks.
Running 2.2
Open the Superuser app and make sure permissions is on, then reboot
still no luck. I tried z4 and temp rooted and it seems to have added the permissions to superuser but after reboot same thing happens. I guess the apps cant see the root?
Might try to downgrade superuser to like su-2.3.6.2-efgh by flashing within recovery and then go back in and updating from market.
If you're S-Off, you don't need to keep trying to root. You're rooted.
What I would do is make sure you have Amon Ra for recovery, wipe everything as outlined in the guide I wrote (link in my sig) and flash a ROM. That will give you SU and you should be fine.
Just clearing Cache and Data is not enough. You need to clear Dalvik Cache, System, etc...
tried this and it didnt work for me.. any other suggestions?
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tried this and it didnt work for me.. any other suggestions?
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http://downloads.androidsu.com/superuser/su-bin-3.0.3.2-efghi-signed.zip flash this in recovery
CM11 doesn't seem to have root. I've flashed the latest nightly and for whatever reason, it just doesn't want to work right. Can't delete installed apps, can't remount, or anything...I can't be the only one can I?
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CM11 doesn't seem to have root. I've flashed the latest nightly and for whatever reason, it just doesn't want to work right. Can't delete installed apps, can't remount, or anything...I can't be the only one can I?
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Probably, the problem is the app you're trying to use...
RavenII said:
CM11 doesn't seem to have root. I've flashed the latest nightly and for whatever reason, it just doesn't want to work right. Can't delete installed apps, can't remount, or anything...I can't be the only one can I?
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Did you install a custom kernel after flashing the rom?
diogo.sena said:
Probably, the problem is the app you're trying to use...
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It's got to be a system thing, even adb won't remember when I authorize my computer....
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Did you install a custom kernel after flashing the rom?
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Negative, stock kernel. Clean install...
My suggestion is to get the latest TWRP or CWM and factory reset, wipe system, and delvik cache. Then flash the rom again. It is possible you also have a corrupted download. Use an MD5 checker on the ZIP to make sure it isn't corrupted. If you don't want to start over you can also flash the auto root from chainfire from this link.
http://download.chainfire.eu/297/CF-Root/CF-Auto-Root/CF-Auto-Root-mako-occam-nexus4.zip
So I got around to it. Clean wipe, fresh from the start, install latest nightly of CM10, gapps, and no go. It says it's giving romtoolbox Pro permissions, but it can't delete anything. I authorize the computer to communicate through adb, and it forgets after a reboot...
The only thing is that I'm running Philz touch latest recovery...
Have you tried installing supersu? I found that a lot of apps have problems with the default super user.
I guess your /system doesn't have the right permissions. It's maybe set to read only.
IF not.. > Check your developer options and give root access to adb and apps
for some reason on my KTLE every time i update the cyanogenmod via cyandelta i have to reinstall the superSU application even though i installed it into system app from the option that was given in the super su. only thing i am doing is wiping cache/davik and after rebooting would need to download the app again.
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for some reason on my KTLE every time i update the cyanogenmod via cyandelta i have to reinstall the superSU application even though i installed it into system app from the option that was given in the super su. only thing i am doing is wiping cache/davik and after rebooting would need to download the app again.
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Move it to /data/app so it'll survive your flashing of updates.
Yes tried that it worked but is informing me I need to install su binary when I open the app