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Temporary Unroot Using SuperSU to Perform OTA Updates?

Hi Everyone,
I know there is already a thread about using Voodo OTA Rootkeeper which I believe allows you to temporarily unroot the Nexus 7 in order to apply the 4.1.1 update, but I'm wondering if SuperSU can be used to do the same? Is the process as simple as disabling SuperSU in settings, then applying the system update and then re-enabling SuperSU once the update has been installed? I am currently unrooted and have already installed the 4.1.1 update, but I am intending to root my device soon and am wondering if this process could be used for future updates?
Thanks
Here is a link to the Voodoo OTA guide:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1764794

I'd like to know the as well.
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IIRC, ota updates won't flash without the stock recovery.
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just forget about official ota, deb's cook em to be flashable in custom recoveries, plus paulobrein will update his rom when new updates drop!
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do you have to change the recovery when unlocking/rooting if i'm not bothered about installing other roms, but want the ability to run root programs?

fridgeman said:
do you have to change the recovery when unlocking/rooting if i'm not bothered about installing other roms, but want the ability to run root programs?
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No, you don't have to change/flash a different recovery. When using the Nexus Toolkit (which I used this afternoon with great success!), you have the option to keep the stock recovery or flash clockworkmod (CWM). CWM is great if you're flashing custom roms, themes etc. as it's much more flexible (I believe), but if you're main goal is to be able to use root apps, then the stock recovery will be fine

OTA after Root

I can't find a simple answer on this. I just want to root my stock ROM, can't be done without unlocking the bootloader, but will I lose OTA if I do that.
Thanks

You won't get updates if you have a custom recovery. Rooting it will not deny you updates.
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Sweet. I have root, stock recovery. no problemo

scream4cheese said:
You won't get updates if you have a custom recovery. Rooting it will not deny you updates.
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There was another thread on here about the same topic where someone said that even with a custom recovery you can install the update and that CWM will ask if you want to keep root after installing the OTA.

scream4cheese said:
You won't get updates if you have a custom recovery. Rooting it will not deny you updates.
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What?
You get updates with a custom recovery.
I use CWM. I got an update, said install, CWM popped up, installed it, and asked if I wanted to keep root and the custom recovery. I said yes, and magic ensued.

ace7196 said:
What?
You get updates with a custom recovery.
I use CWM. I got an update, said install, CWM popped up, installed it, and asked if I wanted to keep root and the custom recovery. I said yes, and magic ensued.
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Confirmed. You do get updates when using CWM.

Install "OTA Rootkeeper" and you will keep your root after updates.
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sorry about re-questioning this:
I only want to root just to be able to use titanium backup to move data from one phone to another; are the OTA still gonna work? I dont intend to flash any custom rom for the moment.
thanks.

ultimul said:
sorry about re-questioning this:
I only want to root just to be able to use titanium backup to move data from one phone to another; are the OTA still gonna work? I dont intend to flash any custom rom for the moment.
thanks.
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Seems so.

it is phone encryption gonna work after root?

yes, no reason why not?

ultimul said:
sorry about re-questioning this:
I only want to root just to be able to use titanium backup to move data from one phone to another; are the OTA still gonna work? I dont intend to flash any custom rom for the moment.
thanks.
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Hi Ultimul, did you try rooting finally and are you receiving the OTA after rooting and with CWM.
Advice me as I have the same ambition to root just to back up app data but not install custom rom.

[Q] Steps to get my phone ready for Android 4.4

Hello!
I recently had Xposed Framework installed. I uninstalled it to get my phone ready for the Android 4.4 OTA.
I have a STOCK ROOTED Nexus 4 with CWM Recovery (Bootloader: Unlocked).
I wanted to download the Android 4.4 OTA once it is released.
Based on what I understand, there are two ways (that I prefer) of receiving this:
1> Unroot the phone and put stock recovery. I had a question with this method:
a: Would I need to lock the bootloader to install the OTA? If yes, on locking would I loose my data?
2> Flashing a binary that would be released on the Google website. I also had a few questions related to this:
a: Would I loose my data if I did so?
b: Do I need to make any changes to my Stock Rooted Nexus 4 with CWM Recovery to follow this method?
Which method would you follow? Or do you have a better method? Please help me out :laugh:
Thank You!

Just go to the ota help desk here on xda and once the ota is being released they will put it in a zip file and you will be able to install it in recovery without losing any data, so just like a normal ota.
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Thibaultvw said:
Just go to the ota help desk here on xda and once the ota is being released they will put it in a zip file and you will be able to install it in recovery without losing any data, so just like a normal ota.
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That's great. But what if I want to install the OTA? Wouldn't installing something from the OTA Helpdesk void the warranty?

ak****soota said:
That's great. But what if I want to install the OTA? Wouldn't installing something from the OTA Helpdesk void the warranty?
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No................................................................. this isn't a Samsung phone.
Can anyone confirm you need to unroot or not to receive OTA? (I have never bothered with it since flashing roms). Just make sure you're running unrooted stock rom that is odexed, stock kernel and stock recovery, as far as I know.
If you flash the factory firmware from Google it will wipe out everything, including your /sdcard/ partition. You could wait for a 'stock rom' that is flashable by custom recovery, these don't delete your /sdcard while flashing, these (unrooted odexed) roms should still be able to receive OTA (correct me if I'm wrong).

Yes u will have to unroot to receive OTA.
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ak****soota said:
Hello!
I recently had Xposed Framework installed. I uninstalled it to get my phone ready for the Android 4.4 OTA.
I have a STOCK ROOTED Nexus 4 with CWM Recovery (Bootloader: Unlocked).
I wanted to download the Android 4.4 OTA once it is released.
Based on what I understand, there are two ways (that I prefer) of receiving this:
1> Unroot the phone and put stock recovery. I had a question with this method:
a: Would I need to lock the bootloader to install the OTA? If yes, on locking would I loose my data?
2> Flashing a binary that would be released on the Google website. I also had a few questions related to this:
a: Would I loose my data if I did so?
b: Do I need to make any changes to my Stock Rooted Nexus 4 with CWM Recovery to follow this method?
Which method would you follow? Or do you have a better method? Please help me out :laugh:
Thank You!
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I see so many of these threads and then I see the I bricked my phone going back to stock threads next. Please if you enjoy root and the features it brings you just relax and wait out the update. Your favorite developer will then create a nice new KitKat version with your updates and customizations. Of course do what you like but to unroot and get rid of your custom rom to have stock and then re root to try and get the same effect again just sounds crazy too me.
Patience is a virtue
Edit: but your question is what route to take just so you know there are back to stock threads which would be your best bet to follow if you honestly feel like doing all that to undo it later....

[Q] Unroot without full wiping

I recently realized that I use no root requiring apps or custom ROMs on my Nexus 7(while I keep my phone rooted for many a reason). Now that I hear the 4.4 update is being pushed, it occurs to me that all keeping a custom recovery and root on my tablet does is complicate updates. So I want to unroot, return my recovery to the stock, and get myself all ready to wait for the update to push out. What would be the best way to do this that does not require me to lose data/game saves/have to reset everything up?

Fastboot flash the stock recovery and don't worry about su because the ota will take care of that.
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hi i am on stock 4.3 & recovery no system apps removed at all, bootloader unlocked, am i safe to take 4.4 OTA?

Yes, should be safe.
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langhaardack said:
Yes, should be safe.
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I am sure this has been answered somewhere and I did search the forum before posting but right now i am pretty excited about 4.4 and would like the experts to answer this regarding grouper :-
I got the 4.3 update OTA on a rooted 4.2. I later rooted the 4.3 but did not remove any default apps. I also have frano kernel installed and TWRP recovery. Does the kernel and custom recovery affect the OTA process? Am i safe for 4.4 OTA? or shall i unroot, install stock kernel and also stock recovery?
Thanks

You should be fine if you install the stock recovery before the OTA arrives
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Open the SuperSU app on your device.. Go to the app settings and select the option to unroot/clean up.. Reboot. That is all.
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johnlittle88 said:
I am sure this has been answered somewhere and I did search the forum before posting but right now i am pretty excited about 4.4 and would like the experts to answer this regarding grouper :-
I got the 4.3 update OTA on a rooted 4.2. I later rooted the 4.3 but did not remove any default apps. I also have frano kernel installed and TWRP recovery. Does the kernel and custom recovery affect the OTA process? Am i safe for 4.4 OTA? or shall i unroot, install stock kernel and also stock recovery?
Thanks
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Yes, you'll want the stock kernel and stock recovery installed.

On grouper, it can update independent of changes you have made to the system and recovery. This isn't true for all other nexus devices, for example, mako. Doing the 4.4 update will get rid of root for you, but it will flash fine even if you have a custom recovery. You may need to flash stock recovery manually if you don't want custom recovery anymore.

korockinout13 said:
On grouper, it can update independent of changes you have made to the system and recovery. This isn't true for all other nexus devices, for example, mako. Doing the 4.4 update will get rid of root for you, but it will flash fine even if you have a custom recovery. You may need to flash stock recovery manually if you don't want custom recovery anymore.
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In the past, that has failed for me. I'm still one update behind on 4.3 because it would not install and I was too lazy previously to unroot and get it to install.

langhaardack said:
Fastboot flash the stock recovery and don't worry about su because the ota will take care of that.
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Do you know where I can find the recovery itself? Only ones I find in my searching are TWRP and Clockwork.

rougegoat said:
Do you know where I can find the recovery itself? Only ones I find in my searching are TWRP and Clockwork.
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Did you ever find the stock recovery? I'm looking to unroot without losing my app data..
PS, sorry for bringing this back from the dead, but it is exactly what I am looking for.

G2 recover and rom questions.

I will be trading my iphone 5 on Monday for a Verizon G2 On the 12B build. I have been out of the android thing for a year now. I know how to root the phone but the Loki and recovery stuff is very new to me.
Main questions are how do I install a recovery that bypasses the boot loader and allows full flashing. TWRP is preferable but if CWM is better on this phone that's fine. What is Loki exactly and once I install a a Loki recovery can I install any kernels/ ROMs that I want? Please provide me with a step by step and links to stuff you think I need to know. I really appreciate your help.
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Last android I had was a Razr Maxx so I am used to safe strap. This seems very different.
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SimsDelt said:
Last android I had was a Razr Maxx so I am used to safe strap. This seems very different.
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You can flash custom roms and recovery without thinking about the bootloader. It's supposedly locked, but nothing to worry about.
Just root, flash custom recovery and flash custom rom. Any recovery will do, and TWRP is my favourite as well
If you decide you want to root and put a custom recovery on it there are two things to consider.
1. NEVER accept an OTA update. Not even if it promises you two tickets to the land of the unicorns. Don't!
2. Back up everything. And your EFS partition. And save it. Not on your device. Heck, make 5 copies and put one copy on an USB-dongle, another on your computer, the third under your bed, the fourth in your wallet and make a bank account in Switzerland for the fifth. The EFS partition contains crucial informations about your device. If you by accident delete it when flashing a custom rom, you turned your phone into a 5.2 inch tablet. And there's no way of getting it back. You might never need it, but if you do, you will thank yourself for having made that backup!

Thanks for the info. What way do you recommend to flash recovery? GooManager or other app. Or some other method? and also do you use your recovery to backup the efs partition or something else?
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SimsDelt said:
Thanks for the info. What way do you recommend to flash recovery? GooManager or other app. Or some other method? and also do you use your recovery to backup the efs partition or something else?
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I personally haven't rooted this G2 yet, but TWRP offers the ability to back up your EFS.
Have a look here for backing up EFS: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2451390
You can use flashify to install TWRP, should be pretty easy and straightforward

Great. Is there a thread here on using flashify? I'm unfamiliar with that.
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SimsDelt said:
Great. Is there a thread here on using flashify? I'm unfamiliar with that.
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There might be. Check this out though.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nTJI9ThY0mk

Ok. Thanks. I googled it too and found a thread elsewhere with a step by step
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SimsDelt said:
Ok. Thanks. I googled it too and found a thread elsewhere with a step by step
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I guess if you flash a custom rom then that will cure the OTA issue

Hi All,
I just rooted my verizon G2 using ioroot19 and the instructions from the dev thread. When I then used clockwork rom manager to flash the vs980 verson of clockworkmod recovery. The flash said it worked but when I tried to get in I got the android with the red! I then followed the instructions here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2449670 both methods 1 and 2, but now all I get when I try to get into recovery is a black screen. The phone still boots fine, but nothing seems to work for the recovery.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Don't use rom manager. It doesn't work on our phones. Use flashify or freegee to install a recovery
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tdevaughn said:
Don't use rom manager. It doesn't work on our phones. Use flashify or freegee to install a recovery
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When I flash TWRP with Freegee. Will my phone still be able to boot into my stock ROM or will I only boot into recovery and need to flash a ROM?
Do you prefer Freegee or Flashify?

You can boot into your stock rom
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Do I need to Backup my EFS before flashing TWRP or after?

Zarek1 said:
Do I need to Backup my EFS before flashing TWRP or after?
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After mate, you can do it from TWRP
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SimsDelt said:
I will be trading my iphone 5 on Monday for a Verizon G2 On the 12B build. I have been out of the android thing for a year now. I know how to root the phone but the Loki and recovery stuff is very new to me.
Main questions are how do I install a recovery that bypasses the boot loader and allows full flashing. TWRP is preferable but if CWM is better on this phone that's fine. What is Loki exactly and once I install a a Loki recovery can I install any kernels/ ROMs that I want? Please provide me with a step by step and links to stuff you think I need to know. I really appreciate your help.
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Use freegee. it will do the trick on a rooted phone. It is made by Shelnutt2. You can use the free or paid version but the paid version is cheap and you will support future development.
It is one of the best ways of installing TWRP/CWM on the LG G2.
Paid version (use this one)
Free version

Freegee worked great. Thanks!