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Handroid; Android on the Hermes.
Hi all!
Ok, first off i'd just like to say i'm not as new here as I may seem - i've been stalking round these parts for 2/3 months now. Please don't flame me for that.
My only other post was on the discussion on a possible android port to the Hermes.
I liked this idea greatly, and so I decided to start the 'Handroid' project.
The idea is simple, a full port of android to the hermes. Nothing more, nothing less.
The port will be based on the linux port to the hermes as it would be foolish to let that port rust a little more while we start a new one.
We've all seen videos of android running on other pocketpc's so it's evidently possible.
But this is where I have to ask for your help. To get this port underway quickly and efficiently we need a team. And a team means that people like yourselves that feel they could help us out in some way. Help. Or even anyone you know who might have the skills required.
Handroid now has it's own wiki up Here.(That address is only a temporary one on my blog's webspace, handroid.org will be registered soon. Also, please for goodness sake don't flame because its a Work In Progress site. It will be looking much better soon.) I would love to hear from some of you soon on the wiki, or here.
Any help or even just a few points of input (or even failing that, simply encouragement) would be greatfully recieved. However, make no mistake, if this project is to suceed we need your help. I can't do this on my own.
I really hope to speak to some of you on the team soon.
Sam
Ok we will on touch!!!
Ok men if we could find anything usefull maybe pmed you must works... nice wiki...
BTW how can you do it? i have an account there too and i dont know where to start hahaha
*flames lick feet... i think*
Ok, so I take that's the first of many flames? Or was it genuine. Some how I doubt. *sigh*
Welcome !!!!
Hi,
i appreciate this attempt of getting some attention to port some alternative OS to hermes platform. Indeed it could be done and it would be in the spirit of GPL like the openmoko people did for there mobile devices.
In fact we urgently need some brave kernel hackers to push this forward, because the base of all that android stuff is a nice working kernel.
Please have a look at this thread to get an idea of the work that has been put into this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=273579
There's a lot of useful stuff
There are some barriers (arrrghh) and there are new devices drawing attention so the progress of linux port stucked a bit....
Anyway the winmob family is doing great work, so let's see how far we would come with this alternative!
Have fun,
scholbert
I am very interested and I hope I can be helpful (at least cheer leading). Though I don't know anything about the Hermes kernel, as a reverse engineer, I always hack my way out. I keep my eyes on your wiki.
Great!
Thanks for the anti-flames.... I think my feet didn't get burnt too much.
We ultimately need people with a specialism in linux driver/kernel development. However, as far as I can tell the kernel is pretty much functional, but I will check more closely later.
I'm also going to contact some developers of the other Android ports around and see if they have any advise.
Will report back soon,
Sam
Any new notice?
Anybody still working on this?
Hello friends! I created this thread to make a proposal to the dev's and cookers ...
Well, what I mean is that we have bright developers of ROMs for our XPERIA X8
I think most of them work on your own ROMs, without the assistance of anyone (I'm NOT saying they are not able to cook a ROM)
What I mean is that I think that all the dev's of X8 ROM's (as racht, doixanh or AnDyX), cookers (like ME!) and designers (like AChep) come together and form a team, so to create an all-new custom ROM with the help and idea of all users of the Xperia X8!
The forum is for everyone to share their ideas and how they can help in the development of custom ROMs for our devices, and I believe that together we can create a perfect ROM!
That's the idea and proposed to you all, developers of ROMs of our Xperia X8 ...
I think it's a good idea!
Who agrees with me?
Remember: In unity is strength!
It sounds good in theory but I doubt they will work on a single rom. As far as I see it, racht likes gingerbread and has abandoned his floyo rom, but dx likes froyo so he started adding things from gingerbread for users to have a better experience while using it. One thing that I know for certain, if someone manages to find a fix for a problem in any rom I am sure they will share their work with others, because that's why they use these forums.
As for jerpelea he seems to focus more on the X10, which will get official gingerbread update, instead on X8 and that saddens me abit, but is his time to spend and he can do whatever he wants with it... AnDyX has done 2 modules but no rom so maybe ask him to make a rom from scratch by using knowledge gained from other devs.
I do not mean to them that I quoted ...
I refer to ALL's dev ...
I think if all agree to try to do this, we must settle on which Android will be based (Whether it will be 2.3 or 2.2, whatever), but I think that discussion is for later ...
My proposal is that all ideas come together and share their knowledge so that all interested members to create a fully-working near perfect ROM
This is my proposal and idea ...If anyone can understand me...
Salo-S said:
I do not mean to them that I quoted ...
I refer to ALL's dev ...
I think if all agree to try to do this, we must settle on which Android will be based (Whether it will be 2.3 or 2.2, whatever), but I think that discussion is for later ...
My proposal is that all ideas come together and share their knowledge so that all interested members to create a fully-working near perfect ROM
This is my proposal and idea ...If anyone can understand me...
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Hehe this is best idea i ever see on this forum ! Come one devs! Xda rocks! !! Sent from xgin 5.4
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I do not say that this not a good idea... but it's very-very difficult to work with someone else over the same project. I have never work over roms for phone but from my knowledge as a programmer i can say that it may be better working like now...
I was working with a programmer over a firefox addon (like the way you say) but it was very difficult. I was forced to inform him about everything i did, so to let him know what he should do. I started keeping notes and made a program lol...
You must be very consistent too do this...
I wish our devs have the time to set up such a project...
great idea, but... We only need to know if our devs agree with that..
GreatApo said:
I do not say that this not a good idea... but it's very-very difficult to work with someone else over the same project. I have never work over roms for phone but from my knowledge as a programmer i can say that it may be better working like now...
I was working with a programmer over a firefox addon (like the way you say) but it was very difficult. I was forced to inform him about everything i did, so to let him know what he should do. I started keeping notes and made a program lol...
You must be very consistent too do this...
I wish our devs have the time to set up such a project...
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I feel the same way. It is very difficult to work with multiple people at the same project, each in a different place. Everyone should have from time to time the exact same code and this would necessarily mean working in shifts and not in a team.
What I see much more easy to do is try to understand what features should have the "perfect rom", such as it is doing doixanh for froyobread, posting polls and seeing what the majority prefers.
We could start with topics such as: 1) froyo base vs. gingerbread base, 2) favorite launcher, 3) basic applications preinstalled .. etc etc. ..
Then we might ask a developer to take charge of the project and prepare the ROM. As an incentive we can provide some donation, if at the end of the project will be many users of the forum to participate, there won't be too hard to put together a little cash I think.
What do you think? Could it be possible?
While I won't downplay this idea, because it does have its merit, this would be VERY hard to achieve. Devs would need to communicate everything they did to eachother, which could prove difficult. However what we COULD do is designate assignments for a specific dev. For example:
Doixanh - Porting Gingerbread features to Froyo and performance
Jerpelea & Blagus - Cracking the bootloader
And so on, so forth. Publish all the work in Google Code or Github to make easily accessible for the whole community.
This to me seems the only really viable way to go...
well I hope so !! really they are the betters and could pass something nice
So typical.
All i see are random members saying that it can't be done or that it is so hard to achieve.
Why can't you wait for devs to answer for themselves?
...I agree with all that this is difficult but... I think that the are already work in a team... xda devs' team... they already help each other enought.
First of all, this thread belongs to Genreal section.
Now on-topic:
I don't see any usefullness from this idea.
1st Devs are helping each other anyway for sure
2nd.. 2nddd?!?!?! :O
Oh, yeah... there's no second.
Point is:
Example: doixanh is stuck at something when making froyobread.. he will ask someone for tip...
racht hackdroid has camera disabled... kuya will fix it (altough he's a cooker, not dev I suppose)
You got it??
Apps preistalled, default launcher... install your favorites by yourself you lazyasses
if OP want it like cyanogenmod,
than it is freexperia project.
I don't see it working.
btw, yes, I'm not a "dev", I like and always be a newbie
Theres already a project like that, it is FreeXperia project, i suppose everyone already know that.
The point is, we should just continue that project, if someone already have a well programming knowledge, then they should just help that project, creating the libs for X8 to be used for 2.3+ Android version later.
that's good idea,newbie like me very happy to hear it
That's a good idea, but i think that we'll have more progress about a Cyanogen 7 rom soon enough.
Welcome guys once again . I don't want make this thread super brilliant and stylish, it's just for me and you to notice, how's projects going. As you should know (hopefully), I'm back with 3 projects for Xperia Play (and X10 too), so 6 projects at all is not easy way, so I need some place to make everything clear and most important. This thread have this destiny. Don't forget it's not a help thread, they will appear in the right time, when every project will be ready to put on XDA. Thanks for understand and being with me even if I was too quiet too long, but my justification is more projects in one time ^^. See you all, and have a nice day!
Moderators: If this thread is useless in your feelings, please contact me, don't delete it without any words, cause I'll lost many informations . Thanks .
==> CLICK HERE TO SEE ALL PROJECTS AND MODS BY ME <==
Xperia Play:
1) DiXperia 3 "Enormous" - Just like 1 and 2, it will be friendly for users and gamers - just for everything, Play can handle those two destinations together in one piece . Expect newest Sony framework, with good free RAM, fast ecosystem and good scripts .
2) DiXperia "Perennial" - New project in this community, it will be made for hardcore gamers, with pretty (for now just plans) look of topic, to give you feel you're really using something different . As we know, GB is the best system for games on XPlay, so it will stay in this project too, with tons of adjustments .
3) DiXperia "Energizer" - The next one new one . It will be a fresh made by me, cause on Play I was always on GB. Now, with Energizer, it will change. JB on the base, with those part of community, who don't care much much MUCH about games (it doesn't mean they don't play at all) but they just want new ROM with new things/ports and of course stability and performance - my priority all the time .
It's a short review of non-exist projects for now, but soon I will start working on all of them, of course I will need help if anyone want to give me a hand . I can say, some things could change in the future, but it's unnecessary in my opinion - all projects seems to have good destiny for itself, and everyone should find something for himself/herself ^^.
Feel free guys/girls to ask a questions, so I can answer it as soon as possible . Thank you for your waiting, and wait once again, maybe longer! 6 projects, with my personal life, school, sleep (crazy!), sports, family etc. will be hard but....If I say something - I always keep one's word . Cheers guys!
Also, don't forget this this is NOT helpful, but it doesn't mean you can't give some advices for me, to apply some things for projects .
And one more, most important - I will need some guys to help:
- 3 persons to make help thread for each ROM (or maybe one person, but I don't know if he/she will hold 3 threads ). [GOT 2]
- Some graphics/visual buddies to help me with ROM styles and threads look-like. [NO NEED ANYMORE!]
- Stable and certain testers (3 to 6) [NO NEED ANYMORE!]
- Kernel Developer for DXEngine Environment [NO NEED ANYMORE!]
- If you think you are ideal person to help me in anything, like making me coffe or sandwiches, write here some clever idea .
No big news about ROMs for now, but next weekend I will try to collect sources for DX3 .
EDIT:
People who wants to help:
-Shaiaz - Graphic designer, thank you!
-pedyvirus - Tester #1, and owner of discussion romthread #1 (DiXperia 3) thank you!
-Pizza_Dox - Tester #2, and owner of discussion romthread #2 (DiXperia Perennial), thank you!
-mocool05 - Tester #3, thank you!
-smokerman - owner of discussion romthread #3 (DiXperia Energizer), thank you!
-abdel12345 - Tester #4, thank you!
-sheraro - Tester #5 (+bootanimation helper), thank you!
-extremetempz - Tester #6, and Kernel Developer, thank you!
DiKeJ said:
- Some graphics/visual buddies to help me with ROM styles and threads look-like.
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This one i might be able to help a little with You just have to ask if you wanna see anything i have made
If you able to send some work via PM - I'm ready . Thank you for reply ^^.
Sent from my Xperia X10i using xda premium
i can be your tester i don't have any problem when you need testers(maybe im on vacation when you need testers.the time is unknown)
update:i flashed all the gb roms in our forum and also i was tester of a rom about 1 moth a go. i know my job
I can also be your tester, And if you want help with General moding and etc...
Also How are your Hands? (im sorry if im asking this in a werid way...)
Great 2 C U back in the Community,
Tester here! Flash roms often, and would love to teat and report back to you. As a plus im on summer vac. So I have hours to kill.
From The god of gaming, the R800i Xperia Play
mocool05 said:
Tester here! Flash roms often, and would love to teat and report back to you. As a plus im on summer vac. So I have hours to kill.
From The god of gaming, the R800i Xperia Play
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Yea same im on a summer vacation in 3 weeks for 2 months
Pizza_Dox said:
Yea same im on a summer vacation in 3 weeks for 2 months
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Awsome. Planing anything?
From The god of gaming, the R800i Xperia Play
Thank you guys, let's just say we have minimum testers here, you're awesome, really! .
Pizza_Dox, my hands are much better, but it's just result of not developping for a long time, also not typing much on keyboard. And good rehabilitation, should make me resistant for future work, I know how to avoid pain etc.. Thanks for asking buddy ^^.
Your Welcome, Also Glad so much that your back , subed to this topic incase of updates,
Hope your hands get better over time!
Pizza_Dox said:
Your Welcome, Also Glad so much that your back , subed to this topic incase of updates,
Hope your hands get better over time!
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Same here. Hope all goes well
From The god of gaming, the R800i Xperia Play
3 persons to make help thread for each ROM
i can help you in this..dont know if i can handle 3 threads at same time..but i can take care of one at least,coz i have 2 of my one..MIUI gamer edition (GB) and MIUIv5(JB).
glad you are better,and back to play and x10.
I want around when you were here I'm the beginning but I'm glad to see your better. I can help test for sure if you need anymore. Im on an r800x so I won't be able to test service bit that will probably work well anyway since its based on stock ( I think). I can test games and smoothness and other uses. Also I might be able help with one of the threads but not sure yet and device I don't have the gsm version it might not be the best idea
Sent from my Xperia Play (r800x)
will test anything here ! can make custom bootanimations too
Is this rom will run on neo l? Tnx
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Jesus, guys, I'm limited to 8 thanks per day, so can't click on newer post . But be sure I'm preety amazed and excited about your willingness for help . Let's just say, for now I have enough testers, so no need to ask for it.
myk69, I've heard that some Neo L ROMs appear on Play, after some edits - I'm sure official version of my projects won't boot on your device, but some Dev with Neo L will know what to do to make it . I'm glad not only Play users want DiXperias .
im willing to test anything since my xperia is my gaming phone
DiKeJ said:
If you able to send some work via PM - I'm ready . Thank you for reply ^^.
Sent from my Xperia X10i using xda premium
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I'll send something when i get home
Just for curiosity, do you need testers for each rom or like 3 PER ROM ? I'm curios, i see a point in both, like the ability to compare them while in testing, like "This rom is lacking this feature which the other ROM has" something like that
Great to see you back! :good::fingers-crossed::good:
I just bought my first ever Android device. This SGY is far not the best ever phone, but it was cheap and I kind of see it as a toy :laugh:
I wonder how to have a cROM with my native language? All cROMs I can see here are in english. This is doable but not convinient. There was already a thread with a similar question but the answer is unreadable and the link isn't working anymore.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=676042
Is there a "change language in cROMs for dummies" somewhere - or can we create one here?
regard,
crunchy
Translate the ROM
there are many guides over CDA to help, not too hard too
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mohamedrashad said:
Translate the ROM
there are many guides over CDA to help, not too hard too
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somehow it is hard. Most things shown in google are related to music CDs or a political party in Germany. If I add "android" it tells me how to play CDA music on android phones.
I don't think this is what I am looking for.
But "translate the ROM" helped. I found this thread here
jBART - BurgerZ Android ROM Tools --> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1736409
I will have a closer look at this.
Thank you.
If anything better is around (or jBART not working for Galaxy Y) please let me know. Thanks.
crunchy said:
somehow it is hard. Most things shown in google are related to music CDs or a political party in Germany. If I add "android" it tells me how to play CDA music on android phones.
I don't think this is what I am looking for.
But "translate the ROM" helped. I found this thread here
jBART - BurgerZ Android ROM Tools --> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1736409
I will have a closer look at this.
Thank you.
If anything better is around (or jBART not working for Galaxy Y) please let me know. Thanks.
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i think.. he meant to type XDA and not CDA... it's a typo..
SGY has a small screen.. and X and C are close on the keyboard. :|
Hey and Hello Folks, it's been a while since my last Post on the Nexus 6 Forums...
Maybe there are some People left who remembers who i'am, but this isn't Important yet!
I'm just creating something new and get some help with it from a advanced Developer which is well known to some of You.
What i want now? I want a Team! Someone who helps me to stay cool if it gets hard. Someone who helps to create and test Things with Me...
I don't want to say what it is now (CopyCats everywhere), but i'm excited about it and it goes Cross Device Supporting in the Future if all goes right...
I'm searching specially for Themers and People which are advanced with Modifying ROMs or Sources...
A Name for this Project is already selected and the Plan is to follow My Plan. If You're interested and worthy to trust, i will tell You what i want to do and You can decide if You want to Join. But this here is TOP-SECRET and i want to Release it with a Big Bang and without any Public Infos before...
We can use the Thread if You want, but Infos about the Project get shared only over PM or Hangouts/Allo! Peace Y'all :angel:
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If you're still looking for someone, I might be interested. This reply is my first post on XDA in the longest time, but I used to be very involved in the ROM, kernel, and theme scene. I've also recently begun building apps. I know my way around the source code, and the Java and xml inside the apk's, so I know I could be of some help with the theming at the very least.
This kind of project may just be enough to pull me out of "retirement", so please, feel free to contact me if you'd like. You can PM me here, and we can set up a Hangouts chat or something.
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