Is it just me or not.
Basically, stock android launcher lags on those roms unlike Stock LG ROM, Sense ROM or Galaxy ACE roms.
Home replacements resolves scrolling choppiness on homescreens, but open and closing animations still lags.
Does everyone else have this problem or is this just the nature of Cyanogen MOD?
What do you mean?
What do you mean by opening and closing animations? All launchers lag but it depends on how much it lags.
V6 Supercharger script solved that problem..
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I used on my GT540 the stock launcher for months, and I was more than happy with it.
Go to ''Spare Parts'' in CM7, to the 2 animation speed settings, and set them both to ''slow'', it's not ''slow'' but it's more fluid.
Also, in settings, try to set the phone to display all animations.
I hope it helps.
CPU
Try changing the 'MINIMUM' CPU speed to 480mhz. It reduces alot of lag.
Hi all, i experience lag when scrolling in any launcher (only except stock launcher TW4) in stock ROM or any stock based ROM. I dont see it in CM9 or AOSP based ROM.
Anyone know how to fix ? Thanks !
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Hi all, i experience lag when scrolling in any launcher (only except stock launcher TW4) in stock ROM or any stock based ROM. I dont see it in CM9 or AOSP based ROM.
Anyone know how to fix ? Thanks !
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Same here, same everywhere. On CM9 everything run smooth. Thus its a software issue from Sammy's stock
Had the same issue. turned off system power saving and it is smooth again
I have never used power saving mode!
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Maybe the launcher you use is like a memory hog.
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I have tried apex, nova, go, spb 3d, tsf shell and many more. They all lag, only TW4 works fine, but i dont like TW4
This is quite a true problem, nothing to do with Power Saving mode or anything else. Launchers are laggy in the Note. The only non-stock launcher experience can be had with official CM9 as far as I've flashed (and some small exceptions here and there, by luck...)
I made the observation that custom ROMs for this phone (I have only tested CM, SlimBean unofficial and Mokee) seem to be laggy while using with the same or even less installed applications compared to my Nexus 4.
The stock ROM runs very fluid. The kernel from Wootever makes no big difference.
Anyone else experiencing this and/or know a reason for it?
Thanks
MaluNoPeleke said:
I made the observation that custom ROMs for this phone (I have only tested CM, SlimBean unofficial and Mokee) seem to be laggy while using with the same or even less installed applications compared to my Nexus 4.
The stock ROM runs very fluid. The kernel from Wootever makes no big difference.
Anyone else experiencing this and/or know a reason for it?
Thanks
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What is your definition of laggy? Why would number of installed apps matter? What is your CPU frequency at and governer? Launcher used? Widgets used?
Laggy means that I can see how the launcher has to redraw or Firefox has to reload and stuttering.
Default kernel settings or Nexus 5 recommended settings, No difference.
Nova Launcher beta. Many widgets (five screens)
Help i have a galaxy s4 I9500(octa),i deleted all samsung apps,google apps,even knox and all other apps but my s4 still laggs as hell,the only smooth rom was pure android but it have a lot of randon reboots,sound issues,call problems what to do to have a smooth stock rom?
Flash a new stock Rom
Go to sammobile download your firnware and install vua odin...
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stock rom, remove things listed in the ultimate de bloat list, use system tuner or similar? in developer options change all animation scales to "animation off", and lastly try a different launcher. nova is probably the speediest/most lag free launcher I've ever used.
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stock rom, remove things listed in the ultimate de bloat list, use system tuner or similar? in developer options change all animation scales to "animation off", and lastly try a different launcher. nova is probably the speediest/most lag free launcher I've ever used.
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i did all you said but even nova laggs,coming from smooth as butter nexus 5 to s4 wasn't a good idea...
s4 is totally smooth for me. maybe you have some apps running that are constantly eating up system resources?
also bare in mind that your nexus does have a faster cpu and gpu i believe?
but honestly i don't know how people have problems with the s4, it's already like butter out of the box!
if you really need to, you can root and look into overclocking or use a custom kernel to further improve performance....but tbh, with the spec of the s4, it's really not necessary for performance in my opinion.
I know, it's a 2 year old phone with just 1GB RAM and TouchWiz on top of it.
I've spent the last 2 days trying a LOT of roms to try to make the phone feel faster, because I don't want to buy a new one. I really like this one. The camera is AMAZING, decent battery life, love blocking mode, etc. As a phone it works great: good speaker, strong vibration, great signal, etc.
But there's one single thing that makes this phone feel "old": the speed. Just the speed. If it were faster and more fluid then there would be absolutely no reason to upgrade to the new phones (except, well, maybe more RAM and battery).
Yesterday I tried like 15 AOSP roms: CM11, temasek, ultimaAOSP, NeatROMAOSP, Vanir, AOKP, SlimKat, etc.
Nothing. It's slightly faster, but the problem is the animations. They just look wrong all the time. There's frame drops everywhere. And bugs and crashes, so back to Samsung stock today. Tried another 10 samsung based roms. Nothing new. Speed is still the same and frame drops are still there...
I guess I'll have to end up buying a new phone, but definitely not a flagship. I'm looking at midrange phones that come with AOSP. Found one with 2GB RAM, 13Mpx camera, 2500 battery, 5 inch 720P IPS screen, microSD and dual SIM for 199$. Great price, and comes with 4.4 stock Android.
Tried the phone at the store the other day and it just made my SGS3 look like the midranger, and that with a MediaTek A7 1.3 quad core!
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Exactly. Well,animations are smooth on AOSP with right kernel,but still not as it should be. This phone sucks when it comes to UI performance.
Now I even got broken camera and media playback,too,after stressing it with every new test on my phone.
Well,probably this phone worked the best with 4.1.2. I think it's all about crappy processor,called exynos.
EDIT: Btw,you can try archidroid 1x with his boeffla presets,though. After all,it's not that bad.
I think you are just setting unrealistic expectations if none of those ROMS, without TouchWiz, were any good for you.
There is nothing crappy about the processor mate. your case is an isolated issue. If the archi ROM is not smooth for you then there is something wrong with your phone.
it's always wise to stick to ROMs and kernels which are built using proper sources.
Do not restore a massive amount of data soon after a flash. Let the ROM settle a bit. Trim your device memory once in a while.
Also a megawipe is recommended after so many flashes.
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I put Cyanogenmod CM11 on mine after updating to stock 4.3. It felt like a completely different phone and brought back the speed. It absolutely flies and battery time is double what it was on stock 4.3.
I tested alot of Roms but regading speed and batterylife i use Temasek with Yank kernel. No OC and de S3 flys.
Oh god, it's like reading a thread I could have written myself. I feel you, mate. Got the same damn frustations sometimes.
It seems that whichever ROM "camp" you choose, you're gonna have drawbacks. Tried so many different variants of TW-roms and i just feel they are all too slow and with lags.
Many of the AOSP-roms are quite fast (using ArchiDroid atm which is incredibly fast!) but then you get the problem of crappy camera, no Allshare, tethering issues, many games that have sound-issues and all those random bugs we all know about but try to live with
Perhaps the new Kitkat port can solve these issues but it seems there is a lot of work to be done still. Still I'm glad there's a community like XDA with such awesome people (Like Kryten who posted earlier ) who put the time into developing these things.. Or we would be stuck with even slower ROM's from Samsung.
Is there any way to get rid of it, or at least reduce it?
Install smart droid, further debloat, run greenify and boeffla, custom launcher and its quick, no lag
Even the s5 can't run without lag using Touchwiz.
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Is there any way to get rid of it, or at least reduce it?
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Yes there is, activate Developer Options by tapping on the Build Number in About Phone. In there are 3 settings for animations. The 1st thing I do on every rom is decrease them to 25%. On CM11 and temaseks builds you have a slider which allows you to fine tune the settings instead of the picker which you find on other roms.
My personal experience is that OmniRom is just snappier than any of the others, even when I have a whole bunch of apps open, incoming calls get displayed almost instantly, the dialer and contacts open almost instantly. In my case of course. Everyone has their favourite rom/kernel combination. I have also had great success using Yank555's kernel with the default settings (which include a slight overclock with no noticeable battery drain.
So my temporarily solution is to completely disable the animations in developer settings.
It's a good solution, for now.
My combo right now is stock Samsung 4.3 debloated (many useless apps freezed. Other apps freezed also using Titanium Backup) with Boeffla kernel.
It gets annoying when animations aren't smooth and consistent, but I guess it's expected when Touchwiz is on top and just 1GB RAM.
Taking about RAM, this phone has almost no multitasking also! It's impossible to keep one Chrome or Internet tab open in the background while you do something else. When you go back to the Internet app it has to reload again.
And no custom rom can fix this either. I spent one week with AOSP Vanir rom and didn't had multitasking there either.
What I'm trying to say is that this phone has turned old faster than it should have, precisely because of a bad 4.3 update by Samsung and also just 1GB RAM.
And talking about speed and lag again, trust me, I've tied all the good roms available. It won't matter if you install a custom kernel. If you overclock the phone then battery will last even less than before, and it doesn't make a huge difference in speed animation and fluidity.
I'm sure AOSP roms like CM11 and others do work faster and more fluid in newest phones like G2, SGS4, HTC One, etc. It's because they have a better processor and 2GB RAM.
In the end I think it's the hardware that's to blame for the lag (and bad 4.3 update by Samsung too).
The phone is great otherwise. I love almost everything about it, like I previously said. Most times I can't believe how good the camera is, the screen is enough for me (no need for 1080P), size and weight is perfect, etc.
I would have preferred to own the US SGS3 model with it's 2GB RAM than the EU model. In the long run I think it's better.
But anyway, the lag is not huge, just annoying. And I only notice it when opening and closing apps.
Try entering development settings and change the animator duration scale to 0.5 the transition animation scale to 0.5 and the window animation scale to 0.5
It will make anything faster
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Try entering development settings and change the animator duration scale to 0.5 the transition animation scale to 0.5 and the window animation scale to 0.5
It will make anything faster
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You don't understand it.
It doesn't matter the scale animation (just tried with 0.25, 0.5, 0.75 again), there's still frame drops everywhere.
It doesn't make anything "faster". It's even more annoying watching the frame drops at 0.25.
It's not a solution. There is NO solution to the animation frame drops, not even on custom roms...
Only "solution" is to turn animation scale completely to 0.
I have sgs3 intl and I had a lot of lags and frame drops and I switched to CM 11 nightly and it's became faster and no frame drop and it's like new.
What Android version do you use?
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if you want to have the same camera quality, i suggest you archidroid 1.7.16.
faster rom i ever tried
What lag? My S3 is smmmmoooooooth on CM11
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You don't understand it.
It doesn't matter the scale animation (just tried with 0.25, 0.5, 0.75 again), there's still frame drops everywhere.
It doesn't make anything "faster". It's even more annoying watching the frame drops at 0.25.
It's not a solution. There is NO solution to the animation frame drops, not even on custom roms...
Only "solution" is to turn animation scale completely to 0.
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Alright,my last bet will be to go on Archidroid stock based ROM,use it's own boeffla preset setting and turn animations to 1.5x. Animations will be smooth all around,only custom launcher is needed,because when opening or closing apps on touchwiz,it's still stuttery. I'm still using touchwiz launcher,though (lovely animations all around!).
I noticed 1.0x is the worst speed for animations on stock ROMs. I mean,with 1.0x,I notice some fps drops much more when opening a new windows with animations. Like it's too fast for CPU to tune right time for speed and animation and that makes it laggy. So it's all about wrong timing,as 0.5x also feels much more smoother,it's noticeable.
But the 1.5x setting compensates that. No more stuttery animations at all and it feels pretty beautiful. This was my last solution for stock touchwiz ROM,and I'm pretty happy. Try it yourself.
EDIT: Btw,if you also want to keep touchwiz,try xposed app settings,find there touchwiz launcher and tick the checkbox for "resident" option. That way it will keep the launcher in memory hardly,so when you will go back to launcher , shadows under the icons won't redraw and thus stuttery animations will be reduced and will happen much more rare.
On multitasking, try maximising your swap. Never have problems going from Chrome, email, FB etc. Also try removing apps 'receiver' settings, so they don't open on unlock, wifi connect etc..
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There have been a select FEW roms that solved most of the issues you talking about, but they mostly old and the developers have moved on. The truth is, AOSP kitkat isnt optimized for our phones and you most likely wont find a stock based ROM that doesn't lag. I think the main culprit is Jellybean + Samsung together. I don't ever recall ICS having frame drops or lagging really. Samsung did a crappy job optimizing jellybean for our phone. Jellybean is hardware intensive, more than ICS and Kitkat. Seems like it was a temp solution while Google worked on KitKat and now our phone is unfortunately stuck there.
Do yourself a favor and don't get a Samsung if you want proper performance.