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I've been browing the interwebs today, and I saw a little article about Windows 8. It reminded me that Windows 8 was going to be built from the up to support ARM devices. Given the power of ARM devices now (Tegra 2, OMAP dual-core, Apple A5, etc.) It wouldn't be unfeasible to see this in the future? How many people would like to use Windows 8 instead of webtop mode on the Atrix? I'm just rambling on, but it's a neat thought.
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I've been browing the interwebs today, and I saw a little article about Windows 8. It reminded me that Windows 8 was going to be built from the up to support ARM devices. Given the power of ARM devices now (Tegra 2, OMAP dual-core, Apple A5, etc.) It wouldn't be unfeasible to see this in the future? How many people would like to use Windows 8 instead of webtop mode on the Atrix? I'm just rambling on, but it's a neat thought.
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I think windows phones only support certain drivers for cpus and gpus so if they don't support it I think your SOL regardless of how powerful it is. Kinda how if you bought the best graphics card available but didn't have a driver you might as well have integrated graphics (probably worse than that)
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Double post sorry.
I'm not talking about Windows Phone. Windows Phone 7 is a completely different beast, and I know that mainly Snapdragon CPUs are supported at this time, and probably Adreno 200-205 GPUs.
I'm talking about Windows 8, the next version of windows, slated to come out in maybe 2012, probably 2013.
Here's a link I just searched, can't find the one I originally saw:
http://news.cnet.com/8301-13924_3-20026429-64.html?tag=mncol;9n
If by ARM devices they mean ANY ARM device, then we're in luck. Even if it only supports a certain ARM architecture, Cortex A9 will be fairly prevalent during the time Windows 8 would come out, so it's very likely Tegra 2 would be supported in the OS.
Ohhhh, ok gotcha sorry!
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+1 on topic
+1 on being able to run any version of windows on my atrix lapdock! I've got the debian linux stuff running but I've always had a thing for windows (especially 7 now) and all the programs I run on it. I would surely discard my laptop given the ability to run windows on the lapdock!
I'd love to see a dual boot option once windows 8 does come out
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This would be cool too see, but by the time windows 8 comes out we will all have the next gen Atrix with the tegra3 quadcore or equivalent.
darebear802 said:
+1 on being able to run any version of windows on my atrix lapdock! I've got the debian linux stuff running but I've always had a thing for windows (especially 7 now) and all the programs I run on it. I would surely discard my laptop given the ability to run windows on the lapdock!
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Windows 8 (ARM-build) will not immediately mean you can run any windows programs on it. Programs will have to be compiled for ARM support, just like anything else. It's possible MS may try to streamline it by having some form of on-the-fly x86 emulation but that would be way too demanding for most mobile ARM implementations.
It is unlikely to have many apps or drivers. Open source operating systems are much quicker and easier to port.
Steveg, I think microsoft specifically started that they would not emulate x86 in arm, and that if you wanted a program to work, you had to make sure it compiled in arm.
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Doesn't the webtop work by running an x-server off the existing android kernel and using modified ubuntu components? (I may be entirely wrong on this.)
If so, I we can't use the android kernel to boot Windows and we can't run both kernels concurrently. The only way I see this working is actually booting into a Windows 8 kernel (given Microsoft or more likely nVidia provide drivers), but in that case we wouldn't be running Android and thus probably would be restricted in terms of phone functionality.
Anyone with more webtop experience have any ideas?
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Doesn't the webtop work by running an x-server off the existing android kernel and using modified ubuntu components? (I may be entirely wrong on this.)
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This is correct, except that the Android and Webtop environments both use the same *Linux* kernel.
If you wanted to run Windows 8 on the webtop, you'd have to either run it across the board or run it in some sort of virtualized machine.
Impossible. Won't ever happen. You know how they say there's no such thing as a dumb question? This thread tests that theory. Sorry buddy!
(Why? There's a litany of reasons: no driver support, no access to source code, Windows 8 is very far from being finished, no driver support, I doubt any devs would be willing to take the project, no drivers, and did I mention that the hardware for the Atrix and webtop doesn't have any NT/Windows drivers? )
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Impossible. Won't ever happen. You know how they say there's no such thing as a dumb question? This thread tests that theory. Sorry buddy!
(Why? There's a litany of reasons: no driver support, no access to source code, Windows 8 is very far from being finished, no driver support, I doubt any devs would be willing to take the project, no drivers, and did I mention that the hardware for the Atrix and webtop doesn't have any NT/Windows drivers? )
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Today I will name you "Negative Nancy".
ChumleyEX said:
Today I will name you "Negative Nancy".
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Debbie downer has a point tho
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Debbie downer has a point tho
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true true
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Kal-el is rumored to be the ARM architecture that Microsoft showed off their Windows 8 demos on. nVidia has stated they intend to have ARM chips with Windows 8 support. It's entirely possible that they'll only release Windows 8 drivers for Tegra 3, but I see no reason why anyone can know for sure that nVidia won't provide Tegra 2 driver support. All this talk about it being impossible seems incredibly premature given nVidia's Windows 8 pledge.
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Okay, either you misunderstand me, our you are replying to someone else in this thread. Of course there its no source code yet. It's not finished. I was just throwing out an idea that if nvidia releases the drivers once windows for arm is released, then maybe instead of the linux webtop, we could use the windows 8 environment.
Edit: And the xda app doesn't quote replies.
As for windows 8 being run on I kal el,
yea, that's probably what will end up happening, but hey, we can dream, right?
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paravorheim said:
Okay, either you misunderstand me, our you are replying to someone else in this thread. Of course there its no source code yet. It's not finished. I was just throwing out an idea that if nvidia releases the drivers once windows for arm is released, then maybe instead of the linux webtop, we could use the windows 8 environment.
Edit: And the xda app doesn't quote replies.
As for windows 8 being run on I kal el,
yea, that's probably what will end up happening, but hey, we can dream, right?
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There's no source code yet? yet? it will never be! MS won't release its main product source code. It's just impossible, or totally impractical. I don't know if developers would be interested on this.
Wrong: CYANOGENMOD 7 RELEASED, HARMONY SUPPORT, DIDN'T NOTICE ANY POSTS REFERING TO IT
Right: CM7 was released, with Harmony support.
Wrong: SHAME THAT NVIDIA ARE NOT SUPPORTING DEVELOPMENT FOR HARMONY CHIP FROM 2.2 ONWARDS IF REPORTS ARE TRUE
Right: It's a shame that nVidia isn't supporting Harmony developers from 2.2 onwards, if reports are true.
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Yes if you actually look at the other CM7 threads you will see that the Vega changes have been added to the official tree now.....
and how can you go and say that we have cm7 (2.3) and then complain about the lack of nvidia support beyond 2.2 in the same post, completely contradicts itself....
but doesnt the tegra 2 already power a bunch of honeycomb tablets already?
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but doesnt the tegra 2 already power a bunch of honeycomb tablets already?
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there are two types of tegra 2 boards, Harmony which the vega has supported to android 2.2 and Ventana which the xoom has, supported beyond 2.2
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Also, thank you Lennyuk for your expertise. I actually wasn't aware of the two Tegra 2 revisions. What are the differences between Harmony and Ventana?
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Useless posts removed, OP reformatted. All caps is just annoying.
Also, thank you Lennyuk for your expertise. I actually wasn't aware of the two Tegra 2 revisions. What are the differences between Harmony and Ventana?
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as far as I know there is not actually a great deal of differences between the two, I think the ventana board has an extra GPU slot, that might be it.
Lennyuk said:
as far as I know there is not actually a great deal of differences between the two, I think the ventana board has an extra GPU slot, that might be it.
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Interesting. I wonder why that would be since these SOCs don't have modular components, with the GPU being directly integrated into the SOC itself... Weird.
UPDATE 12 APRIL 2011:
Sorry folks looks like I caused a bit of confusion. Since this is a developer forum my comments
were targeted at Tegra Honeycomb developers and for this we’d like to focus on Ventana. For shipping or production products, customers should contact the device makers directly for OS support plans. They are responsible for the OS shipping on their device.
In relation to our linux kernel git repository, NVIDIA will continue to provide full open-source support for all of our kernel components and will push more of that upstream over time.
Andrew Edelsten
Tegra Developer Relations
NVIDIA CorporationTop
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Interesting update something for developers to get teeth into sometime
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haha to right
UPDATE 13 APRIL 2011
A lot has been read into a very short post about a Tegra development kit. I'd like to clear up a few points.
First, nothing changes in what we’re delivering to the open source community or customers. NVIDIA will continue to post the Tegra kernel to kernel.org and publish our Android code to our public git servers. Additionally, we will continue to make our BSP (codecs, GPU driver etc) available to all our hardware partners. We will continue to do this and nothing about these processes has changed.
For our partners' Android devices, NVIDIA provides support until the hardware partner chooses to no longer support the device. So, for instance, NVIDIA will support the Xoom on all versions of Android Motorola requests until Motorola ceases to support the Xoom. The same goes for ViewSonic with the G-Tablet, Notion Ink with the Adam, Acer with the Iconia, LG with the Optimus 2X and so on.
In relation to my original reply, that was a response to a specific question about a Tegra 250 Development Kit. Given the confusion, we will work with owners of Tegra 250 Development Kits individually to determine their needs. The term "Harmony" is an internal codename for the Tegra 250 Development Kit. It is not a tablet reference design. Each shipping tablet is a custom design with varying hardware components and requires a custom OS image from the OEM who made the tablet.
Finally, while we cannot support or give out third party peripheral drivers or provide the Android 3.0 source before Google does, we do want to explore whether we can assist the open source ROM makers. We will be reaching out to them today.
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Caps from original nvidia forum post.
Stop being so anal anyway
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Can anyone translate this for me? Are we (Advent Vega users) getting the Tegra 2 update? And is this the one for Honeycomb?
From what I can tell, Yes. Or am I reading this wrong?
GaiusSensei said:
Can anyone translate this for me? Are we (Advent Vega users) getting the Tegra 2 update? And is this the one for Honeycomb?
From what I can tell, Yes. Or am I reading this wrong?
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There is no "Tegra 2" Update
You are getting confused.
Basically when the Tegra2 boards were given to manufacturers they had one of two designs
Harmony which the vega has
or Ventana which newer tablets have
These are not set in stone, they were just designs that then get built to specific needs by each manufacturer.
Nvidia are not releasing their own stock images beyond android 2.2 for Harmony however they have made it very clear that it is down to each manufacturer to do this, Nvidia will support the manufacturers for as long as they want to continue service on each device.
Advent do not yet know if the manufacturer (Shuttle) will give us a HC rom, however at least 2 other clones of the Vega have confirmed it, so it looks promising.
Point of View is supposed to deliver us a fresh HC ROM, I would be really thankful!
All I need is a rom w/o cellphone stuff, just tablet things to work always with optimizations and no slow downs.. That's why I bought a tablet with tegra... but after news like this, customers like me get pretty sad and will regret buying another device from them. Gz;
Being released by NVIDIA this afternoon is the Tegra 12 Alpha 1 Linux release. This is a Linux software release intended for developers using NVIDIA's Tegra 2 platform.
The NVIDIA Tegra Linux 12 Alpha 1 release is based on the Linux 2.6.38 kernel and is derived from Ubuntu. Graphics standards supported by this Tegra-ified Ubuntu release include OpenGL ES 1.1/2.0, EGL 1.3, OpenMAX IL 1.1, and RandR 1.3.
For those interested in Linux for Tegra 12 Alpha 1, the relevant links are available from this forum thread.
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O.... so this replaced webtop? (or might/will?)
Edit: We don't have the Tegra 250 chip, I think we have have the Tegra 200 chip... the driver package is for 250.
Mgamerz said:
O.... so this replaced webtop? (or might/will?)
Edit: We don't have the Tegra 250 chip, I think we have have the Tegra 200 chip... the driver package is for 250.
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The changelog says it supports the 200 series.
Nice but this belongs in the General forum.
If you didn't create it, it doesn't belong in development. It's a nice sticky that is on other devices' development forum and i think it applies here as well.
franciscojavierleon said:
Nice but this belongs in the General forum.
If you didn't create it, it doesn't belong in development. It's a nice sticky that is on other devices' development forum and i think it applies here as well.
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You are probably right, I got overly excited and posted it here, please move to it the appropriate forum.
Cheers
I also think this belongs in general but here is a actual link to the official site @ nvidia
http://developer.nvidia.com/content/linux-tegra-release-12-alpha-1-released
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The changelog says it supports the 200 series.
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But it looks like the Alpha Release only supports Tegra 250 "Harmony".
Taking directly from the Release Notes,
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Note: This alpha release of Tegra Linux Driver Package (L4T.ER1 ) is a
release for Tegra 250 “Harmony” only. The information in these release
notes is preliminary
According to pdadb.net Atrix has Tegra 2 250 chip, also wikipedia says it has Tegra 250 AP20H (H stands for Harmony?)
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According to pdadb.net Atrix has Tegra 2 250 chip, also wikipedia says it has Tegra 250 AP20H (H stands for Harmony?)
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That is correct. There is no Tegra 200.
The Tegra 250 AP20H is the chip used in phones, Tegra 250 T20 is used in tablets. As far as I can tell, the biggest difference between the two SoCs is that the Geforce ULP GPU is clocked higher on the tablets (333mhz vs 300).
So this could be huge for WebTop?
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So this could be huge for WebTop?
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Possibly... but to be honest, I'm not willing to give up Flash to go up to 11.04, let alone things like the Android-In-Window functionality. Updated versions of those are a lot harder to get. It might be able to get an updated Flash if we could find a Linux-based device out there that we could hack, but the others...? Good luck.
I'll be trying an upgrade to Ubuntu 10.04 at some later point in time, but I can't make any promises that it will succeed.
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Possibly... but to be honest, I'm not willing to give up Flash to go up to 11.04, let alone things like the Android-In-Window functionality. Updated versions of those are a lot harder to get. It might be able to get an updated Flash if we could find a Linux-based device out there that we could hack, but the others...? Good luck.
I'll be trying an upgrade to Ubuntu 10.04 at some later point in time, but I can't make any promises that it will succeed.
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So flash is not available in 11.04?
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So flash is not available in 11.04?
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NVIDIA might provide one to some of its OEM/ODM customers, but I don't think they publicly distribute Flash for public consumption. I expect it'll be the same in this case - if we could somehow get our hands on a leak of Flash for Ubuntu 10.10 or 11.04, we might be able to get something working, but otherwise, we're pretty much out of luck.
Depending on what kind of performance gains there are, this could be awesome. Although you wouldn't directly replace it, you'd be better off making a custom "distro" for the atrix using bits and pieces from webtop and combining them with the nvidia build.
Does anyone know exactly how the webtop environment boots? Important thing being the kernel. If it runs similar to a chroot you'd need a custom kernel as well.
Look up tegra on wikipedia we have 200 it says.
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http://crap.muromec.org.ua/ac100/debian/2011-04-18/
http://markit.dyndns.org/ac100/
http://crap.muromec.org.ua/ac100/
http://paulfedora.wordpress.com/
http://ac100.163.ru/firmware/ubuntu/rootfs_11_04.tar.gz
theirs no massive difference between 200 and 250 as far as i know
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http://crap.muromec.org.ua/ac100/debian/2011-04-18/
http://markit.dyndns.org/ac100/
http://crap.muromec.org.ua/ac100/
http://paulfedora.wordpress.com/
http://ac100.163.ru/firmware/ubuntu/rootfs_11_04.tar.gz
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What is all this?
Debian arm. Nvidia is optimizing for tegra (gpu driver included)... not just arm
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theirs no massive difference between 200 and 250 as far as i know
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There's no such thing as a Tegra 200 chip! Whenever it is referred to that way it is the because it's part of the 200 SERIES. Each being near identical with different clock speeds and possible some specific optimisations for the 3D models.
The Atrix has a Tegra 250 AP20H.
I have no idea how to do this, but I thought that maybe now with the Windows 8 Developer Preview being available for free download without activation, somebody might be able to work on a port of this to the Xoom.
Because Windows 8 is supposed to be built around the idea of running it on multi-touch screens, I think the Xoom would be the perfect candidate.
If anyone wants to try this and wants to put in the coding effort, I will help however I can.
They haven't released the Arm compatible version yet. There is only 32bit (x86), vanilla 64 bit, and a 64 dev version available for download so far.
Microsoft has stated that there is no ARM support in the dev preview, so were gonna have to wait till at least a beta comes out.
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Now are the arm images designed the same way as the android images are in terms of software hardware meshing?
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Now I know nothing about this beyond the fact that porting the ARM version over the x86 version would be significantly easier (and probably the only port that would work).
So am I right in assuming that if there is an ARM release some point soon, that it could, given the right amount of time, definitely be ported to run on our Devices?
Completely forgot about the ARM situation. I agree, hopefully they will release the ARM source in beta rather than waiting until the RCs or Finals.
If the ARM edition is released in .IMG format it may be possible with Fastboot. I would think that since LIV2 was able to boot into Debian in this post : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1138661 it would be rather similar to do.
^^ You are right..... However the main problem will be trying to shoehorn a full windows OS into our limited system partition, one would assume that at least a gigabyte would be required for a full install......
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win 8 on a samsung tab http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XxJQotodEVQ&feature=player_embedded
i would be very interested in this... moreover it would be awesome as dual boots.... i really enjoy honeycomb and android is awesome... but windows/ubuntu dual boot along side it will be the ultimate machine lol
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win 8 on a samsung tab http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XxJQotodEVQ&feature=player_embedded
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Be careful with that...... It's not a galaxy tab 10.1 as evidenced by the windows button at the bottom. I'm still going to say its gonna be really difficult to run win8 nativley on our limited internal storage, that's not to say we couldn't run it off an SD card though....... Witch could actually be the best of both worlds, dual booting between android and win8 sounds pretty cool.
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One thing people seem to forget is that it's closed source. You know, there's a reason that Windows Phone 7 isn't ported to Android-devices yet (same for WebOS). It's because it's closed source.
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One thing people seem to forget is that it's closed source. You know, there's a reason that Windows Phone 7 isn't ported to Android-devices yet (same for WebOS). It's because it's closed source.
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Not to mention all of the drivers that we would have to develop or modify any "generic" drivers that are included in the windows 8 release to work on our xooms
but what I would like to say is that once we have a ARM version of win 8, I want ALL of our Devs working on this.
I don't think any dev will pick this up. I mean, look at the Ubuntu-thread. Ubuntu is open source and almost all other HC-tablets have an Ubuntu-port now, yet the Xoom still hasn't. So if they don't care for open source Ubuntu, then I don't think any dev will try closed source Win8.
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Be careful with that...... It's not a galaxy tab 10.1 as evidenced by the windows button at the bottom. I'm still going to say its gonna be really difficult to run win8 nativley on our limited internal storage, that's not to say we couldn't run it off an SD card though....... Witch could actually be the best of both worlds, dual booting between android and win8 sounds pretty cool.
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i understand, it says in the title of video samsung t700 tablet, i know it's not the galaxy tab
i blame the high price of the xoom. Nobody who WOULD be able to provide dev work probably can't afford to purchase one. Most other tablets are 100 dollars or more cheaper
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i blame the high price of the xoom. Nobody who WOULD be able to provide dev work probably can't afford to purchase one. Most other tablets are 100 dollars or more cheaper
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The Galaxy Tab already has an Ubuntu-port and more ROMS available. Still, the price is the same as the Xoom's price. Even the Acer Iconia has more ROMS and stuff and yes, it's cheaper, but worldwide more Xoom's have been sold then the Acer-ones. So that is quite strange.
As far as I know, Broadcom promised to get android on our small little computer Raspberry Pi but their is no news of it till now
So I started this thread to discuss all the possible ways to Port Android to RasPi
Project Name: IncrediPi
This thread on MADTeam Forums: http://madteam.co/forum/development-106/(discussion)-incredipi-porting-android-for-raspberry-pi/
This thread here on XDA: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2321557
Rules of this thread:
No spamming and No Flaming
No Fights to be continued here
Abuse/Disrespect towards newbies or any member!
Use only english
Help each other with problems
One of my uncles also has RasPi and he knows hell lot of knowledge in Programming!
Biggest problem we will see in this project is hardware drivers... Broadcom is kinda closed source I remember how my devices Galaxy Y got a semi-stable CM... Galaxy Y uses Broacom so I know the pain when we started developing xD
I hope we can see Android Running on Pi Someday :fingers-crossed:
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http://www.raspberrypi.org/archives/tag/android
http://androidpi.wikia.com/wiki/Android_Pi_Wiki
http://www.linuxtoday.com/upload/bu...-based-raspberry-pi-station-130528005512.html
Will update this thread with more such links everyday
ALSO SEE: I am not a developer, Just trying to gather information from people
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I just saw this: https://github.com/raspberrypi/firmware/issues/70
He says he got the system booting fine but due to the lack of egl drivers the h/w isn't accelerating... I'll catch hold of that guy! I hope we are able to make it work
I was after this also, in what i can help let me know.
Also, at this moment the main issue is the broadcom driver,!!
Br
M3mn0t
m3mn0t said:
I was after this also, in what i can help let me know.
Also, at this moment the main issue is the broadcom driver,!!
Br
M3mn0t
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Yes, I also own a Galaxy Y which uses similar GPU and CPU! It took 2000+ Signs in a petition for them to provide us test egl binaries! I hope with the same method broadcom will release drivers for Pi
I will never loose hope
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Last update from raspberry pi was at july 2012....almost a year ago.I think its time to broadcom provide that drivers. I will get more inside this subject, broadcom drivers, them i will try something, also it would be perfect that some developers get into this thread.
Br
Arnav.G said:
Yes, I also own a Galaxy Y which uses similar GPU and CPU! It took 2000+ Signs in a petition for them to provide us test egl binaries! I hope with the same method broadcom will release drivers for Pi
I will never loose hope
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m3mn0t said:
Last update from raspberry pi was at july 2012....almost a year ago.I think its time to broadcom provide that drivers. I will get more inside this subject, broadcom drivers, them i will try something, also it would be perfect that some developers get into this thread.
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Yeah....
I am studying C right now...
Also, Please some developers needed here
Ok!
I was working on a Website for this project and its nearly complete....
I will share it here!
Also, I have started looking into other porting processes! Just like HTC HD2 has so many OS's RasPi will also have
What version of android does your Uncle have running?
There have been cyanogenmod 7 running on the Raspberry Pi for a while without any hardware acceleration, the main problem developers are having are getting anything above android 4.0 running without hardware acceleration.
dombeef said:
What version of android does your Uncle have running?
There have been cyanogenmod 7 running on the Raspberry Pi for a while without any hardware acceleration, the main problem developers are having are getting anything above android 4.0 running without hardware acceleration.
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Can you link me to CynogenMod 7 for Pi?
For EGL Libs we have to start a petition against broadcom asking for the drivers But unfortunately we have to!
This is something that i have to dig deep before start anything, because i want to understand very well every aspect of this project.
What confuses me is, if there is already an arm 6 cellphone android with the same broadcom chip for graphics, why we cannot start from there?!! keep in mind the raspberry pi uses the same arm 6 cpu \ broadcom gpu
Br
Arnav.G said:
Can you link me to CynogenMod 7 for Pi?
For EGL Libs we have to start a petition against broadcom asking for the drivers But unfortunately we have to!
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m3mn0t said:
This is something that i have to dig deep before start anything, because i want to understand very well every aspect of this project.
What confuses me is, if there is already an arm 6 cellphone android with the same broadcom chip for graphics, why we cannot start from there?!!
Br
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Main problem is that no manufacturer except samsung provides Broacom chip on their phones!
also, In my country Pi is out of stock :/
The closest Armv6 Phone which uses Broadcom chip is Galaxy Y and it has a quite similar GPU and CPU as compared to that of in Pi! *I HAVE THIS DEVICE*
But I am not sure if we can engineer its drivers to make it work with Pi!
Also we struggled alot to get a semi stable CyanogenMod 7!
UPDATE :victory:
I was going through MADTeam Forums and then saw a post on Raspberry Pi Opensource GPU Drivers!
http://www.raspberrypi.org/archives/2221
That means we still have hopes on getting it Stable!
Before we start we need to make a proper device tree! I'll be sending PM's to some BCM Devs
Arnav.G said:
Main problem is that no manufacturer except samsung provides Broacom chip on their phones!
also, In my country Pi is out of stock :/
The closest Armv6 Phone which uses Broadcom chip is Galaxy Y and it has a quite similar GPU and CPU as compared to that of in Pi! *I HAVE THIS DEVICE*
But I am not sure if we can engineer its drivers to make it work with Pi!
Also we struggled alot to get a semi stable CyanogenMod 7!
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Here in portugal, You can find it anywhere eheheh, the 512 mb ram version. Now what i will search and understand is, if we have a gingerbread version already working in a raspberry pi, but without any hw accelaration, maybe with the original firmware from galaxy Y we can start work with the broadcom driver, do you see the light at the end of the tunel?!
Br
m3mn0t said:
Here in portugal, You can find it anywhere eheheh, the 512 mb ram version. Now what i will search and understand is, if we have a gingerbread version already working in a raspberry pi, but without any hw accelaration, maybe with the original firmware from galaxy Y we can start work with the broadcom driver, do you see the light at the end of the tunel?!
Br
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I didn't get you :/
Anyways I shared the Opensource GPU Drivers! I still have hope that we can get HW Acceleration done in Gingerbread but I don't know about ICS or JB4.1/4.2
Arnav.G said:
Can you link me to CynogenMod 7 for Pi?
For EGL Libs we have to start a petition against broadcom asking for the drivers But unfortunately we have to!
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Just a little googling will get you them: Android on the Raspberry Pi.
But you still didnt answer my question of what your uncle's Pi was running. He might just be running android 2.3 which has been released by developers for a while now.
dombeef said:
Just a little googling will get you them: Android on the Raspberry Pi.
But you still didnt answer my question of what your uncle's Pi was running. He might just be running android 2.3 which has been released by developers for a while now.
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Nopes....
My Uncle bought a RasPi for Google Lunar XPrize! If you don't know what is that then: "Its a mission for teams all over the world to send a robot to the moon and make it run for 500 meters on the surface of the moon! They are making parts of the sensors of the robot with RasPi I am a small part of it "
Arnav.G said:
I am studying C right now...
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I'm sure you will be able to provide us nice stuff then!
galaxyfreak said:
I'm sure you will be able to provide us nice stuff then!
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I'll give my best
Any progress with the build and anywhere to snatch a copy?
Im building my own set of smart glasses and was hoping to run the UI on my Raspberry Pi. If I cant I will have to just run it over a series of adaptors from my S3 to the glasses.
I need Android running well enough to voice search, Bluetooth to a Mini Rii and receive messages via ZipWhip.
Am I too early to this party?
Are there any dates for the first stable release that we can test it ?
Anything new?