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I'll have the aussie model in couple of days and I want to flash a stock ROM from a different region onto it (to bypass some of the dumb lock downs the aussie one has...)
Questions:
Will this trigger the knox warranty e fuse flag?
And
Will i then need worry about regional locks?
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Also keen to know as well. I've seen some people say yes and others say no.
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I *think* its ok, provided the firmware you're loading isn't an older one than what you already have.
Even more sure if you don't have a knox firmware currently...
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I asked the question in another thread and got two different answers so I wanted to see if anyone tried it.
This one said yes:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=46122037#post46122037
This one said no:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=46247553#post46247553
I've also got an Australian Note 3 and in the past with my previous phones (Note 2 and S4) I flashed the UK stock ROM to get around the restrictions imposed on the Australian ROM. Before I do it again, I want to see if someone has tried it without any negative impact.
I started a previous thread with this question:
"I have a Note 3 n9005 XXUBMI7 firmware with csc N9005XSABMI1 (Australia) - unlocked, no carrier.
Will the Omega ROM V1.0 work on my phone (ie will, it support English(Australia)?)"
I am interested (ultimately) in experimenting with custom roms - as I did in my previous Note 1. This process will require a root and TWRP/CWM and will almost certainly void warranty because Knox Security digit will be set from 0 to 1 - unless someone finds a workaround.
What I am not sure about is the region coding - it seems that Samsung has a firmware version for every region (Australia is XSA)
playdough said:
I started a previous thread with this question:
"I have a Note 3 n9005 XXUBMI7 firmware with csc N9005XSABMI1 (Australia) - unlocked, no carrier.
Will the Omega ROM V1.0 work on my phone (ie will, it support English(Australia)?)"
I am interested (ultimately) in experimenting with custom roms - as I did in my previous Note 1. This process will require a root and TWRP/CWM and will almost certainly void warranty because Knox Security digit will be set from 0 to 1 - unless someone finds a workaround.
What I am not sure about is the region coding - it seems that Samsung has a firmware version for every region (Australia is XSA)
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All I know is that after being boot looped, I was able to load the mexican firmware... but then after trying to flash SuperSU, which caused nothing but bugs, I tried to reinstall that same firmware and got another boot loop. I am now unable to install any available n900w8 firmware successfully. Some type of flag has been triggered on my phone that's preventing me from using a stock kernel/firmware... that's all I know.
Apra24 said:
All I know is that after being boot looped, I was able to load the mexican firmware... but then after trying to flash SuperSU, which caused nothing but bugs, I tried to reinstall that same firmware and got another boot loop. I am now unable to install any available n900w8 firmware successfully. Some type of flag has been triggered on my phone that's preventing me from using a stock kernel/firmware... that's all I know.
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I'm pretty sure that Samsung's strategy is to make their devices a Samsung managed (and standardised) product (ala Apple and Microsoft) by locking owners into their firmware and even going beyond with region control. The only options, I believe, are either to stick with them at their behest or void warranty and support for personal freedom of choice. My view is that if software does not physically damage a device then I should be entitled to warranty claim if there is a manufacturing fault.
I was really referring to stock ROMs rather than custom.
Custom ROMs will flip the Knox switch.
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Do not try and flash stock firmware from another region. It will not trigger the knox flag but the flash will fail in Odin and then you'll have to flash back the correct stock firmware for your region in order to be able to boot the phone again. The only way around it is to install a custom recovery and flash modified firmware which definitely will trigger the Knox flag.
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dr.m0x said:
Do not try and flash stock firmware from another region. It will not trigger the knox flag but the flash will fail in Odin and then you'll have to flash back the correct stock firmware for your region in order to be able to boot the phone again. The only way around it is to install a custom recovery and flash modified firmware which definitely will trigger the Knox flag.
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The mexican stock for sm-n900w8 went through fine as a Bell/Canadian user... but only the first time. I tried it because there are no Bell firmwares available. After trying to flash SuperSU, and having it crash constantly, causing me to re-flash the firmware.. it no longer worked.
Apra24 said:
The mexican stock for sm-n900w8 went through fine as a Bell/Canadian user... but only the first time. I tried it because there are no Bell firmwares available. After trying to flash SuperSU, and having it crash constantly, causing me to re-flash the firmware.. it no longer worked.
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If your Knox flag is already set you may as well try the custom recovery and ROM option since it sounds like your phone is buggered.
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Got the same question, I want to switch from the swiss unlocked (AUT) stock rom to either the german (DBT) or UK (BTU) one. I even compared the files of the AUT and DBT tar.md5 and only cache.img.ext4 and hidden.img.ext4 are different, all others a binary identical.
Could I limit Odin to only exchange those two data files and nothing else?
In Android-Hilfe.de an User tried it..
First he had Vodafone Branding, then he flashed the Open Germany Firmware.. Without Problems.. Knox is still 0x0
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My EE (UK) SM-N9005 CSC is N9005EVRBMI2 and I've just used Odin v3.09 to flash the KIES ROM with the CSC N9005OXABMI6 (same as SIM-free phones).
Knox warranty is still 0x0
Apra24 said:
All I know is that after being boot looped, I was able to load the mexican firmware... but then after trying to flash SuperSU, which caused nothing but bugs, I tried to reinstall that same firmware and got another boot loop. I am now unable to install any available n900w8 firmware successfully. Some type of flag has been triggered on my phone that's preventing me from using a stock kernel/firmware... that's all I know.
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You've probably set the reactivation lock enabled, therefore stopping the restore
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dehaani said:
My EE (UK) SM-N9005 CSC is N9005EVRBMI2 and I've just used Odin v3.09 to flash the KIES ROM with the CSC N9005OXABMI6 (same as SIM-free phones).
Knox warranty is still 0x0
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I had to do a device wipe from recovery menu to reset the CSC from EVR to BTU.
Then I got the FOTA update to MJ1 so it seemed like my phone is now indistinguishable from a SIM-free device but...
Kies still knows something's up. It reports the CSC as BTU but says "Your device's current firmware version is not supported to update firmware via Kies".
I wonder how Kies knows? Any ideas?
I found a local user that has been able to do this successfully
Used this Firmware:
N9005XXUBMI7_N9005OJVBMI2_XSI.zip
http://www.sammobile.com/firmwares/1/?model=SM-N9005&pcode=XSI#firmware
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-..._A/E3sK9J9W9L0/w831-h661-no/note3firmware.png
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I found a local user that has been able to do this successfully
Used this Firmware:
N9005XXUBMI7_N9005OJVBMI2_XSI.zip
http://www.sammobile.com/firmwares/1/?model=SM-N9005&pcode=XSI#firmware
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-..._A/E3sK9J9W9L0/w831-h661-no/note3firmware.png
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Does he still have HD Voice with that firmware?
Will endeavour to find out... How does one check?
(still waiting on my unit to turn up :-[)
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senectus said:
Will endeavour to find out... How does one check?
(still waiting on my unit to turn up :-[)
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Nevermind. I've taken the plunge and trying it. I'll report back.
---------- Post added at 04:28 PM ---------- Previous post was at 03:53 PM ----------
Ok.
I flashed the latest Unknown Country ROM (XSI) from SamMobile which was "N9005XXUBMJ1_N9005OJVBMI2_XSI". Originally, I was running a Vodafone Australia ROM (VAU).
I used ODIN 3.04 and reset the device in recovery after the ROM was updated.
The CSC is now XSI and the KNOX warranty trigger is 0x0 (Woohoo)!
With the new ROM, it also bypassed all the Australian restrictions. These were:
- Unable to change dock applications
- No auto rotate in gallery
- Unable to silence camera shutter
- Shortcuts not available as an option on lock screen
HD Voice is also still working.
Hi guys
I wanted to try X-Note on my Note 3 which was Stock rooted MJ7.
So first I used kn0x0ut to do a backup of System, Data and EFS, then went ahead and installed X-Note, did the usual data/cache/dalvik wipes which the script does.
That didn't go too well, for some reason I got a boot loop, not like I have now, but where it wouldn't even get to the OOB wizard.
So I decided to just restore the backup I made, which also didn't appear to go very well because now I have a phone which is acting very strangely.
After the restore screwed up, I used ODIN to restore my original MJ1 ROM. Previously, I had gone from Stock MJ1 to Rooted MJ1 with RDLV, then updated to MJ7 via Mobile Odin Pro.
Basically what's happening now, is it will boot up to the OOB wizard, then I'll get a message that says "Process system has stopped responding", usually followed by "Samsung keyboard has closed".
Wifi doesn't work, it says I don't have any sim card installed and my baseband is "unknown". I've only got about 20 seconds to look around before it will reboot. Most apps that I try to open like the dialler just FC as soon as they open.
What I've done so far (which I REALLY wanted to avoid) is installed TWRP so I could at least flash something else, not via ODIN or Kn0x0ut (which I will NOT be using again!). I managed to restore the EFS using dd but it didn't appear to do anything. I've also tried this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2507403 - that didn't help either.
I'm pretty stuck now, since I have a voided warranty and no usable phone....
Any help would be great, I really need to get this thing working again!
Your fault was to try to flash mj1, even if u had mj7 before.
Try to flash mj7 or mk2 with odin and you shd be fine.
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Killberty said:
Your fault was to try to flash mj1, even if u had mj7 before.
Try to flash mj7 or mk2 with odin and you shd be fine.
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I had that brainwave myself this morning.
I guess mj7 upgrades the efs in some way that's incompatible with mj1?
I did try xnote mk2 and got the same issue, but that's obviously not stock, so I'll get mj7 and mk2 stock downloaded and give it a go.
Cheers!
Sam00r said:
I had that brainwave myself this morning.
I guess mj7 upgrades the efs in some way that's incompatible with mj1?
I did try xnote mk2 and got the same issue, but that's obviously not stock, so I'll get mj7 and mk2 stock downloaded and give it a go.
Cheers!
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Haha report back your results
hit 'thanks' if i helped you
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Killberty said:
Haha report back your results
hit 'thanks' if i helped you
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With our powers combined! It worked mate
Cheers! Where's the thanks button? Maybe it doesn't show cause this is like my third post ever...
I'm guessing then that the device needs to be on the same level as any custom rom that I want to install, and if I want to upgrade to a higher level I will need to flash stock first?
Sam00r said:
With our powers combined! It worked mate
Cheers! Where's the thanks button? Maybe it doesn't show cause this is like my third post ever...
I'm guessing then that the device needs to be on the same level as any custom rom that I want to install, and if I want to upgrade to a higher level I will need to flash stock first?
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Yes u will have to flash stock before cuz some files arent overwritten.
Thanks button pc:left bottom corner
Thanks button app: tap the post u wanna thank
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Hi, I am a total noob in the area of updating my Note 3, so please guide me.
I want to update my Note 3 with the official firmware of Poland through Kies or Odin ( I know how to do that)
But one thing I'm afraid of and don't know is whether I will lose all my data (apps OR Phone data) if I update through Odin or not?
Just a note, I am trying to keep my Note 3 totally unrooted, untampered with in any other way. So will updating through Odin also increase my Knox number?
Thanks.
Best regards
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Jamal Ahmed said:
Hi, I am a total noob in the area of updating my Note 3, so please guide me.
I want to update my Note 3 with the official firmware of Poland through Kies or Odin ( I know how to do that)
But one thing I'm afraid of and don't know is whether I will lose all my data (apps OR Phone data) if I update through Odin or not?
Just a note, I am trying to keep my Note 3 totally unrooted, untampered with in any other way. So will updating through Odin also increase my Knox number?
Thanks.
Best regards
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Via ODIN will wipe your data/factory reset. -- Via KIES off the top of my head I cannot remember as it's been a while since I used it.
Official firmware will not trip your KNOX, and has been confirmed safe also/
radicalisto said:
Via ODIN will wipe your data/factory reset. -- Via KIES off the top of my head I cannot remember as it's been a while since I used it.
Official firmware will not trip your KNOX, and has been confirmed safe also/
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how about mobile odin?
I assume it wont work cos the new android version need new bootloader. just waiting for someone to confirm~
uccoffee.forum said:
how about mobile odin?
I assume it wont work cos the new android version need new bootloader. just waiting for someone to confirm~
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You 100% need the new bootloader for it to work and even boot properly, and you will lose root. MOP won't work.
Anyone thinks android 4.4.2 can be falshed with mop, keeping 0x0 root and it will start withthe old bootloader?
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I wouldn't try flashing kitkat with mobile Odin right now. I think the app needs to be updated for kitkat. It soft bricked my phone when I tried but pc Odin worked fine.
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Hi,
Wondered if someone could please help, as I wish to root without tripping knox, as it's important I have secured work emails.
Just upgraded from Xperia Z, and got experience of rooting that in various ways, along with rooting other Android phones. However, been a while since I had a Samsung phone, but not had one with knox before.
Phone has come with the following firmware:
PDA: N9005XXUBMI7
Phone: N9005XXUBMI6
CSC: N9005VFGBMI1
I've done loads of reading on the subject, and appears that I can use Root de la Vega universal 0.5 without tripping knox with the above firmware.
Could someone please confirm what I believe that it's possible to root the above firmware without tripping root?
Assuming that it is possible, Vodafone have also issued the following firmware update, which I've downloaded to pc from SamMobile, but not yet installed:
N9005XXUDMJ6_N9005VFGDMJ1_VOD
Is there a way I can then flash this update, say with Odin, without tripping root?
Really appreciate any assistance thanks
You can root mi7 without tripping knox using urdlv, then upgrade to your latest vodafone software using mobile odin pro, keeing your root and your knox 0x0
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Hi Killberty,
Really appreciate your response thanks.
Once rooted with URDLV, would I then upgrade with Odin Pro as per the instructions here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2522729
Many thanks again.
Killberty said:
You can root mi7 without tripping knox using urdlv, then upgrade to your latest vodafone software using mobile odin pro, keeing your root and your knox 0x0
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Hi,
Does anyone else know the answer to the above please?
Many thanks
LEGGYMAMBO said:
Hi Killberty,
Really appreciate your response thanks.
Once rooted with URDLV, would I then upgrade with Odin Pro as per the instructions here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2522729
Many thanks again.
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Yep, this is what I've done. I had a locked vodafone uk N9005 with MI7 initially. I urdlv to root. Then mop only to MJ7.
Note if you want to flash kitkat U'll need to use MOP 4.00 to flash rom and pc odin to flash bootloader only.
I'm still knox 0x0 & have root.
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LEGGYMAMBO said:
...
I've done loads of reading on the subject, and appears that I can use Root de la Vega universal 0.5 without tripping knox with the above firmware.
Could someone please confirm what I believe that it's possible to root the above firmware without tripping root?
...
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If you mean "without tripping Knox" - the answer is yes, it should work with URDLV.
LEGGYMAMBO said:
...
Assuming that it is possible, Vodafone have also issued the following firmware update, which I've downloaded to pc from SamMobile, but not yet installed:
N9005XXUDMJ6_N9005VFGDMJ1_VOD
Is there a way I can then flash this update, say with Odin, without tripping root?
...
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Again - "without tripping Knox" - yes, but not with Odin but instead much easier with a program called Mobile Odin Pro - see the detailed thread on that here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2522729
(in theory I do not like paid hacking programs but that one is an exception since it is from Chainfire and buying it is a way to encourage him to keep doing great hacks for the community).
Many thanks for your reply dsm52!!
I'm now rooted using URDLV, ready for the next process.
Is the following file classed as MJ6 or MJ1, as it appears Vodafone UK haven't released MJ7?!
N9005XXUDMJ6_N9005VFGDMJ1_VOD
The reason I ask, is because the following thread states "UNSUCCESSFUL ROOT :MJ6 and later":
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2522729
In addition, do you mind me asking which version of KK you've used, as Vodafone UK haven't released this yet?
I need to retain knox 0x0
Many thanks again
dsm52 said:
Yep, this is what I've done. I had a locked vodafone uk N9005 with MI7 initially. I urdlv to root. Then mop only to MJ7.
Note if you want to flash kitkat U'll need to use MOP 4.00 to flash rom and pc odin to flash bootloader only.
I'm still knox 0x0 & have root.
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Hi xclub_101,
Many thanks for your reply. Aye, I did mean "without tripping knox", doh!!
Bought MOP as a big fan of the work and help produced by Chainfire.
Cheers
xclub_101 said:
If you mean "without tripping Knox" - the answer is yes, it should work with URDLV.
Again - "without tripping Knox" - yes, but not with Odin but instead much easier with a program called Mobile Odin Pro - see the detailed thread on that here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2522729
(in theory I do not like paid hacking programs but that one is an exception since it is from Chainfire and buying it is a way to encourage him to keep doing great hacks for the community).
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LEGGYMAMBO said:
Many thanks for your reply dsm52!!
I'm now rooted using URDLV, ready for the next process.
Is the following file classed as MJ6 or MJ1, as it appears Vodafone UK haven't released MJ7?!
N9005XXUDMJ6_N9005VFGDMJ1_VOD
The reason I ask, is because the following thread states "UNSUCCESSFUL ROOT :MJ6 and later":
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2522729
In addition, do you mind me asking which version of KK you've used, as Vodafone UK haven't released this yet?
I need to retain knox 0x0
Many thanks again
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It sounds like you want to stay with official Vodafone rom versions.
I didn't see any need to, so I flashed MJ7 BTU (UK) using MOP as the next step, which worked perfectly.
I flashed mk2 btu wheb that came out in the same way.
Fir kitkat, like most others, i flashed the Polish XEO NA6 official rom. Like I said kitkat flash is a little more tricky due to the extra bootloader flashing step. Personally, kitkat release isn't quite ready for prime time so samsung haven't rolled it out in more regions. There a few little quirks about it, e.g. genuine s view cover not working for all. I'd suggest waiting for the official BTU release before flashing by which time they may have ironed out the little bugs.
Good luck!
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I'm getting Vodafone note 3 do they come sim locked? Does chain fires sim lock app work on Vodafone phones thanks.
I prefer to use my EE sim.
Thanks for reading.
riz157 said:
I'm getting Vodafone note 3 do they come sim locked? Does chain fires sim lock app work on Vodafone phones thanks.
I prefer to use my EE sim.
Thanks for reading.
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They do come sim locked. However, getting an unlock code isn't difficult. Worth calling customer services in your 1st 7 days & saying u need to use the phone abroad. Worked for me.
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dsm52 said:
They do come sim locked. However, getting an unlock code isn't difficult. Worth calling customer services in your 1st 7 days & saying u need to use the phone abroad. Worked for me.
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Yes I could try that but I was looking for a quicker and cheaper way.
riz157 said:
Yes I could try that but I was looking for a quicker and cheaper way.
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Actually I was unlocked within a few mins of making the call - unlock code got texted to me. And it was free - most likely because I was within my first 7 days of a new contract.
If it's not a new contract phone, then some others have reported chainfire's region lock away to work:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2470551
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Hi XDA people,
Just found this workaround for rooting latest 4.4.2 stock firmware without tripping Knox.
This method downgrades the firmware(System & Kernel) on your device to N7100XXUEMK4 except for the bootloader.
Dont even try to downgrade the bootloader as this isn't possible.
What you need:
1.Odin v3.09
2.Stock official N7100XXUFND3 firmware on your device.
3. A device with Knox Warranty Void: 0
Procedure:
1.Download N7100XXUEMK4 Stock Rom from HERE
2. Open the downloaded file.You will find 4 .tar.md5 files and an Odinv3.09 zip file inside.
3. Extract the Odin file and setup Odin on your PC.
4. Next extract the file named AP_N7100XXUEMK4_2099172_REV04_user_low_ship.tar.md5
5. Load this file into AP tab on Odin. Connect your phone in Odin mode and flash this file.
( Note : You have to flash only the AP file from Odin. Do not flash the other files namely CP, CSC, BL)
6. Now once the phone has rebooted go back to download mode and check if Knox has tripped or not.
7. Next use Saferoot from HERE to root your device.
(You would find the guide on how to root using saferoot easily over HERE
8. Now if saferoot was able to root your device then you must be rooted without tripping Knox. :good:
9. Now you can easily flash your official firmware through mobile odin. Select Everroot option on Mobile odin while flashing the new firmware. In this way you wont lose root access.
Known Issues:
If after rooting you want to flash custom recovery via mobile odin, or via DR.Ketan's utilities app please note that it will trip knox.
Knox remains cool until your recovery is stock. The moment a custom recovery is detected knox goes 1.
Credits:
@k1mu for saferoot
Cant you just do this?
Use Mj5 bootloader and any rom 4.x
Flash Kitkat 4.4.2 via mobilOdin and root.
Make sure status is ok (use triangle away if not)
Flash latest 4.4.2 bootloader via Odin (pcOdin)
robalm said:
Cant you just do this?
Use Mj5 bootloader and any rom 4.x
Flash Kitkat 4.4.2 via mobilOdin and root.
Make sure status is ok (use triangle away if not)
Flash latest 4.4.2 bootloader via Odin (pcOdin)
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Surely it can be done that way.
This is for those who already upgraded to the newer builds.
Edit: FYI Triangle Away cannot reset Knox.
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smeet.somaiya said:
Surely it can be done that way.
This is for those who already upgraded to the newer builds.
Edit: FYI Triangle Away cannot reset Knox.
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Ok.
What i mean was use Triangle away before you flash the 4.4.2 bootloader to get official status and binary count 0, the knox in MJ5 always stand 0.
robalm said:
Ok.
What i mean was use Triangle away before you flash the 4.4.2 bootloader to get official status and binary count 0, the knox in MJ5 always stand 0.
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Okay. :thumbup:
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can u do this with 7105 also?
romdroid. said:
can u do this with 7105 also?
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No idea about N7105
Do you know any N7105 stock firmware which is root able by saferoot/kingoroot without tripping knox?
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smeet.somaiya said:
Okay. :thumbup:
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robalm said:
Ok.
What i mean was use Triangle away before you flash the 4.4.2 bootloader to get official status and binary count 0, the knox in MJ5 always stand 0.
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But wouldn't flashing 4.4.2 BL trigger Knox? I got bit confused with @robalm method
@smeet.somaiya didn't some guy over at general forum under galaxy note 2 india told us that he downgraded from official 4.4.2 to stock 4.3 and his bootloader was downgraded as well?
singhpratik87 said:
But wouldn't flashing 4.4.2 BL trigger Knox? I got bit confused with @robalm method
@smeet.somaiya didn't some guy over at general forum under galaxy note 2 india told us that he downgraded from official 4.4.2 to stock 4.3 and his bootloader was downgraded as well?
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I don't think flashing ND3 BL will trigger knox.
Most of the users already flashed ND3 BL from MJ5 while they were on DN3. It doesn't trigger that way.
And yes about that guy, he never mentioned any detail that he downgraded from ND3 to which firmware of 4.3.
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smeet.somaiya said:
I don't think flashing ND3 BL will trigger knox.
Most of the users already flashed ND3 BL from MJ5 while they were on DN3. It doesn't trigger that way.
And yes about that guy, he never mentioned any detail that he downgraded from ND3 to which firmware of 4.3.
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I don't think you kept up with haybill and paarkhi's comments in DN3.They were on mj5 and upgraded to ND3 BL and they got Knoxed
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smeet.somaiya said:
I don't think flashing ND3 BL will trigger knox.
Most of the users already flashed ND3 BL from MJ5 while they were on DN3. It doesn't trigger that way.
And yes about that guy, he never mentioned any detail that he downgraded from ND3 to which firmware of 4.3.
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infact you were the one who brought it to mine and haybill's attention that upgrading BL to ND3 triggers Knox ,i'll just ask haybill to send me a screenshot from phone info
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I don't think you kept up with haybill and paarkhi's comments in DN3.They were on mj5 and upgraded to ND3 BL and they got Knoxed
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I did read them. They got knoxed means they got a BL with Knox warranty Void 0. And @paarkhi confirmed it to me
And I really don't think it would trigger knox that way because the bootloader doesn't check the integrity of the firmware on your device when you're flashing the bootloader itself.
Also it doesn't trigger Knox while it boots up the system and finds unauthorized firmware.
Because we don't have Kernel lock and secure boot like on Qualcomm based N3.
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smeet.somaiya said:
I did read them. They got knoxed means they got a BL with Knox warranty Void 0. And @paarkhi confirmed it to me
And I really don't think it would trigger knox that way because the bootloader doesn't check the integrity of the firmware on your device when you're flashing the bootloader itself.
Also it doesn't trigger Knox while it boots up the system and finds unauthorized firmware.
Because we don't have Kernel lock and secure boot like on Qualcomm based N3.
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Okay this is all too much for my brain to absorb at this time of the night ,i don't think i actually understand the difference between Knox warranty void and being Knoxed ,i guess since we install de-knoxed ROMs we can't get Knoxed ,just that our warranty goes out the window and we cannot downgrade beyond a certain OS right? If what i stated is wrong then i'll go to bed and dream of knox
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Okay this is all too much for my brain to absorb at this time of the night ,i don't think i actually understand the difference between Knox warranty void and being Knoxed ,i guess since we install de-knoxed ROMs we can't get Knoxed ,just that our warranty goes out the window and we cannot downgrade beyond a certain OS right? If what i stated is wrong then i'll go to bed and dream of knox
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Lol. It's paritally right.
Don't worry buddy I'll help you learn Knox
Being Knoxed is getting that extra line in the download mode.
But this doesn't throw away your warranty. Warranty is lost only when this extra line in download mode ends with 1 instead of 0
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singhpratik87 said:
But wouldn't flashing 4.4.2 BL trigger Knox? I got bit confused with @robalm method
@smeet.somaiya didn't some guy over at general forum under galaxy note 2 india told us that he downgraded from official 4.4.2 to stock 4.3 and his bootloader was downgraded as well?
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I cant say for sure if flashing only the new 4.4.2 bootloader via odin will trigger knox, i have not tested it myself.
My post was more of a question from me.
robalm said:
I cant say for sure if flashing only the new 4.4.2 bootloader via odin will trigger knox, i have not tested it myself.
My post was more of a question from me.
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In my opinion that shouldn't trip Knox.
Let us know if you test it.
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smeet.somaiya said:
In my opinion that shouldn't trip Knox.
Let us know if you test it.
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Have you got any feedback yet?
I do not have the balls to try it, my warranty is still valid and i may need to have it on service in future.
robalm said:
Have you got any feedback yet?
I do not have the balls to try it, my warranty is still valid and i may need to have it on service in future.
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No feedback yet. But one thing i can say for sure that even if this method fails it won't hard rick your phone because we ain't downgrading the BL here.
And I found a similar method on S4 active forums. It seems it works very well.
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smeet.somaiya said:
No feedback yet. But one thing i can say for sure that even if this method fails it won't hard rick your phone because we ain't downgrading the BL here.
And I found a similar method on S4 active forums. It seems it works very well.
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Ok.
But KNOX will trigger by flashing anything that is not samsung official? (same as the binary counter)
robalm said:
Ok.
But KNOX will trigger by flashing anything that is not samsung official? (same as the binary counter)
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Yes it would trigger by flashing unofficial firmware.
But here we ain't doing that too.
We're just flashing a older kernel+system partition (the whole PDA from MK4) that was vulnerable to root without tripping knox.
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I have DDUFND1. Even kingo doesnt recognize it. How can i get a one click root solution :crying: