Root performance vs Stock performance? - Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General

Hey guys, I just bought my U.S. Galaxy Note 2014 Wifi version for $550 (no tax on military base), which is quite expensive to me, but so far I really like the tablet. I just think it's got quite a premium price to it.
So last night I watched a 25 minute Youtube video with the screen brightness all the way down, and from what I could tell, no other apps running.
My battery life went down 15%-20%. Does that sound about right?
I want to root my device but I've never rooted anything so I figured I'd post this question up while I read about it.
Has rooting your Galaxy Note 2014 helped its battery life and the overall performance?

I've rooted mine and yes the battery life and performance has improved. You can uni stall bloat ware like my magazine which is constantly tag cpu. Also you get apps that when rooted you can select all or any app you want to for multi screen and pen window which is awesoms
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reubenskelly1992 said:
I've rooted mine and yes the battery life and performance has improved. You can uni stall bloat ware like my magazine which is constantly tag cpu. Also you get apps that when rooted you can select all or any app you want to for multi screen and pen window which is awesoms
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That sounds great. Is the S-Pen functionality any different?

No different at all. If you keep touchwiz if will all look the same just you will have access to anything. I uni stalled all the samsung stuff that are useless. E.g chat on, samsung hub etc froze push notification and my magazine. Working great . Still leggy here and but more updates will come im sure. But faster. My battery is on 19 percent and it's been off charge since about 11 the afternoon. But Ive practically all day been watching programmes , playing games and surfing the Web . With lowish screen brightness
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Odd, the DAY I picked mine up, without doing any of the launch-day updates, I still managed a less than 25% use from watching a feature-length HD movie (Pacific Rim, picked up on Samsung Hub with the credits. THAT was a pain in the ass). I wasn't even watching it at minimum brightness, probably more inbetween 20 and 40 percent.

Full use of series games and browsing all day I got 13 hours. Which is very good for heavy use
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Alright I'll give it a full charge as see how long it lasts with a full HD movie.

Must reduce google services like google now. It will make battey drain fast,
Root and remove bloat ware and you will see smooth and longer battery. samsung very stupid when install too many bloatware.

hi,can i ask which are the bloatware that i can remove?thx

I uni stalled. Chat on, samsung hub, samsung apps, etc. I froze samsung push notifications service and my magazine, , add a huge difference. If u don't use it freeze or delete, just be careful not to delete Nothing important. Other than touchwiz all the samsung stuff pretty much is bloat ware
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And in this way does the battery live so longer? Thx

Mines majorly improved. I get about 14 hours of heavy use with the brightness on about 20 percent.
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Less than 5 hours on a full charge?!

I know I'm a heavy phone user, but how are people saying they get 9+ hours of constant use, like watching videos, and I'm getting half that from texting, using Hangouts, and a couple social networking apps? My screen uses between 45-50% of that and the rest is apps, primarily the ones I use most.
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cowboyaryk said:
I know I'm a heavy phone user, but how are people saying they get 9+ hours of constant use, like watching videos, and I'm getting half that from texting, using Hangouts, and a couple social networking apps? My screen uses between 45-50% of that and the rest is apps, primarily the ones I use most.
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Mind posting battery stats?
cowboyaryk said:
I know I'm a heavy phone user, but how are people saying they get 9+ hours of constant use, like watching videos, and I'm getting half that from texting, using Hangouts, and a couple social networking apps? My screen uses between 45-50% of that and the rest is apps, primarily the ones I use most.
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And how much screen time are you showing?
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I unplugged from a charger about 330pm, it's now almost 8 with the following stats. This is driving me crazy, I feel like I can't unplug it. So today I get almost 6 hours to almost 10%
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What launcher were you using? I unplugged at 7-8 am this morning and attached are my stats. Sometimes it drains more than others but overall the battery life is pretty amazing.
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I unplugged from a charger about 330pm, it's now almost 8 with the following stats. This is driving me crazy, I feel like I can't unplug it. So today I get almost 6 hours to almost 10%
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Well, for starters wifi is at 0% which means ur constantly using 4G which can suck ur battery dry especially if you're in an area with bad reception.
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Well, for starters wifi is at 0% which means ur constantly using 4G which can suck ur battery dry especially if you're in an area with bad reception.
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My wifi always shows it's connected as a solid blue line, but I've been on LTE all day.
Might be a rogue app running in the background or something? I use the Active Apps widget and randomly end programs from time to time while clearing up the RAM as well. Hopefully it's just a rogue app or bad battery?
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I unplugged from a charger about 330pm, it's now almost 8 with the following stats. This is driving me crazy, I feel like I can't unplug it. So today I get almost 6 hours to almost 10%
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You're definitely not getting what you should. Look at my stats, a lot of wifi but also not as much held awake time on my phone considering what I have as Battery time. Take a look around there's things you can disable like bloatware that may be holding your phone from sleeping. Also see if you can reconfigure that one app, maybe it updates to often. I don't usually have any app drain more then kernel and the android system.
Or its your battery if you've done all that.
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Are you rooted?
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Are you rooted?
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If you are asking me, no.
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I was having that same problem when first got my phone. I'm pretty sure it was the new themer application it, worked fine until I uninstalled it, then my battery constantly needed to be charged. To originally fix it I backed up and factory reset it then it seemed to be working fine but now that I'm rooted I have been using greenify and it works like a dream. It tells you in better detail what's draining your battery and what wakes it up in your background as it tries to sleep. Now I get about 22 hours with pretty regular usage
With 56 minutes on screen time, I should get close to ten hours... you must have an app that is killing your battery or that uses data alot
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Here is how mine is looking today so far, I would say my Note 3 outlasts my other phones no problem.. biggest offenders I noticed that wrecked mine was Google Settings>Location Reporting turned that off, and when I dont need it turn everything off in Settings>Location Reporting.. when I go out or want to use Google Now I turn it on .. I greenified a lot of the stupid apps like My Magazine or disabled them outright
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Here is how mine is looking today so far, I would say my Note 3 outlasts my other phones no problem.. biggest offenders I noticed that wrecked mine was Google Settings>Location Reporting turned that off, and when I dont need it turn everything off in Settings>Location Reporting.. when I go out or want to use Google Now I turn it on .. I greenified a lot of the stupid apps like My Magazine or disabled them outright
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Three things, one are you rooted. Two if not, is the beginning of it while you are sleeping or using it? If using it, what other things have you tweaked If not rooted.
And third but completely unrelated, I see you have a sense clock, if you want a great one that is pretty much a perfect copy of sense, take a look at "sense v2 flip click and weather". I use that and love it
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Three things, one are you rooted. Two if not, is the beginning of it while you are sleeping or using it? If using it, what other things have you tweaked If not rooted.
And third but completely unrelated, I see you have a sense clock, if you want a great one that is pretty much a perfect copy of sense, take a look at "sense v2 flip click and weather". I use that and love it
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I can't speak for Neo but I'm rooted, but before then I still had amazing battery life because I disabled most if not all the bloatware.
I've disabled most of the bloat ware, I think. I'm it rooted. I'm just always plugging this thing in
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I do want to root though
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Battery life N2 vs N3

I was the owner of Note2 before. And now Note3.
Is it just me or anyone of you agree that the batt drain faster than Note2.
I test it with stock unrooted, no additional program installed, same 4.3 stock Sammy.
The N2 is using 4.3 leak but the batt can last for 1.5day with moderate usage.
But N3 can barely sustain a half day for light usage.
Both WiFi on, both no apps installed, no root.
Anyone notice similar?
It has been reported that the gnote2 has better battery life. Still rocking mine.
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Now rooted and also underclocking to 1.5Ghz max.... Still batt is crazy....
Also if BBM is active, its hogging up resource....
What's your model number?
I wonder is the snapdragon version have better batt than exynos...
D**n internet.... made double post....
Strange. In my case its 20% better. Try to lower the brightness and turnoff all animations.
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It has been reported that the gnote2 has better battery life. Still rocking mine.
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really? you wanna give a link/source that "reported" that... the note 3 has ALOT better battery compared to the note 2
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Khizar said:
really? you wanna give a link/source that "reported" that... the note 3 better battery compared to the note 2
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http://www.phonesreview.co.uk/2013/10/19/galaxy-note-3-battery-life-results-disappoint/ I know everyone's usage is different I said that based of a test that was run.
Having owned a note 2 and now a note 3 I must say the note 2 has a better batterylife imo. Both rooted and undervolted. Pretty much the same apps as well such as greenify etc. It ain't a very big difference tho, in my case.
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and not mention to memory leak.... touchwiz alone eats 400Mb RAM with 2 home pages...
And by that 2 home page, it only contain samsung's accuweather widget and S Planner widget....
So crazy.....
RAM keep floating at 200Mb....
My note 2 was def better on battery..I had to buy the sammy spare battery and charger kit for my note 3 if that tells you anything.
I honestly expected better in this regard
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i dun have numbers but my usage is same, switching from 2 to 3 got me around 2 hrs of extra battery life roughly
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Im at about 1,5 day with moderate use on my N3.(Surfing and phonecalls, no gaming or movies)

Stock version battery screenshots?

So I'm trying to find out if I'm the only one getting terrible life out of my battery. I used to get 16 hours + and still have 10% left. Now, it drops about 15% an hour. I use less than 25% brightness.
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Your going to need to be a bit more specific.
I averaged 4.5-5 hours screen time when I first got my phone running MDL firmware. That is running everything as is right out the box with fairly heavy data usage.
That screen shot doesn't tell you squat.
I'm new to Android and I'm starting to hate my s4. I only get 2-3hrs screen time with this phone. Battery life is very terrible. I hate the fact that you to greenify stuffs just to maximize battery life. I'm using deadly venom 8.2 on mf3. Lux dash as auto brightness (I hate the fact that you have to lower the brightness settings to get better battery life?)
I'm usually on wifi, on my better battery stats, I go 3-4.5% per hour when I'm not using it which can last the whole day but once I use it, it just eats up the batter from 15%-25%max per hour usage. Very disappointing.
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I'm new to Android and I'm starting to hate my s4. I only get 2-3hrs screen time with this phone. Battery life is very terrible. I hate the fact that you to greenify stuffs just to maximize battery life. I'm using deadly venom 8.2 on mf3. Lux dash as auto brightness (I hate the fact that you have to lower the brightness settings to get better battery life?)
I'm usually on wifi, on my better battery stats, I go 3-4.5% per hour when I'm not using it which can last the whole day but once I use it, it just eats up the batter from 15%-25%max per hour usage. Very disappointing.
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Not to be rude but go back to the iPhone if you don't like android simple as that people on craigslist will trade an iPhone 5/5c for your gs4. You've already made several threads and comments about this right now. I get great battery life plus iOS 7 is way too colorful.
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That screen shot doesn't tell you squat.
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Yeah obviously... Sorry, this xda app could really use some updating... I tried uploading 3 pictures... That was the last one... I'll try to take another screenshot after another normal days use.
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This is my use so far...? Seem normal?
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Seems normal. Only dropped 5% in 1 hour 15 minutes in your screenshot instead of 15% you said in your first post. You could try turning off those google services you dont use.

How are these battery stats?

I was wondering what people thought of these battery stats. I consider these average for my normal day. I've gotten much better and much worse. Just looking for comparisons. And wondering if anyone had any advice that relates specifically to this phone. Ive done almost everything out there. At least as much as you can do running stock. I have frozen many apps. Disabled almost all non essestial settings. Display is less than 25%. Use app ops. Wake lock detector. Better battery stats. Turned off location on almost everything. The only thing I think hurts me is I have auto sync on many apps, mostly for social media. Mainly I want to know if people who have gone through the ringer trying to squeeze very bit of battery life out of their phones are experiencing similar battery life. I see so many people claiming crazy stats I want to know how they do it.
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This is an average day for me of heavy internet browsing and just using my phone really. I am running stock mk2, although i have removed many apps. But i had 15% battery left after that days use.
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@ OP.
Those battery stats are average for a normal every day user on stock. Custom ROMS and Kernels if you want super battery tweaking.
So off topic bc I'm a super noob.. I was wondering if you root your phone do you lose the ability to get carrier software updates?
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celderic said:
This is an average day for me of heavy internet browsing and just using my phone really. I am running stock mk2, although i have removed many apps. But i had 15% battery left after that days use.
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OP, your Android OS is waaaaaaay too high. (try settings/connections/location services/ uncheck "use wireless networks) for a major difference.
He didnt start the post. I did. He was responding to my original question. Thanks.
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junior_mafioso said:
So off topic bc I'm a super noob.. I was wondering if you root your phone do you lose the ability to get carrier software updates?
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You can use wanam exposed to fake the system status as official instead of custom. But i prefer to use odin instead.
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Lightflow & Swapps app keeps force closing

Hello!
I have an AT&T Note 3 running on root and I've noticed that my Lightflow & Swapps app keeps automatically force closing at random times in the day.... this never happened before until I decided to root my phone, and even then, in the beginning everything was running smoothly. Any idea of what could be causing this? I am using the NOVA launcher but I wouldn't see why that would cause an issue... and on Kitkat 4.4, I'd appreciate anyone's input!
Get rid of lightflow! It just sucks up your battery!
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speedyjay said:
Get rid of lightflow! It just sucks up your battery!
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Do you recommend an alternative app that does the same? It's never given me any battery issues.
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Do you recommend an alternative app that does the same? It's never given me any battery issues.
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Me personally, I recommend none because they all drain battery. How much usage do you get out of your battery before you have to charge it? I get around 1d 8hrs with moderate usage.
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Me personally, I recommend none because they all drain battery. How much usage do you get out of your battery before you have to charge it? I get around 1d 8hrs with moderate usage.
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From what I do, it actually does last me a while but I do have to charge it when I am at work. From 9 to about 3:30p.m I have to charge it because it's at 10% due to me watching Netflixs all through my work shift, including lunch, while also texting back and forth whenever I need to. My shift ends at 5:30, so by then it's at 100% because I started charging it around 3:30p.m. On a day like the weekend, I hardly use my phone at all since I have my PC so my batter life lasts a really long time without me having to charge it by the end of the day and even then I have about 60%. On a day where I am up and about, my batter lasts me till about 40% all day until I have to charge it. I hope that makes any sense. I don't pay much attention to my battery life since all I use my phone for is netflixs while I am at work and SOMETIMES some gaming, but not all the time. I also hardly call or text anyone.

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