I would like to use simplistic framework but its not fully working on my mj7 installation, so I'd like to downgrade to mj6.
I updated my phone with URDLV custom created odin tar without bootloaders, so I still got MI6 bootloader. Any idea if this will trip knox?
No hearsay please just if you definitely know. I actually doubt that this downgrade will trip knox, as long as I only flash the system image and leave kernel and recovery etc out, but I want to make sure - kept my warranty for so long now hehe no need to ruin it by one small mistake =).
(I will eventually end up tripping knox anyway if no way is found to use custom kernel and recovery while keeping the warranty, but i wanna give it some more time..)
This could be interesting to more people too I'm sure.
Or does simplistic framework fully work on stock MJ7? If so then I would just need to go back to full stock mj7 via odin. (still got that file flying around)
zroice said:
I would like to use simplistic framework but its not fully working on my mj7 installation, so I'd like to downgrade to mj6.
I updated my phone with URDLV custom created odin tar without bootloaders, so I still got MI6 bootloader. Any idea if this will trip knox?
No hearsay please just if you definitely know. I actually doubt that this downgrade will trip knox, as long as I only flash the system image and leave kernel and recovery etc out, but I want to make sure - kept my warranty for so long now hehe no need to ruin it by one small mistake =).
(I will eventually end up tripping knox anyway if no way is found to use custom kernel and recovery while keeping the warranty, but i wanna give it some more time..)
This could be interesting to more people too I'm sure.
Or does simplistic framework fully work on stock MJ7? If so then I would just need to go back to full stock mj7 via odin. (still got that file flying around)
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no you cant downgrade
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Hey Guys just wondering
Does anyone have any suggestions on How I can go back to MJ1 from
N900W8VLUBMJ4 ?
The latest OTA update makes my phone heat up while using the phone where normally it stayed super cool.
The performance was awesome already, I am unsure as to why I took the OTA update. sigh.
I am afraid my Boot loader is updated on N900W8VLUBMJ4 which would mean I cannot downgrade back to
N900W8VLUBMJ1 ?
I would really like to revert back. I am thinking of Rooting/0X0 via RDLV and then flashing via ODIN back to N900W8VLUBMJ1 baseband version.
Thanks for any suggestions!
1sagain said:
Hey Guys just wondering
Does anyone have any suggestions on How I can go back to MJ1 from
N900W8VLUBMJ4 ?
The latest OTA update makes my phone heat up while using the phone where normally it stayed super cool.
The performance was awesome already, I am unsure as to why I took the OTA update. sigh.
I am afraid my Boot loader is updated on N900W8VLUBMJ4 which would mean I cannot downgrade back to
N900W8VLUBMJ1 ?
I would really like to revert back. I am thinking of Rooting/0X0 via RDLV and then flashing via ODIN back to N900W8VLUBMJ1 baseband version.
Thanks for any suggestions!
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As you have thought about it, you won't be able to downgrade back to MJ1 due to the bootloader issue. Instead of downgrade, why don't you upgrade to MJ7? So far there is no issue with this firmware and many has reported that the modem is pretty good as well. However since you are in MJ4, I'm afraid you might not be able to root your Note 3 without tripping the bootloader. If root is not important, then download the MJ7 firmware and flash via PC Odin and you are good to go
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As you have thought about it, you won't be able to downgrade back to MJ1 due to the bootloader issue. Instead of downgrade, why don't you upgrade to MJ7? So far there is no issue with this firmware and many has reported that the modem is pretty good as well. However since you are in MJ4, I'm afraid you might not be able to root your Note 3 without tripping the bootloader. If root is not important, then download the MJ7 firmware and flash via PC Odin and you are good to go
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Hey Just a quick question then. from my understanding. flashing Firmware's will not trip Knox via Odin.
(I also do not see the full negatives of tripping knox. We can avoid it yes. and it hurts warranty. does it physically damage your device?)
Thank you
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Hey Just a quick question then. from my understanding. flashing Firmware's will not trip Knox via Odin.
(I also do not see the full negatives of tripping knox. We can avoid it yes. and it hurts warranty. does it physically damage your device?)
Thank you
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So far I have not seen any reported case that flashing firmware via PC Odin will trip knox and it is quite a safe process to carry out. But it is always safe to keep a copy of your region latest firmware just in case you need to send it back for warranty.
Tripping knox or root do not cause any harm or damage to your device. Is only if you try to do something out of the norm or didn't follow the instruction posted by developer in flashing some stuff that might brick your device. So far in my country there is one reported case that the user successfully claim warranty for a faulty USB port with a rooted and knox tripped 0x1 Note 3. It's very much depends on the SC.
But if you really want root, then just ignore the Note 3 and get a good protection for your Note 3 so that it could reduce the likelihood to visit SC. If root is not important, flashing MJ7 via odin is pretty good.
I have a N900W8 (Canadian Note 3) which is on 4.3 Jelly Bean.
It was rooted, tried to update to the OTA 4.4.2 and was denied with a "custom" error.
So I used SuperSU full unroot option, still custom system status, cannot upgrade.
I have downloaded 4.3 and 4.4.2 stock firmwares that correlate with my CSC from sam-mobile, my question:
If I use Odin 3.09 to install the 4.3 firmware again to get back to stock, will this trip Knox? Also I am assuming if it will not I would be ok to upload the 4.4.2 firmware directly after as well, via Odin 3.09?
Let me know if you can, really itching to do this, will not do it blindly however. Need an answer from another member before I go ahead.
I hate Knox so much, last Samsung phone for sure. Stuck with it now however, I had no idea about Knox, had I known I would have most likely kept the Nexus 5 I traded for this beast,
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I have a N900W8 (Canadian Note 3) which is on 4.3 Jelly Bean.
It was rooted, tried to update to 4.4.2 and was denied with a "custom" error.
So I used SuperSU full unroot option, still custom system status, cannot upgrade.
I have downloaded 4.3 and 4.4.2 stock firmwares that correlate with my CSC from sam-mobile, my question:
If I use Odin 3.09 to install the 4.3 firmware again to get back to stock, will this trip Knox? Also I am assuming if it will not I would be ok to upload the 4.4.2 firmware directly after as well, via Odin 3.09?
Let me know if you can, really itching to do this, will not do it blindly however. Need an answer from another member before I go ahead.
I hate Knox so much, last Samsung phone for sure. Stuck with it now however, I had no idea about Knox, had I known I would have most likely kept the Nexus 5 I traded for this beast,
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knox will only trip if you root wrong ,so just flash 4.4.2 stock with odin and all will be fine
jaythenut said:
knox will only trip if you root wrong ,so just flash 4.4.2 stock with odin and all will be fine
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Well, Knox was not tripped when it was rooted.
The thing is, I did not root this phone. The person I bought it off did.
He did it right as it did not trip Knox.
Can I assume that since Knox was not tripped I can flash with Odin and still not trip it?
I appreciate the reply my friend.
nexxusty said:
Well, Knox was not tripped when it was rooted.
The thing is, I did not root this phone. The person I bought it off did.
He did it right as it did not trip Knox.
Can I assume that since Knox was not tripped I can flash with Odin and still not trip it?
I appreciate the reply my friend.
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Yes your be fine but you will loose root
nexxusty said:
Well, Knox was not tripped when it was rooted.
The thing is, I did not root this phone. The person I bought it off did.
He did it right as it did not trip Knox.
Can I assume that since Knox was not tripped I can flash with Odin and still not trip it?
I appreciate the reply my friend.
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Also, any idea how to reset the flash counter after flashing 4.4.2? Or will it be ok considering I only rooted?
Not sure on this either.
jaythenut said:
Yes your be fine but you will loose root
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NP losing root.
Thanks!
Just started flashing.
Hoping everything will be ok.
nexxusty said:
Just started flashing.
Hoping everything will be ok.
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No issues, back to Official status.
I actually have major flashlighting on the left side of my screen. Only visible with white is anywhere BUT the left side of the screen (Best way I can explain it). Anyone know if Samsung will repair this?
Not interested in defective hardware, it's obvious this Note 3 is a one off and needs a new screen. Hoping Samsung is not going to deny me.
Just need to pick up my replacement HTC One on my actual plan (Bought this one straight up, HTC One I had was lost, have insurance.).
REALLY would like to know about the flash counter before I send this off. It has been rooted with Root De La Whatever it is (LOL) then unrooted via SuperSU, then I Odin'd the 4.4.2 update. There was a checkbox ticked called "F.Reset Time", is that it?
I'll look a bit before making my own thread on this one if no has a quick answer.
Thanks again, XDA never lets me down.
I recently purchased a SM-N900W8. Love this device, just retired my S2 which i messed around with for a few years and never had issues...
I neglected to do research on XDA (Big mistake) before rooting it and had no idea about the repercussions of this KNOX issue.
I used this method to root it (http://galaxynote3root.com/galaxy-note-3-root/how-to-root-galaxy-note-3/)
I successfully installed CWM recovery and SuperSu and the phone is rooted. I had no intentions of installing Custom Roms just yet just wanted to be able to use some of my favorite apps that require rooting. The phones Current Binary and Phone status have both been tagged custom but my KNOX Warranty Void is still tagged at 0X0. Needless to say maybe I got lucky?
I was hoping to Revert to Stock and Unroot so I could follow this method instead (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2498850)
Is there anyways to Accomplish this without tripping the KNOX counter? I've been scouring the forums for several hours trying to find a concrete answer but cannot.
I have downloaded my stock firmware (http://www.sammobile.com/firmwares/3/?download=26653)
Any help or suggestions would be greatly appreciated. I have included a screenshot of my device info. I apologize in advance if this issue has already been addressed.
Thanks,
-Rob
For device info and Knox warranty status, you can use my app Phone INFO ★Samsung★ to get more detailed info.
Download link in my signature.
Why did you even install CWM if you didn't need it ?
Why do you want to remove it ? Don't fix it if it ain't broken. De la vega will trip Knox in 4.4, so leave it as it is.
Sent from my N9005
Dejan Sathanas said:
Why did you even install CWM if you didn't need it ?
Why do you want to remove it ? Don't fix it if it ain't broken. De la vega will trip Knox in 4.4, so leave it as it is.
Sent from my N9005
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Will do. Was just worried about official updates and warranty if phone still says custom but knox is not tripped. But bell outsources another company for repairs and doesn't send back to Samsung directly so I probably don't need to worry to much..
I used CWM because I've used it for a couple years with my S2 and enjoyed the features so when I saw cwm was avaliable for note 3 I jumped on it.
But there is no way to revert to stock without tripping count?
Thanks.
SSJ3Rob said:
Will do. Was just worried about official updates and warranty if phone still says custom but knox is not tripped. But bell outsources another company for repairs and doesn't send back to Samsung directly so I probably don't need to worry to much..
I used CWM because I've used it for a couple years with my S2 and enjoyed the features so when I saw cwm was avaliable for note 3 I jumped on it.
But there is no way to revert to stock without tripping count?
Thanks.
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Flashing stock using odin should rever everything back to stock and possibly not trip knox counte, I am saying possibly cuz nobody has tried to flash stock recovery and try to keep knox cool as custom recoveries have tripped everyone's knox AFAIK. But your phone FW or maybe something else might make your device an exception.
Sent From My SM-N9005 To All You Wonder Nobodies!!
Khizar said:
Flashing stock using odin should rever everything back to stock and possibly not trip knox counte, I am saying possibly cuz nobody has tried to flash stock recovery and try to keep knox cool as custom recoveries have tripped everyone's knox AFAIK. But your phone FW or maybe something else might make your device an exception.
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I will leave as is for now until more info on the subject surfaces. As much as I want to try to flash back to stock recovery and test your theory I will hold out and not mess around with CWM or mess with apps requiring root to much incase it decides to trip the counter.
Thanks.
Galaxy S5, SM-G900F (I'm in Europe), Kernel is Jul 3 2014,
I used to have Towelroot. I unrooted, updated to my most current Android version (4.4.2), and since then Towelroot won't work to reroot (it says I'm not supported). Is this so for all others? Is there a way to properly have Towelroot root my device, or is Odin my only option now?
Thanks.
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tempest22 said:
Galaxy S5, SM-G900F (I'm in Europe), Kernel is Jul 3 2014,
I used to have Towelroot. I unrooted, updated to my most current Android version (4.4.2), and since then Towelroot won't work to reroot (it says I'm not supported). Is this so for all others? Is there a way to properly have Towelroot root my device, or is Odin my only option now?
Thanks.
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Use the search engine and you will find answers to those questions
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fffft said:
Asked and answered many times. Read a few posts in the forum, do a search or look in my post history for all of the details.
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sigh...look, I only wish to know whether Towelroot is dead and/or what I can do to make it work on my S5. I can't look through thousands of ultra specific threads. I'm not a phone guy. Someone just give me a straight answer and I'm happy. Please. You guys are the experts, I'm not.
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Christ the writing in this thread, just answer him for crying out loud. @tempest22 you've answered your own question, you updated. Towel root doesn't work on the newest firmware, downgrade using Odin to an earlier build then use towel root, use neatroms method to install a recovery and flash a ROM , you'll need to use mobile Odin to flash the modem and bootloader, or you may even be able to do it via recovery if you're on a high enough ROM version, there are other ways to root and install a custom rom. If its just root access you need then downgrade then use towel root..always use a method which retains your Knox 0x0 status.
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Christ the writing in this thread, just answer him for crying out loud. @tempest22 you've answered your own question, you updated. Towel root doesn't work on the newest firmware, downgrade using Odin to an earlier build then use towel root, use neatroms method to install a recovery and flash a ROM , you'll need to use mobile Odin to flash the modem and bootloader, or you may even be able to do it via recovery if you're on a high enough ROM version, there are other ways to root and install a custom rom. If its just root access you need then downgrade then use towel root..always use a method which retains your Knox 0x0 status.
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Thank you so much man, seriously. I really just need root access, so if Towelroot doesn't work anymore I guess I'll just use Odin knowing it will trip Knox. Apart from voiding the warranty it doesn't do anything else right? Any reason to keep Knox? I'd rather keep the most recent firmware, so no downgrade for me.
I don't think flashing a ROM via odin makes you lose your warranty, flashing a custom recovery would, bootloader, modem. But not the entire official TAR file. So you won't have anything to worry about. If it were me id do everything I can to retain my warranty, chances are Knox will never be fixed, so if you trip it then it'll stay that way. There is a guide once you're rooted in neat ROMs thread, its straight forward, just download everything you need, get Odin ready and follow the guide. Should be a walk in the park.
Good luck m8
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Thank you so much man, seriously. I really just need root access, so if Towelroot doesn't work anymore I guess I'll just use Odin knowing it will trip Knox. Apart from voiding the warranty it doesn't do anything else right? Any reason to keep Knox? I'd rather keep the most recent firmware, so no downgrade for me.
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Not disregarding other replies " But", if your not concerned about warranty, and your work doesn't require your phone to have Knox security enabled, Root and flash to your hearts content. Again.... If warranty, is Not a concern, go for it, because trying to maintain Knox 0x0, makes things more complicated than they need to be, nor do you get to try all options at your disposal , and really if you weren't a little bit of a risk taker you would not even know what XDA does.(Odin away, lol) Again just my opinion and if it offends, disregard.
SM-G900W8 / 0x1
Sorry, for question, I am coming from Nokia Lumia and HTC worlds. So, I still don't have a lot of experience regarding Knox issues. I have searched a lot and find nothing specific for my case.
My N9005 is on Android 4.3 MJ7 version, currently I have 4.4.2 OTA upgrade downloaded and ready to be installed. I want to install any rom 4.4.2 or above without tripping my knox. Already rooted using Kingo method and installed MOP.
The question is if I upgraded my device, does MOP still capable to install the custom ROM without tripping Knox, and how to backup my current nand without installing custom recovery?
I think that I can also install custom recovery via MOP without tripping the Knox, right?
Thank you very much in advance
hbahaie said:
Sorry, for question, I am coming from Nokia Lumia and HTC worlds. So, I still don't have a lot of experience regarding Knox issues. I have searched a lot and find nothing specific for my case.
My N9005 is on Android 4.3 MJ7 version, currently I have 4.4.2 OTA upgrade downloaded and ready to be installed. I want to install any rom 4.4.2 or above without tripping my knox. Already rooted using Kingo method and installed MOP.
The question is if I upgraded my device, does MOP still capable to install the custom ROM without tripping Knox, and how to backup my current nand without installing custom recovery?
I think that I can also install custom recovery via MOP without tripping the Knox, right?
Thank you very much in advance
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Last I checked there wasn't a clear cut method, it could be done. And since you're still on 4.3 it may be easier.
Have a look around and check the threads, there was some workarounds posted a few months back. It's not easy but it was doable. Using Mobile Odin Pro (still possible AFAIK)
I personally like a lot of others just tripped KNOX as it was a lot easier. However this isn't a viable option for everyone.
So in my opinion and my personal advice, weigh up the pros and cons of potentially tripping KNOX.
If you wanna flash custom ROMs, kernels without any headaches. Aren't too worried about your warranty (especially if you've had your device a while and are in the EU)
CONS: while you may be able to get things flashed and not trip KNOX, you may accidentally trip it with something so trivial, you'll always be trying to not trip it by avoiding different things.
Really, and ultimately only you can decide. No one is gonna judge you if you decide it's best for you to not trip and go the workaround methods.
Either way, whatever you decide, the forum is here to help if you have any questions or get into any difficulty. Good luck in your choice.
Sent from my Spectrum ZX +2
hbahaie said:
Sorry, for question, I am coming from Nokia Lumia and HTC worlds. So, I still don't have a lot of experience regarding Knox issues. I have searched a lot and find nothing specific for my case.
My N9005 is on Android 4.3 MJ7 version, currently I have 4.4.2 OTA upgrade downloaded and ready to be installed. I want to install any rom 4.4.2 or above without tripping my knox. Already rooted using Kingo method and installed MOP.
The question is if I upgraded my device, does MOP still capable to install the custom ROM without tripping Knox, and how to backup my current nand without installing custom recovery?
I think that I can also install custom recovery via MOP without tripping the Knox, right?
Thank you very much in advance
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Try this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2776887
There could be other roms but i'm not up to date either.
radicalisto said:
Last I checked there wasn't a clear cut method, it could be done. And since you're still on 4.3 it may be easier.
Have a look around and check the threads, there was some workarounds posted a few months back. It's not easy but it was doable. Using Mobile Odin Pro (still possible AFAIK)
I personally like a lot of others just tripped KNOX as it was a lot easier. However this isn't a viable option for everyone.
So in my opinion and my personal advice, weigh up the pros and cons of potentially tripping KNOX.
If you wanna flash custom ROMs, kernels without any headaches. Aren't too worried about your warranty (especially if you've had your device a while and are in the EU)
CONS: while you may be able to get things flashed and not trip KNOX, you may accidentally trip it with something so trivial, you'll always be trying to not trip it by avoiding different things.
Really, and ultimately only you can decide. No one is gonna judge you if you decide it's best for you to not trip and go the workaround methods.
Either way, whatever you decide, the forum is here to help if you have any questions or get into any difficulty. Good luck in your choice.
Sent from my Spectrum ZX +2
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Try this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2776887
There could be other roms but i'm not up to date either.
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Thank you very much friends for your help.
I have tripped my device already , and I am happy, I can flash any rom I want. That's more more easier than worrying about a make no difference digit change in the download mode screen.