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[Q] nexus 4 newbie thread about rooting and other important questions

hello, i have one week with my nexus im very happy with it but i would like to root it, to test other stuff on my nexus....
but im afraid that google can get mad..
will google detect if i install other "os" on my nexus
will i loose my warranty if i install other os or gain root access?
if i get root access or install another "os" or "rom"...can i reset my phone
and get it like i just bough it?
iis the official nexus 4 android 4.x image always stored on my nexus 4 so i can reset the device anytime i want?
i think i may want to reset it if i want to get rid of lots of stuff or if i regret of having root or other roms
and i want to keep receiving updates from google.
one night i almost dared to root it..with one click...but i want first to have these questions answered
is google aware about each device about being hacked, rooted and dont give support if install modded roms
or i just simple reset and no one knows if i hacked or not.?
sorry about my questions..or about my english..i hope you understand and try to answer my doubts.

Hi,
I just recently rooted my phone as well..
As far as I'm aware, there is no way Google can tell if you have rooted, modded, hacked your phone, unless you give it to them in that state. What is reassuring though is that you can reset your phone exactly like it was from the box. You can unroot your phone, lock the bootloader and many of the guys around here will have links to the stock image if you require it.

Toolkit vs OneClickRoot.com
I am reading up on rooting the nexus 4 and was thinking I would use the one click root function in the toolkit by mskip, but I have seen the website oneclickroot.com which says this: Remember: One Click Root is 100% guaranteed to work and the process is completely risk-free. It is currently in beta and will apparently be running properly in a couple of weeks.
Is this legit and is it really any safer than the toolkit??

I have to post 10 times in order to comment on a thread about a Kernel.
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sorry to post again, but I have to in order to comment.

Gazza2907 said:
I am reading up on rooting the nexus 4 and was thinking I would use the one click root function in the toolkit by mskip, but I have seen the website oneclickroot.com which says this: Remember: One Click Root is 100% guaranteed to work and the process is completely risk-free. It is currently in beta and will apparently be running properly in a couple of weeks.
Is this legit and is it really any safer than the toolkit??
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need to post 10 times, so I'll answer even though you probably are past this. I used the toolkit. I couldn't find anything 1-click for the nexus. Maybe I just missed it.

[Q] Apple fan boy running Cyan on first Android s4 with questions.

So I got an iPhone back in the day the day after they carrier unlocked it and hardware unlocked it aka serious nerd. I love jb'ed iphones and knew everything about them. I decided to switch to Android as I hear more and more good stories and developments.
I have a few questions:
1. Why does it say "AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Android Development" vs "AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Original Android Development"
The forum topics look differnt. I would guess original was first buyers and the other would be the future buyers?
2. Kernels vs Roms - Kernels is the OS and roms is the software/visual/tools.. right? So I installed TWRP and installed Cyan. It looks like it was a kernel + rom all included?
3. Why did I have to download a sound sync app to apply vibrate to apps when I put my phone on silent? Seems weird to me. I put my phone on silent and I expect everything to be silent.
4. I'm confused with Nandroid VS TWRP / Clockwork.
5. I see battery extenders but not batter cases? Also, do you think someone will make a wireless battery case?

1) Android ORIGINAL is stock Google like aokp and cm, they are the true stock bare bones without bloatware from att and samsung, its like iOS to apple.
Just Android Development is software like Touchwiz and Sense, manufacture and carrier version of Android, just mainly bloated and personalized
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Roms are the OS and everything visual, kernels are what run everything and tell the hardware what to do in the OS
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Just turn off all sounds in settings and it should do the trick
Nandroid is a Recovery Image File, like a backup. You have stock recovery, and twrp and cwm, stock is what you get when the phone comes to you from carrier, you must install custom recovery to flash ROMs and kernels and create and restore backups. Twrp and cwm do the same thing, so its just user preference
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They have Qi patches for the battery covers to enable wireless charging
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[Q] LG G2 Rom Questions

I am going to be getting a LG G2 Verizon - VS980 and I am fimliar with rooting but not with custom roms. I have a Nexus 10 so I never felt the need to fiddle with ROMs. I wanna install CyanogenMod Release candidate. I heard freegee and root are needed to install something that is needed for custom roms but I just don't quite have a full grasp on it. I am new at ROMs but not at rooting. Could someone point me in the right direction? Also I have a few questions.
Is the VS980 correct LG G2 for Verizon to get downloads from the CyanogenMod site?
Do you recommend any other roms besides CM? I like the Nexus line because it is simply stock android but I do like the feature over overclocking that CM offers I think with its 2Ghz it would be uneeded.

If your already on Verizon this about the best android device you can get right now I personally prefer the nexus 5 but I'm on Verizon so no nexus devices for us except the galaxy nexus which i maymake my my backup device oh and if you plan on getting the lg g2 you might wanna get one soon before you get an lg g2 with firmware that patches Loki
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Oh and yes the vs980 is the correct model number for CyanogenMod
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I'm on liquidsmooth I find it very stable occasionally freezes that's with all custom ROMs especially kitkat ROMs sometimes you have to hard reset which stinks but it will get more stable
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CombustLemonz said:
I am going to be getting a LG G2 Verizon - VS980 and I am fimliar with rooting but not with custom roms. I have a Nexus 10 so I never felt the need to fiddle with ROMs. I wanna install CyanogenMod Release candidate. I heard freegee and root are needed to install something that is needed for custom roms but I just don't quite have a full grasp on it. I am new at ROMs but not at rooting. Could someone point me in the right direction? Also I have a few questions.
Is the VS980 correct LG G2 for Verizon to get downloads from the CyanogenMod site?
Do you recommend any other roms besides CM? I like the Nexus line because it is simply stock android but I do like the feature over overclocking that CM offers I think with its 2Ghz it would be uneeded.
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You don't need root to flash custom roms you just need to unlock your bootloader
you can find that guide here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2224020
Personally I'd just root it since your new rom will be rooted anyway, it just makes life easier, and there are easier methods of unlocking the bootloader using root apps.
To answer your other questions I don't believe the cyanogenmod installer works on your device but it wouldn't hurt to give a shot. If your looking for a stock android feel cyanogen's the way to go I'd highly recommend it over any stock rom but try things for yourself and see what you like best.

spinninbsod said:
If your already on Verizon this about the best android device you can get right now I personally prefer the nexus 5 but I'm on Verizon so no nexus devices for us except the galaxy nexus which i maymake my my backup device oh and if you plan on getting the lg g2 you might wanna get one soon before you get an lg g2 with firmware that patches Loki
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Oh and yes the vs980 is the correct model number for CyanogenMod
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I'm on liquidsmooth I find it very stable occasionally freezes that's with all custom ROMs especially kitkat ROMs sometimes you have to hard reset which stinks but it will get more stable
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I am getting a LG G2 this Sunday or Saturday. Do you think that it will be to late? How do I tell if I have a version that has loki patched on it?

I would not try this on the g2 maybe it works maybe it doesent
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It shouldn't be to late were not expecting an ota till sometime in march you might be cutting it close depends when but as soon as you root install custom recovery or disable ota because lg will push updates to your device even if you say no and when your rooted it creates a mighty soft brick
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CombustLemonz said:
I am getting a LG G2 this Sunday or Saturday. Do you think that it will be to late? How do I tell if I have a version that has loki patched on it?
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You'll be good to go, probably not going to see an ota until the kk release which could be months away (Yay Verizon ). I just got mine today (Verizon) rooted using this method:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=48709232&postcount=869
And recovery using freegee. Effortless, and easy. Make sure you backup your efs in the freegee app and there is a better efs backup in the general section that you should do to.
And to reference another poster here, our bootloader is 100% locked. Root is required in order to apply the loki patch to flash a custom recovery. Loki allows a custom recovery to operate on the stock locked bootloader... You really won't know the difference from it being locked or unlocked.
-VZW LG G2 VS980

I just looked closer this unlock method is for the optimus 4g different hardware everything is different lg went the more locked down root with the g2
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Do you mind going into a little more detail about the Loki patch? My buddy is pretty into this stuff (I'm not, but I have a Nexus 7 and prefer the stock version instead of LGs), and said he'd be able to help me...well, he has a GS4, and it took him a while to figure out something was wrong with the boot loader (communicating long distance)...now were kinda stuck, and don't know what to do. I'm in almost the exact same situation as OP...VZW G2 that I'd like to put CM on.
Also...I think I may have messed up big time and rooted my phone before making any recovery files...the poster above talking about the upcoming OTA bricking phones....am I just sitting on a ticking time bomb?
Garsh that xda forums noob video is making me feel awfully stupid right now

amsage3 said:
Do you mind going into a little more detail about the Loki patch? My buddy is pretty into this stuff (I'm not, but I have a Nexus 7 and prefer the stock version instead of LGs), and said he'd be able to help me...well, he has a GS4, and it took him a while to figure out something was wrong with the boot loader (communicating long distance)...now were kinda stuck, and don't know what to do. I'm in almost the exact same situation as OP...VZW G2 that I'd like to put CM on.
Also...I think I may have messed up big time and rooted my phone before making any recovery files...the poster above talking about the upcoming OTA bricking phones....am I just sitting on a ticking time bomb?
Garsh that xda forums noob video is making me feel awfully stupid right now
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If you have a recovery
http://youtu.be/ifi-ArGeTzQ

If you have a recovery
(link)
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I do have a recovery...have tried with Clockwork Mod and TWRP, but basically what happens is if I try to do a manual boot in to recovery mode using the keys on the back, it just actually goes through with the factory reset of the phone. If I try to do it through an app like CWM or TWRP, I get the LG splash screen, and then the android logo with its chest open and the red exclamation point over it. If I let it sit and do nothing on that graphic, eventually the phone just resets. There is nothing else on that screen but that graphic.
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Even using Flashify, which claims to bypass this whole Lokis patch (still dont really understand what it is) didnt work...

amsage3 said:
I do have a recovery...have tried with Clockwork Mod and TWRP, but basically what happens is if I try to do a manual boot in to recovery mode using the keys on the back, it just actually goes through with the factory reset of the phone. If I try to do it through an app like CWM or TWRP, I get the LG splash screen, and then the android logo with its chest open and the red exclamation point over it. If I let it sit and do nothing on that graphic, eventually the phone just resets. There is nothing else on that screen but that graphic.
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Even using Flashify, which claims to bypass this whole Lokis patch (still dont really understand what it is) didnt work...
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Try to do through an app? You mean rom manager or twrp manager? If so it sounds like you still have the stock recovery, which would render those apps useless. Use the freegee app instead of flashify, it automatically downloads the correct recovery/loki patch and applies it.
Loki is simply a patch that tells the bootloader upon initial boot that it's OK to continue...Your bootloader is still locked, but the phone doesn't recognize that. If loki wasn't there, you'd just brick just like all the poor Verizon samsung users since the last update...
-VZW LG G2 VS980

annoyingduck said:
Try to do through an app? You mean rom manager or twrp manager? If so it sounds like you still have the stock recovery, which would render those apps useless. Use the freegee app instead of flashify, it automatically downloads the correct recovery/loki patch and applies it.
Loki is simply a patch that tells the bootloader upon initial boot that it's OK to continue...Your bootloader is still locked, but the phone doesn't recognize that. If loki wasn't there, you'd just brick just like all the poor Verizon samsung users since the last update...
-VZW LG G2 VS980
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THANK YOU!!!
I know it may be common knowledge to some, but to a complete newbie, this was the one bit of information I was missing that made a very frustrating process very simple. Many thanks to you my friend, if I could hit more than just a button to express it I would :highfive:

amsage3 said:
THANK YOU!!!
I know it may be common knowledge to some, but to a complete newbie, this was the one bit of information I was missing that made a very frustrating process very simple. Many thanks to you my friend, if I could hit more than just a button to express it I would :highfive:
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No problem. That's what these forums are all about...
-VZW LG G2 VS980

Google KitKat dialer on S4

Hello, I want sure where to post this since it's a general software question. I've been trying to get the KitKat dialer to work on my rooted s4. Im running the SS 4.4.2NC1 ROM. I've done everything to make it work. I've used the apk file and changed the permissions using es Explorer and tried flashing it in safestrap. Nothing has worked so far. I don't normally ask for help, but I'm stuck. Any suggestions?
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Mattx28025 said:
Hello, I want sure where to post this since it's a general software question. I've been trying to get the KitKat dialer to work on my rooted s4. Im running the SS 4.4.2NC1 ROM. I've done everything to make it work. I've used the apk file and changed the permissions using es Explorer and tried flashing it in safestrap. Nothing has worked so far. I don't normally ask for help, but I'm stuck. Any suggestions?
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Get an AOSP phone ;P
The issue might be with the fact that the stock ROM is odexed. Other than that, I'm not sure why unless it calls dependencies on other files also.
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Any update on this. Were you able to get it to work?
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How do you like running Blackbox on your phone. It looks like closest (working) AOSP themed rom out there.
DeadlySin9 said:
Get an AOSP phone ;P
The issue might be with the fact that the stock ROM is odexed. Other than that, I'm not sure why unless it calls dependencies on other files also.
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FYI I just flashed the zip from android police using safestrap 3.72 and the dialer works on mu NC1 based rooted phone

MatthewPresley said:
Any update on this. Were you able to get it to work?
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How do you like running Blackbox on your phone. It looks like closest (working) AOSP themed rom out there.
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Blackbox runs really well and the features are nice, but I've ditched it for the semi-functional GPE that's in the General section here.

Thanks for the reply. Besides flashing the zip via safestrap is there anything you need to do to make it work with the ATT S4? Also do you know if you can enable soft keys on that rom?
I'm tempted to flash the GPE but feel like I should wait until chrome and paid apps work before flashing
DeadlySin9 said:
Blackbox runs really well and the features are nice, but I've ditched it for the semi-functional GPE that's in the General section here.
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MatthewPresley said:
Thanks for the reply. Besides flashing the zip via safestrap is there anything you need to do to make it work with the ATT S4? Also do you know if you can enable soft keys on that rom?
I'm tempted to flash the GPE but feel like I should wait until chrome and paid apps work before flashing
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I've gotten used to Firefox and I don't have paid apps, so it's not an issue for me. But you just flash it like any other ROM. Soft keys aren't a built in option AFAIK but I think Gravitybox has something for them.

Freeing Up Ram, newly rooted

Today, I finally rooted my droid x running Android 2.3.4, System 45.621.10 using framaroot. I have never rooted a phone but finally got tired of low ram of this phone lagging it up. Who does a newbie start to free up some ram?
All, I have done at this point is run framaroot, choose supersu and verified root access through root checker.
I've read about apps that let's you freeze, rename, or delete apps.
I came here for better instructions as I do not want to brick my phone. I'd prefer to do minimum tweaking if that's possible and achieve my objective.
Any instructions or advice would be greatly appreciated. Also, I do not use Verizon as a carrier any longer so removing their apps wouldn't be an issue.

I know you said that you wanted minimal tweaking, but this is definably the way to go in terms of performance and free ram. The newest build is located in the OP's three hostings
. Make sure to read everything in the OP and Happy Flashing!
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2670547