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[ROOT] Saferoot: VZW SCH-I435 (& others), no Kingo, will NOT trip KNOX (0x0)

Disclaimer: You are fully responsible for anything you do to your phone. This is the safest method possible but there are always risks involved. If you brick your phone, or have any otherwise negative effects no one here is at fault.
I am not a developer and can take no credit for this (and consequently cannot provide support for this)! All credit and thanks go to @k1mu for this method.
For those of you who want root access to your phone and do not want to use Kingo (root without Kingo) here is a safe method. The best part is if it doesn't work there is no harm done to your phone, it simply will not root. This will provide root on the stock software and DOES NOT trip the KNOX flag (your KNOX flag will remain 0x0). The way to trip the KNOX flag is by changing the kernel or bootloader/recovery and this does neither. It may change the System Status to "Custom" (this can be seen in Download Mode or in the phone's menu under Settings->About Phone->Status->Device Status) but there are ways to change that, see the details in the original post.
This does not unlock the boot loader, does not install a custom recovery or allow you to load custom ROMs.
@k1mu created this method using an Experia exploit and modifying it for the Galaxy S4 full size, however it works for many other Android devices. I used this to root a Verizon Galaxy S4 Mini SCH-I435 and other people have reported this working for the S3, Note 2, other carrier phones and some non-Samsung devices.
This will provide root access on your phone and install SuperSU. This works with Android 4.3 as well as 4.2.2.
Here's the basic steps to root your S4 Mini (for the full step-by-step visit the thread):
1. Setup USB drivers on your computer.
2. Enable USB debugging on your phone.
3. Enable USB ADB access.
4. Download and unzip the Saferoot.zip
5. Root your phone
6. Click "Thanks" on k1mu's thread for this (yes I added this step ).
If you have questions or run into problems reply to k1mu's thread. He is very helpful and quick to reply.
If you find yourself needing to unroot, visit post #2 in the original thread and follow the steps. You can find SCH-I435 stock firmware and Verizon software in this thread (post #10 & #12). I HAVE NOT TRIED THESE SO USE AT YOUR OWN DISCRETION.

List of devices this is confirmed working for:
Verizon SCH-I435
GT-I9190
GT-I9195 some variants (see post 33)
GT-I8190 (S3 Mini)
Devices this does not work for:
GT-I9195 some variants (see post 23-31)
Let me know if this works for your phone and I'll add it to the list.

What was the value of Knox counter in Download Mode after rooting with this method?
Thanks

newarkoz said:
What was the value of Knox counter in Download Mode after rooting with this method?
Thanks
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The KNOX flag is 0x0. Your warranty will be intact.
I'll upload a picture as soon as I can take one.

newarkoz said:
What was the value of Knox counter in Download Mode after rooting with this method?
Thanks
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This root technique doesn't touch the Knox Warranty Void flag as it doesn't try to flash anything (kernel, bootloader, etc.)
It does, however, set the "Custom" flag at boot. See post #2 in the original thread for ways to clear that.
It does NOT unlock the bootloader. Don't go off flashing AOSP or CM after you root, as those WILL set the Knox Warranty Void flag.

k1mu said:
This root technique doesn't touch the Knox Warranty Void flag as it doesn't try to flash anything (kernel, bootloader, etc.)
It does, however, set the "Custom" flag at boot. See post #2 in the original thread for ways to clear that.
It does NOT unlock the bootloader. Don't go off flashing AOSP or CM after you root, as those WILL set the Knox Warranty Void flag.
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Here you have it straight from the source!
Interestingly it didn't change the custom flag on the phone I rooted. Download mode shows system status is "Official" and the device status in the menu also still says "Official."

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postal302 said:
Disclaimer: You are fully responsible for anything you do to your phone. This is the safest method possible but there are always risks involved. If you brick your phone, or have any otherwise negative effects no one here is at fault.
I am not a developer and can take no credit for this (and consequently cannot provide support for this)! All credit and thanks go to @k1mu for this method.
For those of you who want root access to your phone and do not want to use Kingo (root without Kingo) here is a safe method. The best part is if it doesn't work there is no harm done to your phone, it simply will not root. This will provide root on the stock software and DOES NOT trip the KNOX flag (your KNOX flag will remain 0x0). It may change the System Status to "Custom" (this can be seen in Download Mode or in the phone's menu under Settings->About Phone->Status->Device Status) but there are ways to change that, see the details in the original post.
This does not unlock the boot loader, does not install a custom recovery or allow you to load custom ROMs.
@k1mu created this method using an Experia exploit and modifying it for the Galaxy S4 full size, however it works for many other Android devices. I used this to root a Verizon Galaxy S4 Mini SCH-I435 and other people have reported this working for the S3, Note 2, other carrier phones and some non-Samsung devices.
This will provide root access on your phone and install SuperSU. This works with Android 4.3 as well as 4.2.2.
Here's the basic steps to root your S4 Mini (for the full step-by-step visit the thread):
1. Setup USB drivers on your computer.
2. Enable USB debugging on your phone.
3. Enable USB ADB access.
4. Download and unzip the Saferoot.zip
5. Root your phone
6. Click "Thanks" on k1mu's thread for this (yes I added this step ).
If you have questions or run into problems reply to k1mu's thread. He is very helpful and quick to reply.
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What variations of the S4 Mini will this work on? for instance my one ( GT-I9190 )?

The Jinxer said:
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What variations of the S4 Mini will this work on? for instance my one ( GT-I9190 )?
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There's tons of other options for GT*'s (flashes, roms, roots). I'd suggest checking them out. The verizon version (SCH*) was the one lacking safe root.

joetrizeo said:
There's tons of other options for GT*'s (flashes, roms, roots). I'd suggest checking them out. The verizon version (SCH*) was the one lacking safe root.
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I know that. Just want to know if it will work. I don't want to trigger any warnings like knox or safe boot Etc since Android and Samsung stepped up their security

The Jinxer said:
What variations of the S4 Mini will this work on? for instance my one ( GT-I9190 )?
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This is fairly new in the Mini world so I'm not sure which ones this method is confirmed for, but it should work for most any of the models. Over in the full size S4 forums it seems the AT&T phones are preventing root but others are having success. I don't see why it wouldn't work on your 9190, but the beauty of it is if it doesn't work there's no harm done. The ADB debugger will simply stop and your phone will remain unrooted, it's worth a shot.
If it does work let me know. I've started a list in post 2 of Minis that have successfully rooted using this method.
joetrizeo said:
There's tons of other options for GT*'s (flashes, roms, roots). I'd suggest checking them out. The verizon version (SCH*) was the one lacking safe root.
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There's a root method listed for the 9190 somewhere here in the forums but I believe it trips the KNOX flag and voids warranty. The post doesn't say whether it does or not, but gathering from what others have said in the thread it appears to change the KNOX flag to 0x1.

postal302 said:
This is fairly new in the Mini world so I'm not sure which ones this method is confirmed for, but it should work for most any of the models. Over in the full size S4 forums it seems the AT&T phones are preventing root but others are having success. I don't see why it wouldn't work on your 9190, but the beauty of it is if it doesn't work there's no harm done. The ADB debugger will simply stop and your phone will remain unrooted, it's worth a shot.
If it does work let me know. I've started a list in post 2 of Minis that have successfully rooted using this method.
There's a root method listed for the 9190 somewhere here in the forums but I believe it trips the KNOX flag and voids warranty. The post doesn't say whether it does or not, but gathering from what others have said in the thread it appears to change the KNOX flag to 0x1.
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looks like it worked, but i think i am seeing a slight performance decrease... unrooting... but thanks
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tried rooting again, seems to have no performance issues... maybe my phone was just reacting to its anal rape via usb

The Jinxer said:
looks like it worked, but i think i am seeing a slight performance decrease... unrooting... but thanks
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tried rooting again, seems to have no performance issues... maybe my phone was just reacting to its anal rape via usb
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I'd give it a couple days to adjust to it's new digs. I loaded a new kernel on my S3 which was supposed to improve battery life, day one was terrible but from then on it did in fact improve. I wasn't a believer in letting the phone "settle in"until then.
For curiosity sake, what did you do to unroot? Did it return the custom flag to official if it changed?
Can I count this as confirmed for the I9190?

You can definitely count this as confirmed. I'm not sure if the custom flag has been tripped. Nothing has changed in the About device settings

postal302 said:
Disclaimer: You are fully responsible for anything you do to your phone. This is the safest method possible but there are always risks involved. If you brick your phone, or have any otherwise negative effects no one here is at fault.
I am not a developer and can take no credit for this (and consequently cannot provide support for this)! All credit and thanks go to @k1mu for this method.
For those of you who want root access to your phone and do not want to use Kingo (root without Kingo) here is a safe method. The best part is if it doesn't work there is no harm done to your phone, it simply will not root. This will provide root on the stock software and DOES NOT trip the KNOX flag (your KNOX flag will remain 0x0). It may change the System Status to "Custom" (this can be seen in Download Mode or in the phone's menu under Settings->About Phone->Status->Device Status) but there are ways to change that, see the details in the original post.
This does not unlock the boot loader, does not install a custom recovery or allow you to load custom ROMs.
@k1mu created this method using an Experia exploit and modifying it for the Galaxy S4 full size, however it works for many other Android devices. I used this to root a Verizon Galaxy S4 Mini SCH-I435 and other people have reported this working for the S3, Note 2, other carrier phones and some non-Samsung devices.
This will provide root access on your phone and install SuperSU. This works with Android 4.3 as well as 4.2.2.
Here's the basic steps to root your S4 Mini (for the full step-by-step visit the thread):
1. Setup USB drivers on your computer.
2. Enable USB debugging on your phone.
3. Enable USB ADB access.
4. Download and unzip the Saferoot.zip
5. Root your phone
6. Click "Thanks" on k1mu's thread for this (yes I added this step ).
If you have questions or run into problems reply to k1mu's thread. He is very helpful and quick to reply.
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Just want to mention, I went into odin mode to check my knox status, and there is no mention of knox whatsoever??? i want to make sure my knox status isn't 0x1 but it looks like its gone? i thought knox flag was set by hardware? the eFuse or something

Has anyone tried it with the GT-I9195 model?
And more specific with the I9195XXUBMJ7 firmware, will this method trip knox warranty void?

dermousis said:
Has anyone tried it with the GT-I9195 model?
And more specific with the I9195XXUBMJ7 firmware, will this method trip knox warranty void?
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doubt it man, this method is still new. if anything you could be the one to test, as i did, i do have my warranty at stake, but cant be sure if its void since im not seeing ANY flags, the knox app is still there, but if i go to odin download mode, no knox entries appear.

The Jinxer said:
doubt it man, this method is still new. if anything you could be the one to test, as i did, i do have my warranty at stake, but cant be sure if its void since im not seeing ANY flags, the knox app is still there, but if i go to odin download mode, no knox entries appear.
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That is because u don`t have NEW bootloader yet
Just to be sure tell me what u see in *#1234#
U are in luck so to speak u have old firmware that does not contain Knox bootloader only Knox apps that are harmless without bootloader
U can use this guide : when a new firmware comes out Just don`t update with Kies/OTA and u are good to go

SilviuMik said:
That is because u don`t have NEW bootloader yet
Just to be sure tell me what u see in *#1234#
U are in luck so to speak u have old firmware that does not contain Knox bootloader only Knox apps that are harmless without bootloader
U can use this guide : when a new firmware comes out Just don`t update with Kies/OTA and u are good to go
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AP: I9190XXUAMF7
CP: (same as above)
CSC: I9190OJVAMG1
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i dont really mind having the knox bootloader when an OTA rolls out, i want the new version of android more than I want to root it

The Jinxer said:
AP: I9190XXUAMF7
CP: (same as above)
CSC: I9190OJVAMG1
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i dont really mind having the knox bootloader when an OTA rolls out, i want the new version of android more than I want to root it
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U don`t have the new bootloader Only from MK* MJ* ML* came the new bootloader
Well, u know better what u want from your phone
U can use Kies/OTA and stock rom no root / no different kernel and battery drain for now and hope Samsung will fix it on KitKat ( I did write to them on all channels how to fix it but .... will take a loooong time
Or Odin Stock rom / custom rom + custom kernel + no battery drain
Anyway all this is off topic
Just wanted to let u know u are lucky and can do a thing about Knox Other updated and cry after ^^
Take care mate

so you are saying i am safe from knox warranty void 0x1????
ERMAGEHRD

Can i root my note 3?

I just got my note 3 today... can i root it? i try to google it but i didnt found the anwser that ive been looking for... help me pleasee... below is my screenshot of my os... and if i can root it how? Can any1 share a link for me...
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I would say yes if you don't mind to trip off the knox flag.
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try this link before?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2466423
[SM-N900*] CF-Auto-Root
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http://www.droidreport.com/how-root-samsung-galaxy-note-3-running-android-442-kitkat-xxuenb3-6273 here you go good luck having any fun with Knox though. That is your version to. SM-N9005. You will trip Knox with this. Which you can't change back :banghead:
BTW not liable for any bricks that occur. You are choosing to make these modifications your self and I can't help if you turn your phone into a useless brick.
Good luck.
Sent from my Rezound using xda-developers app. CyanogenMod 11. S-off

pball52998 said:
http://www.droidreport.com/how-root-samsung-galaxy-note-3-running-android-442-kitkat-xxuenb3-6273 here you go good luck having any fun with Knox though. That is your version to. SM-N9005. You will trip Knox with this. Which you can't change back :banghead:
BTW not liable for any bricks that occur. You are choosing to make these modifications your self and I can't help if you turn your phone into a useless brick.
Good luck.
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ohh my sorry for my 1million question... but what is KNOX?? looks like note 3 is much more complex than s3 huh? i want to use custom rom....

Knox is the security precaution behind Samsung now. Its just basically saying you rooted your phone. Does your phone come with a locked bootloader or are you unlocked by default? Knox will also stop you from downgrading. If you try your phone is straight dead... But you should be able to use safesteap I think.... I think safe strap is out for this one. I can see if I can find it if you would like...
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pball52998 said:
Knox is the security precaution behind Samsung now. Its just basically saying you rooted your phone. Does your phone come with a locked bootloader or are you unlocked by default? Knox will also stop you from downgrading. If you try your phone is straight dead... But you should be able to use safesteap I think.... I think safe strap is out for this one. I can see if I can find it if you would like...
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oh i believe my note 3 is factory unlocked... omg now im scared hahahah by rooting my phone there is chance for me to brick it?

Fizie said:
oh i believe my note 3 is factory unlocked... omg now im scared hahahah by rooting my phone there is chance for me to brick it?
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Well think, there's always a chance to brick any device. I thought I bricked my phone I was stuck in a massive bootloop a few weeks ago. lol. But as long as you follow instructions you should be okay Just read, read, and read the instructions over and over, are you on Verizon? If so you have a locked bootloader. Nobody has found a way to bypass the bootloader like the G2 has with the loki flash. Somebody correct me if I'm wrong. But for right now, the only thing that the Note 3 has is safestrap. Which someone correct me if I'm wrong again. Before you do anything, do you care about voiding the warranty??

Would also suggest to go to settings and make sure re-activation lock is set to "OFF" before flashing...

Just trip the knox counter and install custom ROM then you can use your NOTE 3 at its full potential. I would also suggest to root using cf-autoroot via Odin Mode. Worked every time for me. Good luck on rooting.

Ninimo said:
Just trip the knox counter and install custom ROM then you can use your NOTE 3 at its full potential. I would also suggest to root using cf-autoroot via Odin Mode. Worked every time for me. Good luck on rooting.
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It's not really advisable to tell people to "Just trip the knox counter and install custom ROM" when they have just got the device and have a lot to read up on still. - Especially when the first question they ask is "Can I root my Note 3?"
It's easier regardless of your opinon or anyone else's to let the OP know the facts, the risks and the issues that may come and let them decide. :good:
Welcome to XDA also

radicalisto said:
It's not really advisable to tell people to "Just trip the knox counter and install custom ROM" when they have just got the device and have a lot to read up on still. - Especially when the first question they ask is "Can I root my Note 3?"
It's easier regardless of your opinon or anyone else's to let the OP know the facts, the risks and the issues that may come and let them decide. :good:
Welcome to XDA also
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I just helped him, he's rooted now. Running I think devinci ROM with aosp theme. Then with CWM as recovery.
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pball52998 said:
I just helped him, he's rooted now. Running I think devinci ROM with aosp theme. Then with CWM as recovery.
Sent from my Rezound using xda-developers app. CyanogenMod 11. S-off
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:good:

[Q] Just rooted my M17 on 4.3.. Knox 0x0

I have rooted my phone while not tripping KNOX, I am still on M17 4.3 that came with my phone. I am trying to upgrade to KitKat, as I have heard from numerous people in my area that the signal has improved dramatically for LTE and 4G.
1. How do I go about upgrading to KitKat without tripping KNOX or losing root? Is that possible at this juncture?
2. Can I upgrade to a custom Kitkat ROM while also recieving my signal upgrade? Or do I have to upgrade to an official firmware/ROM first before I recieve the better signal?
Thank you very much for the knowledge!!

Upgrading to stock 4.4 won't trip your knox but custom 4.4 will most probably do.

So should I take the Ota update or what? Will I lose root?

t3tr1s_ said:
So should I take the Ota update or what? Will I lose root?
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If you already have the ota for your carrier/device then go for it. You might loose root as this is official but you can root again after if that is the case.

Will OTA trip Knox?

device modified cannot update ota is the error I am getting. What do I do from here to update my device?

t3tr1s_ said:
device modified cannot update ota is the error I am getting. What do I do from here to update my device?
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Read carefully the thread about Mobile Odin Pro in the General subforum.

t3tr1s_ said:
device modified cannot update ota is the error I am getting. What do I do from here to update my device?
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You have to unroot.
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xclub_101 said:
Read carefully the thread about Mobile Odin Pro in the General subforum.
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Ignore this guy. You can't go from 4.3 to 4.4 with mobile Odin as it doesn't flash bootloaders.
Sent from my SM-N9005 using Tapatalk

Ok, so Mobile Odin does not allow me to flash or update to 4.4...If I so choose can I loose root and update to Kitkat OTA?
And if I don't want to lose root, how can I update 4.3 to the latest version and what version would work for my N900T Tmobile? My signal is horrible stock. I keep hearing I can flash to the latest UK version but that doesn't seem right?

t3tr1s_ said:
Ok, so Mobile Odin does not allow me to flash or update to 4.4...If I so choose can I loose root and update to Kitkat OTA?
And if I don't want to lose root, how can I update 4.3 to the latest version and what version would work for my N900T Tmobile? My signal is horrible stock. I keep hearing I can flash to the latest UK version but that doesn't seem right?
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No matter what people without a clue around here say, Mobile Odin Pro + normal Odin DO let you update to KitKat AND keep knox 0x0. READ THAT THREAD!
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dr.m0x said:
Ignore this guy. You can't go from 4.3 to 4.4 with mobile Odin as it doesn't flash bootloaders.
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While it does not itself flash bootloaders it does let you go to 4.4 AND keep knox 0x0. READ THE THREAD!

No need to read it. I've tried it and it didn't work. Have you?
No need to call me a moron either then edit your post. No need to hurl personal insults over a difference of opinion.
Sent from my SM-N9005 using Tapatalk

But all in all, if nobody noticed, this is spoon feeding at its finest. There are till now thousands of threads regarding this subject.
Sent from my N9005

t3tr1s_ said:
Ok, so Mobile Odin does not allow me to flash or update to 4.4...If I so choose can I loose root and update to Kitkat OTA?
And if I don't want to lose root, how can I update 4.3 to the latest version and what version would work for my N900T Tmobile? My signal is horrible stock. I keep hearing I can flash to the latest UK version but that doesn't seem right?
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There is a guide at the link below specifically for tmobile on how to upgrade to 4.4. Maybe you can post your question there as most likely someone in the same situation as you have posted there. As far as tripping knox, as long as you flash official 4.4 firmware it will not trip. Rooting and custom recovery on 4.4 I don't know since I don't have the tmo one.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2672393
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dr.m0x said:
No need to read it. I've tried it and it didn't work. Have you?
No need to call me a moron either then edit your post. No need to hurl personal insults over a difference of opinion.
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I did not only read it but i was the guy that actually suggested/asked Chainfire to add the extra feature in Mobile Odin Pro that makes it possible, and I also saw that pretty much everybody that was in that original thread and was able to read it also managed to do things right. Apparently you have not, and now you are whining around here about it without actually providing any information on what happened - were you unable to follow the procedure? Too bad for you Was it something in the procedure that could not work on YOUR SPECIFIC MODEL? That could be the only thing helpful and interesting to the other members, but I do not see any post from you with details, I only see whining with no details
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Dejan Sathanas said:
But all in all, if nobody noticed, this is spoon feeding at its finest. There are till now thousands of threads regarding this subject.
Sent from my N9005
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Yeah, that is one of the things that brings down the quality around XDA

xclub_101 said:
I did not only read it but i was the guy that actually suggested/asked Chainfire to add the extra feature in Mobile Odin Pro that makes it possible, and I also saw that pretty much everybody that was in that original thread and was able to read it also managed to do things right. Apparently you have not, and now you are whining around here about it without actually providing any information on what happened - were you unable to follow the procedure? Too bad for you Was it something in the procedure that could not work on YOUR SPECIFIC MODEL? That could be the only thing helpful and interesting to the other members, but I do not see any post from you with details, I only see whining with no details
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Yeah, that is one of the things that brings down the quality around XDA
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I bow down to you Oh great one. Might have apologied but since you called me a moron I won't, as I said. No need to hurl around personal insults.
Perhaps one day I can become as perfect as you and then I can also boost my ego by calling people who get things wrong by derogatory terms.
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dr.m0x said:
I bow down to you Oh great one. Might have apologied but since you called me a moron I won't, as I said. No need to hurl around personal insults.
Perhaps one day I can become as perfect as you and then I can also boost my ego by calling people who get things wrong by derogatory terms.
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Blah, blah, blah, you have still not provided any kind of real information for other people, you have basically misinformed one other user and misrepresented me and then you are whining since I called your **** out. More and more whiners, less and less people that read.

You are whining as well, though this is a waste of time pointing that out. If you have never been mistaken about anything in your life before feel free to keep talking though. I'm done, have a great life.
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[Discussion] KNOX Counter

I didn't find a topic about KNOX counter at least not in the S6 forums, I just wanted to make a topic where you can discuss what does or doesn't trip the KNOX counter.
In the past I have always flashed custom roms to all my devices, most of the times flashing a custom recovery was one of the first things I did. With this device I'm not sure what I'm going to do, it arrives later this week and I've read a lot of people are happy with with stock rom and don't see a benefit in voiding the warranty for de-bloating etc.
Do you care about KNOX warranty and it's features or not? If not why?
Things SHOULDN'T trip KNOX:
[ROOT] PingPongRoot ***S6 & S6 Edge Root Tool*** (Read instructions carefully!)
Things that do trip KNOX:
CF auto root
Flashing any unsigned image, whether a kernel, recovery or a custom ROM

From what I've read the only true importance of KNOX for the average user is the ability to use Samsung PAY. I'm waiting for it to be released and for people to test out the various roots/roms/exploits to see what trips knox, etc.
Although the stock ROM is good, I really wanna remove some of ATT's bloat :/ I'm sure a lot of people are in the same boat regarding carrier bloat.

I am still keeping my knox intact by ping pong root , i have removed many of the useless apps and installed some of my favorites apps for better battery management and used CSC Feature Expert for some tweaks . still waiting for custom rom that doesn't trip knox .

Sarmo94 said:
From what I've read the only true importance of KNOX for the average user is the ability to use Samsung PAY. I'm waiting for it to be released and for people to test out the various roots/roms/exploits to see what trips knox, etc.
Although the stock ROM is good, I really wanna remove some of ATT's bloat :/ I'm sure a lot of people are in the same boat regarding carrier bloat.
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Why not use debloater to disable the bloat in the mean time?

I haven't received my device yet but here in Australia they use the 920I version and back home in Belgium they use global 920F model. On a few Australian forums I've read that Samsung Australia doesn't give warranty to overseas models. On Yatango they sold both the 920I and the 920F, so I decided that I would take the global 920F since I will have to go back to Europe eventually... Normally I have 1 year of warranty trough Yatango while in Australia.
And in Belgium we normally have 2 years of warranty and since I'm buying the international unlocked version they sell in Belgium there should be no reason for Samsung to refuse me warranty if necessary.
Normally rooting and flashing CMW/Cyanogenmod is the first thing I do after opening the box of my device, but with my previous phones I had to use the warranty every time. First my Xiaomi M2s got an unresponsive screen and ghost touches, I got a brand new one from Xiaomi sold it and bought a Oneplus one. Sadly the same thing happened to that device after a month, I sent it back and got a new one that one worked for half a year until I was in Australia for a week. Same problem... So 3 times so far I had to deal with horrible Chinese customer service and had to get trough a lot of hassle to replace it, but this time Oneplus refused me warranty because they don't ship/pick up in Australia. That is the mean reason I just went for a Samsung now because for 1 I hope there devices are built better and because I just want to be able to have normal warranty.
With Oneplus, Xiaomi, ZTE etc you can just flash the fastboot image and lock the bootloader again and they don't refuse warranty, but with the S6 it would be a real shame if they would not fix a hardware issue because KNOX is tripped. Hopefully I won't need warranty this time!
I will see how annoying all the bloat ware is and if I really have to remove it with root or if just hiding it will be enough.

Well, what does trip Knox besides custom ROM's? Custom kernels? Xposed? Adblock? I have no clue.
And my last Samsung device was the original Note which didn't have Knox. When I got my One M7 I sweared I wouldn't touch Samsung's phones again, especially with their Knox/eFuse shenanigans. But right now the S6 is one of the best choices out there..

Just some information I got from a different forum (gsm forum) about knox on other samsung devices. It appears that devices with snapdragon chips use efuses and once blown they can not be reset but devices with exynos store that information in a special partition that can be erased and reprogramed with special software AND hardware.
There is also some information here on XDA on the note 3 and knox: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2642207

wacky.ddw said:
, I just wanted to make a topic where you can discuss what does or doesn't trip the KNOX counter.
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Flashing any unsigned image, whether a kernel, recovery or a custom ROM.
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LGSilva said:
Just some information I got from a different forum (gsm forum) about knox on other samsung devices. It appears that devices with snapdragon chips use efuses and once blown they can not be reset but devices with exynos store that information in a special partition that can be erased and reprogramed with special software AND hardware.
There is also some information here on XDA on the note 3 and knox: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2642207
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I wouldn't assume anything about the S6/S6E based on this.

Actually I have my Knox virgin, and I prefer to keep it this way, just because I don't want to perform a modify that can't be restored in the future (we may need it); and actually I don't feel the need for flashing anything that trips KNox, I'm happy with my stock rooted phone....

LGSilva said:
Just some information I got from a different forum (gsm forum) about knox on other samsung devices. It appears that devices with snapdragon chips use efuses and once blown they can not be reset but devices with exynos store that information in a special partition that can be erased and reprogramed with special software AND hardware.
There is also some information here on XDA on the note 3 and knox: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2642207
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Thanks for this, hopefully some solution pops up for the S6 as well!
CafeKampuchia said:
Flashing any unsigned image, whether a kernel, recovery or a custom ROM..
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I'll add that to the first post thanks!
gpvecchi said:
Actually I have my Knox virgin, and I prefer to keep it this way, just because I don't want to perform a modify that can't be restored in the future (we may need it); and actually I don't feel the need for flashing anything that trips KNox, I'm happy with my stock rooted phone....
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Yea I think I'm going to keep it stock and root as well I think, just to get rid of the bloat ware. With what did you remove it?
You used this? http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s6/general/safe-to-debloat-s6-threads-t3090383
KNOX Counter has the following benefits:
a. Even though your device is lost, the person who stole it cannot use it. Without your account, the device cannot be reset to factory settings and flashed with any ROM.
b. KNOX protects your private data and information with its advanced technology. Here is the official link to White Paper: An Overview of Samsung KNOX
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Is it really true that you can't factory reset or flash a rom without having my account? How about flashing stock trough odin? If this is true it would be a awesome feature if the device gets stolen they can't use it.

CafeKampuchia said:
Flashing any unsigned image, whether a kernel, recovery or a custom ROM.
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I wouldn't assume anything about the S6/S6E based on this.
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Well flashing a custom rom doesn't necessarily trip Knox. As long as you don't install a custom recovery you can flash a custom rom using flashfire.

morfini said:
Well flashing a custom rom doesn't necessarily trip Knox. As long as you don't install a custom recovery you can flash a custom rom using flashfire.
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That is in theory or you actually managed to flash a rom to your phone that way?
EDIT 1: They seem to be discussing that here as well: http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-galaxy-s6/general/flashfire-t3104060/page5

Flashing a recovery or a kernel will trip Knox...
Oh, I debloated manually...

wacky.ddw said:
That is in theory or you actually managed to flash a rom to your phone that way?
EDIT 1: They seem to be discussing that here as well: http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-galaxy-s6/general/flashfire-t3104060/page5
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No, not yet because every rom here contains Aroma installer which is not supported yet by flashfire. However Chainfire claims this will happen eventually. On Verizon s6 there are already three custom roms which can be flashed with flashfire. Only o custom recovery or a custom kernel will trip knox.

I thought you could use flashfire for T-mobile and flash custom roms.. You just have to remove the boot.img and the script that installs the kernal from the .ZIP
Thought they got looper installed with flashfire

morfini said:
No, not yet because every rom here contains Aroma installer which is not supported yet by flashfire. However Chainfire claims this will happen eventually. On Verizon s6 there are already three custom roms which can be flashed with flashfire. Only o custom recovery or a custom kernel will trip knox.
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Yea I've seen your name pop up a lot in the flashfire topic, I've read some people successfully flashed a from without kernel trough flashfire. Guess we just have to be patient for now.

xposed ll trip knox?

I'm sitting here thinking like "Should I do it? Should I trip Knox? Should I install TWRP?"
I've rooted and flashed all my phones so far but there aren't any good ROMs yet for the S6 which would make that decision a really good one...

EpicLPer said:
I'm sitting here thinking like "Should I do it? Should I trip Knox? Should I install TWRP?"
I've rooted and flashed all my phones so far but there aren't any good ROMs yet for the S6 which would make that decision a really good one...
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Same here. I am itching to flash and root on this device but still waiting till at least one fully stable ROM for a daily driver.
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wacky.ddw said:
Do you care about KNOX warranty and it's features or not? If not why?
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I've been using iPhones for years before my S6. Every single iPhone I've had since the 3GS I've always jailbroken and hacked. I was certainly not going to care about Knox now that I have an android.
I'm using XtreStoLite ROM and loving it.
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mauley said:
Same here. I am itching to flash and root on this device but still waiting till at least one fully stable ROM for a daily driver.
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[URL="http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s6/development/rom-xtrestolite-deodexed-mod-edition-1-0-t3094423"]Here is a fully stable and amazing ROM.

G935f rooting question.. Buying question, Please advise. Help needed!

I'm about to buy an international G935F Galaxy s7 edge. And sell my Tmobile usa g935t, all this because I want real full root, twrp, rom development, etc...
I've never had an international version before and want to verify rooting a G935f is possible even currently today (may 2017) with all current updates. I'm assuming when I get it (I'll be buying a used device second hand online) the previous owner will undoubtedly factory reset it and/or simply Odin a fresh current firmware.
Assuming that's the case, rooting a G935f should be fine and can be done right?
Are there any differences between the 935f versions? Do I need to ask any questions before hand? Should I be looking for anything specific? Specific quirks, etc....
I do live in the usa, I'll be using Tmobile usa on the device exclusively. I do not travel... I'm only buying the international variant strictly to get real full root, twrp, and rom development.
Any advice will be appreciated. Thank you for reading.
Sent from my Rooted Galaxy S7 EDGE on Android 7.0 Nougat, here's the instructions how to do it!

my advice? don't root at all only decent thing I could do with it was change boot animation the rest could be mostly be done on unrooted devices...overall a waste of time and not worth voiding warranty
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No problem rooting G935F. I have the same phone.
I'm one of those users who can't live without rooting. I actually risk my phone warranty by rooting within 1 week from purchase. I've done this for all my phones, fortunately nothing bad yet happened that will need warranty repairs.
I'm using Tasker with Secure Settings for automation. Also Xposed for modifying system such as status bar and dpi among others.

Is there any issue using the G935F on tmobile? Does the 4x4 MIMO work? All the LTE/radio bands work for Tmobile?
Sent from my Rooted Galaxy S7 EDGE on Android 7.0 Nougat, here's the instructions how to do it!

Guys I still don't understand if I can root my G935F running Android 7.0 without tripping knox and warranty , can it be done ? I need to restore my titanium backups , Im fine with running stock firmware with root I just don't wanna void the warranty

tnbx said:
Guys I still don't understand if I can root my G935F running Android 7.0 without tripping knox and warranty , can it be done ? I need to restore my titanium backups , Im fine with running stock firmware with root I just don't wanna void the warranty
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Rooting trips Knox, period.
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HeatOfLisboa67 said:
my advice? don't root at all only decent thing I could do with it was change boot animation the rest could be mostly be done on unrooted devices...overall a waste of time and not worth voiding warranty
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Adblocker
Firewall
Backups
Propper buttons

android404 said:
Rooting trips Knox, period.
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Adblocker
Firewall
Backups
Propper buttons
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not worth voiding warranty
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HeatOfLisboa67 said:
not worth voiding warranty
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I'd easily pay 500 euros a year to not see adds (and I'm not going to have to payl). And I wouldn't use a phone daily without a firewall blocking every little icon pack from accessing my data.