Hey guys, I have a simple question which I could not find any answer to(or more accurately I found several conflicting answers to). My friend just bought an LG G2 through AT&T and he wants me to help him set it up(hes fleeing the sinking ship know as the H.M.S. Apple). I heard that the Verizon G2 has a root check and that if you root, then you can never un-root in such a way that it won't stay tripped. I was not able to find out if this is the case with the AT&T variant of the phone. I need to warn him about rooting if it's going to void his warranty. Before I do that I'd probably advise him to sell the G2 right away and use the money to buy a Nexus 5 like I have so he can do whatever the **** he wants to it! :good: So if someone could confirm 100% whether or not the AT&T can be rooted and then returned in case of warranty work or not, that would be great!
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I have a very noob question that I never found the answer for, partly because I didn't try hard to search, but does the MT3G come with an automatic 1 year warranty when I buy it or do I have to buy the warranty myself? I ask this because I'm afraid I might brick my phone some day and I want to know if it's safe for me to get a replacement for free or not.
If you brick your phone, warranty doesn't cover it. If they figure out that you've tampered with your phone then you're screwed. Some people are lucky though. I dunno how it works there but where I'm located, my magic came with 1yr warranty.
I bought mine full price without a contract from T-mobile and it came with a 1 year warranty.
Alright thanks guys, also, I thought if I was to say the phone bricked during an update I thought that would be legit.
Did anyone get the extra 9.99 warranty? I purchased it and I'm thinking about rooting. Since I never rooted in the past, am I missing out on anything special? I'm not into the custom roms, I like the Samsung rom. Reason I'm asking is I postponed the most recent update.
kipliq said:
Did anyone get the extra 9.99 warranty? I purchased it and I'm thinking about rooting. Since I never rooted in the past, am I missing out on anything special? I'm not into the custom roms, I like the Samsung rom. Reason I'm asking is I postponed the most recent update.
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I'm not sure what your question is. Is it about rooting? (there are guides in the "general" section that you can follow). Are you just wondering about who bought a warranty? (I have Square trade). Or, are you wondering if rooting voids the warranty? (In most cases, yes, but certain warranties allow for it, you have to ask or read the fine print).
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I'm not sure what your question is. Is it about rooting? (there are guides in the "general" section that you can follow). Are you just wondering about who bought a warranty? (I have Square trade). Or, are you wondering if rooting voids the warranty? (In most cases, yes, but certain warranties allow for it, you have to ask or read the fine print).
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I'm just scared to root since I purchased the att warranty. I check on Square trade warranty. Is the att warranty any good or am I throwing my money away.
kipliq said:
I'm just scared to root since I purchased the att warranty. I check on Square trade warranty. Is the att warranty any good or am I throwing my money away.
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I have read about people using the AT&T warranty OK, I guess it just comes down to preference. Read about each warranty and decide which one better fits your needs.
As far as rooting goes, read the guide(s) posted and decide if it is for you. There are ways to unroot if needed or you can always use ODIN to restore to stock firmware. Read about some of these topics and options and you will be able to make a better decision about what you want to do. Good luck.
Man, I am always bringing up the rear. Always late to the party.
I know att will void the warranty if it is rooted, had a friend go thru exactly that.
I think it depends on what rep you get at att.
The reason I'm thinking of rooting is to use about 3 apps, one is titanium backup and the other is floating apps i think it is called and last is what apps I can use in dual screen mode. The At&t deductible is $199 omg that is the price of the phone
Not sure if all the trouble is worth rooting.
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The reason I'm thinking of rooting is to use about 3 apps, one is titanium backup and the other is floating apps i think it is called and last is what apps I can use in dual screen mode. The At&t deductible is $199 omg that is the price of the phone
Not sure if all the trouble is worth rooting.
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Sure, go for it. If you need to warranty it, you can unroot. Just make sure you do a lot of reading and get everything together before hand...that will make everything a lot easier. Go check Square trade out...it might be a better option for you.
Supposedly untouched brand new in box "unlocked". When I went to give it the ol rootaroo found the knox at 0x1. So here is my question.
Other than screwing me out of the warranty, what other problems will this cause me?
It's a tmobile. What happens when kit kat comes along, or any other update, am I going to be able to update? As of now, there are no roms, so I am stuck with what samsung sends down the pike and if I cant even get that then what good is the phone. I put in an open case, but if it's not going to screw me up too bad, I might just keep it. However, at 649, for another 50 I can buy one straight from tmobile. Should I return it?
Regards,
J
jackler1 said:
Supposedly untouched brand new in box "unlocked". When I went to give it the ol rootaroo found the knox at 0x1. So here is my question.
Other than screwing me out of the warranty, what other problems will this cause me?
It's a tmobile. What happens when kit kat comes along, or any other update, am I going to be able to update? As of now, there are no roms, so I am stuck with what samsung sends down the pike and if I cant even get that then what good is the phone. I put in an open case, but if it's not going to screw me up too bad, I might just keep it. However, at 649, for another 50 I can buy one straight from tmobile. Should I return it?
Regards,
J
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Aside from the warranty which you have mentioned, Not a lot else except KNOX functions (which unless you use for company purposes is useless to the every day user 99% of the time) -
As for returning it, it's up to you, if you feel you have been tricked into buying a phone with no warranty and mis sold, then return it
It was misrepresented as "new" so you do have an option to return. Hopefully you paid via paypal or a secure way as I wouldn't trust them to return the monies voluntarily.
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Supposedly untouched brand new in box "unlocked". When I went to give it the ol rootaroo found the knox at 0x1. So here is my question.
Other than screwing me out of the warranty, what other problems will this cause me?
It's a tmobile. What happens when kit kat comes along, or any other update, am I going to be able to update? As of now, there are no roms, so I am stuck with what samsung sends down the pike and if I cant even get that then what good is the phone. I put in an open case, but if it's not going to screw me up too bad, I might just keep it. However, at 649, for another 50 I can buy one straight from tmobile. Should I return it?
Regards,
J
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It is not new. Return.
And don't buy electrical things at eBay unless you want to take risk.
A friend recently bought what was supposed to be a used, unlocked AT&T S3 on Amazon, to use on T-Mobile. When she got it I discovered that it is actually a T-Mobile S3. She had problems getting any data connection on it and after speaking with T-Mobile tech support for a few days they ran her IMEI and said they would honor the warranty, she explained that she bought it from a 3rd party and that they said that it doesn't have a warranty but the tech said not to worry, it is covered by the manufacturer. T-Mobile is currently sending her another S3 at no cost.
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Aside from the warranty which you have mentioned, Not a lot else except KNOX functions (which unless you use for company purposes is useless to the every day user 99% of the time) -
As for returning it, it's up to you, if you feel you have been tricked into buying a phone with no warranty and mis sold, then return it
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So are you saying that should updates come, such as kit kat, I will have no problems getting said updates?
I just want to make sure the phone isn't locked out from updates, won't care if I ever get roms.....
Yeah you'll get updates, if you're rooted you won't get them via OTA though. You'll have to use KIES or flash via ODIN. Not really a massive task tbh
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.... and you'll probably get those updates much faster here on XDA than you will via OTA updates anyway!
I have a new Note 3 sitting in an unopened box on my desk. I have read (after ordering it) about KNOX and that there's currently no ROMs available.
I intend to go to my AT&T store today and either get this thing activated or exchange it (hoping they will) for either a GS4 or a GN2 to replace my GS3.
I am no pro at modifying the device but I have applied a couple of dozen ROMs and usually went back to factory due to some weirdness with some apps. I sorta settled on just having it rooted so I could use WiFi and tethering.
I would be happy with having just that for now on the GN3, are there good roots for the AT&T GN3 yet?
I confess I am a little worried about KNOX as well, I've never bricked a phone before and if I ruin it by hacking I'm okay with losing warranty support but I do not want to lose warranty for things I did not break like hardware. I'm guessing it is too soon to say but has anyone heard about Samsung giving grief to customers that have tripped the bit?
Does the GS4 also have KNOX?
Will I lose enough performance and features by downgrading to the Note2 to make that a bad choice?
Sorry for so many noob questions, but I know this is the place to get the truth.
Yes everything samsung device who run in android 4.3 have a knox app.. And why u want to downgrading ? The note 3 is most powerful phablet this year. Don't worry if u bricked your note 3,it s easy to fix it. Read forum on galaxy note 3-gn3 android development-soft bricked
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Edbert said:
I have a new Note 3 sitting in an unopened box on my desk. I have read (after ordering it) about KNOX and that there's currently no ROMs available.
I intend to go to my AT&T store today and either get this thing activated or exchange it (hoping they will) for either a GS4 or a GN2 to replace my GS3.
I am no pro at modifying the device but I have applied a couple of dozen ROMs and usually went back to factory due to some weirdness with some apps. I sorta settled on just having it rooted so I could use WiFi and tethering.
I would be happy with having just that for now on the GN3, are there good roots for the AT&T GN3 yet?
I confess I am a little worried about KNOX as well, I've never bricked a phone before and if I ruin it by hacking I'm okay with losing warranty support but I do not want to lose warranty for things I did not break like hardware. I'm guessing it is too soon to say but has anyone heard about Samsung giving grief to customers that have tripped the bit?
Does the GS4 also have KNOX?
Will I lose enough performance and features by downgrading to the Note2 to make that a bad choice?
Sorry for so many noob questions, but I know this is the place to get the truth.
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If you have MJ1 rom, look at *#1234#, then you could root folowing some guides in this forum, if it cames with MJ7, is not posiblle to root up to now, widout triping Knox and warranty.
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Fede
Thanks all.
I booted it up (box was already opened by AT&T to put sim in) without the sim card to check and it was MJ5. I was going to return it but found out that the Note2 is still $299 and I got this for only $225 as some special offer so I am going to keep it.
Plan to just root it and not use ROMs for a while.
THANKS AGAIN!
All Samsung new phone is came with KNOX now or later with upgrade will bring this stupid useless Knox.
Note 2 latest firmware 4.3 already came with it.
For those of you who root your phones, is it ever a problem when you come to sell it? Presumably you have to declare it's been rooted and Knox has been tripped, so things like Samsung Pay won't work.
That's pretty much all that's been holding me back rooting my S7 Edge.
No issues faced ever selling a rooted device here in India. Infact all of my devices are rooted the day they are unboxed
I have faced some issues with the selling of rooted devices
People here (Greece) know about the KNOX counter and they demand a very big discount from the price
I had issues with selling my old S6. I had the ad for 400 euros back then and because it was rooted he asked 250
Android pay will still work if unrooted right?
yes android pay will work.
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What's here to discuss? If you don't disclose the actual state of the good your selling, it's straight up fraud. In this case the missing ability to use Samsung My Knox due to a tripped Knox counter, plus the fact that it voids the warranty. After all, this device is marketed as one that can create secure containers using the My Knox app.
I hate idiots who think they're smart because they scam people. The final straw for me was this incident. Basically, I'm never going to buy a used/second hand device, ever. World is full of d*ckheads.
I've sold many, many rooted devices. I always explicitly told people about their bootloader and warranty state. I always write signed protocols that the buyer was thoroughly informed about the devices condition which s/he also has to read and sign.
Of course I sold those devices to a much lower price, which imho is the correct thing to do when you sell something of non-original, altered condition.
What about chinese phones? Some of them come pre rooted and well. Who knows if the manufacturer gives You warranty.
I've sold a couple of rooted phones but no one really cared about warranty, and I always was able to sell them for nearly full price. I never had a buyer that contacted me after buying the phone and complained. They all seemed happy. Probably because in my country such thing as warranty doesn't exist. Everyone orders replacement parts from the internet or they just buy a new device (mostly a worse one).
Pure luck none of them contacted you. Never had luck. Don't need it. Warranty exists where I live. 1. It'd be dishonest. 2. Don't have time for the headaches when problems occur because I wanted to earn some money in a highly questionable way. 3. I'd hate it if someone sold me a rooted device without telling me.
In Bosnia also nobody cares if the phone is rooted or not, you can tell them, but first most of people do no know what it means. I do not know anybody here who wants to use knox security features, and also here you have warranty just if you buy a new phone, if you buy it used there is no warranty anyway so it really does not matter here.
Unless you live in US and countries that have Android Pay selling rooted phones won't be a problem
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For those of you who root your phones, is it ever a problem when you come to sell it? Presumably you have to declare it's been rooted and Knox has been tripped, so things like Samsung Pay won't work.
That's pretty much all that's been holding me back rooting my S7 Edge.
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I sold my first s7 edge rooted on Kijiji. I just wrote that it had been rooted on the ad.
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i'm looking to buy a rooted s7 for verizon..
if anyone has one let me know..