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[Q] On my 3rd Nexus 7 in less than week - 4.1.2 update freeze ??

Hi Folks.
I bought a Nexus 7 last week. It worked faultlessly and very happy. It done a first system update with no problem. It then tried a second update to 4.1.2 Jelly Bean, which caused it to freeze upon start up at the Google "X" logo. I tried recovery and rebooting but no amount of resetting would allow it passed this point and therefore unable to access the unit.
I returned item to retailer as faulty and replaced this morning. This replacement done exact same thing following Jelly Bean 4.1.2 update. I spoke with Google play (not purchaased from them) who confirmed there have been similar issues for others, and that this replacement also needs to be returned.
I am now on my 3rd Nexus 7 .... It has updated to 4.1.1 with no issue earlier and is now inviting me to update to 4.1.2 which i am reluctant to do.
Can anyone confirm if they have had same problem & whether they got round this issue ??
Can i skip the 4.1.2 update & wait for the next update, or do i need to install to get to any new releases ??.
Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
Many thanks.

Anyone

The only way to block the updates is to root your device and freeze the update program. Google is annoying about this and always tries to force their updates down your throat, so you're going to keep getting this over and over.

RunNgun42 said:
The only way to block the updates is to root your device and freeze the update program. Google is annoying about this and always tries to force their updates down your throat, so you're going to keep getting this over and over.
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Thanks for response. Do you know whether as and when Google release a further update (ie 4.2) would I be able to download without downloading 4.1.2 ??

g4fne said:
Thanks for response. Do you know whether as and when Google release a further update (ie 4.2) would I be able to download without downloading 4.1.2 ??
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I personally dont know, but the info might be out there on some sort of public timeline. A lot of custom roms that you can download will already have the update process frozen so you dont have to worry about it if you plan on going that route.

Mystery system update

Hi all - I just received a notice on my Nexus 7 that there is a system update to install. I already installed 4.3 build JWR66V a couple weeks ago. Anyone know what this update is? I can't seem to find any information anywhere. My device is unlocked and rooted, running stock.

Yeah, google has released a newer version, so if you're on stock, why not update?
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It's an update from build JWR66V to JWR66Y, still Android 4.3.
If it's an OTA update, always install it.

It fixes a couple of issues after the 4.3 update
Sent from my Nexus 7(2012) that has zero issues.

Is it possible to update via ota when the device is unlocked and rooted? I updated it but it still says JWR66V, not Y. But when I look for an update it says up to date.
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Got the same issue as dakoookie
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Will this update unroot it?

Yes you'll still recieve the update it just hasnt been pushed to you yet if it says up to date. Factory images for it are already up waiting on someone to make a zip for CWM
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Will this update unroot it?
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OTA's always remove root

Apparently not. I updated but I still have root
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Me too, but gives error when installing =(
Rooter and bootloader unlock

Had an error at then end of the installation but looks like it succeed to update it coz when i started my device it said that my applications are optimizating for the new version or something like that.
Build is JWR66V now, there is no any system updates now. Root is still there.

nikola1970 said:
Had an error at then end of the installation but looks like it succeed to update it coz when i started my device it said that my applications are optimizating for the new version or something like that.
Build is JWR66V now, there is no any system updates now. Root is still there.
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Then the update failed the new OTA is JWR66Y

Lol the same questions.
Every.
Single.
Time.

FYI, I lost root.

Lost root also

NeoMagus said:
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Guess nobody believed me :silly:
Anybody working on a zip yet for the update??
If you lost root and it put you back on stock recovery just reflash your recovery then supersu

For the folks that are having "error" during the update, restart your n7 then clear cache and data from framework services and check for updates again and it should come up. Also make sure you at least have 80% battery level:good:

It's supposed to fix the phantom screen touch problem and a few other things I'm sure someone will come up with root G.B.Y.
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There's an OTA .zip for build JWR66Y here... but there appears to be a problem with symlink permisssions.
But there is also a solution here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1745781&page=53 and a modified version of the OTA that fixes the permissions. Worked for me flashing via TRWP.
Incidentally, I also lost root after upgrading... not sure why... but not a big problem, as I reflashed SuperSU v1.51 in TWRP.
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Not quite sure what this very minor upgrade is supposed to accomplish, given 4.3 was only rolled out 4 weeks or so, ago.... but I suspect it has a lot to do with a minor screwup on Googles part, the details of which can be found here... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2382880.
I think (and I could be wrong), build JWR66Y is {AOSP JSS15J + Gapps}... in other words, JSS15J, released as Factory Stock instead of AOSP.
And the full factory image of JWR66Y is already available on the Google Developer website here and it's immediate predecessor, JWR66V has been 'pulled' and is no longer available for download.
Anyway, take a look at the above link, and you should see what I'm getting at.
Rgrds,
Ged.

grouper zip that was linked worked great here. No issues here now

[Q] OTA updates with stock ROM/stock recovery but rooted

I ran a few searched but none provided me with the answer - sorry if it's been covered.
I am on pure stock right now (JDQ39 - 4.2.2) and getting the constant prompt to update to 4.3
For reasons too long to get into here I absolutely do not want to install 4.3
I do however want to turn off the OTA update prompt and have found several ways of doing that - the simplest and easiest way is using Autorun manager to disable the updater in part of the Google Services Framework apk, however I need to have root to do that.
I can root the phone, and keep everything else stock including the recovery, and then disable OTA updates for 4.3
My question is this:
If I do this, but am interested in installing Kit Kat OTA if it's released next week, is it as simple as re-enabling the updater using the reverse procedure in Autorun manager and then I should see the update for 4.4 Kit Kat?
Or will the system still want to update to OTA 4.3 before then giving me another update for 4.4? I refuse point blank to every have 4.3 on my phone, again I have a long list of valid reasons why I want to avoid 4.3 like the plague.
If so, my only option then would be to wait until someone posts a stock rooted version of 4.4 and then flash using the Nexus Toolkit in fastboot mode?
Appreciate any replies.
Thanks.

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Or will the system still want to update to OTA 4.3 before then giving me another update for 4.4? I refuse point blank to every have 4.3 on my phone, again I have a long list of valid reasons why I want to avoid 4.3 like the plague.
If so, my only option then would be to wait until someone posts a stock rooted version of 4.4 and then flash using the Nexus Toolkit in fastboot mode?.
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It would appear from other threads on this subject and various other sites, that you'll have to wait for the 4.4 images from Google if you don't want to first upgrade to 4.3. From what I gather researching the same question, to do the OTA to 4.4, you'd first have to accept the 4.3 upgrade, then the 4.3.1 upgrade and finally the 4.4.

That seems odd that you won't let it even touch your device. You should be able to update directly to the latest version, no need to do each update in between.
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korockinout13 said:
That seems odd that you won't let it even touch your device. You should be able to update directly to the latest version, no need to do each update in between.
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4.3 was a horrible alpha release IMO, creating many issues.
I'm rocking slim 4.2.2 build 8 until kit Kat hits.

[Q] Does rooting my Nexus causes OTA updates to fail?

Hi all,
I've been searching this forum (and the rest of the internet) for this question but there are not really similar answers.
I would like to root my nexus 4 just to be able to change the host file in the system folder. The rest if the phone I would like to remain stock (for now). But since android 4.4 is coming up I was wondering if it is still possible to receive the OTA update after performing this action.
Anyone knows an answer to this question?
Verstuurd van mijn Nexus 4

Mr. Tijntje said:
Hi all,
I've been searching this forum (and the rest of the internet) for this question but there are not really similar answers.
I would like to root my nexus 4 just to be able to change the host file in the system folder. The rest if the phone I would like to remain stock (for now). But since android 4.4 is coming up I was wondering if it is still possible to receive the OTA update after performing this action.
Anyone knows an answer to this question?
Verstuurd van mijn Nexus 4
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edit: I am checking on something for you... you will receive OTA updates but checking to see if host file is one of the files it checks before it upgrades.
More than likely any changes to your system folder will cause it too fail
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2417810

In my experience you still receive OTA updates, but you lose root while updating. I'm not sure if the hosts file is changed though.

If you're rooted and you've stock recovery then you'll be able to Upgrade but if you've rooted n installed 3rd party recovery then you'll receive update but it won't install. It will fail.

meZQureshi said:
If you're rooted and you've stock recovery then you'll be able to Upgrade but if you've rooted n installed 3rd party recovery then you'll receive update but it won't install. It will fail.
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Are you sure about that? I've been running cwm recovery ever since 4.2.0. Every ota update was received and installed without issues, but I always simply lost root until a new method for the new android release appeared.

You can still receive OTA but I would suggest not accepting it and flash it manually using a "safe" method. The OTA update from 4.2 to 4.3 caused problems on rooted phones. Usually it is fine but 4.3 changed the file system which caused the problem, so better be safe than sorry.
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Thank you all for your replies, this tells me again that it is quite difficult to say what happens. Since KitKat is probably coming to the Nexus 4 one of these days I will stay stock for now and decide later if I want to root my phone.

I used superSU Pro, and turned on "survival mode" when I did the OTA update to 4.3, and didn't have any problems losing root. Sometimes I'll get a message say I may have lost root access, but I've never had any problems with apps that require root.
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on the last update.. I wasn't getting the OTA until I unrooted. I think you have to unlock the bootloader too.. then I immediately received the OTA. I didn't have stock recovery. I was glad that I didn't have to wipe everything.. I then re-rooted.. was good to go.

[Q] 4.4 KitKat is still not available for me OTA (11/17/2013)

Hello fellow N10 owners,
Unfortunately, the OTA KitKat update for my N10 is still not available for download.
I have reset the Google Frameworks app, but that did not work.
I am running Android Version 4.3 build JWR66Y stock rooted.
If you guys have any suggestions I would really appreciate it. Also, If you would know
how I could keep root after the update that would be awesome!
Thank you

BosCeltics18 said:
Hello fellow N10 owners,
Unfortunately, the OTA KitKat update for my N10 is still not available for download.
I have reset the Google Frameworks app, but that did not work.
I am running Android Version 4.3 build JWR66Y stock rooted.
If you guys have any suggestions I would really appreciate it. Also, If you would know
how I could keep root after the update that would be awesome!
Thank you
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Mine is still not showing either......kinda depressing.

oakbowery said:
Mine is still not showing either......kinda depressing.
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USA?

BosCeltics18 said:
USA?
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Yes, Mississippi to be exact. I've hit the check now button 1,000 times I think.

oakbowery said:
Yes, Mississippi to be exact. I've hit the check now button 1,000 times I think.
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hahaha! same

Glad to know I'm not the only one. I was beginning to wonder if my tablet was screwed or something. I have a nexus 7 also and it has yet to get an OTA update either.

I from malaysia and also don't get any update message yet : \
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Perhaps Google is waiting for Kitkat to be released on the new Nexus 10 before updatring the original Nexus 10.

There is no new Google 10 and seriously once you get KitKat on your tablet you'll wish you hadn't, the OS is like a giant phone and isn't geared up for tablets.
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BackDaws said:
There is no new Google 10 and seriously once you get KitKat on your tablet you'll wish you hadn't, the OS is like a giant phone and isn't geared up for tablets.
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I disagree. With the exception of the PhoneUI settings screen it's exactly the same thing we had before with much improved performance and reliability. I'm so glad to get rid of 4.3.. Nothing but problems.

Maybe it's been pulled.
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Use Adb to sideload the ota zip if you do not want to wait
And I think KitKat is great on the n10, especially with the new launcher installed
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I'm still waiting too. I'm in London, UK.
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The full image is available on the Nexus factory images site. If you can't wait for the OTA, just download and flash that. Just remember to edit the batch file so you don't wipe everything. Here is the link.
https://developers.google.com/android/nexus/images?csw=1#mantarayjwr66y

Taking advantage of the topic, I'm from Brazil and me has not yet come to update my tablet version is also JWR66Y rooted, I need to get the root to update via OTA? Because I remember the last update to 4.3, when restarted I had problem with the boot image and had to use a tool to change the boot image

I waited, and waited, but gave up a couple nights ago. Seems to me, it should be like a voting system. The more manual update checks you do, the sooner you get it versus those that don't manually check. Those that don't realize the update is even or won't miss it for another few days.
Editing the -w out of the batch file was troublesome for me. The flag would complete and the tablet would reboot, but it would then hang on the nexus boot screen. Tried twice, but waiting a half an hour each time, I deemed it failure. Unexpected too since I had done a full wipe, factory fresh 4.3 the week prior.
Running the unedited batch with wipe went without a hitch. No biggie since I had done it recently.
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Bait-Fish said:
I waited, and waited, but gave up a couple nights ago. Seems to me, it should be like a voting system. The more manual update checks you do, the sooner you get it versus those that don't manually check. Those that don't realize the update is even or won't miss it for another few days.
Editing the -w out of the batch file was troublesome for me. The flag would complete and the tablet would reboot, but it would then hang on the nexus boot screen. Tried twice, but waiting a half an hour each time, I deemed it failure. Unexpected too since I had done a full wipe, factory fresh 4.3 the week prior.
Running the unedited batch with wipe went without a hitch. No biggie since I had done it recently.
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Yeah, I updated mine with the factory image several days ago...I decided to go ahead and let it do the full wipe since I was reading that folks were having issues after removing the "-w" flag. Full wipe is probably the way to go anyway if want to avoid bugs.
For anyone interested who hasn't done this before, I found the instructions here to be quite helpful:
http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/1...riants-of-nexus-7-2012-and-2013-and-nexus-10/

can i keep root with 4.4 OTA
Alright guys looks like I finally got the 4.4 OTA.
Anyone know how I can keep root???

Flash SuperSU from custom recovery. SuperSU v1.69 worked for me. The latest is 1.75.
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Worked thanks bud