[Q] Kernel issues - Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi
First post. Will try not to look the idiot or ask what has already been asked. Here goes, I am unable to find a kernel that actually improves my phone, i currently have the following -
Nexus 4
ROM - PSX V1
Moto x mod (great addition)
Stock kernel
I have tried two or three kernels including the new Trinity one which gave me a worse performance. Would someone point me in the right direction?
Could i also say a big thanks to PSX developer for a great ROM.
Regards.

Have you tried Franco...?
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did you try adjusting settings to your needs? considering the trinity kernel maxes at 1026mhz by default, until you adjust the cpu speed yourself.

So if I reinstalled trinity and used trickster to increase the cpu, I might get better results?
I haven't tried franco just yet.
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Right after a bit of trial and error I reckon I have cracked it.
PSX v1
Moto x
Trinity kernel
Results from antutu
22400
Results from Quadrant
9500
Up from 16500 and 6300.
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Improvement is a subjective in this context. In what way? Faster? More features? Better battery life? Better sound quality? Better color? Smoother?
Benchmark means nothing. It is possible to apply the Samsung's dalvik cheat patch to your rom which will increase your benchmark score but yield no real world performance. With some settings you might get great benchmark, but the phone might get hot with poor battery life. Moreover, most benchmark programs do not tell the real story about performance. Antutu and Geekbench doesn't even work correctly with 4.4 and ART. iOS7 might get good scores sunspider javascript, but there are times when Android web performance outright beat it.
This thread falls in the category of "What is the best kernel/rom?" which is against XDA rules so I can;t help you. Research each kernel and read about its features and users feedback and find what is right for you. A lot of time stock kernel will give the best stability and battery life.
I use kernels mainly for features. There are other bigger factors about the operating system that determine battery life and performance.

What I wanted was faster and this certainly is faster. So I'm happy. Thanks for all your help.
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Rlumby said:
What I wanted was faster and this certainly is faster. So I'm happy. Thanks for all your help.
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Use latest PSX rom, put phone in freezer for 1hour, set CPU to 1800MHZ performance, GPU to 533MHZ performance if possible, raise overall cpu voltage, stop all background app, run benchmark.

Rlumby said:
Right after a bit of trial and error I reckon I have cracked it.
PSX v1
Moto x
Trinity kernel
Results from antutu
22400
Results from Quadrant
9500
Up from 16500 and 6300.
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there you go

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[Q] OC Questions (PROs/CONs)

Recently got Droid X Overclock and have been playing with it. I've seen the CPU Benchmark and Quadrant threads, got some decent scores but seems to be most stabile @ 1300 Undervolting.
What exactly are the benefits, what's the difference between the voltages? Currently undervolting because my impression is it'll give me longer battery life, but read some threads saying it is somewhat a myth? Can anyone that truly understands this comment?
Im going to make this as simple as possible. I can only tell that it makes a difference in benchmarking.
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ksizzle9 said:
Im going to make this as simple as possible. I can only tell that it makes a difference in benchmarking.
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Same here... lol
Neither of you can tell a difference with battery life?
I've been wanting to overclock/undervolt, but I was curious as well. Do I have to overclock each time I flash or upgrade a ROM? I'm currently on Liberty 1.0, but once they come out with an update would I need to overclock once again?
Thanks in advance.
I am on Apex 1.3 and have noticed increased battery life but not sure if its due to the ROM or undervolting.. will most likely check out Fission or Liberty tomorrow.
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I OC/UV to 1.3 ULV settings in liberty lastnight. My phone has been on for 10 hours, display on with heavy use for about 45 mins, still at 90%. So far, that is a bit better then any other OC setting I used, and it's very stable. I noticed with other settings, I had weird reboots, so I think a lot of it depends on what works for your phone the best. I would test them out and see the results.

Low quadrant...

Hmm, I've seen lots of people say that their scores are 3000-3500 but I've run it twice and have only ever got to 2700 ish.
It stalls at database writes for a bit
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Using quadrant standard or advanced? Advanced gets higher from looking at results
Standard.
Nvm. Exited running apps and cleared memory and got 3100+.
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Low quadrant score ain't a thing...it depends on optimization, running quadrant with live wallpapers and speed test running with a movie downloading at 3g will definitely affect your score
Also it depends on processor....if it is undervolted to save battery then the score will be obviously less
And lastly don't forget to check whether quadrant is optimized for sgs 2 or not as of database read and write it might be due to ext4 partition.
Hope it helps...
Don't judge your device on benchmarks but rather on how it works and how the general speed is.
Quad scores can be fixed and to be honest as long as you are happy with the performance.....then ignore the score.
But if you like numbers then...3564 on standard launcher, then 3874 using the laucher from the SE Arc.
Steve

[Q] Which is the best kernel?

What is the best kernel overall?
The best kernel for battery improvement?
Best kernel for performance?
and the best kernel for gaming?
.....and GO!
Stock.
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Based on my experience. For overall excellent gaming performance with good enough battery performance, I suggest M-Kernel a25 or a27. And to over clock your device after installing the kernel, use Trickster Mod from play store.
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I'd like to recommend u to see the following thread.
[GUIDE] *NEW* 4.2.1 RESULTS! N7 'Best' Kernel? (Performance & Battery Tests)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=31620793
theres no best kernel, they are all good. theres only whats best for your and your devices needs. evrybody is going to say that the best kernel is the one that they use, no one is going to say that they use the worst.
simms22 said:
theres no best kernel, they are all good. theres only whats best for your and your devices needs. evrybody is going to say that the best kernel is the one that they use, no one is going to say that they use the worst.
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Well I base it on most popular. If its popular it means its good and works most of the time. Maybe I should've used better wording?
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jesus359 said:
Well I base it on most popular. If its popular it means its good and works most of the time. Maybe I should've used better wording?
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popular doesnt mean good. try out a few, find what your device likes. every device is different and reacts differently with each kernel.
k1silver said:
I'd like to recommend u to see the following thread.
[GUIDE] *NEW* 4.2.1 RESULTS! N7 'Best' Kernel? (Performance & Battery Tests)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=31620793
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Yes you can read there, OP just updated the score. If you want to try, try trinity for best performance, m kernel for best overall. I'm using Mkernel now, really good kernel. No problem so far.
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I get about 10-11ish hours "screen on" with light use on franco kernel #38
Motley kernel
i tried
Motley kernel,
Franco kernel
Trinity Kernel
Trinity is the fastest if you tweak it good..
but on the downside the most glitch..
but Morfic just released two updates in two days...
so theyre fixing it.
So im back with Trinity Kernel.
Its good..
and the only Kernel i find that you can change GPU speed, ofcourse Using
the glitchy Trinity Toolbox
I love Franco.Kernel R31. Battery life is great and performance is good as well. R38 is the newest and great, but I feel performance is a bit lacking on 38.
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Jomari29 said:
i tried
Motley kernel,
Franco kernel
Trinity Kernel
Trinity is the fastest if you tweak it good..
but on the downside the most glitch..
but Morfic just released two updates in two days...
so theyre fixing it.
So im back with Trinity Kernel.
Its good..
and the only Kernel i find that you can change GPU speed, ofcourse Using
the glitchy Trinity Toolbox
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Did he fix unplug usb otg reboot issue yet?
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Closed, try them and see

[Q] Less perf after overclock

Hello,
I overclocked my cpu to 1944mhz and gpu to 487mhz using fauxclock (i'm rooted with faux kernel)...
But when i benchmark i have lesser scores (1600 on geekbench and 13000 on antutu)...
Can someone explain me why
Thanks
Thermal throttling.
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Eric-1987 said:
Thermal throttling.
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Hi,
Probably, yes. Plus Faux kernel is not the kernel to run benchs. Faux focused on "real" performance on daily use (UI, games) and his kernel is not a kernel for benchs. This is not a critic and I didn't say the other kernels are not optimized for daily use
faux123 said:
Yes, I play games to test my kernels, it's the BEST benchmark of anything, way better than any synthetic benchmarks
I also play NSF, DeadTrigger, Temple Run, AngryBirds and MetalSlug series to check all different aspect of gaming performance. My kernel may not score the highest in synthetic benchmarks, but it does well in real Games and Apps :victory:
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my kernel is very smooth for normal apps and games but does poorly with these artificial apps like benchmarks and stress tests
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But you can try another governor or tweaks some governor settings.
Thanks for the answer i noticed higher fps on real racing 3
That mean the kernel isn't good for bench that's it !
Btw is it possible to disable thermal throttling
Poustic said:
Thanks for the answer i noticed higher fps on real racing 3
That mean the kernel isn't good for bench that's it !
Btw is it possible to disable thermal throttling
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No. Don't even think about it. Another possibility is that your phone can't handle the 1.9 overclock, hence lagging.
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Post your Benchmark

The Note 4 is an impressive device...
A Beast in my opinion...
Lets have the benchmark speak for themselves...
Feel free to share tips or tricks to better your benchmark...
Completely stock not rooted, just got it for Christmas
With the NK2 update
Rooted and running crazy Xposes modules...
Running smooth cat v1 stock kernal.
How the hell is someone running flat stock scoring 6000 more than me with custom rom and kernel? There is no way stock is faster than this xnote. This is way quicker. Stock lags like hell.
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mitchellvii said:
How the hell is someone running flat stock scoring 6000 more than me with custom rom and kernel? There is no way stock is faster than this xnote. This is way quicker. Stock lags like hell.
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Well, im not bashing anyones work but when i flashed ported Echoe i was running at about 43000. Maybe because the codes are meant for another phone it could affect the performance.
XPinochitoX said:
Well, im not bashing anyones work but when i flashed ported Echoe i was running at about 43000. Maybe because the codes are meant for another phone it could affect the performance.
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Well benchmarks are funny things. A higher benchmark doesn't always mean better real world performance. It could be that customizations in a rom lower your benchmark score but not your performance. NK2 stock is pretty sluggish compared to this xnote rom.
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Stock NK2 Rooted, Xposed
Stock Rom. Rooted. Removed Bloatware
Running tx_dbs_tx's x 1.0.2 deodexed.
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Running tx_dbs_tx's x 1.0.2 deodexed.
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Haha! Don't make me break out the mad tweaks and make this thing bellow smoke from the top of the phone! Real world performance is what matters. I don't so much read into the benchmark tests because I've seen phones with lower scores perform outstanding against a device with a much higher benchmark score. It all depends on how the device uses it's resources and how well the os is optimized. The kernel plays a big part also. The scores tend to fluctuate and the differences you see in the app benchmark tests don't always translate into real world performance differences. Most of these variances you will never notice. With this said, this phone is awesome... right out of the box!
Running xnote rom
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Goodbye lg g3. Hello note 4. Loving this thing.
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Running custom init.d and build.prop tweaks along with a modified egl tweak (all made by me) running on Hybrid-X r1.07.
benchmark
Running ael 7.2 for sprint note 4

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