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So much for Hero flash support.

What keeps this Flash 9 game from running?
http://adamatomic.com/canabalt/

7 and 9 are different builds.
I believe that most developers have compiled the Adobe Flash Player 7 into their ROM ports. Google and Adobe have been working together in creating the Flash Player 10 Mobile - which is set to be released for BETA testing sometime in Q4 of this year. I would assume between Oct. & Nov. (simply because there are numerous major releases of phones and mobile technology in that specific time frame)
Look into that. I'm not too familiar with various HERO ports. I've only flashed three HERO ROM ports. (32B)
Good luck.

Interesting. I was under the impession that Hero came with that Flast 10 Mobile right out of the box, one of the big features. However, I do a good amount of browsing on it and I see far more flash content that doesnt work than does. So you may be correct.
I'll dig around and see what I come up with. That particular game requires Flash 9 I believe.
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Looks like it's Flash 10 on the Hero roms, many articles on engadget about it:
http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/30/new-htc-hero-rom-leaked-flash-10-already-chugging-along-on-a-fe/
but the real treat here is the first implementation of Flash 10 on Android,
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http://www.adobe.com/aboutadobe/pre...09AdobeandHTCBringFlashPlatformtoAndroid.html
Adobe Flash is an important core technology for people interacting and experiencing the Web, it is only natural to be offering it on the new HTC Hero first,” said John Wang, chief marketing officer, HTC Corporation. “We look forward to continuing our close collaboration with Adobe and to bringing Flash Player 10 support to our phones in the future.”
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That's hTC, huh?
So much for innovation being their priority or standard to go by, huh?
But yes, as you stated previously - the HTC HERO was said to be packaged stock with the Flash Player 10...however, that is certainly not the case.
Keep me posted, I'm interested in seeing what you manage to dig up. That's something I actually wondered the first time I began flashing HERO ports. I believe that developers settle for an "optimized" build of the Flash Player from Adobe so it can be utilized, but not necessarily to it's full potential. Who knows?
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Curious? That doesn't make any sense considering Flash Player 9 should be subsidized within the obviously updated version, not to mention have some form of basic backwards compatibility. But again, it could be that various HERO ports support that build of the Flash Player (i.e. - 10, not 7, 9, etc.) while others might have been stocked with a lesser version of the build to USE LESS MEMORY or resources while loading. Good find.

I found a site that displays your flash information. On my pc it says Win 10,0,22,87. On my MyHero rom it says AFL 9,1,122,0.
According to that I should at least be able to get some 9.0 action.

Good post.
pcm2a said:
I found a site that displays your flash information. On my pc it says Win 10,0,22,87. On my MyHero rom it says AFL 9,1,122,0.
According to that I should at least be able to get some 9.0 action.
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Good looking out man. Always appreciated.
This used to be a hot topic at one point in time. It has lost its luster.
Thanks though.

Tired of Slow Laggy Flash Support?

Check this out..
Now if only one of our Devs can get their hands on a beta.
http://www.downloadsquad.com/2009/10/05/flash-player-10-1-to-support-smartphones-nvidia-powered-netbook/
Video of palm pre running flash 10
Adobe has announced that Flash 10.1 will support GPU acceleration for NVIDIA graphics, which means that if you've got a computer with NVIDIA GeForce, ION, or Tegra graphics in it, you should be able to watch high definition Flash video in fullscreen mode even if you have a slow processor like an Intel Atom or ARM-based chip.
What's more, Adobe is going to bring Flash 10.1 to Smartphones, ending the separate but unequal era of Flash Lite. Flash 10.1 will be available for Blackberry, Windows Mobile, Google Android, and Symbian phones. The iPhone's not on that list because Adobe still hasn't worked out an arrangement with Apple to add support for Flash 10.1 to the iPhone's Safari web browser, but that could still happen.
Flash 10.1 is due to hit the streets in the first half of 2010. But there should be beta versions available before the end of 2009.

Thread reopened as reason for closure is unclear.

It was probably auto-closed for having the word "Flash" in it or something.
Anyway, I really do hope this is true. It'll likely make competition between mobile and desktop browsers, which is a good thing, since before the iPhone, Opera Mobile, Iris Browser, and finally the Android browser, the mobile web was one of those areas that you would have to expect your site sliced-and-diced to fit the screen.
P.S.: wouldn't this go in the Dream general forum? It's not specifically related to dev'ing, other than the fact that ROM devs would likely cook Flash into their ROMs once the beta leaks or something.

I'm not sure where it is but about 2 months ago they demoed the alpha of the same flash on the g1 with gpu acceleration as well. seemed to run nicely. basically it comes out at the "end of this year" according to the adobe dev emails I get. Unless of course we can get a leak sooner. can't wait

TylTru said:
It was probably auto-closed for having the word "Flash" in it or something.
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We don't auto close anything, however mods have the option to close multiple threads at once, someone might have ticked the wrong box, really we're humans
Greetz,
Flar
p.s. I think it would be better suited in dream general indeed and will move it.

I thought Android's browser was webkit based?
If it is, then there is no logical reason that iPhone-Safari can't already have it, since that is also webkit. My guess is just Apple being stupid and rejecting it as usual.
All the more reason to buy an Android.

I think Apple wont allow it because full flash can take a big bite out of the apple app store/itunes
(just my opinion)

[Q] No more FLASH support on jelly bean?

I saw that the nexus 7 comes with Chrome as default browser. Does it mean no more flash support?
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Fairly sure Chrome supports, if not will support, flash?
If not then the new build of Firefox which is out supports flash :highfive:

Chrome does not, and will not, support Flash.
I believe other browsers that support Flash should be fine though (for now).

As long as Adobe supports Jelly Bean, Flash should still work normally in other browsers.

I dint think chrome will be supporting it. just use opera mobile then
Opera mobile the best anyways

But I remember adobe once saying that ICS will be the last android version to support adobe flash.. Not sure though..

This got me curious, so I spent some time looking around the Nexus 7 webpage. It says that Flash IS supported, just not in Chrome. The note says that you can download Browser from Google Play. Presumably, other browsers with plugin support (Firefox 14) should be compatible as well.

nishant_713 said:
But I remember adobe once saying that ICS will be the last android version to support adobe flash.. Not sure though..
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It is. Though Jelly Bean isn't that big a jump OS wise, so it shouldn't have broken flash compatibility.

Chrome for android does not support flash and according to Adobe, it won't. Apparently you'll be able to download the usual default browser on the play store if you require flash, or an assortment of 3rd party browsers that support flash.

I'm not sure if anyone notice...
If you look at the Flash in Play Store, Adobe states that "Flash Player will not be supported in any Android version beyond 4.0.X"
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not being supported doesn't necessarily mean it wont work

Thank god. After all these years, Flash is dead.

Adobe has dropped flash support themselves I believe, which is understandable as flash is indeed on its way out now with many web apps and websites in general turning to HTML5 as more universal coding method. However, whilst Chrome does not support flash, simply installing another browser onto the Nexus should allow you flash support (Skyfire browser I think for one).

In my opinion, the stock browser in ICS, especially with quick controls enabled, is the best browser I've ever used. I'm happy to hear it will be available for download, however am indeed worried about getting flash installed on Jellybean. Adobe is not releasing Flash updates past security & fixes. one big thing I love about ICS is the ability to load full net pages, which use flash, at my choosing and would hate to loose this functionality if flash is not compatible with Jellybean.

qoncept said:
Thank god. After all these years, Flash is dead.
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You are my first boo post....... Booooooooo! There felt good

TheSeanR said:
not being supported doesn't necessarily mean it wont work
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This. Adobe won't fix it, but if it worked on ics it should still work on jelly bean. The next version is probably screwed though.

As stated before Adobe has stated before after ICS no more flash support.
Chrome for android never supported flash to begin with.
Frankly I think flash is a poor user experience on a tablet anyway.

It's unfortunately true: Chrome on Jelly Bean does not and will not support Flash. Chrome looks amazing otherwise. The question is: Will XDA devs be able to bake flash back in? Using a non-flash supporting browser is simply out of the question for me.
Don't get me started on how the rational of dropping flash support no longer applies. Tablets are now quad-core beasts that are supposed to replace laptops and provide the most complete browsing experience. I think Google -like Apple- just wants people to consume its media instead.

Why not just use a market browser that supports flash like Dolphin?

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Why not just use a market browser that supports flash like Dolphin?
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Sure, there's always 'that' solution, but it also means you miss out on Chrome. Firefo is bloody amazing but you need to re-load every page in Desktop mode, there's now way to make the client desktop from the start.
I want to use Chrome (mostly bec of the sync options with the desktop verison), but I also want to have flash... That's the thing.

Every one please read this if you have android in phones or tablets

Flash is waving a tearful farewell to Android, with Adobe confirming that it won't be supporting Flash Player on Android 4.1 Jelly Bean, and furthermore will be blocking people from installing Flash Player from mid-August.
On its blog, the company behind Photoshop confirms that Jelly Bean kit won't get Flash support, matter-of-factly writing, "We have not continued developing and testing Flash player for this new version of Android and its available browser options."
From 15 August, Adobe is going to limit access to Flash Player updates to devices that already have the Player installed. That means that if you don't have the app installed by then, you won't be able to get it.
Moreover, Adobe warns that when devices get updated from Android 4.0 Ice Cream Sandwich to 4.1 Jelly Bean, the player "may exhibit unpredictable behaviour, as it is not certified for use with Android 4.1". Adobe recommends uninstalling Flash before upgrading your phone or tablet to Jelly Bean.
If you own a Samsung Galaxy Nexus, Motorola Xoom or Google Nexus S you should take note, as these are gadgets that Google has confirmed to receive Android 4.1 Jelly Bean in mid-July.
Flash comes pre-installed on many current smart phones, but it looks like this won't continue, as Flash -- once one of Android's biggest selling points -- continues its quiet exit from Google's operating system.
Apple denied Flash access to its own iOS platform from day one, something that forced many websites to switch to HTML5 to ensure anyone browsing on an iPhone or iPad could still watch video. It looks like this is one battle Apple has won.

Flash was nice to have when introduced to Froyo back in 2010. In the last 2 years, the internet has evolved away from Flash. HTML 5 is more and more prevalent, and rightly so. Flash, while acceptable on a newer smart phone, still is far laggier than other video solutions. And the fact remains that Flash has a LOT of security flaws. They patch 1 and 2 more are discovered.
By the time Jelly Bean hits our devices, Flash just won't be needed. It's time to look forward.

How can I tell if pornhub runs flash or html5?
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Chrome Beta does not support Flash. Use that and see if videos work.

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How can I tell if pornhub runs flash or html5?
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Can't tell if serious or fapping.
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Can't tell if serious or fapping.
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i lol'd

Doesn't the iPad not have flash and don't they play videos fine?

No, unless the website in question uses HTML 5. That's why iPeople have to download hundreds of stupid little apps for websites. Instead of the full web experience, it has to be translated into a non-flash app... for EACH site.

O.P. could at least credit
http://crave.cnet.co.uk/software/fl...jelly-bean-will-be-pulled-from-play-50008441/
from where his entire post comes.

pwn3d

Careful what you wish for re:ICS

I, as with many on this forum, have been anxiously awaiting the release of ICS for my Atrix4G.
Well, I now have a completely different attitude about the update. I will NOT be installing it onto my phone. Why?
My wife owns an Atrix2...a few days ago we received the official OTA update for ICS. It installed beautifully. I was very excited to get to play around with it and looked forward to trying out all the new features, which, are nice.
BUT...It became obvious very quickly that Adobe Flash was not supported with this update. I could not believe it, in fact I REFUSED to believe it so I spent most of the night trying to work around that fact. I found some work arounds, but nothing that really worked.
I tried a couple APK files for Flash 11, and although it did technically install it, the results were mixed. Some flash objects worked fine, but most did not. It seems flash video (streaming tv etc...) were the worst, most of which lock the browsers up. (tried stock, dolphin, opera, firefox)
I know this is not a big deal to many of you, but for my wife and I, we use our phone browsers quite a bit, and embedded flash content is a big part of that experience. To not have it is a major fail for us. I would never had installed the OTA had I realized the degree to which it would impact the delivery of that particular content.
After spending most of my evening reading up on this topic ( I really wish I would have read about these issues before hand) I am very aware of the argument Adobe is making. It is up to the content providers to stop using flash and move to a better delivery mechanism. I get that. But it comes at the cost of usability for the user.
Unfortunately for me, by accepting this update, my device has been "downgraded", in my wife and I's opinion. And to us, that is all that matters. As non-technical consumers we don't care or need to know about "legacy compatibility" or "resource intensity". What we care about are the blank boxes on the majority of the websites we visit where there should be content and now there is either an error message, or a completely locked browser. That is what is important to us.
You may not feel the same, everyone has different opinions and needs for their phones. Our was the ability to reliably surf the web and experience all the features that my desktop can. Until this update, those needs were met perfectly. That is no longer the case, and it is a shame, no matter who is a fault.
So, in summary, after experiencing ICS on the Atrix 2, I will NOT be installing it on my Atrix4G. At least not until either Adobe, the content providers, Moto or Google get back on the same page, because what it happening now just plain sucks. The rest of the update is nice, but to my Wife and I, flash content honestly is a big deal.
Hope this helps someone, as I am sure it would have made me think twice had I read his before updating mine.
Flame away.

Pretty sure adobe have stopped supporting flash now so ICS and JB don't have it
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ChrisSkeeles said:
I, as with many on this forum, have been anxiously awaiting the release of ICS for my Atrix4G.
Well, I now have a completely different attitude about the update. I will NOT be installing it onto my phone. Why?
My wife owns an Atrix2...a few days ago we received the official OTA update for ICS. It installed beautifully. I was very excited to get to play around with it and looked forward to trying out all the new features, which, are nice.
BUT...It became obvious very quickly that Adobe Flash was not supported with this update. I could not believe it, in fact I REFUSED to believe it so I spent most of the night trying to work around that fact. I found some work arounds, but nothing that really worked.
I tried a couple APK files for Flash 11, and although it did technically install it, the results were mixed. Some flash objects worked fine, but most did not. It seems flash video (streaming tv etc...) were the worst, most of which lock the browsers up. (tried stock, dolphin, opera, firefox)
I know this is not a big deal to many of you, but for my wife and I, we use our phone browsers quite a bit, and embedded flash content is a big part of that experience. To not have it is a major fail for us. I would never had installed the OTA had I realized the degree to which it would impact the delivery of that particular content.
After spending most of my evening reading up on this topic ( I really wish I would have read about these issues before hand) I am very aware of the argument Adobe is making. It is up to the content providers to stop using flash and move to a better delivery mechanism. I get that. But it comes at the cost of usability for the user.
Unfortunately for me, by accepting this update, my device has been "downgraded", in my wife and I's opinion. And to us, that is all that matters. As non-technical consumers we don't care or need to know about "legacy compatibility" or "resource intensity". What we care about are the blank boxes on the majority of the websites we visit where there should be content and now there is either an error message, or a completely locked browser. That is what is important to us.
You may not feel the same, everyone has different opinions and needs for their phones. Our was the ability to reliably surf the web and experience all the features that my desktop can. Until this update, those needs were met perfectly. That is no longer the case, and it is a shame, no matter who is a fault.
So, in summary, after experiencing ICS on the Atrix 2, I will NOT be installing it on my Atrix4G. At least not until either Adobe, the content providers, Moto or Google get back on the same page, because what it happening now just plain sucks. The rest of the update is nice, but to my Wife and I, flash content honestly is a big deal.
Hope this helps someone, as I am sure it would have made me think twice had I read his before updating mine.
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i have the latest adobe flash sideloaded on my installation of CM10, and it works like it should for me. I have yet to try it on the ICS leak, but all i did was install the .apk i found from Adobe's website, and lo and behold, it works

Well it took you only a year to figure out that Adobe dropped support for flash in mobile... This is one of the most delayed rants ever. In any case, No need to worry if you're using official updates only, since Motorola cancelled the ICS OTA for the Atrix 4G..

Wait, you'll ditch the entire ICS/JB because of something as crappy as Adobe Flash? Dunno, makes no sense to me. Flash is trash and the fact you guys visit so many flash sites is just plain unfortunate.
Also, Adobe has dropped support for Flash on Android long time ago. Has nothing to do with ICS or JB or Motorola or anything.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=31311769&postcount=368
So I don't really see your point...

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That makes no sense whatsoever..
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Again, if Flash content is not part of your everyday mobile web experience, then I am sure it would not make sense to you.
But it is to us. I don't care if flash sucks or not. The fact that it is still a major delivery system on most websites that I visit makes dropping ICS sound sensible to me.
The majority of news stations (that I visit anyway) that have streaming content still use flash. That is not in my control. What was in my control was the OTA update that I now regret installing.

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The fact that it is still a major delivery system on most websites that I visit makes dropping ICS sound sensible to me.
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It would be if flash support had anything to do with ICS. Like I said above (sorry, edited my post), flash is no longer available on Google Play, whoever got it has it, others must make do with other methods. So if you were still on GB and didn't have flash installed, you'd be just as screwed now.

Well, i know for sure that iOS and WP doesn't support flash, so not sure what are you going to do. Android just went with everyone else about Flash. In reality, Flash is a resource hog. Im kind of happy that they removed Flash, even though it was a selling point for Android.

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It would be if flash support had anything to do with ICS. Like I said above (sorry, edited my post), flash is no longer available on Google Play, whoever got it has it, others must make do with other methods. So if you were still on GB and didn't have flash installed, you'd be just as screwed now.
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If you do not have flash installed and you are still on GB, you can still install it via APK (there are plenty of those around) and it will work just as good as if you installed it before Aug 15th (the Google Play cutoff).
Unfortunately this is not the case if you are on ICS, regardless if you had previously installed it on GB, it just does not work well on ICS at all.
What it boils down to is until the web content providers migrate away from Flash and move to a delivery system that is cross compatible between Android, iOS, PC Web, the mobile web user is going to have a large void in accessible content. Especially if you visit mainstream sites much like me and my wife.
Remember, not everyone uses their device for the same reasons, nor do they visit the same sites. What may seem trivial to one may not be to another.
With respect to Atrix4G being cancelled. I am sorry that I missed that announcement. The last I read they changed it from 3rd QTR to "To be determined" or something like that, which was the same timeline they gave the Atrix2, and it now has it.

Wasn't adobe flash still supported in ICS?

What do you use flash for? Homestar Runner?
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Where's my Shockwave support ???

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Wasn't adobe flash still supported in ICS?
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The statements that I read from Adobe were that it would work for ICS 4.0.x. I have 4.0.4 and it does not work, for what it is worth.

ChrisSkeeles said:
The statements that I read from Adobe were that it would work for ICS 4.0.x. I have 4.0.4 and it does not work, for what it is worth.
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Cool. I guess we have modifiable, open-sourced iPhones now.
Thing is, most sites that want attention, especially from mobile users, create apps or mobile-friendly sites. Even my University caught on to that. Mobile tech is where the money's at and my opinion is that Adobe will have to rely on their Creative Suite software for income in the very near future.

Try looking for Adobe 10.3 or older. The APKs are floating all over the xda forums. Not sure it'll help but it's been known to work best for situations like when CM7 didn't have good flash support unless using 10.3 or older.

Flash is heavily used by most of the on-demand/catchup services in the UK, only the BBC have provided an alternative.
I am still somewhat pissed it is no longer supported, resource hog or not I would rather have something that works than sitting there without something because of battery life etc. Gps, high resolution screens, 3g and games all use resources and battery, if we took apple's approach to flash, we would still have nokia 3310s
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Try looking for Adobe 10.3 or older. The APKs are floating all over the xda forums. Not sure it'll help but it's been known to work best for situations like when CM7 didn't have good flash support unless using 10.3 or older.
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Thank you for that suggestion, I will do just that.

I have mixed feelings about Flash. I love it for animations, yet hate it for everything else. Except games, I'm fine with Flash games.

Blame Adobe. They are a crap company who makes overpriced software and regularly takes a dump on any platform that is not Windows or Mac.

What he really wants guys is to all of you look at his point of view what you all are not really doing.
Like 2 or 3 said before in old post of this thread resource hog or not (Battery eater) some people like flash and use it as their everyday, sometimes I used Adoble Flash in my Atrix many times and it worked really well, shame I don't have my Atrix anymore.