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If someone can/has figured this out I'll buy you a beer.
you can use a wiimote..
Actually, you can't:
forum%xda-developers%com/showpost.php?p=7388551&postcount=7 (account not allowed to post links yet)
It is unclear to me whether this is because the Captivate lacks HID profile support, or because as a BT 3.0 device there is some kind of incompatability (I have heard both).
dirtydaub said:
If someone can/has figured this out I'll buy you a beer.
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Sorry, never gonna happen. PS3 controller maybe but the 360 controller isn't BT, it uses a proprietary wireless standard.
Why Xbox or Playstation crap is way overpriced!
If you want to use your phone as an emulator that bad you might as well just pay the $10 for a cheapo BT controller. Don't you want something a lot smaller than a bigun PS3 or x360 controller, I'd think something micro would be better suited for travel.
Plus if you're going to be inside to use this (unless your TV is outside), why not just use a PC and out it at 1080 for the real deal? Or is it more for nostalgia
Cool factor only. But it would be neat if I could use the video out to the TV at the shore house and play a game on that. No PC at my shore house:-(
REAVER117 said:
Sorry, never gonna happen. PS3 controller maybe but the 360 controller isn't BT, it uses a proprietary wireless standard.
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But they also have wired versions that use USB. I don't have a clue about this at all, so I don't know if that's even remotely possible, just throwing one more idea out there. Not as pretty of a solution but if the USB could be sized down to micro and plugged in... Probably not, like I said, just throwing it out there. Would definitely be cool though.
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But they also have wired versions that use USB. I don't have a clue about this at all, so I don't know if that's even remotely possible, just throwing one more idea out there. Not as pretty of a solution but if the USB could be sized down to micro and plugged in... Probably not, like I said, just throwing it out there. Would definitely be cool though.
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Not really possible because the USB doesn't have host support. If someone could write it into the kernel it would be awesome but then there would be many driver issues to arise.
I would just opt for a mini BT gamepad, I am thinking of getting one and loading some old SNES games on my phone.
Wait... is there an actual mini BT game controller that works? I would simply buy one now. Can you point us?
The zeemote looks complicated, you would think a wireless bluetooth snes style controller without axis controls would be simple enough, although I know everyone wants the ps3 for its controls. But this would be an awesome start.
Hopefully with more buttons than the wiimote so snes games play decent.
I would just use the computer you are posting from for this kinda thing.
http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.13760
Some have modded these with a SNES controller. If I had any soldering skills I would try it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OP8JgqmVES8
decepticon said:
Not really possible because the USB doesn't have host support. If someone could write it into the kernel it would be awesome but then there would be many driver issues to arise.
I would just opt for a mini BT gamepad, I am thinking of getting one and loading some old SNES games on my phone.
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Yeah, I kinda wondered about that, but like I said, I'm new to Android so I'm still learning what it can and can't do.
Still, a controller, especially wireless would be awesome to have. I have reason to believe from talking to someone involved that the Wiimote may not be totally out of the equation. Even if not on stock ROMs, custom ROMs may be able to make it work. I guess like everything else we'll just have to wait and see.
wiimote wont work with samsung phones. The developer of wiimote controller emailed me and said its because of the way samsungs added junk deals with bluetooth. Apparently they modify how bluetooth is dealt with from the stock android.
Hmmm... Interesting ideas.... I never even thought about a Bluetooth controller, that could possibly be the answer right there. Has anyone ever messed around with one? Would it be easy to set up with the captivate? Basically I just wanna be able to go over to my friends place and be like, "yo dudes, check THIS OUT!" And play old school games from my phone. More of a novelty than anything really.
illl try to set one up tomorrow and let you guys know if a reg bluetooth one will work with our 3.0. i remember hearing that it wont but i'll verify.
My understanding is that the galaxy S phones dont use the standard "BlueZ" stack. which is why it wont work.
Can anyone confirm if that bluetooth controller linked above from DealExtreme would work? So theoretically, a controller made for bluetooth 3.0 devices would work?
dappy15 said:
Can anyone confirm if that bluetooth controller linked above from DealExtreme would work? So theoretically, a controller made for bluetooth 3.0 devices would work?
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It def. works with Android, but a paid drivers pack from the market is required. Now whether it works with the Galaxy S due to the different Bluetooth stack is the unknown part.
I am not sure how deeply the drivers interact with the bluetooth stack, and if they only work with the stock Android stack. I am planning on buying both the controller above and a SNES controller to mod for use with my PC, and phone if it works.
I am having trouble finding a SNES controller locally but I am told that I can get one on Monday from a buddy at my work.
Just checking to see if anybody has made progress on finding a controller for the captivate/galaxy s?
This is probably one of my most wanted features... get that wiimote working somehow.
So, these last few days I've been trying to achieve the functionality of the Sixaxis Controller touch emulation when connected by bluetooth, while using a Mini USB - Micro USB cable instead of bluetooth. I'm doing this because I want to control my computer via Splashtop Gamepad THD with the Dualshock 3 controller, worth mentioning is that it's an original version, not a knockoff. Bluetooth interferes with the WiFi to a level I consider unacceptable, lowering performance by 50-75%.
I've also tried it with USB/BT Joystick Center 8, bluetooth works fine, but wired doesn't even though the developer claims it's supported. The app finds the controller, but doesn't react to any buttons.
Do anyone of you know of a way to solve this?
I'm pretty much **** out of luck unless I get this working or find a USB WiFi stick and android drivers for the 5Ghz band, which I'm not having much luck with. So any help leading to one of these goals would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks in advance!
Okay, the first question is aimed at Mad Catz Rich as from what I gathered he is a Mad Catz rep.
Can we expect an OS update to the MOJO? An update to at least 4.3 is important because of FSTrim which seriously affect performance in the long run.
The second question is about the bluetooth and aimed at anybody who can answer. Supposedly the MOJO supports bluetooth but I've also seen mention of a dongle. Do you actually need the dongle to use the controller or is it only for when connecting it to a PC (if it's a requirement it eats up an entire USB right?) So does bluetooth on the device work without the dongle? Can you easily connect devices such as a mouse and a keyboard?
I'm interested in the MOJO but gaming is only third on my list. I want it more as a low power (HT)PC running android so I want to know if my logitech K810 (great for only using one keyboard when switching between the phone, tablet, and PC) would work on it and an actual mouse would be nice since it might take a while to get accustomed to using the mouse mode on the C.T.R.L. (plus I saw some comment somewhere where the person was concerned with the durability of the switch as it would get constant use and a mouse would avoid the need for constant switching).
I'm not sure whether to wait or not as game compatibility is only semi important for me for me (plus I have several humble bundle android games which might avoid the need for play store compatibility). But video playback is important as is the keyboard and mouse. If those work then despite the limited game selection it might be worth it for me.
We have connected a BT keyboard and mouse with no problem to ours. Logitech keyboard, Microsoft mouse & both work well. Neither use a dongle.
I do have the controller's dongle taking up a USB port, but not sure if it actually needs it...I just sort of plugged it in because it was there and I'm a fan of sticking things into other things.
ExtremeRyno said:
We have connected a BT keyboard and mouse with no problem to ours. Logitech keyboard, Microsoft mouse & both work well. Neither use a dongle.
I do have the controller's dongle taking up a USB port, but not sure if it actually needs it...I just sort of plugged it in because it was there and I'm a fan of sticking things into other things.
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Thanks! And yeah, many people are of that practice...
Now let's just see if Mad Catz Rich can give us some info on the OS front.
solsearch said:
Thanks! And yeah, many people are of that practice...
Now let's just see if Mad Catz Rich can give us some info on the OS front.
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Controller has built in blue tooth. Just flip the switch the the far left(blue tooth) and hold start button for 5 seconds. Controller will light up and seek nearby Bluetooth devices and sync.
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....The second question is about the bluetooth and aimed at anybody who can answer. Supposedly the MOJO supports bluetooth but I've also seen mention of a dongle. Do you actually need the dongle to use the controller or is it only for when connecting it to a PC (if it's a requirement it eats up an entire USB right?) So does bluetooth on the device work without the dongle? Can you easily connect devices such as a mouse and a keyboard?
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I use this mini BT kyboard/mouse:
shinatro Mini Bluetooth Keyboard
Works fine, a bit treaky to get used to but very functional.
I haven't tried removing the BT smart dongle, I would say it does need the dongle for the controller only because of android 4.2.2 doesn't support it.
On the new egg TV vid, there's confirmation of Android 4.4 kitkat coming, so I guess that's coming, and when it does the dongle wont be needed on the mojo, as from 4.3 it does support BT smart natively.
Well that's my understanding.
Hi,
The CTRLR included with MOJO has Bluetooth Smart built in, allowing it to take advantage of lower latency and lower power consumption from the Low Energy profile of Bluetooth 4.0. Unfortunately, the Android OS won't be able to take advantage of this until KitKat is made more widely available. So, in the meantime, the USB dongle is included to make up for this connection. This will be similar for other Bluetooth Smart devices that don't have the OS/hardware matching up yet. The Bluetooth 4.0 built-in, however, is backwards-compatible with all Bluetooth Classic connections.
Regarding USB ports, using a USB hub should be just fine for connecting additional USB devices. Ie, wired keyboard, wired mouse, usb dongle wireless keyboard or mouse, xbox 360 controller, external hard drives, thumbdrives, etc.
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The CTRLR included with MOJO has Bluetooth Smart built in, allowing it to take advantage of lower latency and lower power consumption from the Low Energy profile of Bluetooth 4.0. Unfortunately, the Android OS won't be able to take advantage of this until KitKat is made more widely available. So, in the meantime, the USB dongle is included to make up for this connection. This will be similar for other Bluetooth Smart devices that don't have the OS/hardware matching up yet. The Bluetooth 4.0 built-in, however, is backwards-compatible with all Bluetooth Classic connections.
Regarding USB ports, using a USB hub should be just fine for connecting additional USB devices. Ie, wired keyboard, wired mouse, usb dongle wireless keyboard or mouse, xbox 360 controller, external hard drives, thumbdrives, etc.
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When will you be updating MOJO to KitKat?
No news to share regarding this yet. Sorry. :C
gwaldo said:
I use this mini BT kyboard/mouse:
shinatro Mini Bluetooth Keyboard
Works fine, a bit treaky to get used to but very functional.
I haven't tried removing the BT smart dongle, I would say it does need the dongle for the controller only because of android 4.2.2 doesn't support it.
On the new egg TV vid, there's confirmation of Android 4.4 kitkat coming, so I guess that's coming, and when it does the dongle wont be needed on the mojo, as from 4.3 it does support BT smart natively.
Well that's my understanding.
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Just to clarify this even further, whilst 4.3 adds Bluetooth Smart support it doesn't have support for all Bluetooth Smart profiles. 4.4 adds support for HID over GATT which is what's needed for Smart mice, keyboards and game controllers.
Mad Catz Rich said:
Just to clarify this even further, whilst 4.3 adds Bluetooth Smart support it doesn't have support for all Bluetooth Smart profiles. 4.4 adds support for HID over GATT which is what's needed for Smart mice, keyboards and game controllers.
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Hi MC Rich, happy new year
Thanks for the clarification.
Oh the same HID over GATT which iOS has?
I know it's not officially supported, but I did try pairing with iPhone5, but it didn't find it.
gwaldo said:
Hi MC Rich, happy new year
Thanks for the clarification.
Oh the same HID over GATT which iOS has?
I know it's not officially supported, but I did try pairing with iPhone5, but it didn't find it.
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Gamepads have to be specifically created for iOS in order for them to work so, no dice there I'm afraid. The CTRLR will pair directly with one of the following:
Android device running 4.4 + Bluetooth 4.0 chip
Windows 8/8.1 PC with Bluetooth 4.0 chip
Macbook running Mavericks with Bluetooth 4.0 chip
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Gamepads have to be specifically created for iOS in order for them to work so, no dice there I'm afraid. The CTRLR will pair directly with one of the following:
Android device running 4.4 + Bluetooth 4.0 chip
Windows 8/8.1 PC with Bluetooth 4.0 chip
Macbook running Mavericks with Bluetooth 4.0 chip
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My tablet is running 4.0.4 with the MC BT4 dongle over OTG and works fine.
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My tablet is running 4.0.4 with the MC BT4 dongle over OTG and works fine.
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Yep - I did say directly
With the dongle, of course, you can connect it to anything that supports a USB gamepad (and which doesn't require some other form of authentication, such as Xbox 360), which even includes a Playstation 3 (although the button assignments will be all kinds of wrong).
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Yep - I did say directly
With the dongle, of course, you can connect it to anything that supports a USB gamepad (and which doesn't require some other form of authentication,...
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That would mean, I could use the controller with my LG G2 and Nexus 7 ? Both are supporting USB gamepads, keyboards and mousecontroll.
If the Mad Catz BT dongle would act like any other wireless to USB keyboard transmitter, it should work " out of the box ".
That's not the case.
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That would mean, I could use the controller with my LG G2 and Nexus 7 ? Both are supporting USB gamepads, keyboards and mousecontroll.
If the Mad Catz BT dongle would act like any other wireless to USB keyboard transmitter, it should work " out of the box ".
That's not the case.
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It should be - the dongle conforms completely to the HID USB standard so it doesn't do anything funky or out of the ordinary. That said, I've noticed on our Nexus 7 that sometimes you have to unplug/replug the OTG cable a couple of times to get it to recognise correctly, depending on the OTG cable that you use. You can tell if you've got a good connection because the home button LED should illuminate blue rather than flashing.
So yes, provided you've got a good OTG cable and all other things being equal it will work on any device that supports USB game controllers.
I've used this OTG cable on many different devices. It's definately full working. Before my former post, I have rechecked if my wireless keyboard with USB dongle works. Sony Sixaxis on USB are fine working. On both devices. Both devices even have enough power output to run harddrives.
The LG has JB 4.2.2 and the N7 has the actual 4.4.2 running. The controler simply can't pair.
In terminal lsusb didn't even list the dongle as recognized device.
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I've used this OTG cable on many different devices. It's definately full working. Before my former post, I have rechecked if my wireless keyboard with USB dongle works. Sony Sixaxis on USB are fine working. On both devices. Both devices even have enough power output to run harddrives.
The LG has JB 4.2.2 and the N7 has the actual 4.4.2 running. The controler simply can't pair.
In terminal lsusb didn't even list the dongle as recognized device.
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It's clear that it's not getting initialised through that OTG but can't explain why that is happening, I'm afraid. If it's working through your M.O.J.O. then we know it's okay and we don't do anything specific at all on M.O.J.O. to support it - it really is just a USB HID compliant dongle.
Strange, if I connect the bt dongle through a passive hub, it will be recognized by my G2 and N7.
It's not a really handy solution.
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I bought another OTG cable and now, the dongle is recognized to my LG G2 without the HUB.
So, you're absolutely right. The C.T.R.L.R USB-dongle should work with any device. :good:
I've thought about getting the Rii i8+ Wireless 2.4G Mini Keyboard to use with the Nexus Player, my Raspberry Pi, and other android devices. Does anyone know if it works with the Nexus Player? I know that it's Bluetooth, and I suspect that the keyboard works fine, but I wonder if the trackpad works at all. I've tried pairing my old Sony NSZ-GS8 Google TV remote and the trackpad doesn't work at all nor do some of the more convenient buttons on the non-keyboard side.
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I've thought about getting the Rii i8+ Wireless 2.4G Mini Keyboard to use with the Nexus Player, my Raspberry Pi, and other android devices. Does anyone know if it works with the Nexus Player? I know that it's Bluetooth, and I suspect that the keyboard works fine, but I wonder if the trackpad works at all. I've tried pairing my old Sony NSZ-GS8 Google TV remote and the trackpad doesn't work at all nor do some of the more convenient buttons on the non-keyboard side.
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I have the same question - its amazing to me that this device doesn't natively support all Android compatible devices.... Seems like that should be rather straightforward. There should be some sort of simple certification process for accessories to be Android 5.0 compatible....
If someone could check and let us know if it works I'd appreciate it.:good:
Yes. I have one and it works perfectly. It is not BT it uses a receiver dongle which you must plug in via USB OTG.
Work fine with M8S android tv box
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I've thought about getting the Rii i8+ Wireless 2.4G Mini Keyboard to use with the Nexus Player, my Raspberry Pi, and other android devices. Does anyone know if it works with the Nexus Player? I know that it's Bluetooth, and I suspect that the keyboard works fine, but I wonder if the trackpad works at all. I've tried pairing my old Sony NSZ-GS8 Google TV remote and the trackpad doesn't work at all nor do some of the more convenient buttons on the non-keyboard side.
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Touch pad & keyboard works flawlessly. It uses a small dongle (like some wireless mouse), not bluetooth. One annoying thing about it is, turns off/go to standby mode after within a minute of inactivity. It is a nuisance for me, but it does save a loot of battery life. And battery life is really really good for this remote. After purchasing, I charged it only once in 4 months (I don't use is everyday though). Backlight is really good & useful too!
I would use is it as default remote for my Nexus Player, but that auto sleep mode is irritating to me. When it is in sleep mode, it takes about 3-4 seconds to get ready for action. Otherwise, its a very good remote.
I'm computer stupid but I bought this keyboard and can't for the life of me figure out how to use it with my nexus player. Can you explain it for dummies??
All you need to do is buy a USB-OTG micro USB adapter, then plug in the receiver you got into the Nexus Player with it, it is plug and play. Just switch it on.
I've just bought the Bluetooth version and the trackpad is appalling, not even useable. Do you think I would be better off with Wi-Fi version or something different? Very disappointed after the good reviews!
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I've just bought the Bluetooth version and the trackpad is appalling, not even useable. Do you think I would be better off with Wi-Fi version or something different? Very disappointed after the good reviews!
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I was just about to buy one of these (to use with my Nexus 6).
What's the problem with the trackpad? And did you find a better keyboard to replace it with?
I bought it to use with the Nexus player I have just bought. The track pad hardly responded and was basically not useable. From looking at other peoples reviews on Amazon, this seems to be the way it is. To me it should not be sold if it doesn't work. I bought a otg cable and paired the Nexus player with the Logitech k400 plus wireless keyboard. This is so much better and the track pad works perfectly.
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Beauenheim said:
All you need to do is buy a USB-OTG micro USB adapter, then plug in the receiver you got into the Nexus Player with it, it is plug and play. Just switch it on.
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Can you point me towards one? I don't want to order the wrong one Thx.
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Hi. Anyone got experience with connecting a Shenwan 2.4ghz gamepad to a MX10 Android TV box with Oreo. It has no inbuilt Bluetooth and the controller has a 2.4ghz USB dongle.
I'm going through the same problem however the gamepad is an IPEGA 9076, the MX10 does not recognize the USB dongle.
Yeah think it's maybe hit and miss then. Although the Shenwan or whoever the hell makes them, didn't work on any device at all eg ps3. Got refund and need to bin them!
I tried another and it works on the mx10.
https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https://www.ebay.co.uk/ulk/itm/192723335496
Having said that tho the games that support a pad are probably less than 10% of the ones I tried. So not great as a console but not really what the mx10 was designed for despite the marketing. If you want a cheap dongle controller I'd try the above tho and works for me on other devices. Good price and feels like a ps3 pad. Only thing missing is vibration function. Sounds wrong but there you go!
Would an update of the MX10 firmware solve this problem? I think the original Android Oreo of this tvbox is incompatible with gamepads.