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If someone can/has figured this out I'll buy you a beer.
you can use a wiimote..
Actually, you can't:
forum%xda-developers%com/showpost.php?p=7388551&postcount=7 (account not allowed to post links yet)
It is unclear to me whether this is because the Captivate lacks HID profile support, or because as a BT 3.0 device there is some kind of incompatability (I have heard both).
dirtydaub said:
If someone can/has figured this out I'll buy you a beer.
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Sorry, never gonna happen. PS3 controller maybe but the 360 controller isn't BT, it uses a proprietary wireless standard.
Why Xbox or Playstation crap is way overpriced!
If you want to use your phone as an emulator that bad you might as well just pay the $10 for a cheapo BT controller. Don't you want something a lot smaller than a bigun PS3 or x360 controller, I'd think something micro would be better suited for travel.
Plus if you're going to be inside to use this (unless your TV is outside), why not just use a PC and out it at 1080 for the real deal? Or is it more for nostalgia
Cool factor only. But it would be neat if I could use the video out to the TV at the shore house and play a game on that. No PC at my shore house:-(
REAVER117 said:
Sorry, never gonna happen. PS3 controller maybe but the 360 controller isn't BT, it uses a proprietary wireless standard.
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But they also have wired versions that use USB. I don't have a clue about this at all, so I don't know if that's even remotely possible, just throwing one more idea out there. Not as pretty of a solution but if the USB could be sized down to micro and plugged in... Probably not, like I said, just throwing it out there. Would definitely be cool though.
AJerman said:
But they also have wired versions that use USB. I don't have a clue about this at all, so I don't know if that's even remotely possible, just throwing one more idea out there. Not as pretty of a solution but if the USB could be sized down to micro and plugged in... Probably not, like I said, just throwing it out there. Would definitely be cool though.
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Not really possible because the USB doesn't have host support. If someone could write it into the kernel it would be awesome but then there would be many driver issues to arise.
I would just opt for a mini BT gamepad, I am thinking of getting one and loading some old SNES games on my phone.
Wait... is there an actual mini BT game controller that works? I would simply buy one now. Can you point us?
The zeemote looks complicated, you would think a wireless bluetooth snes style controller without axis controls would be simple enough, although I know everyone wants the ps3 for its controls. But this would be an awesome start.
Hopefully with more buttons than the wiimote so snes games play decent.
I would just use the computer you are posting from for this kinda thing.
http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.13760
Some have modded these with a SNES controller. If I had any soldering skills I would try it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OP8JgqmVES8
decepticon said:
Not really possible because the USB doesn't have host support. If someone could write it into the kernel it would be awesome but then there would be many driver issues to arise.
I would just opt for a mini BT gamepad, I am thinking of getting one and loading some old SNES games on my phone.
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Yeah, I kinda wondered about that, but like I said, I'm new to Android so I'm still learning what it can and can't do.
Still, a controller, especially wireless would be awesome to have. I have reason to believe from talking to someone involved that the Wiimote may not be totally out of the equation. Even if not on stock ROMs, custom ROMs may be able to make it work. I guess like everything else we'll just have to wait and see.
wiimote wont work with samsung phones. The developer of wiimote controller emailed me and said its because of the way samsungs added junk deals with bluetooth. Apparently they modify how bluetooth is dealt with from the stock android.
Hmmm... Interesting ideas.... I never even thought about a Bluetooth controller, that could possibly be the answer right there. Has anyone ever messed around with one? Would it be easy to set up with the captivate? Basically I just wanna be able to go over to my friends place and be like, "yo dudes, check THIS OUT!" And play old school games from my phone. More of a novelty than anything really.
illl try to set one up tomorrow and let you guys know if a reg bluetooth one will work with our 3.0. i remember hearing that it wont but i'll verify.
My understanding is that the galaxy S phones dont use the standard "BlueZ" stack. which is why it wont work.
Can anyone confirm if that bluetooth controller linked above from DealExtreme would work? So theoretically, a controller made for bluetooth 3.0 devices would work?
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Can anyone confirm if that bluetooth controller linked above from DealExtreme would work? So theoretically, a controller made for bluetooth 3.0 devices would work?
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It def. works with Android, but a paid drivers pack from the market is required. Now whether it works with the Galaxy S due to the different Bluetooth stack is the unknown part.
I am not sure how deeply the drivers interact with the bluetooth stack, and if they only work with the stock Android stack. I am planning on buying both the controller above and a SNES controller to mod for use with my PC, and phone if it works.
I am having trouble finding a SNES controller locally but I am told that I can get one on Monday from a buddy at my work.
Just checking to see if anybody has made progress on finding a controller for the captivate/galaxy s?
This is probably one of my most wanted features... get that wiimote working somehow.
So, these last few days I've been trying to achieve the functionality of the Sixaxis Controller touch emulation when connected by bluetooth, while using a Mini USB - Micro USB cable instead of bluetooth. I'm doing this because I want to control my computer via Splashtop Gamepad THD with the Dualshock 3 controller, worth mentioning is that it's an original version, not a knockoff. Bluetooth interferes with the WiFi to a level I consider unacceptable, lowering performance by 50-75%.
I've also tried it with USB/BT Joystick Center 8, bluetooth works fine, but wired doesn't even though the developer claims it's supported. The app finds the controller, but doesn't react to any buttons.
Do anyone of you know of a way to solve this?
I'm pretty much **** out of luck unless I get this working or find a USB WiFi stick and android drivers for the 5Ghz band, which I'm not having much luck with. So any help leading to one of these goals would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks in advance!
I could have sworn when I had my Samsung S2 I would plug in an xbox controller via usb through a USB OTG cable and it would just work in games. This isn't happening with my Verizon LG G2 that I thought supports USB OTG. When I plug in a media card reader for example I actually see a popup like something is working. Nothing pops up when I plug in the xbox controller.
Anyone get a gamepad to work or have suggestions?
Here is someone else with the same issue that seems to have made some progress:
http://android.stackexchange.com/questions/54617/wired-xbox-controller-not-working-with-lg-g2
Where are my fellow Android gamepad gamers? You are all on bluetooth controllers? : )
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Here is someone else with the same issue that seems to have made some progress:
http://android.stackexchange.com/questions/54617/wired-xbox-controller-not-working-with-lg-g2
Where are my fellow Android gamepad gamers? You are all on bluetooth controllers? : )
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I'm on Moga and Moga Pro Bluetooth controllers! Don't have a OTG cable. I did get a slimport cable though, and let me tell you, it is sweet playing Modern Combat 4 in 720p on my projector (don't have a 1080p projector) with a wireless controller ON A PHONE!
so you love the Moga? I guess I just figured since I had an xbox controller I'd save the money and only have to worry about battery life on the phone and not the controller. Also the xbox controller is awesome. What to do.... ugh.
Anyone else with gamepad setups they want to share? I guess I'll end up pulling the trigger soon if I can't resolve this. My gaming impatience will get the best of me : )
Another reason why I want wired is to reduce lag etc.. although I don't have experience with bluetooth lag but any perceptible amount is not worth it to me. So check out the email I wrote to LG:
to: LG
How come when I plug in my xbox controller through a usb otg cable it doesn't work? It should. Please see this post:
http://android.stackexchange.com/questions/54617/wired-xbox-controller-not-working-with-lg-g2
By the way, I really love this phone. Just hope you guys can enable gamepad support and pay to click using google wallet and the nfc chip.
Please advise,
Thanks so much,
Tahl
Here was their response... ha:
I apologize that you are having problems with the phone. If your xbox controller is not working with the phone you would have to get repair or troubleshooting information from Customer Care of Xbox.
If you are reading this, hope you had a good laugh too.
I ask LG a solution
tahlsr said:
Another reason why I want wired is to reduce lag etc.. although I don't have experience with bluetooth lag but any perceptible amount is not worth it to me. So check out the email I wrote to LG:
to: LG
How come when I plug in my xbox controller through a usb otg cable it doesn't work? It should. Please see this post:
By the way, I really love this phone. Just hope you guys can enable gamepad support and pay to click using google wallet and the nfc chip.
Please advise,
Thanks so much,
Tahl
Here was their response... ha:
I apologize that you are having problems with the phone. If your xbox controller is not working with the phone you would have to get repair or troubleshooting information from Customer Care of Xbox.
If you are reading this, hope you had a good laugh too.
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I do the same.
I have no solution to connect my wired xbox 360 controller to my LG G2 (if anybody has one, tell me)
I really like my phone and my controller
I hope LG will reply me in a good way but ...
wait and see.
Please ... tell me there is a solution.
Out of curiosity, did you try an AOSP ROM to see if it worked? I did not at this point.
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Out of curiosity, did you try an AOSP ROM to see if it worked? I did not at this point.
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I didn't
I like the Mogas but they Feel similar to a 360.
Personally I think you can't get any better then a PS3 controller. It will work Wired out of the box (haven't tried on the G2) and also wirelessly through bluetooth with the rooted sixaxis app.
The PS3, I think, is a much better controller because of the separated DPad that becomes very very handy in retro gaming. Try playing SNES Mario World with a Moga or 360 and you'll hate it. I currently have 2 Ouya BT Controllers, a 360 Controller w/ Wireless Sync USB, and a PS3 controller.
I'm also curious if the PS4 was ever successfully paired to Android yet. The PS4 is similar to my Ouya Controller in a sense that it has the touchpad built in, which makes it very handy for navigating Android apps on a TV that aren't 100% gamepad compatible.
For gamepads to work, they need the specific .KO file that has the profiles. LG may not have included it. Custom roms should work out of the box though.
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For gamepads to work, they need the specific .KO file that has the profiles. LG may not have included it. Custom roms should work out of the box though.
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Is that possible to include it ?
No answer from LG. I'm furious ! A so good phone and no way to play with a wired controller. I was thinking that the ability was included diectly inside android. Why LG did extract this ability ? Grrrrrrr!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Whoa I'm not saying they excluded it, but probably did... or goofed it up somehow.
Just do Bluetooth. Wired controllers don't work well anyway.
Are you sure it isn't working? You usually are required to download an app from the play store to really start utilizing the controllers for gamplay.
You can also just root and grab an app to restore the .ko file.
-sent from my LG G2 using XDA Premium 4
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Are you sure it isn't working? You usually are required to download an app from the play store to really start utilizing the controllers for gamplay.
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I'm really sure of it. I use my controller on my acer A200 With a dedicated app. It's really good and it works really well.
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You can also just root and grab an app to restore the .ko file.
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i really want to try this but how can I proceed ?
there is a lot of .ko files and I don't know the one to restore and how to do this.
Okay, the first question is aimed at Mad Catz Rich as from what I gathered he is a Mad Catz rep.
Can we expect an OS update to the MOJO? An update to at least 4.3 is important because of FSTrim which seriously affect performance in the long run.
The second question is about the bluetooth and aimed at anybody who can answer. Supposedly the MOJO supports bluetooth but I've also seen mention of a dongle. Do you actually need the dongle to use the controller or is it only for when connecting it to a PC (if it's a requirement it eats up an entire USB right?) So does bluetooth on the device work without the dongle? Can you easily connect devices such as a mouse and a keyboard?
I'm interested in the MOJO but gaming is only third on my list. I want it more as a low power (HT)PC running android so I want to know if my logitech K810 (great for only using one keyboard when switching between the phone, tablet, and PC) would work on it and an actual mouse would be nice since it might take a while to get accustomed to using the mouse mode on the C.T.R.L. (plus I saw some comment somewhere where the person was concerned with the durability of the switch as it would get constant use and a mouse would avoid the need for constant switching).
I'm not sure whether to wait or not as game compatibility is only semi important for me for me (plus I have several humble bundle android games which might avoid the need for play store compatibility). But video playback is important as is the keyboard and mouse. If those work then despite the limited game selection it might be worth it for me.
We have connected a BT keyboard and mouse with no problem to ours. Logitech keyboard, Microsoft mouse & both work well. Neither use a dongle.
I do have the controller's dongle taking up a USB port, but not sure if it actually needs it...I just sort of plugged it in because it was there and I'm a fan of sticking things into other things.
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We have connected a BT keyboard and mouse with no problem to ours. Logitech keyboard, Microsoft mouse & both work well. Neither use a dongle.
I do have the controller's dongle taking up a USB port, but not sure if it actually needs it...I just sort of plugged it in because it was there and I'm a fan of sticking things into other things.
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Thanks! And yeah, many people are of that practice...
Now let's just see if Mad Catz Rich can give us some info on the OS front.
solsearch said:
Thanks! And yeah, many people are of that practice...
Now let's just see if Mad Catz Rich can give us some info on the OS front.
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Controller has built in blue tooth. Just flip the switch the the far left(blue tooth) and hold start button for 5 seconds. Controller will light up and seek nearby Bluetooth devices and sync.
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....The second question is about the bluetooth and aimed at anybody who can answer. Supposedly the MOJO supports bluetooth but I've also seen mention of a dongle. Do you actually need the dongle to use the controller or is it only for when connecting it to a PC (if it's a requirement it eats up an entire USB right?) So does bluetooth on the device work without the dongle? Can you easily connect devices such as a mouse and a keyboard?
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I use this mini BT kyboard/mouse:
shinatro Mini Bluetooth Keyboard
Works fine, a bit treaky to get used to but very functional.
I haven't tried removing the BT smart dongle, I would say it does need the dongle for the controller only because of android 4.2.2 doesn't support it.
On the new egg TV vid, there's confirmation of Android 4.4 kitkat coming, so I guess that's coming, and when it does the dongle wont be needed on the mojo, as from 4.3 it does support BT smart natively.
Well that's my understanding.
Hi,
The CTRLR included with MOJO has Bluetooth Smart built in, allowing it to take advantage of lower latency and lower power consumption from the Low Energy profile of Bluetooth 4.0. Unfortunately, the Android OS won't be able to take advantage of this until KitKat is made more widely available. So, in the meantime, the USB dongle is included to make up for this connection. This will be similar for other Bluetooth Smart devices that don't have the OS/hardware matching up yet. The Bluetooth 4.0 built-in, however, is backwards-compatible with all Bluetooth Classic connections.
Regarding USB ports, using a USB hub should be just fine for connecting additional USB devices. Ie, wired keyboard, wired mouse, usb dongle wireless keyboard or mouse, xbox 360 controller, external hard drives, thumbdrives, etc.
Mad Catz Nate said:
Hi,
The CTRLR included with MOJO has Bluetooth Smart built in, allowing it to take advantage of lower latency and lower power consumption from the Low Energy profile of Bluetooth 4.0. Unfortunately, the Android OS won't be able to take advantage of this until KitKat is made more widely available. So, in the meantime, the USB dongle is included to make up for this connection. This will be similar for other Bluetooth Smart devices that don't have the OS/hardware matching up yet. The Bluetooth 4.0 built-in, however, is backwards-compatible with all Bluetooth Classic connections.
Regarding USB ports, using a USB hub should be just fine for connecting additional USB devices. Ie, wired keyboard, wired mouse, usb dongle wireless keyboard or mouse, xbox 360 controller, external hard drives, thumbdrives, etc.
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When will you be updating MOJO to KitKat?
No news to share regarding this yet. Sorry. :C
gwaldo said:
I use this mini BT kyboard/mouse:
shinatro Mini Bluetooth Keyboard
Works fine, a bit treaky to get used to but very functional.
I haven't tried removing the BT smart dongle, I would say it does need the dongle for the controller only because of android 4.2.2 doesn't support it.
On the new egg TV vid, there's confirmation of Android 4.4 kitkat coming, so I guess that's coming, and when it does the dongle wont be needed on the mojo, as from 4.3 it does support BT smart natively.
Well that's my understanding.
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Just to clarify this even further, whilst 4.3 adds Bluetooth Smart support it doesn't have support for all Bluetooth Smart profiles. 4.4 adds support for HID over GATT which is what's needed for Smart mice, keyboards and game controllers.
Mad Catz Rich said:
Just to clarify this even further, whilst 4.3 adds Bluetooth Smart support it doesn't have support for all Bluetooth Smart profiles. 4.4 adds support for HID over GATT which is what's needed for Smart mice, keyboards and game controllers.
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Hi MC Rich, happy new year
Thanks for the clarification.
Oh the same HID over GATT which iOS has?
I know it's not officially supported, but I did try pairing with iPhone5, but it didn't find it.
gwaldo said:
Hi MC Rich, happy new year
Thanks for the clarification.
Oh the same HID over GATT which iOS has?
I know it's not officially supported, but I did try pairing with iPhone5, but it didn't find it.
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Gamepads have to be specifically created for iOS in order for them to work so, no dice there I'm afraid. The CTRLR will pair directly with one of the following:
Android device running 4.4 + Bluetooth 4.0 chip
Windows 8/8.1 PC with Bluetooth 4.0 chip
Macbook running Mavericks with Bluetooth 4.0 chip
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Gamepads have to be specifically created for iOS in order for them to work so, no dice there I'm afraid. The CTRLR will pair directly with one of the following:
Android device running 4.4 + Bluetooth 4.0 chip
Windows 8/8.1 PC with Bluetooth 4.0 chip
Macbook running Mavericks with Bluetooth 4.0 chip
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My tablet is running 4.0.4 with the MC BT4 dongle over OTG and works fine.
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My tablet is running 4.0.4 with the MC BT4 dongle over OTG and works fine.
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Yep - I did say directly
With the dongle, of course, you can connect it to anything that supports a USB gamepad (and which doesn't require some other form of authentication, such as Xbox 360), which even includes a Playstation 3 (although the button assignments will be all kinds of wrong).
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Yep - I did say directly
With the dongle, of course, you can connect it to anything that supports a USB gamepad (and which doesn't require some other form of authentication,...
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That would mean, I could use the controller with my LG G2 and Nexus 7 ? Both are supporting USB gamepads, keyboards and mousecontroll.
If the Mad Catz BT dongle would act like any other wireless to USB keyboard transmitter, it should work " out of the box ".
That's not the case.
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That would mean, I could use the controller with my LG G2 and Nexus 7 ? Both are supporting USB gamepads, keyboards and mousecontroll.
If the Mad Catz BT dongle would act like any other wireless to USB keyboard transmitter, it should work " out of the box ".
That's not the case.
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It should be - the dongle conforms completely to the HID USB standard so it doesn't do anything funky or out of the ordinary. That said, I've noticed on our Nexus 7 that sometimes you have to unplug/replug the OTG cable a couple of times to get it to recognise correctly, depending on the OTG cable that you use. You can tell if you've got a good connection because the home button LED should illuminate blue rather than flashing.
So yes, provided you've got a good OTG cable and all other things being equal it will work on any device that supports USB game controllers.
I've used this OTG cable on many different devices. It's definately full working. Before my former post, I have rechecked if my wireless keyboard with USB dongle works. Sony Sixaxis on USB are fine working. On both devices. Both devices even have enough power output to run harddrives.
The LG has JB 4.2.2 and the N7 has the actual 4.4.2 running. The controler simply can't pair.
In terminal lsusb didn't even list the dongle as recognized device.
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I've used this OTG cable on many different devices. It's definately full working. Before my former post, I have rechecked if my wireless keyboard with USB dongle works. Sony Sixaxis on USB are fine working. On both devices. Both devices even have enough power output to run harddrives.
The LG has JB 4.2.2 and the N7 has the actual 4.4.2 running. The controler simply can't pair.
In terminal lsusb didn't even list the dongle as recognized device.
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It's clear that it's not getting initialised through that OTG but can't explain why that is happening, I'm afraid. If it's working through your M.O.J.O. then we know it's okay and we don't do anything specific at all on M.O.J.O. to support it - it really is just a USB HID compliant dongle.
Strange, if I connect the bt dongle through a passive hub, it will be recognized by my G2 and N7.
It's not a really handy solution.
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I bought another OTG cable and now, the dongle is recognized to my LG G2 without the HUB.
So, you're absolutely right. The C.T.R.L.R USB-dongle should work with any device. :good:
I tried 4 controllers and 2 cables but the shield never recognizes it. Is there something special I need to do?
2 cables?? What controllers are you using? Wireless?
Note that the charging cable is only a charging cable there is no data at all. X360 Wireless controllers can only be used on PC or Android devices with the PC receiver Microsoft sells.
Lmfao really?. I've never seen another cable for the 360 to be honest so I assumed that was it. So what's the name of the cable I need?
So I guess I need to get the wireless dongle then huh
Yes if you have wireless controllers they only work on Xbox, for other devices you need the receiver. Wired controllers yes they work without any configuration or addon equipment.
As I said the cables you attach in the front of the controller are only for charging purposes nothing else. Even when you plug it to the xbox and use it, it charges the batteries only the connection is still done via wireless.
Yea I understand, I never had a wired controller so I had no idea.
I don't need that $30 new adapter right?
I see people saying $5-10 ones on ebay, do they mean these?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Wireless-Re...374663?hash=item51cb8d2047:g:RYIAAOSw8d9U1Hyt
Yes those are the chinese ones. I cannot ensure you that they will work straight out of box. I read some posts where people add to edit files to use i on Android. Don't know if its true or not. MS ones are much more expensive but they work fine without tweaks but they are also rare. One possibility is you sell one of your remotes for a good buck and buy the combo remote + receiver. I bought one recently for around 40€ but I had only one remote at home.
Which games are you planning to use it on? Full android TV someone reported today that some Android games are not fully compatible because of the Dpad location. I'm guessing some games need a joystick there like the PS3 remotes have. I'm using mine attached to the PC and I use it to play streaming games only, range is quite good on that receiver. For Android games I will probably use the BT ipega gamepad I bought 1 year ago or droidmote
I will use it on some old retro games with friends. Mario kart, tecmo bowl etc. No games too crazy.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Microsoft-X...166510?hash=item3abd5e23ae:g:FFYAAOSwezVWvgTa
This one is official microsft, guess I will get this one
Yap that's an original one. Happy gaming.
the USB cables for the wireless controllers are ONLY for charging.
I know its stupid but theres nothing you can do except getting a wireless adapter.
I got a receiver, ordered it today
Just get the 360 wired controller.
Grippen50 said:
Full android TV someone reported today that some Android games are not fully compatible because of the Dpad location. I'm guessing some games need a joystick there like the PS3 remotes have. I'm using mine attached to the PC and I use it to play streaming games only, range is quite good on that receiver. For Android games I will probably use the BT ipega gamepad I bought 1 year ago or droidmote
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I can confirm that the 360 pad is not fully compatible with some AndroidTV games. Specifically, Portal and Half-Life 2 won't accept input from the d-pad. It has nothing to do with the physical location of the pad, as it should show as a "POV Hat" regardless of its physical location. It just doesn't work for some reason.
...which is a shame, because the Shield controller is rubbish.
unfnknblvbl said:
I can confirm that the 360 pad is not fully compatible with some AndroidTV games. Specifically, Portal and Half-Life 2 won't accept input from the d-pad. It has nothing to do with the physical location of the pad, as it should show as a "POV Hat" regardless of its physical location. It just doesn't work for some reason.
...which is a shame, because the Shield controller is rubbish.
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Dpad also doesn't work on Borderlands the Pre-sequel. And Trine 2 just flat refuses to recognises that you have a controller attached at all. Everything else I've tried works fine.
baileyjr said:
Dpad also doesn't work on Borderlands the Pre-sequel. And Trine 2 just flat refuses to recognises that you have a controller attached at all. Everything else I've tried works fine.
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I think it may just be the specially ported by nVidia games then...?
unfnknblvbl said:
I think it may just be the specially ported by nVidia games then...?
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Yes quite possibly.