Hi, i am noticing that google play services and the Nlp collector wakelock is eating up my battery, almost 25% of it.
is anyone else seeing google play services use that much battery?? Are there any good solutions?
ive turned of google now and this is still happening!
TYIA!
I'm getting this too. It has cut my battery life in half (if not more). Last night I had about an hour of screen on time when I hit 20%.
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Mine too. I cut contacts sync off and its back to normal
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bpowder1966 said:
Hi, i am noticing that google play services and the Nlp collector wakelock is eating up my battery, almost 25% of it.
is anyone else seeing google play services use that much battery?? Are there any good solutions?
ive turned of google now and this is still happening!
TYIA!
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Are you running a ROM? Stock? I'm on Beans build 2 with a bunch of stock apps removed and my battery life is great. I'm still at 90% after 8 hours of use.
Mine seems to be much more sporadic and vague:
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So far, this has been the WORST phone I've ever used in terms of battery life. That coupled with the not charging in USB ports is just ridiculous. Samsung needs to get their [email protected]*T together and fix this kernel.
EDIT: Here's some detail into what "Android Core Apps" is:
How in the hell is Contacts Storage and User Dictionary among the 3 others using 22% of a 3200 mAh battery?
NLP is for location services. It's some sort of bug in 4.3. I think the only option for now is to disable ALL location services until you need them. Hopefully Google corrects this crap soon.
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Are you running a ROM? Stock? I'm on Beans build 2 with a bunch of stock apps removed and my battery life is great. I'm still at 90% after 8 hours of use.
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You mean 8 hours off the charger? If you were at 90% after 8 hours of screen on time, the government would confiscate your phone and turn it over to DARPA for testing.
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NLP is for location services. It's some sort of bug in 4.3. I think the only option for now is to disable ALL location services until you need them. Hopefully Google corrects this crap soon.
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You mean 8 hours off the charger? If you were at 90% after 8 hours of screen on time, the government would confiscate your phone and turn it over to DARPA for testing.
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Lol...yup, just off the charger time.
bpowder1966 said:
Hi, i am noticing that google play services and the Nlp collector wakelock is eating up my battery, almost 25% of it.
is anyone else seeing google play services use that much battery?? Are there any good solutions?
ive turned of google now and this is still happening!
TYIA!
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use smart battery saver below
http://www.imobileface.com/video/250/smart-battery-saver-review/
I'm rooted with bloatware disabled. For the first couple weeks, battery was fine (4-5 hrs screen on time). This drain is pretty recent it seems.
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I'm having the same issue seems to have only been like this for the last 4-5 days. Before that battery life was great. Now it's draining very fast. What gives?
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I found this in another thread. I forced closed Google play services via application manager. Then I used titanium backup to un install it. Then I went into recovery and wiped dalvik. At reboot it optimizes apps. Then I opened maps and it asked to install Google play from the play store. Hoping it fixes it. Here's the original post.
sublimaze said:
I see you have the Google Services battery hog feature enabled. I had the same issue. Here is how to put Google Services in its place:
1. Stop Google Services via TiBU or Settings > Apps, then uninstall it
2. Reboot to recovery & clear dalvik. Reboot system
3. Open Maps. You will be prompted to install Google Services from Play Market, do it
4. Enjoy better battery life
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Chillout2010 said:
I found this in another thread. I forced closed Google play services via application manager. Then I used titanium backup to un install it. Then I went into recovery and wiped dalvik. At reboot it optimizes apps. Then I opened maps and it asked to install Google play from the play store. Hoping it fixes it.
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Google Play Services was my #1 battery leech until I replaced it with the market version. After doing that, GPS no longer appears on Settings > Battery or Better Battery Stats.
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Anyone having an issue with the market where you can download apps etc. But if you try and look at "My apps" or "My downloads" it gives you a "server error has occurred. Retry, or cancel and return to the previous screen?"
Started last night, tried everything I can think of.
Anyone see this before?
Ditto for me. FYI, my market app was an apk install. I didn't wait for automatic update.
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There's my error, occurs after clocking my downloads,
Tried:
Fix permissions,
Clear cache/data of market app
Clear davlik cache
Clear cache in clockwork
Install apk of new market app
Uninstall updates of market app
Market doctor in titanium
Nandroid to my last known good configuration
Anyone have another idea short of factory reset/flash new rom? That's my next step but I wanna give it a few days to see if it possibly could just be a Google server error for me.
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I've been having the same problem since yesterday with different roms and new and old market.
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I also have this problem, tested on every Rom in Rom Manager. I believe the problem us that I am using google as apps for my main email address. I tested with a factory reload with my gmail address and the market worked. Then I tired adding an credit card to my google apps account from my pc without any luck.
I previously made purchases with my google app account, but am no longer able to even view previous transactions. The problem is on google ends, but I have no ideal in to fix the problem or who to contact.
To complicate things further any new google app account works in purchasing apps, just the account that had previous purchases before google upgraded google apps to allow google apps account to work across google products
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djhughes said:
I also have this problem, tested on every Rom in Rom Manager. I believe the problem us that I am using google as apps for my main email address. I tested with a factory reload with my gmail address and the market worked. Then I tired adding an credit card to my google apps account from my pc without any luck.
I previously made purchases with my google app account, but am no longer able to even view previous transactions. The problem is on google ends, but I have no ideal in to fix the problem or who to contact.
To complicate things further any new google app account works in purchasing apps, just the account that had previous purchases before google upgraded google apps to allow google apps account to work across google products
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Good to know its not just my issue. And FYI, im using a regular Gmail account, not Google Apps account, so at least it doesnt appear to be an issue limited to that for me.
Had the same problem running Redemptive rEVOlution 2.1.3. I just started yesterday. I didn't update the Market, tried clearing cache/data/dalvik cache. Also on 3g and on wi-fi. I did update the kernel a couple of days ago and can't remember if I accessed the market since then (I think so though). I finally gave up and decided to flash to a different ROM today. Going back to SR for a little while. I am also not using a Google apps account.
streetglyden said:
Had the same problem running Redemptive rEVOlution 2.1.3. I just started yesterday. I didn't update the Market, tried clearing cache/data/dalvik cache. Also on 3g and on wi-fi. I did update the kernel a couple of days ago and can't remember if I accessed the market since then (I think so though). I finally gave up and decided to flash to a different ROM today. Going back to SR for a little while. I am also not using a Google apps account.
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Did that fix your problem? flashing a new rom?
I've been using the same ROM and Lou's #4 kernel for a couple weeks now. Only recently I've notice issues with the Market. I'm sure future updates will clear things up.
streetglyden said:
Had the same problem running Redemptive rEVOlution 2.1.3. I just started yesterday. I didn't update the Market, tried clearing cache/data/dalvik cache. Also on 3g and on wi-fi. I did update the kernel a couple of days ago and can't remember if I accessed the market since then (I think so though). I finally gave up and decided to flash to a different ROM today. Going back to SR for a little while. I am also not using a Google apps account.
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Did that fix your problem? flashing a new rom?
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For the most part. I see it sometimes but I can hit retry and it eventually goes through. I also loaded the new market though.
For the record, I have the same issue on my Desire HD.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=9951677#post9951677
I installed the market early myself. Regular Google Account.
I was receiving the market error as well but about 30 minutes ago it started working.
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Same here.
I got to work, tried it on both WIFI and 3G, appears to be all good now.
Must have just been a google server side issue after all.
Edit: and I did get automatically updated to the new market once I went in the second time. FWIW
Hey guys,
So I know that this is a common problem lately. I just started experiencing it this last week. I noticed that my idle battery life was going down very quickly. I charged my phone to 100% last night and woke up after 8 hours to see 50%. i was pretty furious. I did a bit of research and I realized that there was an update for Google Play that was supposed to get rid of the drain. I downloaded the update, and it did help. My battery life seems almost back to normal but not quite. I notice that Google Services is still using a good chunk of the battery. It's currently using 10%, which is pretty odd considering i never used to see it pop up on my battery screen.
So I did a bit more reading and I was told on another forum that I need to manually change the sync settings for each Google application. Does anyone know how to do this? I went to Settings > Accounts > Google and clicked on my account. I saw all the options to enable/disable sync, so I disabled sync for a few apps. However, I didn't see any settings to change the length between each sync. Does anyone know how I can change this?
Either way, doesn't this all seem arbitrary? My battery was running great for a couple months and now and Google services was never an issue. How has it suddenly become an issue on my phone? Seems so random
So I disabled sync for everything but a couple of Google apps. The battery is better but I still used 24% overnight. I woke up to a 76% battery. I used to wake up to a 94% battery so I'm not sure what's up. At least google services isn't showing up on the battery stats anymore
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OnSugarHill said:
So I disabled sync for everything but a couple of Google apps. The battery is better but I still used 24% overnight. I woke up to a 76% battery. I used to wake up to a 94% battery so I'm not sure what's up. At least google services isn't showing up on the battery stats anymore
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Are you running a custom ROM or custom kernel?
Also, is power saving mode enabled? Usually my battery drains 1%/hour when on standby, if even that.
Try messing with the GPS settings or location services?
Delete Google backup transport
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N_otori0us_ said:
Delete Google backup transport
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How do I do this on the s4? Do I just find the apk file and delete it?
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How do I do this on the s4? Do I just find the apk file and delete it?
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Yes. Go into
/system/app
It should be there. Delete and then reboot
Also you can freeze the stuff you won't be using by going into settings> apps > all
And then click on the app you don't t want and then it will say disable.
You can freeze more apps with titanium backup though
Hope I helped
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Just curious, can we use TiBu to convert Google Play Services to a "user app" and then Greenify it? Or will that have adverse effects?
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N_otori0us_ said:
Yes. Go into
/system/app
It should be there. Delete and then reboot
Also you can freeze the stuff you won't be using by going into settings> apps > all
And then click on the app you don't t want and then it will say disable.
You can freeze more apps with titanium backup though
Hope I helped
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I've noticed that some apps won't let me disable them. Are there some apps I can't disable without rooting?
Also, will I lose functionality by deleting Backup Transport? I'm not sure exactly what it does. Does it upload changes to my Google apps to my account? For example, will changes I make to my phone calendar still be changed on my Google calendar?
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I just tried uninstalling the Backup Transport by using Root Finder. It didn't work. Do I need to root my phone to be able to uninstall apps like that? Or do I have to do everything through the App Manager?
OnSugarHill said:
I just tried uninstalling the Backup Transport by using Root Finder. It didn't work. Do I need to root my phone to be able to uninstall apps like that? Or do I have to do everything through the App Manager?
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You gotta root your phone. To be honest I don't really know what it does.
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Hey guys,
So I know that this is a common problem lately. I just started experiencing it this last week. I noticed that my idle battery life was going down very quickly.
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If you're not rooted, root your phone and get BetterBatteryStats. You have wake locks that are keeping your phone from going into deep sleep. Bbs will help you find the wake locks.
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Problem seems to have gone away. I only lost about 8% battery over about a 9 hour span
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OnSugarHill said:
Also, will I lose functionality by deleting Backup Transport? I'm not sure exactly what it does. Does it upload changes to my Google apps to my account?
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From Google:
Android Backup Service provides a backup transport for Android's data backup framework, which allows you to copy a user's persistent app data to remote "cloud" storage. Backing up persistent data this way provides a restore point for the app on most devices running Android 2.2 or higher. The backup service is not designed for synchronizing application data with other clients or saving data that you'd like to access at random during the application lifecycle.
The Android Backup Service offered by Google provides a backup transport on most devices that include Google Play Store and backs up your app data to Google servers. The backup transport may differ from device to device and which backup transport is available on any device is transparent to your application.
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Looks like the only functionality you'll lose is certain apps backing up their data to the cloud.
EDIT: I just froze the backup transport with Titanium Backup. This may just be a coincidence...but after a while I noticed I was no longer receiving notifications from certain apps. I unfroze it, and a minute later I was flooded with notifications. Hmm.
After the new update, I noticed that Google services remains high up on the usage list under my battery stats. I am not rooted and stock. I haven't changed any other of my Google settings since the update nor have I installed any new apps. I installed better battery stats, and although phone is sleeping, under partial wake locks it shows nlpwakelock at the top which is some sort of Google service. Any ideas? Thanks
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I had this also. This is what I did.
Uninstall Google maps update from Applications. Clear cache/data (whatever is there) and reboot.
Update Maps from play store.
I found this by searching Google, it worked for me, hopefully for you. Now if I can figure out a good screen setting so that won't kill my battery.
I haven't received the update yet but the last few days Google services has used the most battery where normally the display is the highest. I checked my sync settings and my contacts, calendar, ect had errors and it said at the bottom "sync experiencing problems" I unchecked everything and rechecked one by one. Now I don't even see Google services on the battery stats anymore
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Sync was working fine, and tried the above maps suggestion and still getting that darned Google services.
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Well, it appears it was google+ related. I just got an update for google+ and Google services no longer remains on top of the battery stats for now. I'll have to keep an eye on it and report back.
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Google had a major outage this week that affected a lot of the apps that use google services. The high drain might have been caused by the outage and apps continually trying to sync with down servers.
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Just out of curiosity, my phone has been running for just over 16 hours and Google services is still showing in battery stats and that it's kept my phone awake for 12 minutes. Although my battery seems to be getting good life, I'm curious what others are showing for awake time for google services. Thanks guys.
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I was only having a issue when sync was experiencing issues.
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That's weird. My accounts are syncing fine yet still remains in battery stats.
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I have even removed account and Re added. Still in the battery list.
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Google Services accounted for 68% of my battery, but yet somehow I still managed to get awesome battery life (25hrs).
I am getting pretty good battery as well. I'm starting to think that perhaps with the new update that something has changed in the way Google services is being reported. Nonetheless, would still like to know what others are showing since the update.
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I had this issue as well.
Turning off location services, google now, and clearing cache and data for google services framework.
Dirty fix, but does the trick
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s.lee1993 said:
I had this issue as well.
Turning off location services, google now, and clearing cache and data for google services framework.
Dirty fix, but does the trick
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And then turn them back on?? I use Location Services and Google Now all the time!
i have google service use up 40% of my battery life never use to do that
i guess with GPS - and Apps try to use your location and Google now what causing the google services to use up battery
OK, so after some Googling, it seems this is a widespread problem across many different devices, not just specific to our S4 or to Samsung. This must be on Googles end...possibly network location servers or such? This seems to be happening at random, over the past few months and magically cures itself just ass randomly.
It's still appearing in my battery stats list somewhere in the middle, but what's odd is even with that, I got 27 hours of battery life with half that time over 3g network... Google now on, 2 hours voice calls and 3.5 hours screen time. Perhaps something with Google servers reporting Google services changed but not affecting battery? What type of battery life is everyone else getting?
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Yea i like them too, but its a dirty fix for the problem
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I've been having this issue since I updated to MF9. I'd see Google Services as the main battery culprit in the built in battery usage display. When looking in BBS it showed up as NLPwakelock. While searching for an answer I came across a post in the International S4 forum talking about the nlpwakelocks.
In the thread rl421403 states the issue is caused by Play 4.1.6, which I had. I just updated my Play Store to 4.1.10 to see if that resolves the issue for me. I'll report back in a few days but this looks very promising.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=43676594&postcount=35
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Hello, anyone can help with this?? I have tried factory reset, install New Google photos app, but nothing helped with this battery drain by Google photos. I already freeze the app but i prefer another solution
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Yup had the same problem. What I did is uninstalled the latest updated version from June 22nd (1.23.0.125579575) and installed from APKMirror the previous version (1.22.0.124168645). The wakelock went away.
However I just checked and a new version (1.23.0.125818713) want online on APK today and play store. I am downloading and will test it out.
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Yup had the same problem. What I did is uninstalled the latest updated version from June 22nd (1.23.0.125579575) and installed from APKMirror the previous version (1.22.0.124168645). The wakelock went away.
However I just checked and a new version (1.23.0.125818713) want online on APK today and play store. I am downloading and will test it out.
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No go with the latest Photos update... Do as I did install this version 1.22.0.124168645.
I'm having the same problem.
On the latest update, I gave the Photos app every permission listed in app info, rebooted, now the wakelock seems to have settled down. I'll keep an eye on it
I dont understand why this happens... With the latest update the wakelocks continue... Maybe will try previous version
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I have this same problem. Will the out older version.
r3ix said:
I dont understand why this happens... With the latest update the wakelocks continue... Maybe will try previous version
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Same problem and reverted to a previous version. All good now.
http://www.apkmirror.com/apk/google-inc/photos/photos-2-1-0-134852482-release/
I have the Google Photos 2.2.0.135750339 version and zero issues.
I had no idea ppl actually used google photos. I take that **** out and use Gallery 3D. No issues ever
Eric214 said:
I had no idea ppl actually used google photos. I take that **** out and use Gallery 3D. No issues ever
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Why do you think google photos is crap?
rsbenedict said:
Why do you think google photos is crap?
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Most google apps are not great for wakelocks. Plus they also tend to cause bugs with updates as much as they actually have good updates. I read as much about bugs with google apps as anything. I use very little google apps.
Eric214 said:
Most google apps are not great for wakelocks. Plus they also tend to cause bugs with updates as much as they actually have good updates. I read as much about bugs with google apps as anything. I use very little google apps.
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I've never had issues with Google apps and generally prefer them over alternatives.
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I've never had issues with Google apps and generally prefer them over alternatives.
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Interesting, you can go back years and find how Google play or Google services, Google music the list goes on about battery drains and wakelock issues. Good that you never has those issues.
I find 3rd part apps (you have to search for the good ones) tend to be better with battery drain and wakelocks. Apps such as textra, habit browser, gallery 3d, boxer email, esfile manager (v3.25) and Nova launcher to name some. With these apps I see awake times of about 1-1.5% outer hour usually.
Eric214 said:
Interesting, you can go back years and find how Google play or Google services, Google music the list goes on about battery drains and wakelock issues. Good that you never has those issues.
I find 3rd part apps (you have to search for the good ones) tend to be better with battery drain and wakelocks. Apps such as textra, habit browser, gallery 3d, boxer email, esfile manager (v3.25) and Nova launcher to name some. With these apps I see awake times of about 1-1.5% outer hour usually.
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Sorry to say but there are just as many bad 3rd party apps that cause wakelocks and battery drain. It's an OS problem. Something IOS doesn't have to contend with but at the same time they have very little going on in the background like Android apps do. I use a few of the apps you mentioned ie. Textra and Nova Launcher but I use Nine for email as well as Gmail. I like google Photos. All my photos are backed up for free. I can access them at any time on any platform with an internet connection. It is constantly improving as well.
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Sorry to say but there are just as many bad 3rd party apps that cause wakelocks and battery drain. It's an OS problem. Something IOS doesn't have to contend with but at the same time they have very little going on in the background like Android apps do. I use a few of the apps you mentioned ie. Textra and Nova Launcher but I use Nine for email as well as Gmail. I like google Photos. All my photos are backed up for free. I can access them at any time on any platform with an internet connection. It is constantly improving as well.
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Like said, you still have to search for the good 3rd party apps. So when a Google app is having issues, you can't get another Google app. Plus with Google also trying to pry every ounce of info from your phone at all times, I feel they cause those drains and wakelocks with all the data retrieval.
Also, I have 50gb of free Dropbox and I also have my photos stored locally on my PC which I can access either anytime I want as well. It's to each there own. Like I said didn't think many used very many of the Google apps. You hear a lot of people mention they want the minimal gapps
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Like said, you still have to search for the good 3rd party apps. So when a Google app is having issues, you can't get another Google app. Plus with Google also trying to pry every ounce of info from your phone at all times, I feel they cause those drains and wakelocks with all the data retrieval.
Also, I have 50gb of free Dropbox and I also have my photos stored locally on my PC which I can access either anytime I want as well. It's to each there own. Like I said didn't think many used very many of the Google apps. You hear a lot of people mention they want the minimal gapps
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I understand. I've always liked the google apps and haven't had any issues. To each their own. I also have dropbox and icloud (for my mac and ipad), but prefer Google Drive and I love the Photos app.
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Eric214 said:
Like said, you still have to search for the good 3rd party apps. So when a Google app is having issues, you can't get another Google app. Plus with Google also trying to pry every ounce of info from your phone at all times, I feel they cause those drains and wakelocks with all the data retrieval.
Also, I have 50gb of free Dropbox and I also have my photos stored locally on my PC which I can access either anytime I want as well. It's to each there own. Like I said didn't think many used very many of the Google apps. You hear a lot of people mention they want the minimal gapps
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Sorry, the site quoted the wrong post (must have come in while I was posting). Sorry.
Eric214 said:
Like said, you still have to search for the good 3rd party apps. So when a Google app is having issues, you can't get another Google app. Plus with Google also trying to pry every ounce of info from your phone at all times, I feel they cause those drains and wakelocks with all the data retrieval.
Also, I have 50gb of free Dropbox and I also have my photos stored locally on my PC which I can access either anytime I want as well. It's to each there own. Like I said didn't think many used very many of the Google apps. You hear a lot of people mention they want the minimal gapps
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lol..At this point every OS is trying to pry every ounce of info from every device with an internet connection. Don't kid yourself. It is just some are more subtle about it than offers. I use a VPN on my phone with a firewall and ad blocker. It isn't 100% but it is better than nothing.
Dropbox is ok but again I prefer Google Drive. Uploading photos and videos on Dropbox take forever on my phone or desktop. I also don't like how they arrange them. I actually don't hear a lot of people saying they want nothing to do with Google apps. You are actually the first person that seems so passionate about it.
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lol..At this point every OS is trying to pry every ounce of info from every device with an internet connection. Don't kid yourself. It is just some are more subtle about it than offers. I use a VPN on my phone with a firewall and ad blocker. It isn't 100% but it is better than nothing.
Dropbox is ok but again I prefer Google Drive. Uploading photos and videos on Dropbox take forever on my phone or desktop. I also don't like how they arrange them. I actually don't hear a lot of people saying they want nothing to do with Google apps. You are actually the first person that seems so passionate about it.
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I agree. I've only heard of one other who is a conspiracy theorist. I'm not concerned with the info that Google or anyone else collects. It anonymized and they aren't the only ones doing it, they're just the most upfront.
Google makes my life easier and more organized and I appreciate what they bring to the table. The Google Assistant and Google Now wouldn't be possible without keeping track of our info. I can't tell you how Google has saved my but by telling me I needed to leave for an appointment EARLIER than normal because of unexpected traffic or other delay.
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lol..At this point every OS is trying to pry every ounce of info from every device with an internet connection. Don't kid yourself. It is just some are more subtle about it than offers. I use a VPN on my phone with a firewall and ad blocker. It isn't 100% but it is better than nothing.
Dropbox is ok but again I prefer Google Drive. Uploading photos and videos on Dropbox take forever on my phone or desktop. I also don't like how they arrange them. I actually don't hear a lot of people saying they want nothing to do with Google apps. You are actually the first person that seems so passionate about it.
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I'm not talking about the OS, but the apps that come from Google. There is a difference. I'm not being passionate just my opinion and you can look through a lot of the ROM threads and people like the minimal gapps a lot of the time..
Anyway, good chat, enjoy your apps
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I agree. I've only heard of one other who is a conspiracy theorist. I'm not concerned with the info that Google or anyone else collects. It anonymized and they aren't the only ones doing it, they're just the most upfront.
Google makes my life easier and more organized and I appreciate what they bring to the table. The Google Assistant and Google Now wouldn't be possible without keeping track of our info. I can't tell you how Google has saved my but by telling me I needed to leave for an appointment EARLIER than normal because of unexpected traffic or other delay.
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ROFL, I'm not a conspiracy theorist. The info tracking was brought up for causing the heavy wakelocks and battery drains. Google is just the worst when it comes to info tracking that sometimes I think they get too aggressive and that's when you see battery drain and wakelock issues after some updates. I use a couple Google as well, just not many. I still use maps and Google calendar, but nothing else really.
So to me it's just less of a Hassel to sometimes having to find a 3rd party app when they have issues like photos is having lately
Eric214 said:
I'm not talking about the OS, but the apps that come from Google. There is a difference. I'm not being passionate just my opinion and you can look through a lot of the ROM threads and people like the minimal gapps a lot of the time..
Anyway, good chat, enjoy your apps
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ROFL, I'm not a conspiracy theorist. The info tracking was brought up for causing the heavy wakelocks and battery drains. Google is just the worst when it comes to info tracking that sometimes I think they get too aggressive and that's when you see battery drain and wakelock issues after some updates. I use a couple Google as well, just not many. I still use maps and Google calendar, but nothing else really.
So to me it's just less of a Hassel to sometimes having to find a 3rd party app when they have issues like photos is having lately
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Didn't mean to imply you were, but my friend definitely is. Likes to live as off the grid as possible though he uses the internet but thinks ALL THINGS GOOGLE are EVIL.
Hi,
Don't know if it's related to OOs 5.0.1 but I noticed a quite important battery drain with Google play services (dirty flashed following a clean Oreo Flash).
I'm not sure but I think it may be due to motion sensors usage like you can see on the snapshot.
What I tried without success:
1/ Removed "Modify system settings" permission (Google play services)
2/ Installed AKT (X.A.N.A. battery extreme)
3/ EnableDozeForGMS through TWRP (doesn't seems to work on OOs)
4/ Removed following permissions for Google play services: "Body sensors" and "Microphone"
5/ Uninstalled (Titanium) GMail app
6/ Google settings > Getting around, deactivated "Google voice & Audio activity"
7/ Blocked all wakelocks on EXKM (Flash kernel)
Going to try:
8/ Reactivating aggressive Doze in battery options
9/ Sys Patcher Magisk module (force Doze for Google play services)
Thanks for your advice. [emoji846]
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That's very weird. I have GSam battery monitor too and I don't have ANY sensor on Google play services. I have them all, exactly like you have posted, but on Android System.
What version of Google Play Services do you have installed?
It's probably because of the dirty flash. I used to experience similar problems so I stopped doing dirty flashes of OOS updates. I haven't had any weird battery drain issues since.
tWoBrO said:
That's very weird. I have GSam battery monitor too and I don't have ANY sensor on Google play services. I have them all, exactly like you have posted, but on Android System.
What version of Google Play Services do you have installed?View attachment 4382692View attachment 4382693
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@tWoBrO
Yes that's weird!
I checked Android system, there's also same kind of sensor but there's a lot more usage on Google play services! (14h)
Google play services' version installed is: 11.9.51 (440-177350961)
I just tried to update Google play services to the latest beta version available from APK mirror (11.9.73).
Will see whether there's a benefit!
Sinaptik said:
I just tried to update Google play services to the latest beta version available from APK mirror (11.9.73).
Will see whether there's a benefit!
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I have the updated version installed but it doesn't seem to make any difference.
I'm also experiencing heavy Google Play Services wakelocks, especially net scheduler. The old fix using MyAndroidTools doesn't work for me on Oreo. Since Xposed is now out, we could try Amplify I guess.
Ok here. Just wipe the data of play services, and u are good to go!
ipredatorv said:
I'm also experiencing heavy Google Play Services wakelocks, especially net scheduler. The old fix using MyAndroidTools doesn't work for me on Oreo. Since Xposed is now out, we could try Amplify I guess.
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I can confirm the MyAndroid tools trick isn't working on Oreo.
Will see if clearing data of Google play services works better, thanks for the advice.
Sinaptik said:
I can confirm the MyAndroid tools trick isn't working on Oreo.
Will see if clearing data of Google play services works better, thanks for the advice.
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I tried the app WakeBlock, and it worked perfectly!
For everyone suffering from related wakelocks, and didn't pay for Amplify/don't have Xposed, get WakeBlock from XDA or Playstore.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/software/wakeblock-blocking-drain-late-t3526313/page111
Updated OOs to Codename Phoenix (clean flash).
Problem solved, of course.
Is it true that when you block some wakelocks, appear some others?? And how can we stop google play services from waking the device? Its so annoying!!
You can see at screenshot that i haze zero wakelocks, cause i blocked them all with Wakeblock app. But still my device woke up 236 times in 2.45 minutes cpu time? What's going on?
lazostat said:
Is it true that when you block some wakelocks, appear some others?? And how can we stop google play services from waking the device? Its so annoying!!
You can see at screenshot that i haze zero wakelocks, cause i blocked them all with Wakeblock app. But still my device woke up 236 times in 2.45 minutes cpu time? What's going on?
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You have accounts that needs to be synced all the time? Then they use Google cloud messaging or play services to access the internet. Since(I don't remember the exact version) android 4 or so no app can directly sync accounts without Google play services.
Just turn off "Backup my data" and problem solved for me
Does anyone have a fix that works for Non Root users? There does always seem to be some problem with android battery life in every other device I have used. Also why disable certain features when I was getting the same battery life with the pre installed OOS without disabling those features.
A smartphone is for productivity & if I always have to waste my time finding a fix for it I think I am better off with an IPhone next. Atleast the standby drain is nil, it uses battery when I use my phone as simple as that.
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Does anyone have a fix that works for Non Root users? There does always seem to be some problem with android battery life in every other device I have used. Also why disable certain features when I was getting the same battery life with the pre installed OOS without disabling those features.
A smartphone is for productivity & if I always have to waste my time finding a fix for it I think I am better off with an IPhone next. Atleast the standby drain is nil, it uses battery when I use my phone as simple as that.
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I have an iPhone 6s too and it drains a lot in flight mode and even when using it it's not better than then android. Accounts needs to be synced too in the background as well as location and you need to disable a lot out of the ios box before battery life on iPhone is better.
Now back to topic:
As I mentioned above, battery draining is a really individual thing which cannot be fixed by one click. There's a big battery guide which you should consider to read(if not known): https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/general/guide-extreme-battery-life-t3095884
strongst said:
I have an iPhone 6s too and it drains a lot in flight mode and even when using it it's not better than then android. Accounts needs to be synced too in the background as well as location and you need to disable a lot out of the ios box before battery life on iPhone is better.
Now back to topic:
As I mentioned above, battery draining is a really individual thing which cannot be fixed by one click. There's a big battery guide which you should consider to read(if not known): https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/general/guide-extreme-battery-life-t3095884
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Thanks will go through the guide. Then I guess the Smartphones aren't really that smart. Just charge it whenever the battery is low without worrying too much. Dash Charge is always there.