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So let's match up the latest contender against the current king of "pocketables" (our beloved Tab 7.7) in terms of hardware:
Specs of the main rivals (as of Nov 2012):
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Galaxy Tab 7.7 iPad Mini Nexus 7 Kindle Fire HD
Dimensions 196.7 x 133 x 7.9 mm 200 x 134.7 x 7.2 mm 198.5 x 120 x 10.5 mm 193 x 137 x 10.3 mm
Weight 340 g 308 g 340 g 395 g
Resolution 1280 x 800 1024 x 768 1280 x 800 1280 x 800
Screen 7.7" 196 ppi 7.9" 162 ppi 7.0" 216 ppi 7.0" 216 ppi
Cams 3.15 & 2 MP 5 & 1 MP 1.2 MP 1.3 MP
Micro-SD yes no no no
CPU Dual-core 1.4 GHz A9 Dual-core 1 Ghz A9 Quad-core 1.3 GHz A9 Dual-core 1.2 GHz A9
GPU Mali-400MP PowerVR SGX MP4+ GeForce PowerVR SGX540
RAM 1 GB 512 MB 1 GB 512 MB
GPS yes no yes no
Misc voice call support NFC
Verdict:
Dimensions: draw
Weight: iPad Mini
Resolution: Tab 7.7
Screen: Tab 7.7
Cams: draw
Micro-SD: Tab 7.7
CPU: Tab 7.7
GPU: Tab 7.7
RAM: Tab 7.7
GPS: Tab 7.7
Looking at the hardware it looks like a clear win for the Tab 7.7.
For those looking for LTE data: supported by both Verizon's Tab 7.7 and iPad Mini LTE version
So, to summarize the iPad Mini:
The Good: light weight, good back cam
The Bad: front cam, no expandable memory, no USB peripheral connectivity, no GPS
The Ugly: 162ppi (in 2012) is going to be pushing it when reading full size PDFs, non-uniform bezel not really great design choice
What do you guys think?
The only good thing here, is that there will be a lot of accessories for the ipad mini and there is a slight chance that some of these might fit the 7.7 .
I do feel that samsung might come out with another amoled tab in january at CES but I could be wrong.
ascariss said:
The only good thing here, is that there will be a lot of accessories for the ipad mini and there is a slight chance that some of these might fit the 7.7 .
I do feel that samsung might come out with another amoled tab in january at CES but I could be wrong.
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I hope so too. A 7.7 successor with stylus, 1920x1080 (286 ppi) screen and wireless charging would be a game changer.
Accessories wise I'm pretty happy handling the device without any bulky covers; and the screen protectors won't be compatible, not sure what the Mini could contribute..
I'll pass on the Mini, if only to have it just play with. One dealbreaker too many -- no microsd slot. End of story.
I might jump ship for a Asus padphone 2
Tab 7.7 definitely wins here. The iPad mini isn't worth it.
Tab 7.7 has the native Voice Call !!!!!
Absolutely the must-have feature.
7.7 original innovation. Ipad Mini same as ipad 2 but smaller no innovation. And waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay to expensive for it to compete with anything else. Sure the 7.7 was over $600 US but I would gladly pay that anytime over a shrunken down version of an old product
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While the hardware of the 7.7 is great and the fact that Samsung got it right on the size (a fraction of an inch really does matter in the 7inch tablet market) -- Apple's advantage is it's ecosystem. It is a fact that their tablets will be upgraded to iOS7 and iOS8. Until Android and/or Samsung get down to a good software support model we won't win. Give me a 7.7 Nexus that has an annual software update and isn't discontinued and I think I'll be happy.
Agreed the Gtab 7.7 is superior, and it was a device announced in 2011!
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While the hardware of the 7.7 is great and the fact that Samsung got it right on the size (a fraction of an inch really does matter in the 7inch tablet market) -- Apple's advantage is it's ecosystem. It is a fact that their tablets will be upgraded to iOS7 and iOS8. Until Android and/or Samsung get down to a good software support model we won't win. Give me a 7.7 Nexus that has an annual software update and isn't discontinued and I think I'll be happy.
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As long as some people from Team Hacksung don't jump ship, we'll have newer OSs. The 7.7 is mostly the same as a Galaxy SII, and almost the same as a Note. Both devices are being worked on by people from the Team, and most of the Exynos 4212's stupidities are known and somewhat understood. Although our device isn't as well supported as the Note, we will get whatever CM version the Note gets; right now locerra is working to avoid the rough edges, but if he stops doing so someone from the community will step up. We won't get a TouchWiz Android 4.2+, but we will get it (and future versions) on AOSP.
A 1024x768 4:3 screen vs 1280x800 SAMOLED+? It's not even fair.
Apparently the Mini doesn't include a GPS either, whereas the Tab7.7 comes out of the box with GPS enabled Google Maps. Then add (compass enabled) Streetview and Google Earth (and compare it to Apple maps w/o GPS) and it's not even a contest in this category.
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nephridium said:
I hope so too. A 7.7 successor with stylus, 1920x1080 (286 ppi) screen and wireless charging would be a game changer.
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+1 to that. My wish
I would say the nexus 7 is better based on the specs I do not like apple products at all but will probably buy the iPad mini when available to test it out and see how good the screen is compared to the nexus
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I just bought a gtab 7.7 and am well within my 14 day return period. Here are the reasons I am not going to get the ipad mini:
- GPS. How can apple not include this? Unbelievable.
- screen quality. While I have not seen the ipad mini, I love the display on the gtab 7.7. It is the best I've seen on any device.
- build quality. Better than any android device and at least as good as the ipad.
- expandable memory.
- haptic feedback. I love to use this while typing. It amazes me that apple, amazon and Asus do not include this on their devices and nobody complains.
The primary advantages for apple in my eyes include :
- great app eco system and developer support.
- warranty and service are Lexus like... at least in my experience.
So I'm keeping my gtab 7.7. This replaces my old school gtab 7 that I've had for two years.
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besides the app ecosystem, the tab 7.7 wins on everything to me.
to get an equivalent cellular model, with 64gb space (to compensate for no microsd slot) you'd be paying 600 bucks for the mini.
the tab 7.7 is a year old as well and it still kicks the llama's ass. samsung nailed it, was ahead of the game, but somehow didn't know how to market the best tab in this size range.
i really wish that android apps would catch up on the tablet-optimized space. the apps taht are tablet optimized are a much better experience than blown up phone app interfaces.
i personally wish google would put some android specifications that all manufacturers have to follow. enough so it is easier to develop for without affecting the different choices we can get.
idiotekniQues said:
besides the app ecosystem, the tab 7.7 wins on everything to me.
to get an equivalent cellular model, with 64gb space (to compensate for no microsd slot) you'd be paying 600 bucks for the mini.
the tab 7.7 is a year old as well and it still kicks the llama's ass. samsung nailed it, was ahead of the game, but somehow didn't know how to market the best tab in this size range.
i really wish that android apps would catch up on the tablet-optimized space. the apps taht are tablet optimized are a much better experience than blown up phone app interfaces.
i personally wish google would put some android specifications that all manufacturers have to follow. enough so it is easier to develop for without affecting the different choices we can get.
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That's why he have Paranoid Android - to change per app DPI.
I just installed Paranoid Android v2.5. It's a very good ROM. You can change the looks from tablet mode to phone mode, or hybrid mode - phanblet mode.
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That's why he have Paranoid Android - to change per app DPI.
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What do you think it's the best?
Ouya specs:
- OS: Android 4.1 Jelly Bean
- System-on-chip: Nvidia Tegra 3 (T33) SoC
- CPU: 1.7 GHz Quad-Core ARM Cortex-A9
- Storage: 8 GB internal flash memory
- Memory: 1 GB RAM
- Display: HDMI (1080p, 1080i, 720p)
- Graphics: Nvidia ULP GeForce
- Input: USB 2.0, Micro USB (for connection to PC)
- Controller input: Wireless controller
- Connectivity: Wi-Fi 802.11 b/g/n, Bluetooth LE 4.0, Ethernet port
- Dimensions: 75 mm (2.95 inch) cube
nVidia Shield specs:
- OS: Android 4.2.1 (Jelly Bean)
- System-on-chip: NVIDIA Tegra 4
- CPU: Quad-Core ARM Cortex A15 CPU
- Storage: MicroSD
- Display: 5-inch, 720p @ 294ppi, multi-touch touchscreen
- Graphics: Custom 72-core NVIDIA GeForce® GPU
- Sound: Custom, bass-reflex, tuned port audio system delivers fidelity and custom range
- Controller input: D-pad, 2 × Analog Sticks, L/R bumper and trigger buttons, X, Y, A, B buttons, NVIDIA Button, Volume buttons, Back button, Touchpad, Touchscreen
- Connectivity: IEEE 802.11n-2009 2 x 2 Wi-Fi, 3.5 mm headphone jack, Mini HDMI output, Micro USB
- Online services: NVIDIA TegraZone, Google Play, Steam
Game Stick Specs:
The development team has also delivered the official specifications for the new console, which will include: an Amlogic 8726-MX processor, 1 GB of DDR3 RAM memory and 8 GB of Flash storage, a Wi-Fi chip that enables 802.11 b/g/n, Bluetooth.
The controller, which is custom designed by the GameStick team, and gamers will also be able to connect a mouse and a keyboard to the new console.
The Jelly Bean version of Android will be supported at launch.
(More specs will be released.)
Kind of not apples to apples, as noted in other threads. Different market models:
Gametick = Non profit hardware driven by an exclusive-only app store revenue model. The weakness is the app storage, since not enough for a gaming device.
Ouya = Exact same points as Gamestick. Well, that and controllers.
Shield = Hardware profit model with some exclusive market content (though full Play support as well). Alternative goal is to get people to also buy Nvidia carded computers via the PC gaming.
From a hardware standpoint, the Gamestick is the weakest and Shield the obvious strongest.
The big weakness is again the small app storage space in the the Gamestick and Ouya, which depend on mainly gaming purchases to make money. Seems short sighted. The Shield will apparently have 32GB flash storage, but not for sure on this.
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BTW, for folks only looking at device cost, that is just the tip of the cost iceberg: Dev/design costs, shipping costs, rent, employee staff, insurance, legal, marketing, tax etc.
I am going to get GAmestick and Ouya, when its available.
I will post soon. I hope.
I think specs are nice and all but it's pricing point that's really going to determine the android console winner (or leader, or whatever you wanna call this group in the niche android console market). The only thing I wish OUYA did is update the hardware to take advantage of the upcoming Tegra4 chip and the games that will follow. When OUYA was first announced, it seemed awesome because spec wise, it was comparable to the tech that was around, but now 1 year later and right before launch, the specs are already going to be outdated... =(
It' really not outdated. You can't get anything with a tegra 4 yet anyway. And ouya kinda had their prerelease in december for devs. To switch processors now would render that move pointless. For them to put a tegra 4 in ouya, it wouldn't be released till christmas.
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Galaxy Note 5 release date
United States- August 21
*T-Mobile tweeted
We’re opening up Note 5 starting Tuesday 08//18/2015 6am PT – no pre-order needed. AND we’re going to start shipping ASAP!
The United Kingdom has no official release date for the Note 5; Samsung has said due to “marketing reasons”. They will have to make do with the Galaxy S6 Edge+ instead, which features similar specs as the Note 5.
Here’s a rundown of the specs:
Display: 5.7-inch Quad HD Super AMOLED screen with 2560 x 1440 pixel resolution.
Cameras: 16-megapixel camera on the back
5-megapixel front-facing camera.
Operating System: Android 5.1 Lollipop runs on the Note 5.
Processor: Exynos 7420 64-bit processor, with 4GB of RAM
Storage: Samsung offers both 32GB and 64GB variants of the Note 5. (128 GB rumored )
Charging: The Note 5 packs a 3,000mAh battery that works with fast wireless charging technology. unfortunately like the galaxy S6 battery can not simply be removed.
Note 5 Bench marks compared to note 4
Sunspider 0.9.1
- Note 4 - 1302.2
- Note 5 - 671.0
Sunspider 1.0.2
- Note 4 - 1321.0
- Note 5 - 719.0
SunSpider, a JavaScript benchmark. This benchmark tests the core JavaScript language only. It is designed to compare different versions of the same browser, and different browsers to each other
Browsermark 2.1
- Note 4 - 1460
- Note 5 - 1895
Browsermark 2.1 world-famous browser benchmark that test the following
How well browser will re-size screen
How fast browser loads pages and send requests
Does browser support modern web site development techniques
Google Octane 2.0
- Note 4 - 5375
- Note 5 - 7902
JavaScript benchmark that evolves with the Web. Octane 2.0 is a modern benchmark that measures a JavaScript engine's performance by running a suite of tests representative of today's complex and demanding web applications
Geekbench 3 (SC / MC)
- Note 4 - 1090 / 3398
- Note 5 - 1486 / 4660
Geekbench 3 is Primate Labs' cross-platform processor benchmark, with a new scoring system that separates single-core and multi-core performance, and new workloads that simulate real-world scenarios. Geekbench 3 makes it easier than ever to find out if your computer is up to speed.
GFX Bench 3.0 - (C24Z16 T-Rex Off / On)
- Note 4 - 2197f 39fps / 1502f 27fps
- Note 5 - 3007f 54fps / 2025f 36fps
is the first comprehensive cross-platform OpenGL ES 3 benchmark designed for measuring graphics performance, render quality and power consumption in a single, easy-to-use application.
AnTuTu HTML 5
- Note 4 - 18,910
- Note 5 - 25,112
AnTuTu Video Test
- Note 4 - 1012
- Note 5 - 1001
is one of the most popular benchmark apps for Android devices. It tests many parts of your device and assigns an overall score.
Super Pi 4M digits
- Note 4 - 78.063 secs
- Note 5 - 49.264 secs
Super PI is a single threaded benchmark that calculates pi to a specific number of digits.
Cost
Verizon
$29 per month for 24 months 32 GB = $696
$33 per month for 24 months 64GB = $792
T-Mobile
$32.50 per month for 24 months = $780
One free year of Netflix: If you preregister for the phone on T-Mobile’s site before 11:59 p.m. PST on August 20, you’ll get an entire year of Netflix for free. Those who already have Netflix will get a $107.88 credit ($8.99 x 12 months) on their existing account.
Sprint
Will sell the phone four different ways;
With its Lease program
$25 per month for the 32GB model
$30 per month for the 64GB option
Easy Pay Option
$0 down and either $30 or $34 monthly for the 32GB & 64GB
With a new two-year service agreement, the 32GB model is $249.99 and the 64GB is $349.99.
Without contract
$720 (32GB)
$816 (64GB)
AT&T
32 GB Galaxy Note 5
$24.67 per month for 30 months = $740.10
$30.84 for 24 months = $740.16
$37 for 20 months = $740
64-GB option
$28 per month for 30 months =$840
$35 per month for 24 months =$840
$42 per month for 20 months =$840
( I don't understand why they have so many different options that are virtually the same)
Hello,
I'm looking for a gaming laptop. Since I always had a stationary PC before and had no experience with laptops, I wanted to get some advice from you.
Right now I'm playing CS:GO, Apex Legends and Cod Modern Warfare.
Conditions:
- large display 17 "
- Windows 10 should be included as the operating system
- I would prefer a backlit keyboard
- As described above, it should be suitable for gaming
I am ready to spend up to around $1500.
You have some HP models right now and 1500 USD will get you at best RTX2070 and 10875H on HP. I compared here some great models {Mod edit: Commercial link removed}
I recently purchased a Dell XPS 17, and I've been loving it so far. The keyboard is perfect for long typing sessions, and compared with dedicated gaming laptops, I thoroughly enjoy using the keyboard for playing games (so far I've been playing a lot of CS: GO and Resident Evil Village). But the XPS is a little out of your budget because it's starting at $1,749.99
hallil said:
Hello,
I'm looking for a gaming laptop. Since I always had a stationary PC before and had no experience with laptops, I wanted to get some advice from you.
Right now I'm playing CS:GO, Apex Legends and Cod Modern Warfare.
Conditions:
- large display 17 "
- Windows 10 should be included as the operating system
- I would prefer a backlit keyboard
- As described above, it should be suitable for gaming
I am ready to spend up to around $1500.
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I have no experience.
hallil said:
Hello,
I'm looking for a gaming laptop. Since I always had a stationary PC before and had no experience with laptops, I wanted to get some advice from you.
Right now I'm playing CS:GO, Apex Legends and Cod Modern Warfare.
Conditions:
- large display 17 "
- Windows 10 should be included as the operating system
- I would prefer a backlit keyboard
- As described above, it should be suitable for gaming
I am ready to spend up to around $1500.
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For $1500 it can be hard to find a quality laptop with a decent amount of power, but I would suggest looking at Clevo, Sager, or one of the resellers like iBuyPower. Most of these will be fairly modular to make upgrades easier, although quality is questionable and support is nonexistent. Pretty much everything on the market is going to have Windows 11. With Thunderbolt 4, there's the potential for using an external desktop GPU, but I'm going to assume you want an integrated discrete GPU.
Here's an option, OS is extra but you get a RTX 3050 paired with a Ryzen 5 5600H, 16GB 3200, and a 512GB SSD.
Here is another, comes with Windows 11 Home, RTX 3050 Ti, i7 11800H, 16GB 3200, 512GB SSD.
Yet another.
So around $1300, it looks like you'll be looking at a RTX 3050, a mid-upper range CPU, 16GB RAM (which is plenty IMO), and a 512GB SSD. Most of these won't offer a GPU upgrade, but they should use MXM cards which are pretty easy to upgrade. You might be able to get deals on m.2 SSDs and 2.5" HDDs on Amazon.
9 years ago, $1500 got me an Alienware 17: i7 4700MQ, GTX 770M, 16GB 1200, 240GB SATA3 HDD, and Windows Vista. I upgraded to twin 1TB HDDs a few years ago, and am about to upgrade to a 980m and a 512GB SSD this weekend.
If you don't absolutely need a laptop, you can build a decent PC for under $1000 with similar specs to the laptops.
hallil said:
Hello,
I'm looking for a gaming laptop. Since I always had a stationary PC before and had no experience with laptops, I wanted to get some advice from you.
Right now I'm playing CS:GO, Apex Legends and Cod Modern Warfare.
Conditions:
- large display 17 "
- Windows 10 should be included as the operating system
- I would prefer a backlit keyboard
- As described above, it should be suitable for gaming
I am ready to spend up to around $1500.
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You can get a base model Alienware Aurora R13 desktop pc with midrange specs for $1500
Intel i9-9820X Skylake-X @ 3.30GHz overclocked at 4.5GHz
EVGA CLC
EVGA X299 FTW K
16GB DDR4 3000
EVGA Geforce RTX 2060 Super
Samsung 980 Pro 1 TB
PC Power & Cooling Firestorm 1050W
Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi
Samsung Odyssey 49" monitor.
Took 2 years to build. Bought more than half the parts off Amazon through their Warehouse Deals (including the monitor).
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