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A buddy's girlfriend just picked this phone up and she had me check it out and show her the ropes (I own an Epic 4g and came from a Hero) and I just couldn't get over how incredibly slow it was. It installed and opened apps slowly, it changed screens slowly, I honestly thought it was a 500Mhz phone until I looked it up. Now, I know these custom UI skins have a tendency to drag down performance, but my Hero never ran like this and neither does the Evo which is a similarly spec'd phone with the "same" software. Its so bad at this point even she's fed up with it and the only Android phone she's had before is the Vortex which is a 600Mhz device.
Now, I know that this phone is capable of more given its hardware and I'm going to get right to hacking it up for her and getting CM6 or 7 (nice btw, I wish we had CM7 going on the Epic) but is the stock software it comes with supposed to be this bad or is this an atypical experience that if I were to do a factory restore (via RUU or w/e file type they chose to load software with) would fix it?
Definitely unusual, my gf has a stock that she abuses, installing everything she finds and never uninstalling or rebooting and her phone still runs smooth. Might happen to have an app misbehaving...
Thanks, I've worked many an HTC phone and hers is a disaster. I can't imagine what app could have been misbehaving, but I assume it'll stop once I wipe everything and load some vanilla Android goodness. I'll admit, I'm more excited to mess around with CM7 than I am to root around in her stock phone to find whatever's causing the problem.
I'm still running stock on my MT4G, and it's quick as can be. Been using it a month or so and virtually no lag.
My stock mt4g wasn't slow either. But definitely root it. Much faster
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My stock mt4g wasn't slow either. But definitely root it. Much faster
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Lol, yeah I'm sure performance would be even better after rooting and optimizing, but I'm not there yet. I had my MT3G for like 6 months before I got bored and decided to root, after which I tried about 20 different roms. I'm sure I'll follow a similar pattern with this phone - in a few months I'll get bored and root to start switching things up. But still enjoying the stock experience as it offers everything I had to root the MT3G for. Plus rooting after running stock for a while will really make it feel like getting a new phone without actually having to buy one
I just bought one as well on the 12th of Feb and it's VERY slow. Annoying. I DID run a Quadrant standard test on it and it scored about 1660 which is nice. No matter how many factory resets I do, it doesn't change the crappy smothered OS.
My stock EVO was very fast. Other MT4G's I've worked with are able to be rooted and are very snappy STOCK. This one is slow and giving me a headache.
I am unable to root it with any method available. I can't find Visionary 11, which supposedly is the problem...
I'm waiting for another method to come out. I've tried about 4 different methods...
Install iced glacier rom on it and maybe faux's kernel and you're done. It should be smooth as butter. I don't know how tthat stock is slow but I've played with a buddies stock phone and its still quick. No lag. Definitely a app misbehaving
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If wiping does not fix it, then I would say there is a hardware issue. It should not be slow at all.
Yeah. Took me about a week before I decided lol.
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RootaToota said:
I just bought one as well on the 12th of Feb and it's VERY slow. Annoying. I DID run a Quadrant standard test on it and it scored about 1660 which is nice. No matter how many factory resets I do, it doesn't change the crappy smothered OS.
My stock EVO was very fast. Other MT4G's I've worked with are able to be rooted and are very snappy STOCK. This one is slow and giving me a headache.
I am unable to root it with any method available. I can't find Visionary 11, which supposedly is the problem...
I'm waiting for another method to come out. I've tried about 4 different methods...
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It seems like a factory reset wouldn't fix any core issue, since there isn't an image kept on the phone's memory. It just wipes all of your user data and returns the phone to an original state, but if the original state is in some way corrupted you would have to flash a known good image of the stock ROM to correct any problems. You can find good post-OTA PD15IMG.zip files on these forums.
Misbehaving apps or hardware problems are not the only reason for slow down.
If you have your phone syncing a ton (facebook, twitter, Qik, weather, stocks) it will appear slow as it becomes sluggish during the sync process.
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Misbehaving apps or hardware problems are not the only reason for slow down.
If you have your phone syncing a ton (facebook, twitter, Qik, weather, stocks) it will appear slow as it becomes sluggish during the sync process.
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You should be able to run 7 screen full of active push widgets and full syncs without the type of lag he is describing.
He said he thought it was a 550MHz phone until he looked up the specs. There's got to be some rogue program controlling things. Check out the running apps / services and also check the battery usage.
Finally, if a wipe doesn't fix it, send 'er back!
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I just bought one as well on the 12th of Feb and it's VERY slow. Annoying. I DID run a Quadrant standard test on it and it scored about 1660 which is nice. No matter how many factory resets I do, it doesn't change the crappy smothered OS.
My stock EVO was very fast. Other MT4G's I've worked with are able to be rooted and are very snappy STOCK. This one is slow and giving me a headache.
I am unable to root it with any method available. I can't find Visionary 11, which supposedly is the problem...
I'm waiting for another method to come out. I've tried about 4 different methods...
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Here is Visionary R11
today my phone decides to start running like **** on CM7 nightly 6. launcher pro kept on FC'ing constantly.
i downloaded and installed ADW to see if LP was the issue but same problem. downloaded CM7 nightly 19 and same issues, using a stock GB launcher, still getting FC's.
benchmarks on my device running on CM7 nightly 6 were usually around 2000-2500.
now im not seeing more than 1500 on a benchmark, even with overclocked at 1.5ghz, before i would see 2000+ on 1.2ghz.
i did a full wipe before installing nightly 19, cleared dalvik, etc. but it was running poorly before i upgraded it.
i was using the AUS radio prior, no problems other than wifi dropping, now im using a tmous radio and still running poorly, so its something not working properly that i can put my finger on it.
any ideas? today it was just randomly running like **** after pulling off the charger for no reason, no changes, etc.
ok, i installed CM7 RC2 and its running smoothly, using LPpro. i ran benchmark and it was about 2250 and its running smoothly and not jerky.
i wonder if my setcpu profiles were messing things up? im gonna install nightly 19 again and see how that goes.
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ok, i installed CM7 RC2 and its running smoothly, using LPpro. i ran benchmark and it was about 2250 and its running smoothly and not jerky.
i wonder if my setcpu profiles were messing things up? im gonna install nightly 19 again and see how that goes.
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SetCPU could do that. Especially if you had any profiles with a governor of "powersave". This seems to lag me like no other, especially with lots of widgets etc. on home screen.
Maybe you had a bad widget or app running that was causing force closes/lagginess?
Not sure. No new widgets. I did have a powersave profile running but it was for when the battery was low.
I'm on nightly 19 and all is good. Back to normal I did not use titanium to restore all my apps and settings I started fresh
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Whenever I run into random problems like this what I normally do is first try reflashing the same ROM. Keeps your data intact and fixes any errors in the ROM itself... That's assuming the problem isn't in the user data itself Then it's best to wipe and start fresh
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Whenever I run into random problems like this what I normally do is first try reflashing the same ROM. Keeps your data intact and fixes any errors in the ROM itself... That's assuming the problem isn't in the user data itself Then it's best to wipe and start fresh
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I did start fresh full wipe etc. It worked ok yesterday eve when i was reinatalling everything but today its not very good again. Its choppy and im getting a lot of fc on homescreen launcher. Adw and lp acting exactly the same.
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I did start fresh full wipe etc. It worked ok yesterday eve when i was reinatalling everything but today its not very good again. Its choppy and im getting a lot of fc on homescreen launcher. Adw and lp acting exactly the same.
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How's you processor utilization? You might install SeePU or something to monitor how much it's being taxed. I notice sometimes that mine will do that and it's usually 3D Gallery, browser, or some other app using the cpu resources way too much.
I did start fresh full wipe etc. It worked ok yesterday eve when i was reinatalling everything but today its not very good again. Its choppy and im getting a lot of fc on homescreen launcher. Adw and lp acting exactly the same.
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How's you processor utilization? You might install SeePU or something to monitor how much it's being taxed. I notice sometimes that mine will do that and it's usually 3D Gallery, browser, or some other app using the cpu resources way too much.
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Good to know. Its been running ok now since I reinstalled the nightly over the existing nightly. I don't use 3d gallery I ****ing hate it its the most irritating and jumpy program.
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There is a place in the forums where you can download the stock 2.3 launcher instead of using adw.
I've had my tab for almost a year and I always have the same issue with every single ROM. When I flash a ROM everything works great for a few hours but by the end of the day it gets soooo slow. It gets so slow web browsing is next to impossible. Scrolling web pages becomes painfully slow and even the most basic functions such as screen unlock and other basic UI slowdowns are driving me nuts. If I use recovery to wipe the cache & Dalvik cache things speed up quite a bit, while a factory reset or re-flash bring it back to where it should be for a few hours. Regardless, it always ends up slowing back down. I've used everything from Stock HC and stock ICS, Task650 ICS and HC, to CM9 and CM10 (to include AOKP and other CM based builds) and a few others with CPU speeds everywhere from stock to 1.4GHZ. I've also tried every kernel I've found to no avail. It runs great right after a flash which is why I find it hard to believe that my issue is simply "the Tegra 2 just sucks". Anyone else have similar issues or any insight?
Never man. I've had my tablet about the same amount of time. I've flashed a bunch and it's been great. I'm on Infamous2 with A1 1.6.4 and it flies. It almost does sound like something hardware related.
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Never man. I've had my tablet about the same amount of time. I've flashed a bunch and it's been great. I'm on Infamous2 with A1 1.6.4 and it flies. It almost does sound like something hardware related.
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Yeah it's Bizarre. Never had any issue like this on my Vibrant or my new SGS3 but this thing has done this since day one. At first I thought it was the stock ROM and then when I flashed the super Alpha CM9 and it was fast for a few hours I thought It would improve as CM became nightlies.
I only ever had this problem on hc 3.1. Ever since 3.2 no more lagging or slow down. Even better with ics as well. Not really sure why yours is doing that.
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There was no opened thread for stable release of CM 10.1, so i opened it. I haven't installed it yet, is there any major bugs? Has RAM management got any better since RC2?
Yes stable version CM10.1.2 is very good try it out!
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It's very good, i'm testing it right now, very fluid, nice faster animations. I really like new polished CM apps, like Apollo and Trebuchet. cLock and cLock widget are also awesome.
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It's very good, i'm testing it right now, very fluid, nice faster animations. I really like new polished CM apps, like Apollo and Trebuchet. cLock and cLock widget are also awesome.
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Default CM kernel?
Ted Mosby said:
It's very good, i'm testing it right now, very fluid, nice faster animations. I really like new polished CM apps, like Apollo and Trebuchet. cLock and cLock widget are also awesome.
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flash latest devil kernel and u will know what fast is
Yes, default kernel. I am going to try Devil kernel, I have heard numerous recommendations for it. Also I am running this ROM with Greenify like CM10.
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Ted Mosby said:
Yes, default kernel. I am going to try Devil kernel, I have heard numerous recommendations for it. Also I am running this ROM with Greenify like CM10.
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you can also try marmite for it but if can compromise a bit of battery for awesome performance u can use devil kernel if no then marmite is a good balance between battery and performance
nexususer said:
you can also try marmite for it but if can compromise a bit of battery for awesome performance u can use devil kernel if no then marmite is a good balance between battery and performance
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I'm reaching 72 hours uptime mark and RAM manager has started to act up. I occasionally feel lag and unresponsiveness when switching apps. Battery time is very good, 2 hours and 45 minutes of Display time, mostly browsing on low signal 3G (l'm on vacation), That's around what I'm getting on CM10 so it's pretty good for me.
I wish I have stronger Nexus device to run this ROM to it's full potential
Its the best rom ever for the nexus S, for the first time ever I have been able to populate my homescreens with lots and lots of widgets and yet it doesnt lag at all with scrolling. And the atrocious ram usage of the RC roms has been fixed with the stable, I can keep my phone running for a few days without any serious issues. This really gives almost new life to the nexus S just make sure you are using greenify.
Has anyone else not been able to get some apps to connect via 3G with this rom? They all seem to work fine on Wi-Fi, it's just with 3G that I'm having problems.
I experience crashes when playing videos using software decoding in MX player. The nightlies also have this problem.
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you can also try marmite for it but if can compromise a bit of battery for awesome performance u can use devil kernel if no then marmite is a good balance between battery and performance
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One question, if i flash another custom kernel on cm 10.1, will i lose any of my data?
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One question, if i flash another custom kernel on cm 10.1, will i lose any of my data?
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no .. but remember to clear dalvik cache before flashing
The stable ROM has exactly the same problems as the previous nightlies (I've installed with full format of cache, data, system, dalvik, whatever):
- after few days it becomes laggish
- unreliable, happends to reboot itself. You can't even get to unlock screen sometimes; it happends even if somebody is calling you and you can't get to answer the phone
- do not use Chrome Browser otherwise it gets even worse
- if you use Swype keyboard the overall performance seems to be worse. With standard Keyboard it gets a little snappier but nothing that could be catalogued as "fine"
- people says it's cool because they keep the rom 1/2 days and then install nightlies or other stuff: when it's fresh from reboot it work fine, lots of free ram
- have more free ram by using Greenify but still the problems don't go away. It's overall heavier than a 4.1.2 (Which for some good reason Google made it as latest release for Nexus S)
- I've tried SlimBean with Thalamus Kernel and it's a little better for some stuff but basically the problems are much similar
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The stable ROM has exactly the same problems as the previous nightlies (I've installed with full format of cache, data, system, dalvik, whatever):
- after few days it becomes laggish
- unreliable, happends to reboot itself. You can't even get to unlock screen sometimes; it happends even if somebody is calling you and you can't get to answer the phone
- do not use Chrome Browser otherwise it gets even worse
- if you use Swype keyboard the overall performance seems to be worse. With standard Keyboard it gets a little snappier but nothing that could be catalogued as "fine"
- people says it's cool because they keep the rom 1/2 days and then install nightlies or other stuff: when it's fresh from reboot it work fine, lots of free ram
- have more free ram by using Greenify but still the problems don't go away. It's overall heavier than a 4.1.2 (Which for some good reason Google made it as latest release for Nexus S)
- I've tried SlimBean with Thalamus Kernel and it's a little better for some stuff but basically the problems are much similar
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What is the problem in giving it a reboot every few days? Nexus S has ALWAYS gotten slower even from the gingerbread days if you didnt reboot in ages.
I honestly think you should do a proper clean install because I really dont have that many problems as you say. 4.2.2 is the smoothest the nexus S has ever been, I am even running next launcher very smoothly and redraws are minimum. On 4.1.2 homescreen navigation was quite jittery with widgets and wallpaper scrolling, on 4.2.2 it literally fly's. That alone is enough reason for me to live with the slightly more ram usage.
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What is the problem in giving it a reboot every few days? Nexus S has ALWAYS gotten slower even from the gingerbread days if you didnt reboot in ages.
I honestly think you should do a proper clean install because I really dont have that many problems as you say. 4.2.2 is the smoothest the nexus S has ever been, I am even running next launcher very smoothly and redraws are minimum. On 4.1.2 homescreen navigation was quite jittery with widgets and wallpaper scrolling, on 4.2.2 it literally fly's. That alone is enough reason for me to live with the slightly more ram usage.
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Never had these problems with earlier Android. The reboot proves what I'm saying: he can't be reliable for long run since its performances degrade automatically.
If you read what I wrote I said I made a full clean install: wiped data, factory, dalvik, formatted data, formatted system.
Everything running great only problem is the GPS bug with Google Maps after exiting the app & turning off GPS for some reason GPS won't turn off only a reboot fixes it but other than that 10.1.2 stable is really great
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running it has been really reliable but I do have ram issues even while using greenify... CPU on conservative mode too
is everybody's lock widgets OK? I seem to get a lot of wonkyness with pocketcasts,etc...
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GODvilla said:
Who can giv me a working CWM recovery.img i tried several but not wrking.
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Here you are http://www.mediafire.com/?z9ch7hna57pm5ak
i have it in htc explorer and i cant install play store..besides that it is very good
Hey,
I got my N10 about 1 Month ago and it ran really fast and smooth in the beginning but when time went by it got slower and laggy. So i rooted it and installed CM11. There I had lag in the launcher, so i couldnt even scroll smoothly through the app drawer. I had the same problems with ThunderKat, AOKP ... The only time it runs without lag is, when i flash an original factory image. Then it runs smooth for like 2 days and it begins to become slow again.
It really pisses me of, that my N10 only runs fast when I have stock unrooted KitKat installed.. I thought its Hardware is more than capable of making the Device run smooth.
Has anyone an advice for me, how I can make it smooth again? Or which Custom Rom runs lag free for them, because I prefer Custom Roms over Googles Stock rom.
Sorry for my bad english and thanks for all answers.
Regards
I try not to make it my business to suggest which ROM is better for reason x or reason y so I won't, but I will say that you should not be having lag issues on most ROMs, even stock as this device can handle a lot.
That being said the issue more than likely lies in some bad apps you have installed, this or some mods that have been made that are working against you.
My n10 is actually my wife's so I don't mess with it much, but I will say there rarely is lag if ever on it. Currently I have her running the latest slimbean for the past few months and I'm sure eventually I'll put KitKat on there for her but she is more than happy with the performance as of right now.
So start by looking into apps that may be causing lag as with the limited info here I assume this is your issue
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I get lag using Nova Launcher these days, it seems to have happened with recent updates. I have tried lots of different ROMs and kernels it persists across them all. Even the new GE Launcher seems slow.
When using apps I don't notice any lag. It is just a launcher thing for me.
Same here but I also see some lag in scrolling in apps like xda and Facebook. But that's normal. It still works great for games and apps though my brother completely destroyed my battery. I can only get like 5 hours now and the standby used to drain 1-2 percent a day now drains that much in an hour. Sorry went a little off topic there in the ned
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Hi,
When my tablet started feeling really laggy I fully formatted it, installed stock KitKat, and then installed CM11 with the KK GAPPS, so far it's quite fast and performs really well. You may want to search for then"perfect ROM" for you, I can only tell you that I'm using CM11 and having a good time with it. Also using NOVA Launcher instead of stock, the launched that came with it indeed lagged a lot.
~Lord
"Time is too short to cry, long enough to try." - March of Time (Helloween)
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I would sugest you to wipe everything including the system partition then install a light and smooth rom such slim Kat and then some kernel. I use kt manta with a good tweak and finally activate trim
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I have had good luck with the Franco kernel and CM11. The device runs very smooth and battery life has been outstanding. Just installed the GEL and have no lag issues. It is no nexus 5 but it's acceptable.
Okay, thx for all the answers. I'll try it out!