So after a year of owning a Nexus 7, I have finally decided to root it, however, I have a few questions.
1. I have not updated to KitKat yet. Should I update to KitKat first before or after?
2. What is best to use to backup my data? Will it back up everything including apps, files, settings?
3. Do I need anything or do I need to do anything to prepare for root?
Also, I noticed the Wug Toolkit. Will that do everything for me in just 3 - 4 clicks?
Thank you for your time.
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bscit said:
So after a year of owning a Nexus 7, I have finally decided to root it, however, I have a few questions.
1. I have not updated to KitKat yet. Should I update to KitKat first before or after?
2. What is best to use to backup my data? Will it back up everything including apps, files, settings?
3. Do I need anything or do I need to do anything to prepare for root?
Also, I noticed the Wug Toolkit. Will that do everything for me in just 3 - 4 clicks?
Thank you for your time.
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I suggest you update to kitkat first before rooting. For backups, use Carbon as it does not require root. You can use wugs toolkit as it is updated to root the device with the latest supersu. You can also use the toolkit to flash kitkat with just a few clicks.
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Noob for tablets. Got the nexus 10 for the family for christmas. Want to get it all setup before I turn it over to the wolves.
I love using TBpro on my Droid Bionic. I thought it would be good to have a solid backup program on the tablet, and since I have it on my smartphone I thought I would hang with what I've sorta know already.
Dont really understand what unlocked/locked means for a bootloader, and why the N10 needs that why many smartphone can be rooted without being unlocked.
I would love to hear some views on the purposes of apps like ClockWorkMod and TWRP and what they do and provide. Seems like they do perform backups and more. Why TBpro is likely just a backup app. What functions do these recovery apps have the make them "must have".
thanks for the time answering the tablet noob
TBPro requires Root access and to acquire root access you have to be able to modify the operating system. You can't do that until the bootloader is unlocked. Once unlocked, you then need to flash Custom Recovery (either CMW or TWRP) in order to to flash/install the the files required to install the root binaries. Other uses of recovery include making NAND/System Backups and installing custom roms. They are essential if you are into modding your device. I have an LG G2x that is rooted and has a custom rom (CM7.2) and a Custom Kernel (Faux123 v54), as well as Beats Audio for Gingerbread. I installed all of those via ClockworkMod. I followed ZedoMax's instructions to root my Nexus 10 and had only the initial bootloop issue after unlocking the bootloader. That was easy to fix but I couldn't get ClockWorkMod to stay installed so I flashed TWRP instead. Works great. Just follow this thread and watch the vids. Hope I helped some.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1997227
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TBPro requires Root access and to acquire root access you have to be able to modify the operating system. You can't do that until the bootloader is unlocked. Once unlocked, you then need to flash Custom Recovery (either CMW or TWRP) in order to to flash/install the the files required to install the root binaries. Other uses of recovery include making NAND/System Backups and installing custom roms. They are essential if you are into modding your device. I have an LG G2x that is rooted and has a custom rom (CM7.2) and a Custom Kernel (Faux123 v54), as well as Beats Audio for Gingerbread. I installed all of those via ClockworkMod. I followed ZedoMax's instructions to root my Nexus 10 and had only the initial bootloop issue after unlocking the bootloader. That was easy to fix but I couldn't get ClockWorkMod to stay installed so I flashed TWRP instead. Works great. Just follow this thread and watch the vids. Hope I helped some.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1997227
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Thanks!
After unlocking, and using CMW or TWRP. I can then "root" my device. ok. After rooting, I can use TBpro.
At this point, do I need to remain "unlocked" Does it matter? For the N10 will I receive OTA after being unlocked/rooted,
or do I need to be in another state?
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Thanks!
After unlocking, and using CMW or TWRP. I can then "root" my device. ok. After rooting, I can use TBpro.
At this point, do I need to remain "unlocked" Does it matter? For the N10 will I receive OTA after being unlocked/rooted,
or do I need to be in another state?
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Yes to all. Another option for you if you are not comfortable typing in the various commands is to use the Wufresh method. Watch the video by qbking777 here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2015467
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Yes to all. Another option for you if you are not comfortable typing in the various commands is to use the Wufresh method. Watch the video by qbking777 here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2015467
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Thanks again. I did stumble across that site and was trying to compare that to the mskip Nexus root tool kit. That was had so many options and I didnt (yet) find the cliff note's version on what they all do and why you'd need to.
The GUI for Wufresh is simple. Do you use it? I read a little about the root and the root+custom recovery choices. Not entirely clear which is preferred, at least for me needs. And I've not got a warm fuzzy feeling about what state the N10 should be in, such that OTA updates still happen. Can they happen when unlocked+rooted+custom recovery but still stock ROM (without system mods)
The wugfresh version automates what the zedomax version does by hand. I did mine via the zedomax way.
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Thanks again. I did stumble across that site and was trying to compare that to the mskip Nexus root tool kit. That was had so many options and I didnt (yet) find the cliff note's version on what they all do and why you'd need to.
The GUI for Wufresh is simple. Do you use it? I read a little about the root and the root+custom recovery choices. Not entirely clear which is preferred, at least for me needs. And I've not got a warm fuzzy feeling about what state the N10 should be in, such that OTA updates still happen. Can they happen when unlocked+rooted+custom recovery but still stock ROM (without system mods)
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I would suggest using the Wugfresh method, definitely the simplest to use. And a great recovery is TWRP, it is very clear and easy to understand what it is that each menu contains.
Also with the OTA updates, it really depends on the size and type of update. If it is a fairly major one, like JB 4.1 to JB 4.2 then you will have to use the option in Wugfresh toolkit to 'unroot', then update. After the update you can simply reuse the toolkit to root again. Sometimes if the OTA is small it will simply install over the rooted device, but I wouldn't count on it. It definitely shouldn't discourage you from rooting though, its relatively simple to fix
Hi guys,
Just installed the 4.2.2 update on my Nexus 7, but I decided I wanted to go further. I have had plenty of android devices in the past, but I was always cautious about rooting them in fear of messing up. Well, after reading up about the benefits of rooting I think it's worth a try. I have read up on the basics of what rooting is and how to do it, but there are so many roms and kernels out there I have no idea where to begin!
So I saw an article on a website I frequent that has a guide on how to root the Nexus 7 with the newest update.
http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/articles/4...7-official-android422-jdq39-jellybean-ota.htm
What do you think about using this guide?
Also some side questions:
1.) Is there a way to backup my Nexus 7's unrooted state before I begin, so if I decide to go back to unrooted I can easily do so?
2.) Should I root my Nexus 7 on the 4.2.2 ota, or downloading it here on the forums? ( I assume they are slightly different)
3.) I don't want to ask what is your favorite rom, but what would you say is the most popular one around here? My biggest needs are stability, as well as better battery and performance.
Please excuse me if my questions seem strange or obvious. I've tried reading up more on this subject but quite frankly I don't understand it. I probably will get the hang of it. I was once a beginner to PC building but eventually I made myself a monster rig and overclocked the hell out of it. But since I'm thinking of rooting tonight, I would really appreciate it if someone would be kind enough to help me out! Thanks
Apav said:
What do you think about using this guide?
Also some side questions:
1.) Is there a way to backup my Nexus 7's unrooted state before I begin, so if I decide to go back to unrooted I can easily do so?
2.) Should I root my Nexus 7 on the 4.2.2 ota, or downloading it here on the forums? ( I assume they are slightly different)
3.) I don't want to ask what is your favorite rom, but what would you say is the most popular one around here? My biggest needs are stability, as well as better battery and performance.
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The guide looks fine from what I skimmed, I would follow the toolkit found here though. It does everything for you basically.
1) Unlock your bootloader, install CWM, then nandroid backup from there. Transfer your backup to your PC.
2) No point in rooting your current rom if you are switching out.
3) I don't know which roms are the most popular but I switch between these two:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1800268
-best customizing options and on the fly phone/phablet/tablet UI changing
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2098139
-stable, smooth and fast. Performance rom here.
Now you should hold off flashing these until the devs have integrated 4.2.2 into them, shouldn't take long...they are both working on them!
coolloser said:
The guide looks fine from what I skimmed, I would follow the toolkit found here though. It does everything for you basically.
1) Unlock your bootloader, install CWM, then nandroid backup from there. Transfer your backup to your PC.
2) No point in rooting your current rom if you are switching out.
3) I don't know which roms are the most popular but I switch between these two:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1800268
-best customizing options and on the fly phone/phablet/tablet UI changing
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2098139
-stable, smooth and fast. Performance rom here.
Now you should hold off flashing these until the devs have integrated 4.2.2 into them, shouldn't take long...they are both working on them!
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Thanks! So the tutorial I linked is just to unlock the bootloader but not to install a ROM correct? Then why is SuperSU included in this guide?
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Thanks! So the tutorial I linked is just to unlock the bootloader but not to install a ROM correct? Then why is SuperSU included in this guide?
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because some people just want Root on stock?
rooting =/= rom
Thanks guys! Last question. Should I have restored my Nexus 7 to factory settings before I updated to 4.2.2, or before I root? I know with the 4.2 update a lot of people recommended doing it since it increased performance. That was a bigger update though, so probably not, but I just want to be sure before I root that it would or wouldn't make a difference.
From what I've seen the easiest way to root the Nexus is 'Nexus Root Toolkit' which does the whole job with a couple of clicks of the mouse (you run it from Windows).
(Note: at the time of writing NRT v.1.6.2 doesn't support 4.2.2 so wait a couple of days before trying it and it will be updated.)
1) Do a full backup (MyBackup Pro is excellent for unrooted devices) as the process wipes your Nexus back to factory settings.
2) Connect your Nexus to the PC and copy the backup (the 'rerware' folder) to your PC (I'd copy everything, just to be safe).
3) Install and run Nexus Root Toolkit on the PC, enter the details for 'Your model type' and run the 'Full Driver Installation'.
4) Click 'Unlock', let it do its thing, then click 'Root' and after a while you'll have a fully rooted device.
5) Install MyBackup Pro on the Nexus, copy the 'rerware' folder back to the Nexus and restore it.
It really couldn't be easier and it works a treat.
Once you're rooted you'll find Titanium Backup is a better app as it can backup more stuff but it only works on rooted devices.
Or you could spend the 15 minutes to learn the right way and you would understand the process that takes place with the click of that 'magical button'.....then you wouldnt have to wait for a toolkit to update...
KNOWLEDGE REALLY DOESNT HURT.
Hi,
Now that I finally have my Nexus 4, it is time to set it up properly and root it. I've been browsing and reading the forum thoroughly, but as I am afraid to make any mistake in the process, I need some advise to begin.
For now I want to keep it as stock as possible. Nonetheless, I need to root is and to be able to perform Nandroid backups as well. And that's why I have the following questions, which I will appreciate if you can answer them:
1) I've been searching this forum for the best way to root the phone. So far this tutorial seems to be the simplest for the job: http://www.androidrootz.com/2012/11/how-to-root-nexus-4-on-windows.html
Is there any better way to do it, or is this the best one?
2) as far as I understood, having a custom recovery (such as CWM) will prevent the automatic OTA updates from working properly. If so, how can I install a future update?
3) Is there a way to just root the phone without having a custom recovery installed? I suppose this would make it easier to receive OTA updates (although I guess that root would be lost that way)?
I appreciate any help you can provide me!
I have always found the Nexus toolkits to be very easy to use, and work very well. You can find it here - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1995688
I've never had a problem on any of my nexus devices using this method to root, restore, flash recoveries, etc.
Semantics said:
I have always found the Nexus toolkits to be very easy to use, and work very well. You can find it here - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1995688
I've never had a problem on any of my nexus devices using this method to root, restore, flash recoveries, etc.
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Thanks for the reply.
In the meantime I took the plunge and followed that tutorial that I mentioned before and everything is working ok.
I already had some experience with rooting and custom recovery with my old ZTE Blade, but I was afraid of doing something wrong with a brand new Nexus 4, which I had to wait for so long .
Hey everyone,
I put a stock image of 4.3 on my phone - T Mobile to remove root, update to 4.4.2; then realized that it's really not worth the issues I'm dealing with in customizing the phone. I really regret doing this!!! I have no idea how to roll it back because when I do so in odin 3.07 or 3.09 with UVUEMK2 I have to reflash the "stock boot img" in order to get my S4 back alive as trying to roll it back that way "FAILS" in odin and breaks the stock boot and the phone asks me to plug it in and use kies to troubleshoot; when I just flash the bootloader and it's fine again.
ULTIMATELY:
1- Can ANYONE tell me how I can roll it back to 4.3 until I JUMP to my S5 in April?
2- If not how does one go about removing - ROOT - by Chainfire or CF-AutoRoot?
=> so I can at least trade in my phone for the 5 and be done with this mess in a month.
Reason I want 4.3 is because I had much more control over the system and was able to perform tethering tasks and APN tricks that have been blocked by the Kitkat update.
Thank you to whomever has the capacity to help me I've spent all day trying to figure it out and I have a 4 page grad paper I'm postponing because I gotta figure this out first, for some apparent reason. So any help APPRECIATED!!
I may be giving you bad news but last time I checked the ota notice said you cannot roll back ... I have yet yo see anyone roll back from KitKat official on the 9500
The new boot loader is pretty persistent at rollback prevention.
Sent from my Nexus 4 using Tapatalk
How about in terms of Unrooting? CF-Autoroot has the option in SuperUser app to unroot. I'm guessing this will do the trick for when I hand the phone back over to T-Mo? Or have they added things to circumvent removing SU?
I basically don't want to do it now (Figure out how to unroot) if I don't have to quite yet.
Gillion said:
I may be giving you bad news but last time I checked the ota notice said you cannot roll back ... I have yet yo see anyone roll back from KitKat official on the 9500
The new boot loader is pretty persistent at rollback prevention.
Sent from my Nexus 4 using Tapatalk
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zz1049 said:
Hey everyone,
1- Can ANYONE tell me how I can roll it back to 4.3 until I JUMP to my S5 in April?
2- If not how does one go about removing - ROOT - by Chainfire or CF-AutoRoot?
=> so I can at least trade in my phone for the 5 and be done with this mess in a month.
Reason I want 4.3 is because I had much more control over the system and was able to perform tethering tasks and APN tricks that have been blocked by the Kitkat update.
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Once you have installed 4.4.2 with the matching boot loader, you cannot install 4.3 with Odin. However you can restore an Nandroid backup of your old 4.3 setup from recovery, so the phone will be back to how it was before the upgrade.
If you want to unroot, you can fire up SuperSU and select the "Full Unroot" option from the settings tab.
In order to restore APN settings on 4.4.2, I have always taken a backup of them on earlier versions using this great app:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.riteshsahu.APNBackupRestore
In order to make it work on 4.4.2, you move the APK from /Data/App to /System/priv-app using Root Explorer or similar, then reboot. Disable the ICS check in the settings section of APNBackupRestore, and you're good to go!
For tethering by USB, this works very well for me:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.koushikdutta.tether
Good Luck!
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Hi VogonP0et,
I have a Sprint S4. I also upgraded OTA to 4.4.2 and am regretting it. I was not rooted when upgrading. Haven't been rooted for a few months. I do not like 4.4.2 restrictive sd card. Screwed up my Doc's to Go and Sygic nav.
I do have a nandroid recovery back up from last summer. MDL i believe.
Do I understand you correctly, I can root 4.4.2 reinstall TWRP. Then do a recovery back to my earlier version. Is this correct?
Thanks in advance.
Jim
Clean install rooted 4.4.2
BrickBait said:
Hi VogonP0et,
I have a Sprint S4. I also upgraded OTA to 4.4.2 and am regretting it. I was not rooted when upgrading. Haven't been rooted for a few months. I do not like 4.4.2 restrictive sd card. Screwed up my Doc's to Go and Sygic nav.
I do have a nandroid recovery back up from last summer. MDL i believe.
Do I understand you correctly, I can root 4.4.2 reinstall TWRP. Then do a recovery back to my earlier version. Is this correct?
Thanks in advance.
Jim
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Hi Jim
You can only restore a 4.3 or 4.4.2 backup, not an earlier version.
I have an International i9505 jfltexx, although I believe the process would be the same for you. Here's what I did:
- Nandroid backup to the external SD card first job! Copy to the PC for safety.
- Power off the phone, and manually re-start in Download mode.
- Flash original factory KitKat 4.4.2 firmware of choice using Odin (I used V3.09), which will include the matching boot loader.
- Allow the phone to start up, which will take some time.
- Power off the phone, and manually re-start in Download mode.
- Use Chainfire's CF-Auto-Root to root it, using the Odin that comes in the package. Find it here (3rd post):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2219803
- phone will re-start when the process is complete
- I did a full wipe at this point, and although it's a bit of a pain to restore all your data with Titanium backup it gives a problem-free start.
- Full wipe made my Sygic work properly again!
- Before you drop in a custom recovery, it is a good idea to use Chainfire's Triangle Away to reset the flash counter. It seems that the Flash Counter needs to be zero for successful operation of Mobile Odin in future.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=eu.chainfire.triangleaway
- once you have set up your Google Play account, download SGS4Flasher here:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=nl.bvgemert.flasher
- SGS4Flasher will drop in the recovery of your choice. I use and recommend TWRP personally.
- You're good to go, and Flash Counter is still zero!
- Now you can restore an earlier Nandroid backup of a 4.3 ROM, or install a new custom 4.3 or 4.4.2 ROM
After this I installed the custom ROM of my choice, which is Echoe V16 based on 4.4.2. Echoe makes all the limitations and restrictions of 4.4.2 go away, but there must be a custom ROM suitable for you. I don't think you can use Echoe on your phone, but you may have a favourite. I have to say that doing the full wipe was an important step to make it all work well, so worth the hassle.
The only concern I have is that your backup at version at MDL may actually be Android 4.2, which I don't think you can use directly. However Titanium Backup can extract the data from a Nandroid backup to restore. I have spent quite a bit of time understanding the 4.4.2 limitations and restrictions, and found ways to make it do what I want now. Overall I'm happy, but it has taken some time to get there.
Good Luck!
Hello, fisrt I read the similars others thread and I didn't find my answer.
I have my Nexus 4 since february 2013, so I have lots of data and apps which can't be saved even with adb backup (Rovio Games, GTA 3, Jetpack, Rayman, Sonic, etc.). So I don't want to lose it. However, I need to root my N4 for titanium Games backup, Xposed Framework, busybox...
I have learnt that there is a manip to unlock bootloader without wipe BUT (it's from 2013 so) I didn't find if it still works on 4.4.2 (KOT49H) with the bootloader MAKOZ30d. Please quickly answer me.
You unlock the bootloader, put a custom recovery on, and then root. Unlocking the bootloader has nothing to do if you're rooted our not.
Unlocking the bootloader will wipe your device. no way to get around that
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Hello, fisrt I read the similars others thread and I didn't find my answer.
I have my Nexus 4 since february 2013, so I have lots of data and apps which can't be saved even with adb backup (Rovio Games, GTA 3, Jetpack, Rayman, Sonic, etc.). So I don't want to lose it. However, I need to root my N4 for titanium Games backup, Xposed Framework, busybox...
I have learnt that there is a manip to unlock bootloader without root BUT (it's from 2013 so) I didn't find if it still works on 4.4.2 (KOT49H) with the bootloader MAKOZ30d. Please quickly answer me.
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you can use android tuner to back-up apps with data and restore them later
I have edited the sentence : without root (makes nosense) --> without wipe. I said that because it exists but I don't know if it already works on 4.4.2. I will try your app ttheodotou
Bokoblin said:
I have edited the sentence : without root (makes nosense) --> without wipe. I said that because it exists but I don't know if it already works on 4.4.2. I will try your app ttheodotou
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Backup is for root user in your app.