I have a Note 3 that I bought the day they where released so obviously I don't have the latest firmware.
I have safestrap installed (rooted with delavega). I have the stock but debloated ROM in the stock slot & Beans awesome ROM running in slot 1.
I have nandroid backups of both ROMs (on my 64gig card) and I have actually done a restore of both just to make 100% sure they worked.
I should probably leave well enough alone as EVERY SINGLE THING works perfectly in my slot 1 Beans setup but I'm still kinda on the fence about flashing the new firmware (my long time Wife once commented "you break things intentionally just so you can figure out how to fix them!!").
I have never had a phone that used safestrap so this is all new to me. My questions are:
1. I have downloaded the Odin flashable tar for the new firmware. If I flash this, does it wipeout safestrap/the ROM slots etc.(like formatting a windows hard drive) so it becomes basically a new stock phone unrooted and all the internal storage blank??
2. If that is the case, can I first flash the new firmware tar, then root with kingblo, then install safestrap/recreate ROM slot 1 and then restore the nandroid of my current Beans BU and be basically right back to where I am now but with the new firmware installed??
jmorton10 said:
I have a Note 3 that I bought the day they where released so obviously I don't have the latest firmware.
I have safestrap installed (rooted with delavega). I have the stock but debloated ROM in the stock slot & Beans awesome ROM running in slot 1.
I have nandroid backups of both ROMs (on my 64gig card) and I have actually done a restore of both just to make 100% sure they worked.
I should probably leave well enough alone as EVERY SINGLE THING works perfectly in my slot 1 Beans setup but I'm still kinda on the fence about flashing the new firmware (my long time Wife once commented "you break things intentionally just so you can figure out how to fix them!!").
I have never had a phone that used safestrap so this is all new to me. My questions are:
1. I have downloaded the Odin flashable tar for the new firmware. If I flash this, does it wipeout safestrap/the ROM slots etc.(like formatting a windows hard drive) so it becomes basically a new stock phone unrooted and all the internal storage blank??
2. If that is the case, can I first flash the new firmware tar, then root with kingblo, then install safestrap/recreate ROM slot 1 and then restore the nandroid of my current Beans BU and be basically right back to where I am now but with the new firmware installed??
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I basically have the same set up as you except I’m running Hyperdrive. I just did this myself about an hour ago and didn’t lose anything. But I did and always make a backup before I do anything just in case.
1. Download Beans MJ7 Full Stock Tar: http://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=23212708291674903
2. Make sure you boot into your “stock rom” before you Odin the stock tar. Latest Odin v.3.09: http://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=23212708291676783
3. Odin the stock tar and when you’re done you’ll be un-rooted but on the MJ7.
4. Download and install the Kingo Root App to your PC and follow the instructions. LINK REMOVED BY VECTUS
5. After you re-root your phone and it reboots go back into safestrap or re-download it if it’s missing and reinstall the recovery. http://forum.xdadevelopers.com/showthread.php?t=2517610
Everything was still there for me when safestrap recovery booted up. I didn’t lose any data.
Good luck
Uhm. I don't think you're allowed to post links for Kingo.
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haza12d said:
Uhm. I don't think you're allowed to post links for Kingo.
Sent from my SM-N900V using Tapatalk
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Its not... I removed the link... :good:
Whoops you're right my mistake sorry about that.
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Is that app the only way to root the note 3 currently?
Thanks for the responses guys, it went like clockwork.
I Odin flashed the full mj7 tar that I downloaded from crack flashers (after beans like timed out on me about 25 times). Then immediately did the Kingo thing which worked super.
At that point, I installed the newest safestrap & recreated the same #1 ROM slot I had before the flash. I then restored a nandroid I had made of the Bean ROM install from that slot from before the Odin flash to that new ROM slot and it works perfectly.
I see no difference whatever except for the new firmware showing in the device properties.
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Hey guys, been looking through the forum all morning at different ROM's. I considered the KK upgrade, however can't find a working link to a DL, my telco still have not released the KK update.
I have N9005 model, on 4.3 rooted using Chainfire, have CWM. I DL a 4.3 ROM, but can't figure out how to get it on my phone from PC (I sent the zip file over, but it does not show up on CWM), I found a few KK ROMS that interest me, but can't find a working link to a DL of 4.4.2 it for me to flash. I would post in the respective thread, but I cn't post in the developer forums yet.
As I understand to do most roms on here now, I need to flash 4.4.2, Root it, install new version of CWM, then install the rom.
However if I have used CWM to do a nandroid backup, is it possible to flash it back to that, or is any chance of 4.3 gone once I flash 4.4
I know this is very noob, but we all gotta learn some day.
Any help, even a link to 4.4.2 DL would be awesome.
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Hey guys, been looking through the forum all morning at different ROM's. I considered the KK upgrade, however can't find a working link to a DL, my telco still have not released the KK update.
I have N9005 model, on 4.3 rooted using Chainfire, have CWM. I DL a 4.3 ROM, but can't figure out how to get it on my phone from PC (I sent the zip file over, but it does not show up on CWM), I found a few KK ROMS that interest me, but can't find a working link to a DL of 4.4.2 it for me to flash. I would post in the respective thread, but I cn't post in the developer forums yet.
As I understand to do most roms on here now, I need to flash 4.4.2, Root it, install new version of CWM, then install the rom.
However if I have used CWM to do a nandroid backup, is it possible to flash it back to that, or is any chance of 4.3 gone once I flash 4.4
I know this is very noob, but we all gotta learn some day.
Any help, even a link to 4.4.2 DL would be awesome.
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First thing, if you go to KK you can't come back. Nobody has yet found a way to reset Knox or to revert the bootloader from KK. Go to it and you're stuck with it. May not matter depending on how you use your phone but there's a thread on here where the poster actually got his phone replaced because KK update meant he could no longer use it as he wanted and as he had it set up under 4.3.
(see http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2709623 )
You've already tripped Knox using Chainfire's autoroot so you're free to do pretty much whatever you wish. I have stayed with 4.3, using Alliance ROM, Philz recovery and Lean kernel because the phone is awesome using them and KK seems to be generating lots of problems even now and doesn't appear to offer anything really worth having to make up for the troubles... IMO.
If you can't see the zip in CWM the most likely reason is you're looking at the wrong 'card' - in Philz recovery for example, the external SD card is SDCard1, not SDCard. At a guess you have copied the zip to the external card and CWM is looking on the internal memory.Not sure what the options are for plain CWM but look for another card option or move the zip from where you have it. Given the best flash is to wipe everything on the internal memory, the external card is the best location - it won't be wiped.
Another way to do it is to use Odin - extract the zip till you get the MD5 file and flash that via Odin to the phone - you need to put the phone in Download mode to do it. (hold Menu + Vol Down + Power to get to DL mode) There are threads on here with instructions on how to use Odin.
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First thing, if you go to KK you can't come back. Nobody has yet found a way to reset Knox or to revert the bootloader from KK. Go to it and you're stuck with it. May not matter depending on how you use your phone but there's a thread on here where the poster actually got his phone replaced because KK update meant he could no longer use it as he wanted and as he had it set up under 4.3.
(see http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2709623 )
You've already tripped Knox using Chainfire's autoroot so you're free to do pretty much whatever you wish. I have stayed with 4.3, using Alliance ROM, Philz recovery and Lean kernel because the phone is awesome using them and KK seems to be generating lots of problems even now and doesn't appear to offer anything really worth having to make up for the troubles... IMO.
If you can't see the zip in CWM the most likely reason is you're looking at the wrong 'card' - in Philz recovery for example, the external SD card is SDCard1, not SDCard. At a guess you have copied the zip to the external card and CWM is looking on the internal memory.Not sure what the options are for plain CWM but look for another card option or move the zip from where you have it. Given the best flash is to wipe everything on the internal memory, the external card is the best location - it won't be wiped.
Another way to do it is to use Odin - extract the zip till you get the MD5 file and flash that via Odin to the phone - you need to put the phone in Download mode to do it. (hold Menu + Vol Down + Power to get to DL mode) There are threads on here with instructions on how to use Odin.
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I will stick with JB for now as I like my setup anyway. I know how odin works and CWM was definitely looking at my External SD as my backup was on it. This is the ROM I was trying http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2541304 I DL, extracted to a folder on my PC, put onto my micro SD, but alas, nothing to choose from to flash.
Found the Alliance one for N9005, looks real nice, so will give it a shot.
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Urghhhh why is it after hours of trawling and googling I can't find my answer. I did the alliance ROM (and now know how my first rom stuffed up) how do I get rid of the icon in the top left which shows download rate? Can't find the option anywhere on phone
Edited: Found it myself.
Final bit of noob from me for now. I tried to restore my CWM backup after installing Alliance, alliance overwrote CWM with TWRP, I did a factory reset, but could not restore from backup. It noted my CWM backup, but I could not restore it. Anything I did wrong here?
Edited: Once again from learning I fixed my own issue. Reflashed CWM, restored from todays backup, phone has gone from factory reset to how it was earlier today. Love the nandroid backup.
Ok so I had a nc1.. used towel root,rf, and safe strap.made a backup and tried flashing gravitron... now I'm in a nonstop bootloop or I'm at the warning custom o's found.... can any one tell me where to start to fix? Currently downloading Odin to try and flash a stock image if it has?
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Ok so I had a nc1.. used towel root,rf, and safe strap.made a backup and tried flashing gravitron... now I'm in a nonstop bootloop or I'm at the warning custom o's found.... can any one tell me where to start to fix? Currently downloading Odin to try and flash a stock image if it has?
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Do you still get the Safestrap splash screen on boot? If so you can just restore or reflash. Otherwise, you'll need to use the NB1 Odin and take the NC1 OTA.
Before you flash again, make sure you wipe in Safestrap (all but external SD) and check your ROM. Make sure it doesn't need an updater-script in the All Things MK2 & NB1 thread and for gravitron specifically download the Safestrap version of it.
Sent from my SGH-I337 running GPE
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Do you still get the Safestrap splash screen on boot? If so you can just restore or reflash. Otherwise, you'll need to use the NB1 Odin and take the NC1 OTA.
Before you flash again, make sure you wipe in Safestrap (all but external SD) and check your ROM. Make sure it doesn't need an updater-script in the All Things MK2 & NB1 thread and for gravitron specifically download the Safestrap version of it.
Sent from my SGH-I337 running GPE
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man this has taken all day....
1. basically i did make a intial backup with safstrap in slot 1 cause thats all i could use.
i flashed gravitron the att version but i guess there is a kernal mod i need to be flashing after.
needless to say i finally got into odin and got a tar. file for a fully rootable 4.4.2
ive flashed since my evo....this new safstrap especially anything to do with flashing, do i have a recovery or no, can i even flash right now or is it just to freeze things in TB??
so much stuff on xda.....yes i used search ...thats why im back to a normal phone....but geeze man
Thanks for the help
cbrewington75 said:
man this has taken all day....
1. basically i did make a intial backup with safstrap in slot 1 cause thats all i could use.
i flashed gravitron the att version but i guess there is a kernal mod i need to be flashing after.
needless to say i finally got into odin and got a tar. file for a fully rootable 4.4.2
ive flashed since my evo....this new safstrap especially anything to do with flashing, do i have a recovery or no, can i even flash right now or is it just to freeze things in TB??
so much stuff on xda.....yes i used search ...thats why im back to a normal phone....but geeze man
Thanks for the help
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Man i did the same thing when i first got this phone 3 weeks ago . i read a lot a first but i was so used to a phone without a locked boot loader. if you ahev any ?'s feel free to ask away . Im willing to help out .. i learned a ton since 3 weeks ago .. especially after bricking twice . If you have to use safetstrap then after falshing a rom do not reboot . flash the approiate kernel modules and Su if it calls for it in the install instructions.. Good luck
I just picked up a note 3...
Now being somewhat New to roms and stuff...
I have been following * GALAXY NOTE 3 ROOT * guy on you tube
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WQbTF7yTJSk <---------------------
I wanted to install a custom rom called Hyperdrive... I am very good at following instructions.
I rooted my phone correctly and now get the Unlock Icon .
I installed The hyperdrive.apk.zip to my Sdcard on the phone...
I installed Safestrap.. Backed up my stock rom
I watched the videos and did every step I was told to and it all worked perfectly.
But this is where I had the issue...after creating a Custom rom slot-1
I clicked install, selected the new Kitkat Hyperdirve zip on there site.
Installed took about 2 mins. Backed out of Safestrap correctly after it said installed complete.
reboot/system ...
Phone reboots .. Shows Samsung galaxie unlock root screen .. then just gos to a black screen of death.
cant tell if the phone is on or not.. have to pull the battery and restart in Up arrow ... middle button and power mode to get back in to stock system recovery...
Can someone please help me get this rom working on my system.. I just wanted to get rid of bloat ware and speed up my phone and customize it to my everyday needs .
my phone is a verizon note 3 Updated with 4.4.2 stock
I only want this rom installed to play it safe.. and please dont try to sell me a different rom or set up thanks guys n gals !
* love the note 3 by the way *
Jayson
Usa,Ca
Update * I was able to wipe Hydrive off the phone and reload stock rom.. back on track but What are my options to installing hyperdrive or a replica rom like it ? Useing Safestrap only
I-ron-ic-HTC said:
I just picked up a note 3...
Now being somewhat New to roms and stuff...
I have been following * GALAXY NOTE 3 ROOT * guy on you tube
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WQbTF7yTJSk <---------------------
I wanted to install a custom rom called Hyperdrive... I am very good at following instructions.
I rooted my phone correctly and now get the Unlock Icon .
I installed The hyperdrive.apk.zip to my Sdcard on the phone...
I installed Safestrap.. Backed up my stock rom
I watched the videos and did every step I was told to and it all worked perfectly.
But this is where I had the issue...after creating a Custom rom slot-1
I clicked install, selected the new Kitkat Hyperdirve zip on there site.
Installed took about 2 mins. Backed out of Safestrap correctly after it said installed complete.
reboot/system ...
Phone reboots .. Shows Samsung galaxie unlock root screen .. then just gos to a black screen of death.
cant tell if the phone is on or not.. have to pull the battery and restart in Up arrow ... middle button and power mode to get back in to stock system recovery...
Can someone please help me get this rom working on my system.. I just wanted to get rid of bloat ware and speed up my phone and customize it to my everyday needs .
my phone is a verizon note 3 Updated with 4.4.2 stock
I only want this rom installed to play it safe.. and please dont try to sell me a different rom or set up thanks guys n gals !
* love the note 3 by the way *
Jayson
Usa,Ca
Update * I was able to wipe Hydrive off the phone and reload stock rom.. back on track but What are my options to installing hyperdrive or a replica rom like it ? Useing Safestrap only
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In order to run a 4.4 rom you need to flash the NC2 kernel via Odin. The files and instructions can be found here. Just substitute the Hyperdrive rom or whatever 4.4 based rom you've chosen in the corresponding steps in the instructions. Also you only need to do this once unless you reset the device via Odin, the kernel will stick so flashing a different rom won't be as complicated.
Also it is recommended to use only the Stock slot in Safestrap because of battery/data drain issues. Just make sure to wipe before installing so everything installs correctly.
kinstre11 said:
In order to run a 4.4 rom you need to flash the NC2 kernel via Odin. The files and instructions can be found here. Just substitute the Hyperdrive rom or whatever 4.4 based rom you've chosen in the corresponding steps in the instructions. Also you only need to do this once unless you reset the device via Odin, the kernel will stick so flashing a different rom won't be as complicated.
Also it is recommended to use only the Stock slot in Safestrap because of battery/data drain issues. Just make sure to wipe before installing so everything installs correctly.
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I dont understand a certain part .. this is the instructions
Coming From Stock NC4 OTA <----- whats OTA ?
Step- 1 - Root Device with TowelRoot Here ------------------------- Done.....
Step- 2 - Install Busybox from play store and install busybox itself ------------------------------Done...........
Step- 3 - Install Hashcodes Latest Safestrap Here -------------------------- Done....................
Step- 4 - Boot into Safestrap Select Stock Slot ------------------------- Done.................
Step- 5 - Wipe Data Factory Reset The Stock Slot -------------------------- Not done afraid I wont be able to get stock rom back even after i backed it up
Step- 6 - Flash nc4 deodex rom to the stock slot ------------------ this part i dont understand but assuming i use the hyperdrive rom installed to the stock slot correct.?
Step- 7 - Reboot into Download mode From Safestrap ------------------------ I can do that
Step- 8 - Flash NC2 Kernel Package Here --------------------- again dont know how to flash i have odin installed and open on my destop and i have the nc2kenal file in the pda slot on odin ... I dont know the next steps to flash.. do i leave the phone on turn it off.. ??? stepts to flash ?
Stock deodex ??? what is that i was hoping to use the hyperdrive rom ? and do i install the hyperdrive rom into the stock slot ? after all this is over with ?
Step- 9 - You will Boot into a Stock Deodex rom with Root, Busybox, Init.d, Selinux Permissive, Insecure Modules!!
please be very detailed this means allot to me.. and I can finally break free :good:
I-ron-ic-HTC said:
I dont understand a certain part .. this is the instructions
Coming From Stock NC4 OTA <----- whats OTA ?
Step- 1 - Root Device with TowelRoot Here ------------------------- Done.....
Step- 2 - Install Busybox from play store and install busybox itself ------------------------------Done...........
Step- 3 - Install Hashcodes Latest Safestrap Here -------------------------- Done....................
Step- 4 - Boot into Safestrap Select Stock Slot ------------------------- Done.................
Step- 5 - Wipe Data Factory Reset The Stock Slot -------------------------- Not done afraid I wont be able to get stock rom back even after i backed it up
Step- 6 - Flash nc4 deodex rom to the stock slot ------------------ this part i dont understand the phone is already in nc4 and how do i flash to a specific slot ?!
Step- 7 - Reboot into Download mode From Safestrap ------------------------ I can do that
Step- 8 - Flash NC2 Kernel Package Here --------------------- again dont know how to flash i have odin installed and open on my destop and i have the nc2kenal file in the pda slot on odin ... I dont know the next steps to flash.. do i leave the phone on turn it off.. ???
Stock deodex ??? what is that i was hoping to use the hyperdrive rom ? and do i install the hyperdrive rom into the stock slot ? after all this is over with ?
Step- 9 - You will Boot into a Stock Deodex rom with Root, Busybox, Init.d, Selinux Permissive, Insecure Modules!!
please be very detailed this means allot to me.. and I can finally break free :good:
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Just follow the steps I sent you in the pm. No need to use the stock deodex rom.
Most custom roms will be deodex, all this means is that an app is one part. Normal an odex rom an app will be two parts, and located in two separate locations in memory, it helps which load times under certain demands but hinders customization.
As for the stock slot it is okay to wipe, and if you made a backup you can wipe and restore it. If you didn't make a backup you can always download a stock rom. Just try to think of your original stock rom is exactly that, A Rom, nothing more nothing less.
kinstre11 said:
Just follow the steps I sent you in the pm. No need to use the stock deodex rom.
Most custom roms will be deodex, all this means is that an app is one part. Normal an odex rom an app will be two parts, and located in two separate locations in memory, it helps which load times under certain demands but hinders customization.
As for the stock slot it is okay to wipe, and if you made a backup you can wipe and restore it. If you didn't make a backup you can always download a stock rom. Just try to think of your original stock rom is exactly that, A Rom, nothing more nothing less.
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Thanks hyperdrive is amazing fast and simple +1
I-ron-ic-HTC said:
Thanks hyperdrive is amazing fast and simple +1
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My pleasure man, glad I could help out.
same issue, but got worse
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My pleasure man, glad I could help out.
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I think I missed the juice of the fix but can you help me? I had the same issue as him, but ran what I thought would fix it but I just see the boot screen continousely since doing ODIN N900v_NC2_FW_Updated.tar.md5
Since doing this, I lost my safestrap and just see those colored balls loading as it looks like a bootloop
parag2k said:
I think I missed the juice of the fix but can you help me? I had the same issue as him, but ran what I thought would fix it but I just see the boot screen continousely since doing ODIN N900v_NC2_FW_Updated.tar.md5
Since doing this, I lost my safestrap and just see those colored balls loading as it looks like a bootloop
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If you've lost Safestrap you will need to reset your device via Odin and start over. Pulling the battery will get you oit of the bootloop, then boot into download mode (volume down + home + power button).
On your computer you need to open Odin and then connect your phone to your computer. Load the stock tar file found here in the AP slot. Give Odin a couple minutes to load the process and once the Start button is available click it and let Odin run. It will restart your device when it is finished. Just a heads up, if you are currently on NC4 you must use that firmware you can not go backwards.
From this point you will need to reroot, install busybox and Safestrap again. From there follow the instructions found here to get on the NC2 kernel.
If you followed all these steps correctly you can now flash any 4.4 based rom for the retail Note 3.
it works!
kinstre11 said:
If you've lost Safestrap you will need to reset your device via Odin and start over. Pulling the battery will get you oit of the bootloop, then boot into download mode (volume down + home + power button).
On your computer you need to open Odin and then connect your phone to your computer. Load the stock tar file found here in the AP slot. Give Odin a couple minutes to load the process and once the Start button is available click it and let Odin run. It will restart your device when it is finished. Just a heads up, if you are currently on NC4 you must use that firmware you can not go backwards.
From this point you will need to reroot, install busybox and Safestrap again. From there follow the instructions found here to get on the NC2 kernel.
If you followed all these steps correctly you can now flash any 4.4 based rom for the retail Note 3.
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Thanks! Got it working w/ your tips... did have to start from scratch which wound up being a good thing in getting to the rom I wanted - Jasmine ROM. Much thanks again
parag2k said:
Thanks! Got it working w/ your tips... did have to start from scratch which wound up being a good thing in getting to the rom I wanted - Jasmine ROM. Much thanks again
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Enjoy.
Oh boy, I really screwed this one up...
I purchased a used Note 3 from eBay, hoping to be able to root it after it arrived. Much to my surprise, it arrived rooted with Safestrap, Hyperdrive ROM in Stock slot, and a different Hyperdrive ROM in Slot1. I was also impressed that KNOX had not been tripped. (It said Custom, but the KNOX flag showed 0x00)
Sweet looking phone in hand, I was thrilled! I wasn't going to have to cut my teeth on rooting the device myself prior to having an opportunity to explore a rooted Android and a custom ROM. The very first thing I did was to use Safestrap to backup both the Stock slot and Slot1. After the backups, I booted the stock slot first, to see how a factory Note 3 should look. Surprise again, the stock slot booted a Hyperdrive ROM. I was a bit nervous that I didn't have a truly stock ROM, but wasn't too worried about it because I had no plans to resell or seek repairs under warranty.
I then spent a couple of days tinkering with the device. Unfortunately, half asleep during the wee hours of the morning, I was tinkering around with SuperSU -- setting grant/deny/prompt flags for different apps. Somewhere in the midst of that, SuperSU informed me that I had lost root. I checked with RootChecker, and sure enough NO Root.
Things got worse from there, as I'm sure you can imagine. RootChecker had a button to relaunch SuperSU, so I tapped it. This time, SuperSU wanted to re-install itself. Being the ignorant noob that I am, I told SuperSU to proceed, and crossed my fingers. After a few seconds of thrashing around, SuperSU wanted to reboot, so I said okay...
Now the device attempts to go into recovery, reboots itself, attempts recovery, reboots, again, and again... boot loop... and no way to charge the battery... I believe I am around 55% to 60% charged at the moment.
So I read great things about Odin and downloaded a copy -- not yet sure exactly what I was going to do with it. I have been trying to wrap my head around this for a couple of days now, but I have several questions that I hope somebody can shed some light on.
Does the rooting take place in the boot image, or in the ROM image? I am assuming it has to be in the boot image, but then I've heard you can have rooted and unrooted ROMs in different slots.
If I use Odin to flash fresh firmware, will this firmware will have a functional recovery tool bundled with it?
Since the phone is no longer rooted, the recovery will not be able to re-flash a ROM onto the device?
If an Odin installed recovery can't re-flash a ROM due to being unrooted, am I faced with JTAG options only?
If I were to use Odin to flash this firmware: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2726558 , could I perhaps get SafeStrap back and be able to restore the backups I made? The links on that page appear to be to the same (or very similar) firmware that was running prior to this disaster. NC2, Safestrap, etc.
If I can't use Odin to flash the firmware linked in the previous paragraph, and get Safestrap to restore my backups, can I use the firmware, ROMs, and PIT file linked here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2576104 to restore the phone to factory conditions and re-root from there?
Finally, is there any way for me to avoid tripping KNOX at this point? I'm not really sure I care if it gets tripped, but if I can avoid it then I probably should. Am I likely to need KNOX container support on a private device in the near future? Is there any other reason to be spooked about losing KNOX? I really don't care much about the warranty.
Any help with this mess will be **greatly** appreciated!
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If I were to use Odin to flash this firmware: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2726558 , could I perhaps get SafeStrap back and be able to restore the backups I made? The links on that page appear to be to the same (or very similar) firmware that was running prior to this disaster. NC2, Safestrap, etc.
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Ok, if anybody comes across this thread looking for answers -- I did successfully use Odin to get this firmware back onto the device. Upon booting, I had Safestrap, was able to boot Slot1, and had root. When I boot from the Stock slot, still no root.
I have not yet attempted to restore the Stock slot backup, because I first want to see if I can boot Slot1 (to get root), and then find/mount the Stock slot image and see if I can find a way to re-root it manually.
lintex said:
Ok, if anybody comes across this thread looking for answers -- I did successfully use Odin to get this firmware back onto the device. Upon booting, I had Safestrap, was able to boot Slot1, and had root. When I boot from the Stock slot, still no root.
I have not yet attempted to restore the Stock slot backup, because I first want to see if I can boot Slot1 (to get root), and then find/mount the Stock slot image and see if I can find a way to re-root it manually.
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Using any other slot other then stock is going to be problematic. So use the stock slot. You are using the nc2 firmware if you have the reboot to recovery bootloop issue. You can flash the nc4 patched firmware in beans firmware thread if you want. Reboot to recovery is not the same as reboot to safestrap. Download a fresh rom. Wipe everything but external sd under the advanced wipe button in safestrap. Flash your new rom making sure stock slot is the active slot. Setup phone like normal. Make a backup with your now freshly setup rom. Rinse and repeat for new roms. Label your backups if you want to rom jump. Always use stock slot. Odin the nc2 kernel if you have a blackscreen on first boot of a new rom.
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Using any other slot other then stock is going to be problematic.
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In my case, Slot1 is simply a rooted ROM that I can use when the Stock slot gets messed up. I have no desire or intent to tinker with Slot1. I consider it as an emergency tool only. It does seem to have an issue though. It never seems to want to power all the way down for some reason.
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So use the stock slot. You are using the nc2 firmware if you have the reboot to recovery bootloop issue. You can flash the nc4 patched firmware in beans firmware thread if you want. Reboot to recovery is not the same as reboot to safestrap.
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I am using the NC2 firmware, but I no longer have the bootloop problem. After using Odin to re-install the NC2 firmware from BeansTown, the device was once again able to boot to Safestrap. From there, I was able to select and boot either of the existing slots. Slot1 still boots to root, Stock slot is still unrooted. I should be able to use Safestrap to restore my Stock slot backup and regain root on Slot1, right?
The only reason I have not yet attempted to restore the Stock slot backup is because I hope to boot my rooted Slot1 ROM, mount the Stock ROM image, and fix the Stock ROM image. If not, then I will try to restore the Stock slot backup.
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Download a fresh rom. Wipe everything but external sd under the advanced wipe button in safestrap. Flash your new rom making sure stock slot is the active slot.
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I definitely plan to flash a new ROM, soon. I want a fresh clean ROM for personal use, and I also need to find a ROM that supports HDMI -- because I want to get Debian to display on a larger screen. My ultimate goal is to create my own ROMs. I have a bit of experience with kernel tweaking/building, and created a bootable Linux-based DVD image by hand. I believe I will someday be able to tweak phone ROMs as well, but I'm still fuzzy about much of the Android system. Stuff like locks and KNOX seem like quite a mine field and make me very nervous. A blank DVD coaster is one thing, an expensive smartphone is scary.
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In my case, Slot1 is simply a rooted ROM that I can use when the Stock slot gets messed up. I have no desire or intent to tinker with Slot1. I consider it as an emergency tool only. It does seem to have an issue though. It never seems to want to power all the way down for some reason.
I am using the NC2 firmware, but I no longer have the bootloop problem. After using Odin to re-install the NC2 firmware from BeansTown, the device was once again able to boot to Safestrap. From there, I was able to select and boot either of the existing slots. Slot1 still boots to root, Stock slot is still unrooted. I should be able to use Safestrap to restore my Stock slot backup and regain root on Slot1, right?
The only reason I have not yet attempted to restore the Stock slot backup is because I hope to boot my rooted Slot1 ROM, mount the Stock ROM image, and fix the Stock ROM image. If not, then I will try to restore the Stock slot backup.
I definitely plan to flash a new ROM, soon. I want a fresh clean ROM for personal use, and I also need to find a ROM that supports HDMI -- because I want to get Debian to display on a larger screen. My ultimate goal is to create my own ROMs. I have a bit of experience with kernel tweaking/building, and created a bootable Linux-based DVD image by hand. I believe I will someday be able to tweak phone ROMs as well, but I'm still fuzzy about much of the Android system. Stuff like locks and KNOX seem like quite a mine field and make me very nervous. A blank DVD coaster is one thing, an expensive smartphone is scary.
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As long as you stick to the known exploits like safestrap and towelroot then theres no worrys about knoxs. And no real way to perma brick the device. Make sure you stick to offical firmware when using odin and abuse your device like you would any other.
I am currently on the unlocked MDL bootloader, and I am running KANGAKAT 7.0, which is a KitKat 4.4 ROM. My phone is also encrypted, which means that I cannot flash updates due to CWM/TWRP not supporting encryption.
The solution proposed by other users has been to ODIN the stock MK2 recovery onto my phone, use the stock recovery to factory reset my device, then re-flash TWRP and then my new ROM.
However I'm having a problem with these steps. I am able to successfully ODIN the stock MK2 recovery to my device, however whenever I try to boot into recovery, I get the yellow triangle screen stating that I'm running software that is not authorized by AT&T, and stating something to do with my kernel in the top left of the screen.
Is there a step that I am missing? I followed the instructions @ http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1506697
It looks like that file is for the s2 skyrocket, not the s4. You'll probably have to flash the complete mdl firmware in Odin
Edit, if you're still rooted try flashing twrp 2.8.3.0 image file in flashify from the play store. http://techerrata.com/browse/twrp2/jflteatt
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It looks like that file is for the s2 skyrocket, not the s4. You'll probably have to flash the complete mdl firmware in Odin
Edit, if you're still rooted try flashing twrp 2.8.3.0 image file in flashify from the play store. http://techerrata.com/browse/twrp2/jflteatt
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Yeah, they're instructions for the S2 Skyrocket, but I just used the general procedure and not the file, I used the stock recovery listed here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=49687791&postcount=3
You make an interesting point though, if I ODIN the entire stock MDL ROM, that could work. I'm just going to write over it with another ROM anyways, so what I restore to shouldn't matter. I know this is probably a dumb question, but flashing the stock MDL ROM isn't going to affect my MDL bootloader is it?
I can get TWRP 2.8.3.0 with or without Flashify, but that app is very convenient, thank you for the tip =)
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Yeah, they're instructions for the S2 Skyrocket, but I just used the general procedure and not the file, I used the stock recovery listed here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=49687791&postcount=3
You make an interesting point though, if I ODIN the entire stock MDL ROM, that could work. I'm just going to write over it with another ROM anyways, so what I restore to shouldn't matter. I know this is probably a dumb question, but flashing the stock MDL ROM isn't going to affect my MDL bootloader is it?
I can get TWRP 2.8.3.0 with or without Flashify, but that app is very convenient, thank you for the tip =)
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Flashing the mdl firmware in Odin will still give you the mdl bootloader. But it'll want to update after you flash so flash another custom rom or freeze the update files before it does so.
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@ChrisG683 Be sure to turn your wi-fi off and remove your SIM card, that way it can't update. You can put any apps you think you might need on an SD card and install them without having to go to the play store. Once you get things frozen or removed then you'll be good to go. :good:
Thanks guys, I'll be sure to keep that in mind once I get things sorted out.
The newest thing I've figured out is that the MDL stock recovery does not give me the "yellow triangle" error, and it presents me with the option to wipe my device. (I grabbed it from here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2429406)
Now I'm just making sure I have a stock MDL ROM ready to ODIN in case I screw up my device =). Hopefully this all works out.
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Looks like everything went beautifully. The MDL stock recovery wiped my /data partition perfectly, and I was able to reboot into a fresh and clean copy of KANGAKAT 6.0. Then I was able to use a terminal to flash TWRP, did a factory reset, flashed KANGAPOP 1.4, and now you can add me to the list of proud Lollipop users =)