[Q] Sacs ROM 4.2 (v8) vs 4.3 (v2/3) - Sprint Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshoot

So I've been on stock mf9 rooted for awhile now and I was thinking about flashing to Sascs ROM. However there is both a 4.2 version and a 4.3 version. My question, basically, is if there are any cons to using the 4.3 rom over the 4.2 one, since 4.3 is newer. Like, is it stable enough to use as a daily driver yet, and are there any features not yet implemented that are in the 4.2 that might be worth sicking with 4.2 for awhile over? And how much "better" (in terms of new features/speed/battery/etc) 4.3 ROM in general?
Hope that was succint enough. Thanks!

I updated from Sacs 4.2 to his.3 rom and IMHO as far as features go, there isn't any noticeable difference. If anything you have more freedom to mod with 4.2 considering 3minit is built in and is not yet compatible with his 4.3 rom. Both roms are rock solid though so can't go wrong either way. Hope this helps!

I prefer his 4.3 ROM because it is the newer software, but his 4.2 ROM is more stable. My phone sometime freezes on the 4.3 ROM

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[Q] Safe to use 4.2.1 based custom ROM's after upgrading to 4.2.2?

If I don't like the stock 4.2.2 and want to go back to a 4.2.1 based custom ROM is it cool to just wipe and install them (per usual)? One would imagine it'd be fine since I'll be wiping everything but want to make sure. I'm not sure if there's some kind of firmware component of 4.2.2 that'll render my Nexus 7 incompatible with the 4.2.1 custom ROMs out there.
If it's not okay is it possible to downgrade back down to 4.2.1 from a factory image and then install these custom ROM's?
Thanks ahead of time.

[Q] TW ( jb 4.3) vs. GPE (kk 4.4)

Anyone running Kit kat 4.4 GPE Rom on GT-I9505??.. specifically those running TW rom before.. Is there any significant improvement as compared to TW 4.3? Is it worth the try?
I'm on omega rom v16 (JB 4.3) and running flawlessly for me but i'm tempted to try out kit kat GPE rom. I tried CM once but it didn't improve performance or battery life(no offence to cm devs) So, I'm afraid to jump on this one...
Any advice is highly appreciated

Yes I did today. There's a few bugs with the GPE edition at the mo such as reboots during calls and when charging I'd advise to wait until these are sorted before trying.
You'll miss the camera app, AOSP camera is lacking in options and modes compared to the TW version, no burst mode and such.
It flies though the rom is very fast and smooth. If you've run CM before than it'd be a similar experience but you'd be running an AOSP version comptiable properly with our device.
Obviously it's AOSP so none of the TW features will be present. It's simple and effective however there's useful things on TW so I've flashed back to that, camera, and such I require I find better on TW.
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need advice

well,
request to user if they can advice on which firmware will be good as if i stay stock is right choice to update to latest or should iI go custom and if later the n which rom as need it for an upgrade for my young bro phone
If u like asop roms u can do with custom roms..but in custom roms there is no dual SIM functionality only primary SIM works!!!
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shhbz said:
well,
request to user if they can advice on which firmware will be good as if i stay stock is right choice to update to latest or should iI go custom and if later the n which rom as need it for an upgrade for my young bro phone
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If you are staying stock, go with the latest 4.2.2 firmware as it has improvements in regard of gaming drivers and lags compared to 4.1.2.
There's GENNXT, that's the most stable available stock based ROM.
Advantage of stock would be better gaming experience, samsung apps and dual SIM functionality
While the down side would be the usage of RAM is a little higher, as can be expected by stock based ROMs, so expect freezes and lags every now and then.
If you are going custom, in 4.2.2 there's only CM11 that was just released 3 days ago. If you opt to downgrade to 4.1.2, there's an array of ROMs available like PAC-MAN, MoKee, SlimBean, Resurrection and so on.
Personally I would recommend SlimBean, as it's the one I'm usually on and it's the one with the best battery backup, but all of them are full of customizations.
Advantage of being on these would be great performance, close to no lags at all, and starts with over 500 Mb RAM free
And the main disadvantage would be single SIM functionality and limited graphic drivers from 4.1.2 firmware
iceyhotguy said:
If you are staying stock, go with the latest 4.2.2 firmware as it has improvements in regard of gaming drivers and lags compared to 4.1.2.
There's GENNXT, that's the most stable available stock based ROM.
Advantage of stock would be better gaming experience, samsung apps and dual SIM functionality
While the down side would be the usage of RAM is a little higher, as can be expected by stock based ROMs, so expect freezes and lags every now and then.
If you are going custom, in 4.2.2 there's only CM11 that was just released 3 days ago. If you opt to downgrade to 4.1.2, there's an array of ROMs available like PAC-MAN, MoKee, SlimBean, Resurrection and so on.
Personally I would recommend SlimBean, as it's the one I'm usually on and it's the one with the best battery backup, but all of them are full of customizations.
Advantage of being on these would be great performance, close to no lags at all, and starts with over 500 Mb RAM free
And the main disadvantage would be single SIM functionality and limited graphic drivers from 4.1.2 firmware
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great so i go with slim so i blv all will be normal as first recovery and then flash super su and then flash the rom. which recovery working better for 4.4.2 flashing
a specific CWM
shhbz said:
great so i go with slim so i blv all will be normal as first recovery and then flash super su and then flash the rom. which recovery working better for 4.4.2 flashing
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for android 4.4.1 cm11(4.4.2 not available yet) you have to use a specific recovery which supports SELinux .....you can find more information about it on cm11 thread...
slim 4.4.2 if you are thinking about(slimcat which is called) , is not at all stable yet !!! so there is no 4.4.2 i clear again....
visit this link and see installing procedure if u want this rom !
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2563557
hope i helped
raghavsharmaxda said:
all are same and will help you to flash your custom rom (unless and until u want to flash 4.4 cm11, which requires a specific CWM) ....philz recovery and CWM works all great as they are meant for recovery only
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you see for us on note2 forum philz works the best with great touch support and issues whatsoever so just wanted to be sure on that

[Survey] Android 4.1 vs 4.3

Hi,
Because we all have diffrent opninion about our Sony Xperia SP I would like to do a very small reseach.
With this very easy poll I just want the next question answered:
Are you running official 4.1.2 or 4.3.x?
If you are running a custom ROM (CM, PA or even stockbased) answer Custom ROM..
If you have answerd the question please let me know in a comment:
Tell which one you have chosen (perhaps even the build number of the version you run) and wheter you are happy with it or not!
Thanks!
OP will kickoff:
I have chosen for Stock Sony 4.3.x. I am not that happy with it because it still has a few bugs. I do however am happy because Sony finnaly took the time to update it after delay and more delay. Now we are just waiting for KitKat.
I still choose 4.3 because camera feature and others.
205 fw
I'm running 4.3, without much talk it's just the best choice right now since many bugs have been fixed and it does come with some pretty nice features
I'm in 4.3.... every OS have bugs, but at least with 4.3 you have more features here and there and thats why is better that stay in a old OS version
Also last update just let me little visual bugs (install app bar), GPS (not the big deal) and Wifi (well Wifi range sucks since 4.1)
I am on stock 4.3,and i am happy!
Nearly all bugs are fixed,only ram is failing in some moments
Happy with stock 4.3 latest fw, much better than previous updates. No lag here, so its good for me after all those laggy updates.
I had lag issues with all versions of the stock ROM I've tried. After testing a whole bunch of custom ROMs I've settled on CM 10.1. While it is not exactly cutting edge, it has been out of active development for many months, it is rock solid and stable.
I use stock 4.3 as camera is important to me. I found PA 4.4.4 to be the fastest rom for me, but I want to be able to control ISO manually on my camera. I tried various versions of 4.3 and decided to stick with my carrier version (O2 UK). Once towel rooted and debloated I find it to be very fast and stable. More so than the various deodex stock roms on the forum.
Yea I am also on the .205 4.3 firmware, I am UK customised, one of the last to get it but it is good. I fixed the uninstall glitch with a fixed package installer apk, only issue I have experienced is battery drain due to location services and lower ram (compared with 4.1.2).
I'm using 4.3, with eXistenZ Ultra. Couldn't be happier [emoji1]
Stock 4.1.2 is the best
I'm using stock 4.1.2 with swap on stock kernel
Was on latest stock every time a new firmware was released, then switched to eXistenZ when it seemed like we'd never have KK, but I've never been deceived with either stock firmware or eXistenZ, both have always been very fast and I've never experienced any lag or disconfort on this phone.
EXistenZ is perfect. 4.3 is better than 4.1 imho
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Cyanogenmod 11 by FXP
I personally favours CM 11 because of a few flaws present in the stock ROM. Not to be lying, I really like Sony's UI (framework-res.apk) and some aspects of the stock ROM. As per to my experience, the stock ROM is not that heavily modified as I can somehow use some things that are meant for AOSP-based ROMs, which is a huge plus for me. However, when it comes to support and RAM, it fails to meet my requirement, and that is what forced me to use CM.
classicalpunk said:
Was on latest stock every time a new firmware was released, then switched to eXistenZ when it seemed like we'd never have KK, but I've never been deceived with either stock firmware or eXistenZ, both have always been very fast and I've never experienced any lag or disconfort on this phone.
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Hah, you must be joking...
Gamm86 said:
Hah, you must be joking...
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Nope, I can assure you, maybe I've just been lucky but all of the bugs and lags that have been blamed on it ? I've never had them. The only bad point for me is the pretty average camera.
I'm on stock 4.3 (.205 fw). Best I've experience by far, both feature-wise and usability. RAm management could be better though.

[Q] Recommend STABLE Sprint KitKat 4.4.2 NAE ROM?

In my years of rooted phones (Galaxy S2 E4GT, Galaxy S4 (destroyed USB port), Galaxy S4 #2... neither of the S4's have Spark), I have always stuck with stock rooted ROMs. My Sprint Samsung Galaxy S4 is currently on NAE stock rooted TouchWiz with the MF9 bootloader (no-Knox). I have developed a strange issue with loosing my mobile connection and GPS, referenced here: [Q] NAE started loosing mobile connection & GPS? and here: [Q] Loosing mobile connection & GPS. The best suggestion I feel I have received to deal with my issue is to flash a 4.4.2 NAE ROM that already has the Knox removed from it, which means looking for a non-stock ROM, so I am looking for recommendations...
My main priority is STABILITY over bells and whistles. I would prefer a TouchWiz based ROM, because I like the interface, however the only 4.4.2 NAE TouchWiz ROM I find is Negalite WondeROM X, and the developer of that ROM has not posted here since April, so it appears to be abandoned. Also, I'm not so keen on being stuck with a blue theme anyways.
That then leaves me with AOSP ROMs I believe. It occurs to me that because I'm use Nova Launcher, assuming that works under AOSP, rather than the TouchWiz launcher, my interface isn't going to change anyway, correct?
I would prefer to be able to use the KT-SGS4 kernel, only because I like it. I prefer to be able to make choice for myself than to have choices made for me (I might not prefer a ROM that removes a lot of bloatware if I don't consider some of it bloatware, or forces me into a certain color scheme, for example).
So any recommendations for AOSP ROMs that fit my needs? I haven't even started looking yet, but thought I'd throw this out there. CyanogenMod certainly seems to be the most well know ROM (and that is AOSP, correct?), but to my way of thinking, any ROM that needs nightly updates must have a lot of issues that need fixing (correct me if I am wrong about that... and I'm not the nightly flashing type anyways). I have always stuck stock rooted to avoid problems, so I DON'T want flash a ROM that will CAUSE problems! Thanks!
Well... I don't seem to be getting much (ANY) response to this. Having looked around myself, I am finding it difficult just finding ANY 4.4.2 ROMs, everything seems to have gone on to 4.4.4. My reason for AVOIDING 4.4.4 at this point is that 4.4.2 is still the official release level for my phone, plus the ext sd card issues I've heard about (which may or may not be an issue). SO... ARE THERE ANY VALID 4.4.2 NAE CUSTOM ROMs to flash? At least tell me that. I still strongly dislike ANYTHING that has NIGHTLY updates. Thanks.
Previous versions are Nae based newest 2.0 version is ng2 based
[ROM][NAE/NG2][TW 4.4] [TEAM ACHERON] SuperS4 [ODEXED] UPDATED 8-22-14
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2773162
pontif said:
Previous versions are Nae based newest 2.0 version is ng2 based
[ROM][NAE/NG2][TW 4.4] [TEAM ACHERON] SuperS4 [ODEXED] UPDATED 8-22-14
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2773162
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I know that, but I'm figuring since my phone hasn't officially received a NG2 update yet (unless I am missing something... I think the Spark version has), I don't want to make that jump yet (stupid or not...)
rsngfrce said:
I know that, but I'm figuring since my phone hasn't officially received a NG2 update yet (unless I am missing something... I think the Spark version has), I don't want to make that jump yet (stupid or not...)
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Download the older version 1.6 it's nae based. The link is in the OP for older versions. You don't have to take the leap.
Well, right now, based on what I have found, or based on recommendations, these seem to be my options:
[ROM][NAE][4.4.2] Negalite WondeROM X | Aroma | Xposed | Performance | Kernel | 04-11
[ROM][NAE/NG2][TW 4.4] [TEAM ACHERON] SuperS4 [ODEXED] UPDATED 8-22-14 (older version 1.6)
[ROM] ***Sacs_Custom_Rom_4.4.2_KITKAT_v6*** (I am still really not clear at all what the features of this ROM are).
[ROM][Official][4.4.2] SlimKat Stable 3.0 (older 4.4.2 NAE version, BUT I cannot find 4.4.2 NAE gapps on their site anywhere).
Does anybody have any opinions?
Hey man. I was sort of in the same boat as you. Years of flashing but prefer stock for stability. Lately my s4 felt not only sluggish, but there have been odd jitters in audio, terrible battery life when I'm actually using it very little. So I decided to install CM in a whim.
Last I used CM it was trash. The rom was absurdly unstable and it was just a bad experience, however, with over a year on the market I thought that the S4 version might have changed and be better. And change it did. This rom is better, more stable, absurdly faster, and to top it off battery has improved about 30%. Maybe even more. The system settings are not only extremely decluttered and well laid out, but it also has lots of features that I used apps for, such as NFC profiles baked into the OS.
As for the nightly, I strongly recommend against flashing them, pick the "Stable" version of the rom, the "Milestone" build. Also, CM unified all S4s to 1 master build so our device would be this: http://wiki.cyanogenmod.org/w/Jflte_Info That's great news as that means that all of the resources have been focused on one rom and it works very well. No issues with any radios, GPS, BT, WiFi, they all switch on faster than they did on the stock s4 build and GPS locks fast. Everything for me is working perfectly after a week. I advice you flash stock, root, then you flash a recovery(I used TWRP) and do a full wipe, flash the latest CM M build and see for yourself. I'm thoroughly impressed with the ROM, I'm sure you will be too.
Thanks very much for the informative post! I will have to give CM a look as you suggest. :thumbup:

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