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I'm surprised it hasn't been brought up to attention yet, but is it possible for the i337 to work on AWS band?
The reason I'm asking this is because I've found services through kijiji to modify the i337m (Canadian version) to work with WIND and MOBILICITY.
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I highly doubt those people will tell you exactly how to mod it and I don't have a S4 yet but maybe it's the same method use to mod the gnote 2.
I'm really hoping someone could try it out and see what happens, maybe even with a tutorial if it's successful.
I have seen this ad as well. I have galaxy s4 from Bell (SGH i337m). I have tried the Note 2 method but that does not work on it. There must be a new trick which someone has figured out but they are using it commercially.
the only carrier that has both aws and regular 2600mhz lte is rogers (at least in canada) and they are rebranding it to lte max
http://www.mobilemag.com/2013/05/02/rogers-launches-lte-max/
and yes, the gs4 does switch between 1700-2100 and 2600 bands and its the only phone to do it
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the only carrier that has both aws and regular 2600mhz lte is rogers (at least in canada) and they are rebranding it to lte max
http://www.mobilemag.com/2013/05/02/rogers-launches-lte-max/
and yes, the gs4 does switch between 1700-2100 and 2600 bands and its the only phone to do it
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Someone in the T-Mobile S4 forum claims that the T-Mobile S4 will do it as well.
polish_pat said:
the only carrier that has both aws and regular 2600mhz lte is rogers (at least in canada) and they are rebranding it to lte max
http://www.mobilemag.com/2013/05/02/rogers-launches-lte-max/
and yes, the gs4 does switch between 1700-2100 and 2600 bands and its the only phone to do it
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Bell and Rogers will both carry the i337m model so I guess it won't make a difference either way if the phone is unlocked.
But what do you mean it can switch between 1700-2100? I didn't think aws is a original supported banned for the i337.
Originally they are able to switch between LTE Aws 1700/2100 and 2600 but the HSPA 1700/2100 is disabled in software of SGH i337 and 337m. We are talking about Kijiji ads where people are able to sim unlock and enable Hspa 1700/2100 on these phones.
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killer8297 said:
Bell and Rogers will both carry the i337m model so I guess it won't make a difference either way if the phone is unlocked.
But what do you mean it can switch between 1700-2100? I didn't think aws is a original supported banned for the i337.
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1700 and 2100mhz are the regular LTE bands, maximum theoretical speeds of 75 and 100mb/s respectively. 2600mhz is AWS, aka Rogers' LTE Max which has 150mb/s. As of now, the only carrier in Canada to have AWS is Rogers and in the US, T-Mobile seems to have it and verizon are planning for it sometime this year, AT&T seem to have it too but at 2300mhz, i'm not sure why tho. The GS4 can switch between AWS and LTE, which also mean that it will be doing that when the 700mhz spectrum war will be over. And the 700mhz war is probbaly the most important technological advance for the mobile industry as that frequency can go through very thick walls other material that greatly diminishes current LTE bands.
MY I337 does not work on T-Mobile 3G/4G only get EDGE.
Has there been any way to enable aws bands like on the note 2
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wait for a canadien modem to be a flashable zip
I see
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hyelton said:
MY I337 does not work on T-Mobile 3G/4G only get EDGE.
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That's because AT&T's S4 doesn't support those other bands. It has been reported that T-mobiles S4 does plus it also works on AT&T's network (LTE included).
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That's because AT&T's S4 doesn't support those other bands. It has been reported that T-mobiles S4 does plus it also works on AT&T's network (LTE included).
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Yes I know it doesn't have it out of the box but does it have hardware for aws to be enabled
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dkotoric said:
Yes I know it doesn't have it out of the box but does it have hardware for aws to be enabled
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im pretty sure it does, it would be less expensive for samsung to disable the AWS bands by software then to create a new motherboard with other hardware that doesnt support it. I'm ready to bid 100$ that it has the hardware for it, just not active
Just to clarify some of the incorrect info / misunderstandings here:
The S3 and Note 2 (ATT / Rogers / Bell / TELUS variants) had a Qualcomm tweak that enabled AWS HSPA so that the hardware would work on T-Mobile / WIND / Mobilicity.
The question is if a similar tweak will work on the I337/M (ATT / Rogers / Bell / TELUS variants). I am curious because when I travel to the US, I use T-Mobile.
From what I read, out of the box, the T-Mobile variant of the S4 will work on all the carriers, but the ATT variant will not (like the S3 / Note 2 before it, a tweak is required).
polish_pat said:
wait for a canadien modem to be a flashable zip
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Hope it's not going to be the quality as the original gnote note, i717.
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Just to clarify some of the incorrect info / misunderstandings here:
The S3 and Note 2 (ATT / Rogers / Bell / TELUS variants) had a Qualcomm tweak that enabled AWS HSPA so that the hardware would work on T-Mobile / WIND / Mobilicity.
The question is if a similar tweak will work on the I337/M (ATT / Rogers / Bell / TELUS variants). I am curious because when I travel to the US, I use T-Mobile.
From what I read, out of the box, the T-Mobile variant of the S4 will work on all the carriers, but the ATT variant will not (like the S3 / Note 2 before it, a tweak is required).
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ive come to realize with the s4 that att and perhaps other us carriers are plain simple assholes. Sure, you might have a 2 year contract when us canadiens have 3 years contracts, but at least we have unlocked bootloaders, we can use hotspotting without carriers shutting us down, we dont have throttling and we have the 50gb dropbox offer regardless if our carrier has its own cloud storage.
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ive come to realize with the s4 that att and perhaps other us carriers are plain simple assholes. Sure, you might have a 2 year contract when us canadiens have 3 years contracts, but at least we have unlocked bootloaders, we can use hotspotting without carriers shutting us down, we dont have throttling and we have the 50gb dropbox offer regardless if our carrier has its own cloud storage.
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Our rates are cheaper now anyways. Our $65-$85 plans in Canada are $120 in the US. But back on topic...
Is our bootloader I337M for sure unlocked? Are you sure?
WorldIRC said:
Our rates are cheaper now anyways. Our $65-$85 plans in Canada are $120 in the US. But back on topic...
Is our bootloader I337M for sure unlocked? Are you sure?
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100%, there are many many people in the forum that have the canadian variant and are running a custom recovery. I would do it, but i wont touch any rooting or recovery until an OTA come and fixes the lag issues
Sorry guys but I do not exactly understand if the S4 can work on Wind Mobile or not?
I have a Nexus 4 which I want to sell (tired of terrible battery life with an average camera) and I want to buy the Rogers S4. If I were to unlock the S4 can it run on Wind Mobile 3G?
Thanks in advance.
Wow its been a long time since I've been here! I see all of you are still busy!
... so basically, I'm going to buy an S4, but I'm not sure WHICH I should buy ... and I'm not sure where I should put this question since all the models are spread all over the place, but since I'm in Canada I thought this place would be a good start :laugh:
So basically, from what I've seen, the AT&T (i337) model is quite limited in out-the-box bands, and also has a locked bootloader. From what I've come up with, digging through information about all the models and Canadian carriers, is that the two best models for use in Canada seem to be the I337M and the T-Mobile M919 ... I really wanted a Samsung branded phone, but it seems if I get the I9505 I'll be missing out on a whole bunch of radio bands ... from what I've seen however, the unlocked I337M has no branding on it though ...
So basically what I've come up with is that both the T-Mobile M919 and the Canadian I337M both have unlocked bootloaders ... and they all run on the same GSM freq.
Someone please correct me if I'm wrong here, but, it looks to me like both the M919 and the I337M also share the same LTE bands, which are LTE 700MHz (Band 17) / 850MHz (Band 5) / 1900MHz (Band 2) / 2100MHz (Band 1) / AWS (Band 4) / 2600MHz (Band 7)
(my sources are http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/cell-phones/SGH-M919ZKATMB-specs and http://www.pdaplaza.ca/products/Samsung-Galaxy-S4-SGH%2dI337M-16GB--Black-Mist,-Unlocked.html - I can't seem to find a reliable source for the LTE bands the I337M has ... on samsungs website it has a * Dependent on market and nobody seems to list straight up specs for the I337M ... actually it lists a completely different set of LTE bands which I'm pretty sure is wrong ... they list 1800 instead of 1700 and 800 instead of 700 which I know is incorrect for Rogers at least)
It looks to me, like the only real difference between the I337M and the M919 is that the M919 has a AWS (1700) 3G radio band, and the I337M has a 900mhz 3G radio band instead of the AWS band ... however, I ALSO have read that the AWS band on the I337M can be enabled (again, correct me if I'm wrong!)
If everything that I have read through is correct, it would seem to me like the I337M would be the 'ultimate' North American model, supporting more frequency bands than any other version (besides maybe the i9505 which lacks some bands I would probably need) ... unless its actually possible to somehow unlock all these bands on every version, and I just didn't get that deep into reading about hacking these phones yet ...
If I got something wrong here please let me know ... I would like to buy one soon and start flashing it
Thanks!
Lets put it an easy way, if I had the choice again, I would have not got the att galaxy s4 us version, I would have got the Canadian S4 i337m. My opinion only.
Or the Google Edition but its going to run you like 700-800$
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If you're in Canada why not buy the i337m?
My i337M is completely unbranded once I installed a custom ROM and I managed to enable the AWS. Unlocking it has been a different story though :/
Well ... I just want the phone that has the most bands (its not really a cheap phone!), I'd like to get as much as I can for my money. I honestly have no idea if all the North American models have the same radio hardware or not, but at least on Samsungs website, they list the I337 (AT&T) with many less bands than the T-Mobile M919.
Funny enough, on Rogers website it lists the I337M only having 2100/2600 as the LTE bands, but on Bell/Telus it lits the I337M as having 700MHz/ 850MHz/1900MHz/2100MHz/AWS/2600MHz
It seems silly to me to actually manufacture different radio hardware for all the different North American models ... considering they almost all use the same bands except some exclude some, and there is one different one (3G AWS on M919 vs 900Mhz 3G on I337M)
I wouldn't get the AT&T US version ... as far as I know nobody has been able to unlock the bootloader. But apparently the M919 isn't locked.
I considered the Google Edition, but as someone said, it will run 700-800 (and you can't 'officially' get it in Canada)
Anyways, I found an unlocked I337M and I believe it is also unbranded ... so I bought it. If its not, I'll just flash it
I still am curious as to what they actually do with the radios though ... if they actually use different hardware or just lock the bands in the firmware (I'll take a guess the international I9505 actually has different hardware, though)
I think it would cost Samsung more to design different radio hardware for all the different North American providers (considering they almost all run the same/lots of overlapping bands) than just putting firmware locks?
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Well ... I just want the phone that has the most bands (its not really a cheap phone!), I'd like to get as much as I can for my money. I honestly have no idea if all the North American models have the same radio hardware or not, but at least on Samsungs website, they list the I337 (AT&T) with many less bands than the T-Mobile M919.
Funny enough, on Rogers website it lists the I337M only having 2100/2600 as the LTE bands, but on Bell/Telus it lits the I337M as having 700MHz/ 850MHz/1900MHz/2100MHz/AWS/2600MHz
It seems silly to me to actually manufacture different radio hardware for all the different North American models ... considering they almost all use the same bands except some exclude some, and there is one different one (3G AWS on M919 vs 900Mhz 3G on I337M)
I wouldn't get the AT&T US version ... as far as I know nobody has been able to unlock the bootloader. But apparently the M919 isn't locked.
I considered the Google Edition, but as someone said, it will run 700-800 (and you can't 'officially' get it in Canada)
Anyways, I found an unlocked I337M and I believe it is also unbranded ... so I bought it. If its not, I'll just flash it
I still am curious as to what they actually do with the radios though ... if they actually use different hardware or just lock the bands in the firmware (I'll take a guess the international I9505 actually has different hardware, though)
I think it would cost Samsung more to design different radio hardware for all the different North American providers (considering they almost all run the same/lots of overlapping bands) than just putting firmware locks?
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I337m has all the radio bands, handles the lowest CPU voltages while still being stable... has an unlocked bootloader, and simply kicks butt.
Simple modem firmware flash fixes any location specific, and in my case, non-existant radio band issue.
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I've been struggling with this issue, and google has brought me here..
I purchased a factory i9505 off ebay, doing my research regarding Canadian LTE compatibility, etc. However I did not delve deep enough in the small print. After not being able to connect onto my Bell LTE, but everything else seemingly working fine, I did some deeper digging, and found that there are specific bands on LTE that are supported/unsupported!!
Apparently the Bell runs their LTE on bands 4 and 17, while the i9505 only talks on bands 1, 5, 3, 7, 8 and 20.... who knew! lol
But now I come here, and I saw this post:
dj_aj said:
...The GT-i9505 is the international S4 that uses the qualcomm quadcore cpu which is marketed in the USA as i377 (at&t) and i377m (bell/rogers/telus) in Canada. These 2 variants don't support AWS bands out of the box, but users have shown a way to enable that on these phones.
There is also another variant of the i9505 marketed as SGH-M919 for T-Mobile in USA and SGH-M919V for Wind/Videotron in Canada. These support AWS bands out of the box and work perfectly well on all North American providers such as At&t, Rogers, Bell, Virgin Mobile, T-Mobile, etc.
Hope this helps your dilemma!
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So my question is... is there some anyone on this board who might be able to show me how I could somehow make my i9505 work with Bell LTE?
I am moderately tech saavy, and would be alright with rooting the phone with some help.
Or maybe this isn't possible?!?!
Thanks again
Have you tried this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=41738642
jd1639 said:
Have you tried this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=41738642
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Actually upon reading more carefully, I really don't think it's an AWS problem, it's a Band 4 problem.... I don't think that's the same issue, but please correct me if I'm wrong!!
Thanks, though! :good:
rich55 said:
Actually upon reading more carefully, I really don't think it's an AWS problem, it's a Band 4 and 17 problem.... I don't think that's the same issue, but please correct me if I'm wrong!!
Thanks, though! :good:
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I think you're right. The little bit of research I've done it sounds like the i9505 doesn't support lte in north America. I think your stuck with with 3g. Or you could see if you could trade it for a G version
jd1639 said:
I think you're right. The little bit of research I've done it sounds like the i9505 doesn't support lte in north America. I think your stuck with with 3g. Or you could see if you could trade it for a G version
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uhhhh, I wouldn't say that... I do believe that the i9505 will talk LTE with Rogers/Fido... just not Bell.
This is why I'm asking if I could somehow 'hack' my i9505 to talk LTE Band 4 which will get me on Bell's LTE network.
Anyone?
I just moved to a new state, where my current phone service BLOWS (Sprint).
I want the G2 but I want to try both TMO & ATT to figure out who's service is best for me.
From what I understand the TMO G2 is missing the 850 LTE band and I have no idea if I need it.
"AT&T version (D800) does not support WCDMA 1700 / T-Mobile version (D801) does not support LTE 850"
http://www.phonescoop.com/phones/phone.php?p=4216
What I gather from this wiki I should be ok... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AT&T_Mobility
So, If I get the LG G2 d801 and get it unlocked will I be able to hop networks without issue?
Tmobile d801 on ATT
Hey,
Kinda new on the forums in terms of posting but have been reading for a while.
I talked to an ATT rep today about using the unlocked tmobile d801 on att, here is his response:
"ok here is how it works, if the phone is LTE capable you can get the LTE speed but not right at first, the problem is that our system does not recognize other carriers phones, so it is difficult to get it assigned on the right speed for the device, usually we get on a data connection that does work then file a ticket to have the data speed manually altered to the right connection for the phone, because the system cant do it on its own this usually takes a week or so to get set up properly but once that is done you have the LTE"
He then looked up the specs for the tmobile d801 lg g2 and said that it does get the correct bands.
PHug said:
I just moved to a new state, where my current phone service BLOWS (Sprint).
I want the G2 but I want to try both TMO & ATT to figure out who's service is best for me.
From what I understand the TMO G2 is missing the 850 LTE band and I have no idea if I need it.
"AT&T version (D800) does not support WCDMA 1700 / T-Mobile version (D801) does not support LTE 850"
http://www.phonescoop.com/phones/phone.php?p=4216
What I gather from this wiki I should be ok... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AT&T_Mobility
So, If I get the LG G2 d801 and get it unlocked will I be able to hop networks without issue?
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Works on my TMO G2 and I get LTE. (Straight Talk AT&T)
Due to the TMO variant being possibly bootloader locked i wanted to know if Anyone know if the International version of the Samsung Galaxy S5 is FULLY compatible with TMOBILE? in other words does it have all the frequencies/bands needed to work on TMobile USA??
I came here to ask the same thing. Tmo uses 1900mhz for 3g and it supports that. I don't think it supports tmo's LTE bands though.
With the s4s there were a lot of shenanigans you could do to get the modem on other bands, since the hardware supported more. Maybe we can do that here.
edit: Looks like tmo lte might be 1900 and the SM-G900F is 1900.
edit 2: I think, ha, that 1700 is lte and 1900 is 3g.
mk262 said:
I came here to ask the same thing. Tmo uses 1900mhz for 3g and it supports that. I don't think it supports tmo's LTE bands though.
With the s4s there were a lot of shenanigans you could do to get the modem on other bands, since the hardware supported more. Maybe we can do that here.
edit: Looks like tmo lte might be 1900 and the SM-G900F is 1900.
edit 2: I think, ha, that 1700 is lte and 1900 is 3g.
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ha left me a little confused, illl probably just wait till the actual specs are confirmed on most of the S5 variants...including whats bootloader locked and whats not.
I never heard of ANY international phones being LTE compatible with the Big 4 (Verizon, ATT, Sprint, Tmobile).
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Due to the TMO variant being possibly bootloader locked i wanted to know if Anyone know if the International version of the Samsung Galaxy S5 is FULLY compatible with TMOBILE? in other words does it have all the frequencies/bands needed to work on TMobile USA??
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Try this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_LTE_networks
and this: http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=5837&c=samsung_sm-g900f_galaxy_s5_lte-a_16gb
dandroid13 said:
Try this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_LTE_networks
and this: http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=5837&c=samsung_sm-g900f_galaxy_s5_lte-a_16gb
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I am still a little confused by this - so your help is appreciated - Bottom line, is there an international version that will work with ATT LTE? From what I have been able to see none of the S5s or any phone for that matter (at least that I can see) works with ATT LTE - at least not until YOu can get 3g and 4g I think (HSPDA+
Am I wrong about this or is there an S5 varient that uses any of the LTE Bands supported by ATT:
which are: AT&T B17 = 700MHz b; B4 = AWS 1700MHz-2100MHz
Suggestions? are there any options?
mocsab said:
I am still a little confused by this - so your help is appreciated - Bottom line, is there an international version that will work with ATT LTE? From what I have been able to see none of the S5s or any phone for that matter (at least that I can see) works with ATT LTE - at least not until YOu can get 3g and 4g I think (HSPDA+
Am I wrong about this or is there an S5 varient that uses any of the LTE Bands supported by ATT:
which are: AT&T B17 = 700MHz b; B4 = AWS 1700MHz-2100MHz
Suggestions? are there any options?
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Here's a comparison of all models: http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=pdacom...=5448&id12=5876&id13=5929&id14=5865&id15=6040
The international unlocked G900F doesn't support B4 and B17.
XeoNoX said:
Due to the TMO variant being possibly bootloader locked i wanted to know if Anyone know if the International version of the Samsung Galaxy S5 is FULLY compatible with TMOBILE? in other words does it have all the frequencies/bands needed to work on TMobile USA??
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Wait til S5 Google Play edition will be released. I bet, it will work the same as S4 Google edition which is very much compatible with T-Mob and and around the world.
so will the SM-G900 be able to get LTE? friend of mine has it and at the moment he is not able to pick up LTE only 2g if we change the baseband will that make any difference?
thanks for any help
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The international unlocked G900F doesn't support B4 and B17.
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Is it possible to enable these bands? similar to what is done for S4 i337or i337M
Hope somebody might be working on it
I have G900H but does not have 1700 MHz hence cannot be used with Wind or Mobilicity.
FULLY compatible? No.
OTOH, the TMobile bootloader is not locked.
Bypass the band restrictions? e.g. as was done to enable AWS on the S3.. possibly, but that would be considerable work. And more to the point, I haven't noticed anyone pursuing that.
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fffft said:
FULLY compatible? No.
OTOH, the TMobile bootloader is not locked.
Bypass the band restrictions? e.g. as was done to enable AWS on the S3.. possibly, but that would be considerable work. And more to the point, I haven't noticed anyone pursuing that.
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Can the qcn file for s3 or s4 be used on s5 to enable AWS band?
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Can the qcn file for s3 or s4 be used on s5 to enable AWS band?
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No, they are different models and there is no way that they will have the same memory addresses.
FWIW, the TMobile version has AWS enabled, so a comparison between the 900T and say 900W8 NV would probably give you a really good idea of would need to be changed on other variants with respect to AWS.
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