I read on GSMARENA that the 8525 us version is only 850 and 1900. is that true and is there any soft hack to put 2100 (I live in Brazil and 3g with TIM is 2100 here)
I think you read that wrong.
The 8525 already supports the 2100 frequency out of the box. Thats why it works in countries like Japan.
I belive what you were reading was the US (AT&T) uses 850/1900 for its network. However the phone itself supports GSM 850 / GSM 900 / GSM 1800 / GSM 1900 / WCDMA 850 / WCDMA 1900 / WCDMA 2100
Appears to be different version for US
PsyOpWarlord said:
I think you read that wrong.
The 8525 already supports the 2100 frequency out of the box. Thats why it works in countries like Japan.
I belive what you were reading was the US (AT&T) uses 850/1900 for its network. However the phone itself supports GSM 850 / GSM 900 / GSM 1800 / GSM 1900 / WCDMA 850 / WCDMA 1900 / WCDMA 2100
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It says (and I copy and paste)
2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G Network HSDPA 2100
HSDPA 850 / 1900 - US version
Some phones have different versions for US
Every Cingular 8525, Cingular 8500 and ATT 8525 I've ever used (Mine and friends and work) have ALL supported the 2100 MHZ band.
I even searched the ATT HTC forums and all the results I've saw showed people using their 8525 in places like Japan that uses the 2100 freq without any problems. And these were all US versions.
PsyOpWarlord said:
Every Cingular 8525, Cingular 8500 and ATT 8525 I've ever used (Mine and friends and work) have ALL supported the 2100 MHZ band.
I even searched the ATT HTC forums and all the results I've saw showed people using their 8525 in places like Japan that uses the 2100 freq without any problems. And these were all US versions.
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Was in Japan last week & had no problems using my 8525 over there.
I used mine in 2100, and HSDPA work OK
Thanks for your answer
PsyOpWarlord said:
Every Cingular 8525, Cingular 8500 and ATT 8525 I've ever used (Mine and friends and work) have ALL supported the 2100 MHZ band.
I even searched the ATT HTC forums and all the results I've saw showed people using their 8525 in places like Japan that uses the 2100 freq without any problems. And these were all US versions.
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Thats the kind of answer I like to see here. Clear and objective.
(I would take of my hat to you but then it would show my bald head)
Any idea on how to get the HSDPA to work on the Cingular 8525? I have the AT&T Tilt and used the Kaiser Tweak and works perfectly. Co-worker has the 8525 but not showing up. We work about 300 feet from a cingular tower that has HSDPA because my Tilt picks it up but not his 8525.
Is there any type of setting that must be done for this to work like I had to do the Kaiser Tweak?
Thanks,
Flandrel
Hi,
I'm from Switzerland and I've to buy a new phone for my father that lives in argentina... the problem is that here the 3g frequencies standard for phones are 900 & 2100...
What are in argentina, I've seen that are 850 and 1900....
The only phone I've found for acceptable price is the samsung galaxy S that has 900/1900/2100 (no 850mhz!!!)... will this phone work???
last question is... if i've only quadband gsm and 900/2100 3g can I use internet also with slow velocity?
help please
nothing for now?
Motorola Defy ?
3G Network HSDPA 900 / 2100
HSDPA 1700 / 2100 or HSDPA 850 / 1900
Have a look at GSMArena Phone Finder - here you can tick the frequencies you like. The only phones that offer quadband UMTS for now are latest Nokias (for example C7, E6, X3-02) and Samsung Galaxy SII. If you buy a quadband GSM and 900/2100 UMTS phone you would be able to use only GSM in Argentina.
Just as the question say:
TMo SGS2 Qualcomm vs. SGS2 siblings (AT&T/Sprint) Exynos... Is it worth it?
Found this on the other forum that I found interesting, and could be a debatable topic:
The AWS (1700) bands are supported only by a handful of carriers. It doesn't exist at all in Europe and Asia. There's little reason for manufacturers to include it on their global phones as so few people use it. It's the reason the T-Mobile SGS2 has a Qualcomm chip instead of Exynos like the rest of them. After the merger, it won't even exist in the U.S. any longer as AT&T plans on using it (1700) for LTE. If you want versatility and the ability to use unlocked phones, change to AT&T.
^Even international version doesn't support T-Mobile 3g/4g (HSPA+) network.. Not many phones support their network. Or maybe it will.. but not everywhere
AT&T SGSII
2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G Network HSDPA 850 / 1900 / 2100
T-Mobile SGSII
2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G Network HSDPA 1700 / 2100
International SGSII
2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G Network HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100
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I iz da XDA usah! Vibrant baby!
So I am keeping my Nexus 4, however I am in the market for a a phone for my wife. It has to work with T-Mobile and I would love to find her a HSPA+ compatible phone, however i am really confused on how to figure this out.
For example I am looking at this phone at GSMArena:
Sony Xperia T and they say these are the bandz:
2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G Network HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1700 / 1900 / 2100
How do I know it will work with T-Mobile's HSPA+?
Any help will be appreciated.
Jess813 said:
So I am keeping my Nexus 4, however I am in the market for a a phone for my wife. It has to work with T-Mobile and I would love to find her a HSPA+ compatible phone, however i am really confused on how to figure this out.
For example I am looking at this phone at GSMArena:
Sony Xperia T and they say these are the bandz:
2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G Network HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1700 / 1900 / 2100
How do I know it will work with T-Mobile's HSPA+?
Any help will be appreciated.
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Here is a coverage map for US T-mobile http://opensignal.com/network-coverage-maps/t-mobile-coverage-map.php.
gee2012 said:
Here is a coverage map for US T-mobile http://opensignal.com/network-coverage-maps/t-mobile-coverage-map.php.
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Thanks bud, but that doesnt answer my question, I dont need to know what coverage is in my area, but more what phone is capable of using T-Mobile's HSPA+
Yes it will. T-Mobile used 1700 and 2100 for HSDPA.
Sent from my Nexus 4 using xda premium
gee2012 said:
Here is a coverage map for US T-mobile http://opensignal.com/network-coverage-maps/t-mobile-coverage-map.php.
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El Daddy said:
Yes it will. T-Mobile used 1700 and 2100 for HSDPA.
Sent from my Nexus 4 using xda premium
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Thanks EL Daddy! So if a phone lists those bands 1700/2100 that means it'll work with HSPA?
I ask because I am also looking at this phone the Xperia S and those bands are :
2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G Network HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100 - LT26i
Jess813 said:
Thanks EL Daddy! So if a phone lists those bands 1700/2100 that means it'll work with HSPA?
I ask because I am also looking at this phone the Xperia S and those bands are :
2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G Network HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100 - LT26i
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That one will probably not work as I believe you need both the 1700 & 2100 to work ( up & downlink connection).
Jess813 said:
So I am keeping my Nexus 4, however I am in the market for a a phone for my wife. It has to work with T-Mobile and I would love to find her a HSPA+ compatible phone, however i am really confused on how to figure this out.
For example I am looking at this phone at GSMArena:
Sony Xperia T and they say these are the bandz:
2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G Network HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1700 / 1900 / 2100
How do I know it will work with T-Mobile's HSPA+?
Any help will be appreciated.
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3G or UMTS is as follows;
2100 refers to Band I / IMT and is used in Europe and Asia
1900 refers to Band II / PCS and is used by AT&T in cities, and by T-Mobile (1900 migration).
1700 refers to Band IV / AWS and is used by T-Mobile (most HSPA service is still here).
850 refers to Band V / CLR and is used by AT&T in rural areas.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UMTS_frequency_bands
T-Mobile is slowly moving HSPA from 1700 to 1900 to support unlocked iPhones and free up 1700 for LTE deployment.
I would look for a phone that supports both (1700 now, 1900 future) or it may have a short life span.
Rod3 said:
That one will probably not work as I believe you need both the 1700 & 2100 to work ( up & downlink connection).
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Awesome! I see now, so in order for the phone to work on HSPA it needs both 1700/2100 bandz. AAHHHHHH SWEET! Thanks guys I made sure to hit the thanks button on both of you!
Jess813 said:
So I am keeping my Nexus 4, however I am in the market for a a phone for my wife. It has to work with T-Mobile and I would love to find her a HSPA+ compatible phone, however i am really confused on how to figure this out.
For example I am looking at this phone at GSMArena:
Sony Xperia T and they say these are the bandz:
2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G Network HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1700 / 1900 / 2100
How do I know it will work with T-Mobile's HSPA+?
Any help will be appreciated.
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Nexus 4 works great on T-mobiles HSPA+ . I regularly get 20.8 mbps down/2.5 mbps up.. and this is in a 1700/2100 mhz AWS area .. PDX area has not been refarmed to 1900mhz yet - and Nexus 4 supports both 1900 mhz HSPA+ and AWS HSPA+ - so no worries.
Jess813 said:
Awesome! I see now, so in order for the phone to work on HSPA it needs both 1700/2100 bandz. AAHHHHHH SWEET! Thanks guys I made sure to hit the thanks button on both of you!
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Just to clear up one thing. T-Mobile often refers to 2100 as the Download Frequency of AWS (Band IV), while most hardware manufactures reference 2100 as IMT (Band I). See column 2 in the wikipedia link I posted earlier.
I get both bands here in NYC (mostly AWS) and the speed is about the same on both (20 Mbps / 2.5 Mbps), but ping results are quite a bit lower on PCS.
SpookyTunes said:
Just to clear up one thing. T-Mobile often refers to 2100 as the Download Frequency of AWS (Band IV), while most hardware manufactures reference 2100 as IMT (Band I). See column 2 in the wikipedia link I posted earlier.
I get both bands here in NYC (mostly AWS) and the speed is about the same on both (20 Mbps / 2.5 Mbps), but ping results are quite a bit lower on PCS.
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Ok cool thanks for the clear up....
i think i am going with this one for T-mobile, so I should be good right?
http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_xperia_t-4899.php
I got an LG-D803 for my girlfriend but won't work on the Canada's WindMobile network which uses AWS 1700.
I saw on this website that apparently the LG-D803 doesn't have this frequency.
The site lists the D803 as:
2G Network Quad Band GSM 850/900/1900/2100
3G Network HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100
LTE Network 700MHz / 850MHz / 1900MHz / 2600MHz
Is it possible to get the phone to work or am I just out of luck?
Thanks!
Bump... Anybody?
If there's no options to enable AWS then I guess I'm going to have to sell this phone. :crying: