Blocked from updates? - Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi, I just bought the S4 off ebay and ive gone to check for updates because I heard kickkat is out and apparently the phone is modified and im blocked on updates? Is there a fix for this?
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you bought a modded phone, maybe he installed a custom rom or kernel, or maybe he just rooted
i think there is a method to revert it search around these forums, you will get the answer i assure you
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bobbycarver said:
Hi, I just bought the S4 off ebay and ive gone to check for updates because I heard kickkat is out and apparently the phone is modified and im blocked on updates? Is there a fix for this?
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Your phones software has been modified (it says custom) thus the Samsung servers will reject your device.
It may be that the phone has/was rooted and/or the ROM is heavily customized
You can restore your phone to factory conditions if you search the forums for information regarding this.
Be advised to not flash anything that will bring your phone to factory stock android 4.3 or you will or may activate KNOX which will permanently aggravate you.
Plead search the forums for more details.
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Received Android 4.3 OTA to my i9505 when using GE broodRom

This is not from broodrom and i wonder if it's safe to install it on my international gt-i9505, or will it brick?
And if I install it, will there be any different other than a new software? I mean, will I be able to flash all the roms that are flashable on the international one?
InvisibleBow said:
This is not from broodrom and i wonder if it's safe to install it on my international gt-i9505, or will it brick?
And if I install it, will there be any different other than a new software? I mean, will I be able to flash all the roms that are flashable on the international one?
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Probably best to wait, just in case. The i9505 and google edition could differ in partition layout so it may just fail or could brick. Im sure the devs will have an update ready soon.
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not just you. this guy as well:
Sirchuk said:
So I've got 4.2 installed on my T-Mobile GS4.
It's been running great, no complaints.
I just received a notice that the system update to 4.3 has been downloaded and ready to install for Google Play Editions of the GS4 and I can reboot and install.
This is, I'm assuming, the pushed download to the Google Play phones. It caught me off guard, so I don't know if I should install it, cancel, or disable the auto-updates etc.
Whats the consensus on this?
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seems like even though we don't have the GPE bootloaders, the device are able to be updated via OTA. We just don't know if it will flash correctly. gsmyth is correct, it's better safe than sorry
You're probably right.
Btw, is there any way to remove the system update notification from the notification bar?
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Nvm, I found it.
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InvisibleBow said:
Nvm, I found it.
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there are some reports that some users of t mobile using google rom received and they successfully updated.

S4 Updates, Flashing...

Hello,
I have been trying to figure out a few things with the S4 and read a lot of stuff but I have a few unanswered question.
I come from using NExus phones since Nexus 1. Unlock Phone, install CWM and then use it to flash roms or rooting scripts.
Now, I have S4. I am still with their STOCK on I337M (Canadian Model) and I rooted using CF-Auto-Root and ODIN.
What I don't understand, is:
- Can I flash CWM and then just use CWM and SuperSU-vx.xx.zip to root? Why Use Odin?
- Now that I am rooted, if I new SAMSUNG firmware comes along, I am assuming it will fail, I will have to unroot and then apply firmware and then root again? How do I unroot? "Full Unroot" from the option in the app just like the Nexus phones?
- S4 has a counter from what I read, but lot's of warning about bricking phone is that only active on Samsung stock? What if I flash a google stock?
- Can I just use Rom Manager Pro as I used to with Nexus devices...
if I flash CWM, is it replacing ODIN? Is odin a recovery like Odin! If anyone can point out and explain the difference between CWM , ODIN, Nexus phones and S4 it would be great...
I know that now when I go to download mode (Is that like fastboot?) it shows binary as being custom, but I don't get a yellow triangle when I boot...
Thanks for any info regarding explaining what ODIN is...
I also noticed although I have 16GB phone, 6.38GB is system! That is huge! Is that normal?
There are some nice features that I would not like to lose, so I stuck with samsung and just use NOVA home screen...
This is actually the "ATT Galaxy S4Active" forum. S4 forum will have answers to all your S4 questions.
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Opps will get in trouble now.. now sure if I can move it or delete amd repost..
Thanks...
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ssss25 said:
Opps will get in trouble now.. now sure if I can move it or delete amd repost..
Thanks...
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Hi,
It seems that you have been around the houses.
The place you are looking for is HERE
Thanks.. I will do some more reading to try to find answers.. looks like my post just got moved.
Thanks
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Thanks. I found a lot of info at..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2301762
Only thing I still wonder is about updates that samsung releases. It will remove root? I guess I have to wait till chainfire has a rooting script then update.
Thx.
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ssss25 said:
Thanks. I found a lot of info at..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2301762
Only thing I still wonder is about updates that samsung releases. It will remove root? I guess I have to wait till chainfire has a rooting script then update.
Thx.
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I just went through the un root because I was only using it for one thing. I ended up flashing the original ROM using Odin then doing a factory reset and cache wipe. Now waiting for the update not sure I will root until S4 is not longer updated by Samsung.
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ssss25 said:
Thanks. I found a lot of info at..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2301762
Only thing I still wonder is about updates that samsung releases. It will remove root? I guess I have to wait till chainfire has a rooting script then update.
Thx.
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Hi,
Look HERE
OTA will remove root,and the latest will lock down your bootloader.
Hi
I have AMG1... I think this is the latest one but I was able to root.. Will locking boot loader prevent rooting.. Could it be another one for at only?
Thanks
Note: yes. I did notice chainfires note.. But he doesn't say what load is the latest.. There are so many Samsung s4 models devices.. Each with different models its so confusing
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I just installed CWM on latest version of Canadian I337M AMG1... Its good so far.
Xda modder.. There are differences between i337 att and Canadian i337m.. No forum specific to the Canadian folks?
Thanks...
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N7105 4.3 upgrade UK users

Has anyone updated to 4.3 official using any of the roms from sammobile? I see the nordic countries 4.3 is available, I normally use either this, the German or Swedish version, I've even used a Hong Kong one before now lol, but with the recent changes Sammy have made regarding knox and location lock etc, I'm a bit dubious to upgrade.
They normally just work, just checking this is still the case before I end up with an expensive paperweight.
There is a thread somewhere by chainfire with a fix to sammys region lock. The lion rom is pretty much stock with nox removed, you just have to use devil's kernel for wifi
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Cheers mate but need to stay unrooted for the main apps I use.
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I have flashed mine to the nordic contries im in uk and everything works great yes it has knox but I have had no problem rooting or installing custom roms. Im on the new skynote 4.3 note 3 edition and its the best rom I have used so far
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Cheers mate. I flashed it the other day haven't got around to posting an update yet.
Yes it has knox, but I'm not going to be rooting this device because I use it for sky and a few other apps that require unrooted.
Impressions are good so far. Everything is smooth and all my apps are working as they were before, including the sky sports app which got an update recently to work with 4.3.
One thing to note though, if you use allshare cast dongle. It has a problem working with 4.3 devices that have been updated. So if you run into this issue the fix is to do a factory reset.
There is a workaround for rooted devices on here, it's in the S4 section.
A bit of a pain having to reset I know but seems to be the only solution for unrooted devices that run into it.
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Riki1kenobi said:
Cheers mate. I flashed it the other day haven't got around to posting an update yet.
Yes it has knox, but I'm not going to be rooting this device because I use it for sky and a few other apps that require unrooted.
Impressions are good so far. Everything is smooth and all my apps are working as they were before, including the sky sports app which got an update recently to work with 4.3.
One thing to note though, if you use allshare cast dongle. It has a problem working with 4.3 devices that have been updated. So if you run into this issue the fix is to do a factory reset.
There is a workaround for rooted devices on here, it's in the S4 section.
A bit of a pain having to reset I know but seems to be the only solution for unrooted devices that run into it.
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Hi mate
I'm also using the sky go app, and on stock 4.1 I've just been using ota rootkeeper to toggle root when needed. I really need root for the viper audio mod.
I'm just wondering which 4.3 ROM you've got it to work on? With 4.1.2 it NEEDS to be stock ROM and kernel for sky go to work. If I upgrade I want to get a ROM without knox, but any custom ROM won't work.
Please let me know as right I'm sticking to 4.1.2.
Thanks
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There weren't any custom rom's available for the 7105 that were stock with knox/location lock removed when I last checked (may be different now?). I just used the nordic rom from sammobile.
If there's none available I think you'll need to wait for a dev to rip the rom and remove knox if you don't want it. Unless you have the time and skills to diy I got the skills but not the time, unfortunately
As I said, I'm not bothered about knox at the moment. I was more bothered by location lock, but I've not had any issue so far.
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Lion Rom is stock deknoxed non region locked deodexed. I'm running it now it's goid
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fade2black101 said:
Hi mate
I'm also using the sky go app, and on stock 4.1 I've just been using ota rootkeeper to toggle root when needed. I really need root for the viper audio mod.
I'm just wondering which 4.3 ROM you've got it to work on? With 4.1.2 it NEEDS to be stock ROM and kernel for sky go to work. If I upgrade I want to get a ROM without knox, but any custom ROM won't work.
Please let me know as right I'm sticking to 4.1.2.
Thanks
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I don't know if this will work on skygo as I don't have sky but its worth a try
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2574647
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sawdoctor said:
I don't know if this will work on skygo as I don't have sky but its worth a try
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2574647
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Thanks for the tip mate
Will give it a go when I'm back from work and let you know
Why not just flash the bootloader from DN3 it works with all the official roms and is knox free?
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Why not just flash the bootloader from DN3 it works with all the official roms and is knox free?
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Yeah I will probably do that at some point.
I'm assuming I can restore my nandroid backup to 4.1.2 if I'm not happy?
The xposed mod unfortunately didn't work... Thanks anyway
Some apps are funny as to what they decide is a security risk. Sky are so far up Apple's arse they tend to look for anything that's NOT as the manufacturer released as a security issue. It's actually bollocks but try telling them that.
My other Note 2 is rooted and running 4.3 without all the bs. But most of the apps I need simply won't install/run due to idiotic requirements of the app provider. Hence why I have a 2nd note 2 which has been rooted but I had to unroot and reset the flash counter to get these apps to work. Guess Sammy aren't too fussed, they did get 2 sales from me lol
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Android 4.4 uk

Anybody heard any news about when to expect the kitkat update in the UK?
Cant get an answer from samsung on facebook.
Thanks
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sweatingmytittsoff said:
Anybody heard any news about when to expect the kitkat update in the UK?
Cant get an answer from samsung on facebook.
Thanks
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you can get it now if you want just go to www.sammobile.com download flash with odin done
Yeah i dont fancy tripping knox flashing it with doin though I'd rather wait for the UK version
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You won't trip knox by installing it through odin
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sweatingmytittsoff said:
Yeah i dont fancy tripping knox flashing it with doin though I'd rather wait for the UK version
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it wont tripp knox and as your in uk knox dont matter we are void from knox some law
Ah right I thought using odin would trip knox, will I not need to update my bootloader in order to install the Polish firmware?
Also will i be able to revert back to the UK firmware once it has been released?
Thanks guys
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sweatingmytittsoff said:
Ah right I thought using odin would trip knox, will I not need to update my bootloader in order to install the Polish firmware?
Also will i be able to revert back to the UK firmware once it has been released?
Thanks guys
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yes you have to get bootloader and when uk comes out you might have to flash again with odin
http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/update-gal...id-4-4-2-kitkat-official-firmware-how-1433140
heres the update if you want to do it
but you cant go back to 4.3 and ive read 4.4.2 is a bit buggy
Maybe that's why they haven't rolled it out in other countries yet, I will probably just wait then because I use my note 3 as my daily driver so I'd rather it was 100%
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TechRadar website:
"Samsung UK will announce rollout plans for Android 4.4 in due course."
so,i think....soon
freszu said:
TechRadar website:
"Samsung UK will announce rollout plans for Android 4.4 in due course."
so,i think....soon
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sweet :fingers-crossed:
I'm on Vodafone in the UK and have kit kat, works fine and hasn't tripped my knox. .. enjoy..
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hypnodaz said:
I'm on Vodafone in the UK and have kit kat, works fine and hasn't tripped my knox. .. enjoy..
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same for me,only thing that don't work is sky sports mobile
there is no need to install a different bootloader
I chose the Spotify package and can confirm that it works fine. .when I first flashed I had a Samsung keyboard issue, but did a full factory reset and it's gone now..also rooted and cwm recovery installed with no issues..
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I have a note 3 locked to 3 carrier..if I download the leaked update and flash it using Odin (my fone is not rooted) will it cause any problems?
Since my fone is carrier locked and 3 haven't pushed an update yet.
Thanks in advance
P.s I'm a total noon at flashing so sorry in advance for dumb questions.
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pac-mannan said:
I have a note 3 locked to 3 carrier..if I download the leaked update and flash it using Odin (my fone is not rooted) will it cause any problems?
Since my fone is carrier locked and 3 haven't pushed an update yet.
Thanks in advance
P.s I'm a total noon at flashing so sorry in advance for dumb questions.
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I think it is not a 100% safe thing to try to update a carrier-locked Note3 - given that you also do not have a lot of experience I would suggest waiting a little more (and in the meantime reading in the many threads around and searching for somobody else with a carrier-locked Note 3 from the same 3 UK carrier).
You can get a free unlock code from three, got mine installed polish kit kat no problems.
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Just to mention that some 3rd party apps still require updates from developers to work on 4.4 so if you don't mind waiting a month or two this should also give them time too.
So if I get it unlocked, then its OK to flash the official update?
Basically I just want yo know the effect of flashing an official ROM on a carrier locked fone.
Yeah I've been reading the threads so I know how to flash it using Odin.just wanted to know will it be OK or will my fone go KU-KU
Sorry if I'm eating your brains
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You can flash even if it's network locked. It will stay network locked... But won't be a problem. You can also get your phone unlocked free from three.
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You will loose root unless you use mobile odin with the keep root feature, and boot into download, then flash the bootloader. I don't think there's a de la vega style root on 4.4.

AT&T Kitkat update

I hope somebody can help me with this. My question concerns 2 S4s. One is rooted while the other is completely virgin stock. The rooted s4 won't even allow me to check for an update no matter how many times I try. The stock s4 will check but always says it's up to date. What can I do to fix this? I'm more concerned about the stock s4 since the update will break my root on the other. But I would be curious if there's an explanation as to why the rooted s4 is doing what it's doing.
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LWH.31752 said:
I hope somebody can help me with this. My question concerns 2 S4s. One is rooted while the other is completely virgin stock. The rooted s4 won't even allow me to check for an update no matter how many times I try. The stock s4 will check but always says it's up to date. What can I do to fix this? I'm more concerned about the stock s4 since the update will break my root on the other. But I would be curious if there's an explanation as to why the rooted s4 is doing what it's doing.
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The root won't let you check probably because of the modified system. For the other one, it's known that AT&T's OTA is kinda buggy and you pretty much need a full strength WiFi and cell network connection.
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Great info. I'll try it out . Thanks.
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