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Who will provide the official firmware upgrades to consumers ?

Sorry if this was asked before...
I am about to buy an imported Nexus One, I will use it on a GSM carrier in another country (google doesn't sell it here).
In the future, when there will be an official firmware update available, who be will providing it to consumers ? Is it Google, HTC, or only the official carriers like T-Mobile ? Will I be able to download it somewhere, or will I unable to upgrade without voiding the warranty ?
Thanks

you will most likely be able to manualy update by downloading and installing it your self.

htc will look at the official site

It will be FOTA...

How does OTA updates work, technically ? Does it need a special cooperation of my service provider or is it via any internet connection ?
I remember the OTA updates for the G1 needed to be pushed by the service provider, and if your carrier doesn't want you to have the update, you'd never have it. I hope it's not like that for an unlocked phone but I haven't found any info anywhere about that.

This is what I know + my personal logic: an ota is data so its going to be over your internet. And your provider will have to allow it. For those with tmo obviously otas come no problem, tmo expects to push them for google. I've never gotten one I'm always too impatient and I do it manually. So you'll receive it through your data connection but the always available alternative is to manually update it. The point is, even if a carrier prevents it from transmitting, it'll end up online and you will be able to get and install it. And it doesn't require rooting or any special level of knowledge in my opinion.

What about for those who TMO has no idea that we are currently running this phone? Will the OTA still be available?
Thanks

Yes every firmware update so far has turned up on the web to be installed manually. I don't anticipate the next update to be any different in that regard. It isn't google or a carrier but smart consumers who have received the ota and are nice enough to put it on the internet for public consumption

DMaverick50 said:
Yes every firmware update so far has turned up on the web to be installed manually. I don't anticipate the next update to be any different in that regard. It isn't google or a carrier but smart consumers who have received the ota and are nice enough to put it on the internet for public consumption
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I was prompted by by N1 to check for updates and did so OTA via the phone.

On the google forum, one of the google employees said that the phone can check a google server for updates, and then you can choose to download over wifi or 3G, and install.
unfortunately the forum won't let me post an external link... so I can't show you the thread

post the link please
you can just add some space in the URL , or just remove the ht from h t t p . we can understand it .
the information is important.

h t tp ://www.google.com/support/forum/p/android/thread?tid=24211ae486d5b412&hl=en
note that this response was chosen as best response by a google employee

Anyone else think Samsung Kies is a little retarded sometimes?

I have to unplug and replug sometimes to get my tablet to pick up... it might take a few times, it might be instant. I have this issue on both my laptop and desktop... and with both my Note 10 and my Tab2 7.0... would like to know if there is a 'fix', but just seems like it's so finnicky.
Doesn't seem to let me to look at the contents of the tab without Kies being loaded either.

Everyone has thought this since forever.
Kies blows.

I just find Kies looking a lot like a knock off of iTunes...

Yes
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Kies should be renamed Krap since that would be a more appropriate name. I try and avoid it if at all possible.

Totally unreliable

As i understand removal of Kies and OTa updates is part of XDA Developers membership terms .
jje

JJEgan said:
As i understand removal of Kies and OTa updates is part of XDA Developers membership terms .
jje
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Kies update itself more often than you had hot dinners. Every time I start it it has to update and not many updates for connected devices. I use S2, S3 & Note 10.1:laugh:

Are you guys using the latest version?
It has a ton of new features including a "lite" mode that's not as resource intensive. For N8000 users they also completley re-wrote Kies Air so that you can now view your call logs from your device on your PC as well send and receive text messages from your PC using your device's MMS feature.
The U.S. site usually has different versions of Kies. If your isn't the latest you can download it from the Samsung Korea site using the link below then clicking on the button outlined in the red box.
http://www.samsung.com/sec/support/pcApplication/KIES

Latest version of Kies has worked really good for me and I'm using it with 6 different devices
2 -Note10.1s
3 Galaxy S3s
1- GTab2 7"
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Yeah they've posted quite a few updates since I've started using it. I will check to see if there is a new one... but I dunno... I'm skeptical lol. I'm in the U.S., but my version is in Japanese, so I don't know if that matters...

Going to try the upgraded version. The old one i have not open for more then 2 times.haha

I hate kies anyway , i use mobilego app and its awsome and i can plug any android device

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I hate kies anyway , i use mobilego app and its awsome and i can plug any android device
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Poor Kies always gets a bad wrap but it's got some pretty cool features. Have any of you tried Kies Air? You can basically access and control all the content on your device via a browser. I use it to listen to music from my device over my PC's speakers.
For N8000 users, this was introduced in the latest version and it's awesome. A mini-Kies app sits in the system tray and when you turn Kies Air on via your device it automatically connects. If your device receives a call or MMS it appears on your PC. You can also use your PC to send MMS messages via your device. Quite handy.

It's utter rubbish.
And the way Samsung implemented their MTP service on the Note also sucks.
I'm constantly having to uninstall and reinstall the drivers to get the PC to see it as a device.
And Kies rarely connects reliably.
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BarryH_GEG said:
Poor Kies always gets a bad wrap but it's got some pretty cool features. Have any of you tried Kies Air? You can basically access and control all the content on your device via a browser. I use it to listen to music from my device over my PC's speakers.
For N8000 users, this was introduced in the latest version and it's awesome. A mini-Kies app sits in the system tray and when you turn Kies Air on via your device it automatically connects. If your device receives a call or MMS it appears on your PC. You can also use your PC to send MMS messages via your device. Quite handy.
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I think that's been there since 4.0.4 - at least it was on my 8013 before I did the German 4.1.1 update...
It is pretty cool... which leads to the obvious question: if Samsung can make something as cool as Kies Air - why is Kies Desktop so sucky?

Never use KIES... I can transfer songs, movies and other things to and from the pc using the note like a portable drive... I have CWM to backup my install.
The only thing I've ever used KIES for is the USB drivers and I can get those now anyway....

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Samsung logic is mind blowing
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International Tab A with S Pen

Found someone selling the international version of the Galaxy Tab A with the S Pen, model is SM-P585 for $160 and got him down to $130, haven't looked at it yet so don't know if it's in a different language or not, and obviously no warranty. But looks like it's the LTE model, won't be using it. Said it came from Korea, looking at the specs between the US version and Korean version looks the same except the Korean version has 32 gigs of ram vs 16. Only thing that worries me are updates down the road and compatibility with the app store. Will certain apps not load if it sees it as an international version?

hard to say
i did exactly what you are contemplating.
The unit i received boots and works fine via wifi. It does not work on wireless (cellular) networks, even though it has valid SIM card installed. Which is why i'm here, since i am going to try to flash firmware of a different region that has compatible bandplans to where i am. I've researched all that info on the web, and have chosen a "most likely" candidate.
The firmware it arrived with seems to be Singapore and Vietnam based. I'm going to try to flash Malaysian firmware and see what happens.
FWIW, the device will not upgrade via the built in upgrade option (in settings). It returns an error. Current android V 5.0, but i know htere is valid 6.0 firmware available. (which is what i'm going to flash).
I have verified using "System info for android " app, that it sees a network, but is simply not connecting. the curious thing about the situation is, that although the tablet will not connect to the cellular network, it does show the onscreen icon for network strength (which is very strong, 4 or 5 bars). So the device is recognizing a signal, but will not connect. I have used sim cards from several carriers, and "scanned" networks" which gives a list of expected locally available networks, but the device will not connect to any of them.
If anyone reading this has any ideas, i'm happy to hear them.

Good to know thanks. I don't plan on using it for the cellular part just WiFi, don't want to spend money on a data plan. I did find several sites that had marshmallow but you had to use odin I believe. Also found this thread incase it helps you.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-tab-a/help/sm-p585-flashing-firmware-variant-t3498225

I had the Tab A 8.0 with S Pen (SM-P355) the international version capable of making phone calls. I don't think it was ever sold in the US. I had no problems loading any apps from the Play store, including banking apps and others that were regional or required authentication, like Uber.
The last version I received (before cracking my screen) was 6.0, pushed via OTA update.

Cant receive calls

hello guys. Im from portugal and i installed android N from england in my s7e.
the thing is, since i did that, 90% of the times someone calls me, goes directly to my voicemail. when i try to call someone, its like, it unlocks my calls and i receive the messages of everyone that tryed to call me. i dont know what is going on :s
thank you guys

What carrier are you with?
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And what firmware did you install, exactly? Go into Settings, About Phone, am am looking for both the base and version and Build Number.
A screen shot would probably save time, if you don't want to type all of it out.
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joe.skelly said:
What carrier are you with?
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And what firmware did you install, exactly? Go into Settings, About Phone, am am looking for both the base and version and Build Number.
A screen shot would probably save time, if you don't want to type all of it out.
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MY carrier is meo, but my phone is unlocked

joe.skelly said:
What carrier are you with?
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And what firmware did you install, exactly? Go into Settings, About Phone, am am looking for both the base and version and Build Number.
A screen shot would probably save time, if you don't want to type all of it out.
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here it is

The only thing left to check is that the CSC and related stuff updated when it flashed. KNOX Status Samsung (Found on the Play Store) can display this information.
If it all updated correctly, it should look like this:
Device: Galaxy S7 Edge
Model number: SM-G935F
Android version: 7.0 (Nougat)
Android security patch level: January 1, 2017
Baseband version: G935FXXU1DQB1
Kernel version: 3.18.31-10422490
Build number: NRD90M.G935FXXU1DQB3
AP: G935FXXU1DQB3
CP: G935FXXU1DQB1
CSC: G935FOXA1DQB1
Release date: January 7, 2017
The big one should be the CSC, your country code. G935F "OXA" is the country code for the UK, G935F "MEO" is Portugal. Looking around, on an unlocked phone, the CSC being incorrect may cause issues.
If everything looks like it does posted above, then you might have to wipe and reload it. G935FXXU1DPLT is the UK 7.0 original firmware, G935FXXU1DQB3 is the update. Maybe try loading the DPLT first and see if that helps?
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Speaking strictly from a cellular tower perspective, it sounds like your phone isn't either properly transmitting it's registration request, or the command channel isn't being received correctly.
If it's not staying registered on a tower, the cellular system has no idea where your phone is, assumes it's off or out of range, and goes directly to your voicemail.
The firmware & Samsung S7 phones for the UK use the same type of GSM (2G)/UMTS (3G)/LTE (4G) frequencies as Portugal Samsung S7 phones, the control channels might be different. When your phone isn't being used (no data is transmitting, screens off, etc), your phone is trying to talk to your cellular providers towers. It's very low data, low usage talking, but it's how the system knows where you are.
If the radio channel that your phone uses to tell the network where you are is talking to the wrong channel, then you get missed calls. Some of this programming may be programmed into the firmware itself.
When something makes your data connection kick in, it re-registers with the tower, and that's when you get your voicemail notifications and such.
When you load a different county / region's firmware, especially a completely upgraded one like Android 7, you always run the risk that the basic phone functions won't work properly.

I checked in the app that you said, and it looks like you said. The storage thing is that the Phone is always connected to the tower, the 3g is always connected and im always usina the Internet. http://cloud.tapatalk.com/s/58b68f13d9156/Screenshot_20170301-090511.png?
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Sorry for the necro bump, but I have scoured the internet looking for an answer to this issue, which sounds exactly like mine.
I have this issue using a Verizon branded s7 Edge with official US Nougat firmware on Total Wireless. Everything works fine on Android 6.0.1, but any Android N 7.x official Samsung firmware I use calls will go directly to Voicemail upon rebooting the device. It also says searching for service, data works, and I can make a call. As soon as I make a call everything corrects itself and the phone will work perfectly until I reboot again.

Is my wifi chip dead? No wifi or bluetooth - Fire Tablet 10 2017 Edition

Hi guys,
I have a 2017 Amazon Fire Tablet 10 (only a few weeks old) and think I've bricked it. Yesterday the wifi went off and I had to restart 3 times before it came back. When I say it went off, I mean the wifi was stuck on "turning on wifi" and no networks appeared in the list. As for the bluetooth, in the menu, I can't tap it at all; it's greyed out. If I swipe down and tap wifi, again it just says "turning on wifi", and if I go to the wifi menu from settings it won't let me even turn it on.
Yesterday while speaking to amazon, they told me to do a factory reset, now I'm stuck on the initial setup screen as it's asking me to connect to wifi to setup the device, but no networks are there. And now I've reset it, I've missed my chance to enable adb debugging to try and root or reset stock recovery.
It sounds like the chip is dead due to no bluetooth or wifi, so does anyone have ANY suggestions please? Amazon said as I'm in warranty they'd replace with a refurbished product, but I was given this as a new gift, so wanted to try and fix my new one first. Otherwise, I'll go for the refurb because the person who bought me the tablet lives a great distance away, so would be a pain to ask them to exchange the item.
Thanks in advance..

Short of putting it in the oven for a while to reflow any chip connections, it's much simpler to get an exchange. Hopefully you get an OS version you can still root
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I feel like the HD 10 2017 has a very cheap wifi chip. at least 1-3 times per day wifi stops working and it takes about 3 minutes to work again, while my other devices (OnePlus 5) still work fine with the 2.4GHz band

Thanks guys. I am getting a replacement but they're letting me keep the original one so was hoping to try and refurb it, but unsure where the WiFi chip is, taken a look inside but can't identify it.

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Thanks guys. I am getting a replacement but they're letting me keep the original one so was hoping to try and refurb it, but unsure where the WiFi chip is, taken a look inside but can't identify it.
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wow they send you a free replacement and you still get to keep the old one? that's good news! I mean it is still useable even though wifi isn't working...
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btw have you tried resetting it via adb sideload and flash a completely new firmware?

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wow they send you a free replacement and you still get to keep the old one? that's good news! I mean it is still useable even though wifi isn't working...
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btw have you tried resetting it via adb sideload and flash a completely new firmware?
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They let me keep the old one because in order to get the replacement I had to endure 4 online chats where the previous staff member passed me through to someone else without updating them so I had to repeat myself over and over. Then they called me on the phone and I spent 3 hours speaking to multiple people (again no information was passed on), and at the end of it, there was also 19 emails (literally) added to the case. I lost my whole weekend trying to sort something which should have been "your tablet is broke, we can't fix it, we'll send a replacement", so they let me keep it as a good gesture, not that I can do anything with it.
Yes I tried sideloading the latest firmwhere using adb but no change. I also got an Ethernet adapter but that didn't work (it worked on my galaxy s6 & Fire TV), but the adapter also didn't work on my new working Fire 10 tablet, so I guess that's related to the adapter not compatible with the Amazon Fire HD 10. I'm wondering whether a usb wifi adapter would work, but can't find one which seems android plug and play compatible. And if anyone knows if the wireless chip is separate or attached to the motherboard, that'd help if anyone knows?

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They let me keep the old one because in order to get the replacement I had to endure 4 online chats where the previous staff member passed me through to someone else without updating them so I had to repeat myself over and over. Then they called me on the phone and I spent 3 hours speaking to multiple people (again no information was passed on), and at the end of it, there was also 19 emails (literally) added to the case. I lost my whole weekend trying to sort something which should have been "your tablet is broke, we can't fix it, we'll send a replacement", so they let me keep it as a good gesture, not that I can do anything with it.
Yes I tried sideloading the latest firmwhere using adb but no change. I also got an Ethernet adapter but that didn't work (it worked on my galaxy s6 & Fire TV), but the adapter also didn't work on my new working Fire 10 tablet, so I guess that's related to the adapter not compatible with the Amazon Fire HD 10. I'm wondering whether a usb wifi adapter would work, but can't find one which seems android plug and play compatible. And if anyone knows if the wireless chip is separate or attached to the motherboard, that'd help if anyone knows?
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the fire hd usb otg featuer is very weak becaus of the cheap hardware, I doubt that it would work

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the fire hd usb otg featuer is very weak becaus of the cheap hardware, I doubt that it would work
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I thought that as it didn't even work with my new tablet. I think short of replacing the WiFi chip, it's dead.