I have a Droid X on 4.0.4 and I am trying to connect to sprintpcs for data only. Sprintpcs is a CDMA network that is used for "internet on the go" I took the MID, MDN and address from the wireless card but I am baffled with the PRL part. The card is a novtell wireless card. How will I set my phone to use sprintpcs cdms network?
You won't.... Sprint would need to put the phones ESN in the system. And in which they WONT As it's not a sprint device.
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You're forgetting the ESN, which it goes by. You might see if there are some Sprint MVNOs that you could add the ESN to (I think Ting is one).
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You're forgetting the ESN, which it goes by. You might see if there are some Sprint MVNOs that you could add the ESN to (I think Ting is one).
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I got that, i tried to do it and i connected to thier towers now, when i call it says to conntact customer serviec, and their is no internet...
Done...
I'm finshed with this, i can't connect to the internet since the spc password isn't avlaible. i dont have the right settings. Tape is a Much easier solution.
How did you get them to add the ESN?
no legal way to change
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can this be done.. i live in a country that doesn't have that phone and i was thinking of buying it from the US through Sprint.. but will i be able to unlock it and use it on my country?? does it support SIM or not?
Why not use a HTC-HERMES
You would be better off getting a HTC-HERMES based phone. most of the US phones that are EVDO-based can't be unlocked to my knowledge. The HTC TyTN 3G Phone is better every which way than the PPC6700. I've demo'ed both units and I really like the new Hermes over the 6700. Not to mention that sprint is the one of the *worse* US celluar companies out there
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In a conversation with a verizon rep a few months ago, I learned that, while not advertised, it is technically possible to activate sprint phones on the verizon network. they would need the MSL (master subsidy lock) code and a second unlock code. The MSL is needed to program the phone with the phone number itself. The second code is used for deeper device programming so that it would work on other networks. keep in mind that the rep said that it is technically possible and could not point to actual instances where it had been done.
on a side note...I think that sprint uses only one frequency mode, while say...verizon uses two frequency modes (but the one sprint uses is the same one verizon uses for voice and data on evdo phones).
my understanding is that another carrier will have to add the ESN of the sprint phone to the ESN block of their phones, which is something that may be difficult to do...you would probably have to find some kind, knowledgeable rep to do this for you.
No Verizon
I'm using verizon wireless now. Before using verizon, Please read the following:
* Not only does Verizon limit the type of "unlimited" use, it imposes a quota on "unlimited" use, and terminates customers who exceed it. According to the Washington Post.[6], Broadband Reports[7], tech columnist Robert X. Cringely, many wireless industry "insider" news sites[8],[9], and countless blogs[10]; Verizon advertises "unlimited" broadand service but automatically terminates anyone using more than 5G/month (166M/day), no matter what they use the service for. This is a quota of about 15 minutes of actual data transmission time... for an "unlimited" use account. A PBS investigator monitored his bandwidth during normal use and discovered it to be 184M/day[11]. .
Taken from: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Verizon_Wireless
This is very tue of verizon. Does anyone know if this is gonna change anytime soon?
You can get the MSL (unlock) code from the Apache by using Bitpim. Check this post:
http://ppc6700users.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1640&start=15
It worked for me on a Qwest phone. Sprint still wouldn't activate it for me though.
no SIM but you can now change ur ESN see here.
~Mike
after my post above, I tried a few things...
here's what you would need to do :
change your esn (you will need your msl) to an esn that is in the block of the target carrier (hint, buy a cheap or give-a-way) change your esn, make sure that you calculate a checksum (there are instructions and programs all over the internet on how to change your esn). program your phone with your number: ##<your msl here># and type in your 10-digit phone number. don't worry about the dec or hex, just change the esn and program your number.
From Assoicated Press - Spring Nextel Agrees to Unlock Phones
I think its going to get a little bit easier, check this out:
http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5jPBoupMPJ6Tl4jgQ5aG0f8-R9KEgD8SH61A80
I'll start a new thread to make sure it gets seen
You CAN NOT use a CDMA phone on a GSM network. They are completely different signals. You can unlock a Sprint phone and force it onto Verizon. You can't force a Verizon phone onto Sprint, unless you know someone inside that doesn't mind losing their job.
Again, CDMA phones ONLY work on CDMA networks such as Verizon or Sprint.
Does anyone know if an unlocked 8525 will work on Verizons network? I've been using it on Alltel and Verizon bought them out now they want me to get a new phone. Sure hate to give this one up.
If the sim unlock has been run the there should be no reason why not...
Mind you I'm in Australia...
Cheers...
CDMA vs GSM
I went back and forth on this one. (and Welcome!!!!!)
Verizon here in the states is a CDMA (EVDO) system that doesn't use sim cards, GSM systems does. This relates to how your phone communicates on the network. Now willl a GSM phone work on a CDMA network, i think that it will. The SIM card in GSM phones supply the network with your PIM to access the network, it is tied entirely to the network not the phone. CDMA requires action from the carrier, and your access to the network is tied to phone not the network. You deactivate one phone first, then activate the second. You'll probably need to supply your IMEI to verizon and they'll load your access. Just a guess though, cause I've been with cingular/at&t since i carried around backpack sized mobile phones.
Does anyone know better?
As far as I know of, no. I don't believe it has a radio for the CDMA. Although you state you have used it on Alltel which I thought was CDMA...
What reason did they give for wanting you to get a new phone?
I brought Sprint Hero which BAD ESN from ebay. I understand it is unable to activate on Sprint. Currently, I am trying to use it with other carrier but there is no signal(marked X). I have checked network status by using CDMA workshop, it show "offline mode" and state show "entering CDMA network". Comparing to my old one, it show different. Can anyone help me to fix this? is this about activation? But i have changed ESN.
Don't know why but when I hear bad esn I always think "stolen". Anways Hopefully all you did is change the esn. Did you put a new prl in there? That is a must try that and see how it goes. What carrier did you put it on? If you get The settings in there correctly and it's not a well known apn post please.
I'm trying to use it with CDMA 800 Cellular (Thailand). I have change prl to the one support my carrier. (Verizon and Alltel include SID/NID of my carrier to their PRL). I thought it's because hero200 is only support PCS. After several searching, it seems heo200 support on both PCS and Cellular. IF it is incorrect, please suggest. Verizon phone can get signal here. I have seen the BB tour working when change network to 1x. it got a signal marked with 1x sign.
By the way, i am in Belgium. i bring the working one which is samsung here. Off-cause no signal as i know that there is no CDMA network. But what i want to check is the status in CDMA workshop and the status doesn't show offline mode which is different from Sprint Hero(Always show offline mode). I start thinking that something wrong which my sprint hero that why ex-owner what to sell it. Hope somebody can find the way out for me.
I manged to buy an htc evo 4g from the us. Ofcourse I didin't know the phone was a sim free phone!=) Aniway..
Norway have all the net htc evo 4g needs to work accept 4g..
cdma,edge,turbo 3g,3g...(3gs) cdma 200 1rtt...
The problem is the sim card..but I refuse to think there isint't one guy here at the xda that cant mix something up!
Some how possible to like use a sim card reader and install the sim card in the phone some how..
after some reseach i understood the the sim card holds information that connect the phone to its operator as for me (telenor norway) so its possible to ring, send sms and mms.
so teoretlic it has to bee possible at least i hope..
really hope for some positive answer
Just to let you know, for CDMA it's not a SIM card, it's a RIM card.
Anyway I think let this be a lesson to you that CDMA phones sold in the States are NOT RIM-replaceable. Only a few countries in the world that will let you do that.
Your best bet? Well, if you know anybody that works for your CDMA provider, he/she maybe able to manually add the ESN into their network and... well, it's just way too much hassle. AAA Keys, provisioning and such...
Sadly I don't think it'll work in Norway. I've seen ppl made the Evo to work for China Unicom (Only CDMA provider there) with a LOT, I mean A LOT of work just to get the 1xRTT functions such as voice calls and such to work. No data... YET because they haven't figured a way out to change the AAA key.
As for 4G/WiMax? Well, not going to happen unless your country decided to use that technology. Most likely LTE will be used instead of WiMax, knowing rest of the Europe relies on GSM systems more than CDMA.
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Telenor norway provide cdma so what you are sayng is that this is possible for the operator to mix som up(even thou it is to muchtrouble..).. but then again there would bee problem for htc evo 4g because its not rim card replaceble?
this vpn thing in the phone.. what is that for? is that for the wimax only?
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Telenor norway provide cdma so what you are sayng is that this is possible for the operator to mix som up(even thou it is to muchtrouble..).. but then again there would bee problem for htc evo 4g because its not rim card replaceble?
this vpn thing in the phone.. what is that for? is that for the wimax only?
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Well it's not, not replaceable per se, it's part of the phone. See in other countries where using RIM on CDMA phone is practiced, the ESN is part of the RIM card. Just like MSID on the SIM card for GSM (correct me if I'm wrong). Imagine it's a GSM phone but the SIM card is permanently part of it.
So what you have to do is ask your provide to ADD your phone's ESN onto their network so it can be used onto the system. However that only solves the 1xRTT (voice and text), in terms of data (EvDO), it'll be harder due to the AAA key and such. Your provider is the one that makes the final decision.
As for 4G/WiMax? Well I don't think there is any WiMax network rolled out in your country. Even if there are, it'll need further tinkering due to preset configuration in the phone's WiMax part.
VPN has nothing to do with WiMax. VPN is an application and WiMax is a protocol.
Anyway good luck trying to adding your Evo to your provider! It won't be easy but it's do-able.
hmm okay you sound like a really smart guy!
so for the phone to wokr I need the esn number and what more?
if you could just list what I need in that type of thing, if you understand me right
and maybe how I could find those thing. like how can I find the esn number in the phone.. I google it. I saw that its illegal to change the esn number so therefor it really hard to find a way to see it. but since Iam not gonna change annything + my htc evo 4g isent locked to any operator I guess i can do what ever i want?
thank you for responding I find your answers very helpfull!
imei and imsi
now I found something interesting that I wonder if it will work
I have a htc hero with a si card in it. And there I can see the imei number.
the htc evo 4g has a IMSI number.. Both looks the samme to me couldn't I just change IMSI number on the htc evo 4g with the IMEI number That it shows in my htc hero?
and then ofcourse add the esn number to my operator network.. wouldint everything works just fine then?
I have a SGH-I337 (AT&T) that I'm trying to get to work with a Verizon sim. I followed the steps in the post below.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/gal...aranteed-free-sim-unlock-mk2-nb1-nc1-t2852979
I follow the steps as stated but at the end the phone has no signal/loses signal using Verizon sim's.
Usually after a fresh boot, the phone will have bars but no data and cannot make calls. The phone states EMERGENCY CALLS ONLY at this point. After a few minutes the service bars will disappear and be replaced with a NO SERVICE indicator.
The phone no longer indicates an invalid sim, but does not auto load APN settings. Manually inputting the Verizon APN settings does not fix it either.
I have checked and it does NOT show the NULL IMEI on the *#06#. Also with the Verizon sim the hidden menus don't always function (*#0011# and such) although I've read that is an AT&T only thing, I'm not sure if that true.
When I insert an AT&T Sim it gets service/data immediately upon booting. I've also tried two different Verizon sim cards.
Thoughts or Suggestions? What am I missing?
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I have a SGH-I337 (AT&T) that I'm trying to get to work with a Verizon sim. I followed the steps in the post below.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/gal...aranteed-free-sim-unlock-mk2-nb1-nc1-t2852979
I follow the steps as stated but at the end the phone has no signal/loses signal using Verizon sim's.
Usually after a fresh boot, the phone will have bars but no data and cannot make calls. The phone states EMERGENCY CALLS ONLY at this point. After a few minutes the service bars will disappear and be replaced with a NO SERVICE indicator.
The phone no longer indicates an invalid sim, but does not auto load APN settings. Manually inputting the Verizon APN settings does not fix it either.
I have checked and it does NOT show the NULL IMEI on the *#06#. Also with the Verizon sim the hidden menus don't always function (*#0011# and such) although I've read that is an AT&T only thing, I'm not sure if that true.
When I insert an AT&T Sim it gets service/data immediately upon booting. I've also tried two different Verizon sim cards.
Thoughts or Suggestions? What am I missing?
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I don't own any Verizon phones myself, so I could be totally wrong but:
- Verizon's SIM cards are just for data.
- Verizon uses CDMA (Your subscriber identity is in the ESN/IMEI)
- AT&T uses GSM (Your subscriber identity is in the SIM)
Both networks require you to authenticate yourself with your subscriber identity before they will give you data access.
Sounds like Verizon doesn't have your IMEI, so the phone fails to authenticate/connect.
Try calling Verizon, tell them you got a new phone, and you would like to tell them the IMEI of the new one, so that it can connect to data services.
Either that or they need the number off the Verizon SIM
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I don't own any Verizon phones myself, so I could be totally wrong but:
- Verizon's SIM cards are just for data.
- Verizon uses CDMA (Your subscriber identity is in the ESN/IMEI)
- AT&T uses GSM (Your subscriber identity is in the SIM)
Both networks require you to authenticate yourself with your subscriber identity before they will give you data access.
Sounds like Verizon doesn't have your IMEI, so the phone fails to authenticate/connect.
Try calling Verizon, tell them you got a new phone, and you would like to tell them the IMEI of the new one, so that it can connect to data services.
Either that or they need the number off the Verizon SIM
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I really do hope it's this simple. I'll try it tomorrow and let you know if it works.
I've never heard of a gsm phone working on cdma. Is it even possible?
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I've never heard of a gsm phone working on cdma. Is it even possible?
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Me neither, but maybe since its unlocked? Plus it has an IMEI for Verizon to use...
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Me neither, but maybe since its unlocked? Plus it has an IMEI for Verizon to use...
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It should be able to work with CDMA. I've seen the option in some of the menu's I've been through. And the guides have all said that they can work between AT&T and Verizon/T-Mobile or vice versa.
Also, AT&T will unlock the phone for you if you go to their website and fill out the stuff. The only reason I didn't do this is because I'm still under contract and I would have to break that and pay the early termination fee.