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Hi All,
I was wondering if I could use my unlocked 8525 with Verizon's net work if I switched to them? I'm not sure about compatability of the phone with Verizon's voice and data services and was wondering if anyone knew.
Thanks
I dont think so. Att and verizon use two different technologies. Att uses GSM and Verizon uses CDMA. Im almost certain tho a phone that is based on GSM cannot be used on a CDMA network. The phone will work on TMobile or USCellular. They use a GSM based technology. Verizon Sprint and Nextel all use CDMA. If i am wrong and you can use the GSM based phone with Verizon CDMA then someone please correct me. But i am pretty certain you cannot.
OK,thanks. Thats what I thought
Verizon does not have sim cards, is that correct?
mistadj16 said:
Verizon does not have sim cards, is that correct?
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Not that I've ever seen.
I know sprint phones have sim card slots, but they are not used, at least in the USA.
My guess is that CDMA phones can be used in the same way as GSM phones as far as switching sims to use different carriers, but the CDMA carriers in the 'states don't use that functionality (probably to keep a tighter grip on their sucke....customers and wring more money from them through phone sales/upgrades and extra services, like a data service to put on extra ring tones )
I know that I don't know much about these phones, but what of the setting inside of Settings/Personal/Phone/Band where you can select WCDMA as your network type? I've got an 8525 and it shows as an option, but I just don't know if anyone's tried it before.
CDMA and GSM phones are totally different. The only SIM based verizon phone that Ive seen its the Blackberry 8300 its world edition soo it can bu used through a cdma and also a GSM carrier. I would be interested if anyone knows how to say make a sprint phone capable of being on verizons network. That would be something different.
actually a sprint phone is capable of being used on verison network any cdma phone is. in short the way cdma works the subscriber info is assigned to the phone's esn by the carrier so only the carrier can change your phone with gsm the sim (Subscriber Identity Module) holds the subscriber info and it is assigned to a sim card id not a esn (electronic serial number) so all you have to do to get a sprint phone to work for verizon is get verizon to let it (GOOD LUCK WITH THAT) you would have better luck the other way around verizon is the pickiest co out there when it comes to network integrity and security issues they seem to think that letting people use any phone they want could somehow hurt their network
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I know that I don't know much about these phones, but what of the setting inside of Settings/Personal/Phone/Band where you can select WCDMA as your network type? I've got an 8525 and it shows as an option, but I just don't know if anyone's tried it before.
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WCDMA is 3G. 3G on GSM systems is essentially a CDMA standard, but not the same CDMA as Verizon uses. It is not compatible.
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Buddy switching to ATT giving me his Alltel branded PPC6800 if I flash the dcd rom, 3.35 radio rom and vzw carrier cab should it work on verizon? Are there any other hurdles I might encounter?
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i doubt you will get verizon to activate it since it isnt one of there esn's, thats one thing i like about alltel they will try and activate any esn you give them they dont care where it came from
Thought I would update for everyone: I got an Alltel PPC 6800 on VZW. Here's how:
1) Logged into VZW My Business Account
2) Account Maintenance
3) Step 1: Enter cellphone number, click search
4) Action: Activate Equipment
5) Enter HEX ESN from Alltel phone
6) Ran through http://ppc.stoleyour.net/xv6800/ instructions to update radio, rom and carrier cab (thanks to Lord Cruik Shank nice howto)
7) Ran through http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=20090 Steps 5 - 7 to load the DMU Key with QPST (thanks to drellisdee)
8) ##778 Edit Security HDR Password to HEX ESN
Everything seems to be working I haven't tested the speed but EV stays on the screen. I also haven't test GPS yet. Will report back later.
Wow that is crazy......I can not wait to hear more...I had no idea that was possible....I did not realize alltel used GSM I thought they were CDMA. Does that phone have a sim card?
Ahhh.
Major USA CDMA Providers: Sprint, VZW, Alltel, Cricket that i can think of.
Major USA GSM Providers: T-Mobile, ATT ahhhh not sure
Not to mention VZW just purchased Alltel last month. But really you could can use any CDMA Titan (6800) on any CDMA carrier, if you can get the ESN on the network, and the right programming.
CDMA is more popular in the USA because the coverage area is better than GSM. Although I wish it was the opposite way around. GSM providers are alot more open on the device side.
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I just recently bought a Rogers HTC Magic, rooted the phone, and unlocked it. Everything seems to work completely fine. At the moment however, I seem to be having an issue with a Bell Mobility sim card. Bell's HSPA sim works fine, and I seem to be able to use voice and data ok, but the problem lies in that their seems to be a roaming symbol ("R") on my reception bar. Im using the phone in my local calling area which is somewhat misleading to me.
Im using MyHero 2.0.5 ROM at the moment. Does anyone know why this is happening? Thanks in advance!
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I'm doing the same thing. I'm running cyanogens roms and I get the same thing. Best I can tell is that this is normal on the magic. Just be careful if you live near the border like I do.
I figured this was normal too. I guess i'll try other SIM cards to see what they say as well, thanks!
Ya I also have this phone running on Bell, wish I could get rid of the roaming. It also asks if I want to connect once in a while too.
Shouldn't the romaing be dictated by the sim? I have a bell sim, on the bell network, why do I get the roaming icon? is there a way to change the phone so it doesn't think it's a rogers and not roaming or something?
Are you sure you have the Bell APN Settings and not the Rogers Settings in the phone?
Settings -> Wireless Control -> Mobile Network Settings -> Access Point Names
If it says Rogers you're Roaming on the Rogers Network.
I put in the bell APN. I don't think we can even roam on rogers network, wouldn't work. Either way, it's the Bell APN.
I don't have a clue as to the differences between Bell and Rogers sims... but I can tell you that my HTC Magic, on Rogers, with a Rogers sim (duh), running Amon_RA's most excellent RAv1.6.2H only shows roaming when actually roaming.
I was in the US yesterday and watched it flip from a Rogers tower to ATT. I was watching to make sure it was not using any data when roaming on a US network. The symbol, lockscreen info and the carrier listed in the status pulldown all were updated correctly.
It might have something to do with the ROM you are running. However I bet that given the phone came from Rogers, it has some carrier info buried somewhere that it is comparing to the carrier you are on (Bell) and triggering the roaming status.
If you disable data when roaming in the settings menu, what does it do? If it disables data, then the phone thinks it is roaming, which would support my carrier data mixup theory.
I will try a different rom on the phone. Unless someone knows for sure what I can do to fix this.
If you disable roaming there is no data, because once in a while it prompts to connect, if you say no, you get nothing. Sometimes my wife must accidentally hit no (its her phone, she probably says no cause shes not sure what it does). I just want to make it so she does not get the prompt ever (settings are all set).
I have a rogers HTC Magic (unlocked) I'm using a fido sim, it thinks its roaming as-well but I have only fido apn settings. It only roams with certain roms and radio's. I can use alot of roms eg. cyanogen,Hero HOFO 308,GYD 2.1.1 without roaming but when I update radio and flash cursorsense roms it thinks it is roaming. I have to enable data roaming in order to get a 3G signal. as a fido user I dial *#123# to see if I'm in my local zone zone. A fido tech rep told me that most unlocked phones indicate roaming because of the phones hardware programing. The hard programing of the phones checks the sim and sees that it is using a diff sim card and starts indicating roaming when in fact you are not. A rogers salesman also told me the same thing. He said as long as your carrier is displayed on your phone homescreen then you are good.
I have the AT&T Tilt, not running the AT&T ROM. I've tested a few different SIM cards on my phone and here's what I've found:
Rogers: Roaming works correctly. In Canada, no roaming indicator, in the USA, roaming is indicated correctly.
Telus & Bell (HSPA): Roaming indicator always on.
I've heard that this may be due to the SIM card listing more than one Mobile Network Code: 302361, 302653, 302657 (original Telus CDMA networks, not compatible with the phone or any kind of SIM-based network so it's uncertain why it would be on the SIM card), PLUS the HSPA network code 302880. It's possible that the phone is not reading that far into the list on the SIM and therefore does not know that 302880 is a home network.
Tilt 2 Roaming Triangle and telus
I'm on Telus and have a Tilt2. The original ROM that came with the unit didn't show the roaming triangle. I have attached some screen captures of the ROM. I've attached a copy of the registry (Remove the .cab it was the only way I could get it to upload).
I'm now running Jackos rom and it does show the roaming triangle.
Hopefully somebody can find where the settings are located and hopefully it's contained in the registry.
Have the same problem on the Stocks ROGERS 1.5 Rom. Sales associate said you should not get roaming charges since you aren't actually roaming and if you do, just contact your phone provider.
rogers htc dream unlocked now on roaming?
i also have a htc dream from rogers unlocked not rooted and my bell sims card works like my phone calls and my text but i can't get my data to work and when i click on the apns theres not thing and i am not able to adjust anything in there, if anyone can help it would be great, so pretty much the bell sims card works but i cant use my data and it says im roaming
hol17 said:
Have the same problem on the Stocks ROGERS 1.5 Rom. Sales associate said you should not get roaming charges since you aren't actually roaming and if you do, just contact your phone provider.
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i also have a htc dream from rogers unlocked not rooted and my bell sims card works like my phone calls and my text but i can't get my data to work and when i click on the apns theres not thing and i am not able to adjust anything in there, if anyone can help it would be great, so pretty much the bell sims card works but i cant use my data and it says im roaming
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If you aren't outside of Canada and you get the roaming symbol; they can not charge you roaming fees.
Roger and Telus PLMN Compared
I'm not sure if this will help,
I have attached a picture of the PLMN from a Rogers sim and a Telus sim
Maybe someone knows how to adjust the information on these lists.
Dave778 said:
A fido tech rep told me that most unlocked phones indicate roaming because of the phones hardware programing. The hard programing of the phones checks the sim and sees that it is using a diff sim card and starts indicating roaming when in fact you are not. A rogers salesman also told me the same thing. He said as long as your carrier is displayed on your phone homescreen then you are good.
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The phone companies in Canada must be less uptight about unlocked/rooted phones
If you asked those questions to a t-mobile or at&t rep, they would straight up refuse to talk to you
American cell phone companies are still stuck in the "Ma Bell" mentality, where everything that touches their network must be under their control
anyone figure out a fix? I'm having these roaming issues as well on the bell network with unlocked at&t phone.
I have Same probleme Here, Bell on a AT&T Tilt 2 phone, Always get Roaming message.
any registry edit or mod available to make it work without these message ?
thks
BiOs2k said:
I have Same probleme Here, Bell on a AT&T Tilt 2 phone, Always get Roaming message.
any registry edit or mod available to make it work without these message ?
thks
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I searched around to a fairly moderate extent and I have found many people with the same problem, yet I can't find any resolution to this issue.
I'm not even sure where the issue lays. Is it with the hardware/firmware? SIM card? Windows Mobile? Is it the rilphone.dll? or maybe some registry entry. Maybe it's on the Bell network side?
Someone told me they put a Rogers SIM into their Fuze and it didn't show up as roaming, yet when they put a Bell SIM in, it's back to roaming. So what's the difference between Bell and Rogers?
Here's a question for anyone who has this problem, when you boot android does it still show as roaming?
Unlocked my Sprint LG v20 through a website someone on here recommended for me (lg simunlock) and used the Network Unlock app and it i used the code to unlock it they gave me and it said successful. even now when i open the app it sais my device has been permanently unlocked.
When i put my Family mobile sim in it it gives me the bars as if im getting a signal but when i call someone i sais mobile network is unavailable?
help please??!
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Unlocked my Sprint LG v20 through a website someone on here recommended for me (lg simunlock) and used the Network Unlock app and it i used the code to unlock it they gave me and it said successful. even now when i open the app it sais my device has been permanently unlocked.
When i put my Family mobile sim in it it gives me the bars as if im getting a signal but when i call someone i sais mobile network is unavailable?
help please??!
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Have you tried doing a profile update in settings system update
loopytee said:
Have you tried doing a profile update in settings system update
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no i havent yet. ill try and do that now.
loopytee said:
Have you tried doing a profile update in settings system update
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when i did this it sais authentication error.
just checked apparently the imei is bad but it was good the day i bought it how is that possible?
k1bih said:
just checked apparently the imei is bad but it was good the day i bought it how is that possible?
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Have you tried contacting the website you used for unlock and asking for support? Perhaps this is a common issue that they know how to resolve easily.
Heres the issue. Sprint is a CDMA network, Family Mobile is Powered by T-Mobile, a GSM network. The odds of a sprint device working with any other carrier that isn't CDMA is next to none. I work at T-Mobile and we run across this issue frequently, sprint devices aren't compatible with our networks because of sprints difference in network hardware.
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Heres the issue. Sprint is a CDMA network, Family Mobile is Powered by T-Mobile, a GSM network. The odds of a sprint device working with any other carrier that isn't CDMA is next to none. I work at T-Mobile and we run across this issue frequently, sprint devices aren't compatible with our networks because of sprints difference in network hardware.
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Ive unlocked the phone and it has a CDMA or a global GSM option so i doubt thats the issue. However it seems my actualy issue was that the person who sold me the phone only reported it stolen or missing once i bought it from him.
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Ive unlocked the phone and it has a CDMA or a global GSM option so i doubt thats the issue. However it seems my actualy issue was that the person who sold me the phone only reported it stolen or missing once i bought it from him.
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Take the device to a sprint store and have them run the IMEI, they can tell you. Having it unlocked doesnt mean its GSM if the hardware doesnt support GSM. I have that issue with sprint phones all the time.
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Heres the issue. Sprint is a CDMA network, Family Mobile is Powered by T-Mobile, a GSM network. The odds of a sprint device working with any other carrier that isn't CDMA is next to none. I work at T-Mobile and we run across this issue frequently, sprint devices aren't compatible with our networks because of sprints difference in network hardware.
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The ls997 is gsm compatible, the only thing it wont do is Voice LTE, this will only work on sprint. Most sprint phones use sim cards now days, so the majority of sprint phone can be unlocked to be used on a gsm carrier.
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The ls997 is gsm compatible, the only thing it wont do is Voice LTE, this will only work on sprint. Most sprint phones use sim cards now days, so the majority of sprint phone can be unlocked to be used on a gsm carrier.
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Then you need to manually setup the APN settings for the data.
Spring LG v20 - Unlock does not work. (even Sprint said it is unlocked)
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The ls997 is gsm compatible, the only thing it wont do is Voice LTE, this will only work on sprint. Most sprint phones use sim cards now days, so the majority of sprint phone can be unlocked to be used on a gsm carrier.
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Spring LG v20 - Unlock does not work. (even Sprint said it is unlocked).
I am still dealing with Sprint now but i don't think they know what needs to be done.
MY device LG v20 (LS997) did received unlocked code.
I did update PRL, Profile, and UICC unlock button in System update .. and it did all without any error.
However when I insert NON-Sprint SIM CARD, the device can't recognize the SIM CARD.
Also I tried to add APN but the device can't save it. (even I clicked SAVE, the new APN does not show up as an option to select).
I am stuck here so badly now. i have 3 LG v20 and plan to move somewhere but I'd like to use them. arghh.
I fought back with Sprint and got MSL code but.. not sure what I can do with it.
There are so many other people in the sprint community forum who are having the same issue as me).
any help/options are appreciated.
thank you.
amsguy said:
Spring LG v20 - Unlock does not work. (even Sprint said it is unlocked).
I am still dealing with Sprint now but i don't think they know what needs to be done.
MY device LG v20 (LS997) did received unlocked code.
I did update PRL, Profile, and UICC unlock button in System update .. and it did all without any error.
However when I insert NON-Sprint SIM CARD, the device can't recognize the SIM CARD.
Also I tried to add APN but the device can't save it. (even I clicked SAVE, the new APN does not show up as an option to select).
I am stuck here so badly now. i have 3 LG v20 and plan to move somewhere but I'd like to use them. arghh.
I fought back with Sprint and got MSL code but.. not sure what I can do with it.
There are so many other people in the sprint community forum who are having the same issue as me).
any help/options are appreciated.
thank you.
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Have you tried switching it from factory mode to test ? In the hidde menu, i dont remember were it is, but there is an apk that installs the hidden menu witch will allow you to switch between gsm and cdma mode. And i dont believe you need to sim unlock the v20, i dint have too.
Hey guys,
I bought the G950FD on eBay so that I could root and tweak it the way I always have with my previous phones. I use total wireless which is on Verizon towers and have gotten the phone to connect just like it should, text, receive/make calls, and use data. To do this, I used the Flashable CSC Collection here to switch the CSC to VZW and it worked for a while, but after restarting I started to get some problems that I can't sort out.
1. Calls do not work anymore - I can't make or receive them at all. Dialing a number just says "Dialing" with some zeros below it, and calling my number goes right to voicemail.2. Data cuts out sometimes and shows no signal. Recently, I tried to search for carriers and reconnect to Verizon but now I can't get a connection at all without restoring a backup.3. Other observations: Using a signal info app, it seems like I only see band 1 and it is usually very slow. CDMA obviously doesn't work, so maybe that's why I can't register on the network anymore, but why did it work when I first booted up? I can't change the APN settings after switching to VZW CSC and also can't see an option for VoLTE, but that must be working right? Only some ROMs seem to work with the VZW CSC and allow me to connect to the cell towers. Changing the network mode does not do anything and just reverts back to 2G, which doesn't make sense because 2G shouldn't be possible. None of the codes that can be entered into the dialer to run the activities have worked or helped at all. When connected to WiFi, the no signal bar shows 4G connectivity and the signal bars reappear but I am still not connected.
So, what can I try and does anyone have knowledge to share about cell towers, SIMs, registering on the network, or anything else relevant to my situation? I am completely stumped and would love any input that you guys could give me and future 950FD owners who might have this issue.
I'm looking forward to hearing what you guys know,
Joe
Only verizon phones work on verizon, you can't use a non-verizon phone on its network even if its supports its frequencies. Lte on your s8 is compatible with verizon's but after it worked for a bit they disabled your imei from their network, nothing you can do about it.
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Only verizon phones work on verizon, you can't use a non-verizon phone on its network even if its supports its frequencies. Lte on your s8 is compatible with verizon's but after it worked for a bit they disabled your imei from their network, nothing you can do about it.
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Thanks for the reply! I do not think they have blocked my IMEI because I just restored a backup and everything works again. I believe it has something to do with the settings on my phone or possibly a bug with Android/changing the CSC because changing the network settings cause crashes, disconnects, and other weird behavior.
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Only verizon phones work on verizon, you can't use a non-verizon phone on its network even if its supports its frequencies. Lte on your s8 is compatible with verizon's but after it worked for a bit they disabled your imei from their network, nothing you can do about it.
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Lol don't give misinformation, they don't do this, in fact I'm pretty sure forcing all users to have phones obtained through Verizon would be completely illegal for a Telco to do. VZW doesn't even know what type of phone you have unless you register it and even if you do they don't care.