Alltel PPC6800 on Verizon - Mogul, XV6800 General

Buddy switching to ATT giving me his Alltel branded PPC6800 if I flash the dcd rom, 3.35 radio rom and vzw carrier cab should it work on verizon? Are there any other hurdles I might encounter?
Thanks,
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i doubt you will get verizon to activate it since it isnt one of there esn's, thats one thing i like about alltel they will try and activate any esn you give them they dont care where it came from

Thought I would update for everyone: I got an Alltel PPC 6800 on VZW. Here's how:
1) Logged into VZW My Business Account
2) Account Maintenance
3) Step 1: Enter cellphone number, click search
4) Action: Activate Equipment
5) Enter HEX ESN from Alltel phone
6) Ran through http://ppc.stoleyour.net/xv6800/ instructions to update radio, rom and carrier cab (thanks to Lord Cruik Shank nice howto)
7) Ran through http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=20090 Steps 5 - 7 to load the DMU Key with QPST (thanks to drellisdee)
8) ##778 Edit Security HDR Password to HEX ESN
Everything seems to be working I haven't tested the speed but EV stays on the screen. I also haven't test GPS yet. Will report back later.

Wow that is crazy......I can not wait to hear more...I had no idea that was possible....I did not realize alltel used GSM I thought they were CDMA. Does that phone have a sim card?

Ahhh.
Major USA CDMA Providers: Sprint, VZW, Alltel, Cricket that i can think of.
Major USA GSM Providers: T-Mobile, ATT ahhhh not sure
Not to mention VZW just purchased Alltel last month. But really you could can use any CDMA Titan (6800) on any CDMA carrier, if you can get the ESN on the network, and the right programming.
CDMA is more popular in the USA because the coverage area is better than GSM. Although I wish it was the opposite way around. GSM providers are alot more open on the device side.
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Unlocking Sprint Apache?!

can this be done.. i live in a country that doesn't have that phone and i was thinking of buying it from the US through Sprint.. but will i be able to unlock it and use it on my country?? does it support SIM or not?
Why not use a HTC-HERMES
You would be better off getting a HTC-HERMES based phone. most of the US phones that are EVDO-based can't be unlocked to my knowledge. The HTC TyTN 3G Phone is better every which way than the PPC6700. I've demo'ed both units and I really like the new Hermes over the 6700. Not to mention that sprint is the one of the *worse* US celluar companies out there
Thx
-cosmic
In a conversation with a verizon rep a few months ago, I learned that, while not advertised, it is technically possible to activate sprint phones on the verizon network. they would need the MSL (master subsidy lock) code and a second unlock code. The MSL is needed to program the phone with the phone number itself. The second code is used for deeper device programming so that it would work on other networks. keep in mind that the rep said that it is technically possible and could not point to actual instances where it had been done.
on a side note...I think that sprint uses only one frequency mode, while say...verizon uses two frequency modes (but the one sprint uses is the same one verizon uses for voice and data on evdo phones).
my understanding is that another carrier will have to add the ESN of the sprint phone to the ESN block of their phones, which is something that may be difficult to do...you would probably have to find some kind, knowledgeable rep to do this for you.
No Verizon
I'm using verizon wireless now. Before using verizon, Please read the following:
* Not only does Verizon limit the type of "unlimited" use, it imposes a quota on "unlimited" use, and terminates customers who exceed it. According to the Washington Post.[6], Broadband Reports[7], tech columnist Robert X. Cringely, many wireless industry "insider" news sites[8],[9], and countless blogs[10]; Verizon advertises "unlimited" broadand service but automatically terminates anyone using more than 5G/month (166M/day), no matter what they use the service for. This is a quota of about 15 minutes of actual data transmission time... for an "unlimited" use account. A PBS investigator monitored his bandwidth during normal use and discovered it to be 184M/day[11]. .
Taken from: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Verizon_Wireless
This is very tue of verizon. Does anyone know if this is gonna change anytime soon?
You can get the MSL (unlock) code from the Apache by using Bitpim. Check this post:
http://ppc6700users.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1640&start=15
It worked for me on a Qwest phone. Sprint still wouldn't activate it for me though.
no SIM but you can now change ur ESN see here.
~Mike
after my post above, I tried a few things...
here's what you would need to do :
change your esn (you will need your msl) to an esn that is in the block of the target carrier (hint, buy a cheap or give-a-way) change your esn, make sure that you calculate a checksum (there are instructions and programs all over the internet on how to change your esn). program your phone with your number: ##<your msl here># and type in your 10-digit phone number. don't worry about the dec or hex, just change the esn and program your number.
From Assoicated Press - Spring Nextel Agrees to Unlock Phones
I think its going to get a little bit easier, check this out:
http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5jPBoupMPJ6Tl4jgQ5aG0f8-R9KEgD8SH61A80
I'll start a new thread to make sure it gets seen
You CAN NOT use a CDMA phone on a GSM network. They are completely different signals. You can unlock a Sprint phone and force it onto Verizon. You can't force a Verizon phone onto Sprint, unless you know someone inside that doesn't mind losing their job.
Again, CDMA phones ONLY work on CDMA networks such as Verizon or Sprint.

ATT 8528 on Verizon

Hi All,
I was wondering if I could use my unlocked 8525 with Verizon's net work if I switched to them? I'm not sure about compatability of the phone with Verizon's voice and data services and was wondering if anyone knew.
Thanks
I dont think so. Att and verizon use two different technologies. Att uses GSM and Verizon uses CDMA. Im almost certain tho a phone that is based on GSM cannot be used on a CDMA network. The phone will work on TMobile or USCellular. They use a GSM based technology. Verizon Sprint and Nextel all use CDMA. If i am wrong and you can use the GSM based phone with Verizon CDMA then someone please correct me. But i am pretty certain you cannot.
OK,thanks. Thats what I thought
Verizon does not have sim cards, is that correct?
mistadj16 said:
Verizon does not have sim cards, is that correct?
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Not that I've ever seen.
I know sprint phones have sim card slots, but they are not used, at least in the USA.
My guess is that CDMA phones can be used in the same way as GSM phones as far as switching sims to use different carriers, but the CDMA carriers in the 'states don't use that functionality (probably to keep a tighter grip on their sucke....customers and wring more money from them through phone sales/upgrades and extra services, like a data service to put on extra ring tones )
I know that I don't know much about these phones, but what of the setting inside of Settings/Personal/Phone/Band where you can select WCDMA as your network type? I've got an 8525 and it shows as an option, but I just don't know if anyone's tried it before.
CDMA and GSM phones are totally different. The only SIM based verizon phone that Ive seen its the Blackberry 8300 its world edition soo it can bu used through a cdma and also a GSM carrier. I would be interested if anyone knows how to say make a sprint phone capable of being on verizons network. That would be something different.
actually a sprint phone is capable of being used on verison network any cdma phone is. in short the way cdma works the subscriber info is assigned to the phone's esn by the carrier so only the carrier can change your phone with gsm the sim (Subscriber Identity Module) holds the subscriber info and it is assigned to a sim card id not a esn (electronic serial number) so all you have to do to get a sprint phone to work for verizon is get verizon to let it (GOOD LUCK WITH THAT) you would have better luck the other way around verizon is the pickiest co out there when it comes to network integrity and security issues they seem to think that letting people use any phone they want could somehow hurt their network
vn1977 said:
I know that I don't know much about these phones, but what of the setting inside of Settings/Personal/Phone/Band where you can select WCDMA as your network type? I've got an 8525 and it shows as an option, but I just don't know if anyone's tried it before.
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WCDMA is 3G. 3G on GSM systems is essentially a CDMA standard, but not the same CDMA as Verizon uses. It is not compatible.
-Jay

how to completely revert to factory rom

i recently flashed my mogul to cricket wireless, but can't use it due to living in a tri band market. i need to return to phone back to sprint, esn is already activated for cricket, and i just canceled my account, how to i completely revert all settings already programed back TO SPRINT SERVICE,
THANKS ANYONE?
Download the install the most up to date Sprint rom. That should get you there most of the way.
See this link in the Titan wiki...
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=TitanStockHome
oyebee said:
i recently flashed my mogul to cricket wireless, but can't use it due to living in a tri band market. i need to return to phone back to sprint, esn is already activated for cricket, and i just canceled my account, how to i completely revert all settings already programed back TO SPRINT SERVICE,
THANKS ANYONE?
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I am in the same situation,
Cricket is Tri-Mode (AWS) in my area, South Texas.
Been looking for the OEM ROM for the PPC 6800 with no luck
for a few days.
Thank you very much for the link SC-Manhattan!

How to activate Sprint Hero? Now it is in offline mode.

I brought Sprint Hero which BAD ESN from ebay. I understand it is unable to activate on Sprint. Currently, I am trying to use it with other carrier but there is no signal(marked X). I have checked network status by using CDMA workshop, it show "offline mode" and state show "entering CDMA network". Comparing to my old one, it show different. Can anyone help me to fix this? is this about activation? But i have changed ESN.
Don't know why but when I hear bad esn I always think "stolen". Anways Hopefully all you did is change the esn. Did you put a new prl in there? That is a must try that and see how it goes. What carrier did you put it on? If you get The settings in there correctly and it's not a well known apn post please.
I'm trying to use it with CDMA 800 Cellular (Thailand). I have change prl to the one support my carrier. (Verizon and Alltel include SID/NID of my carrier to their PRL). I thought it's because hero200 is only support PCS. After several searching, it seems heo200 support on both PCS and Cellular. IF it is incorrect, please suggest. Verizon phone can get signal here. I have seen the BB tour working when change network to 1x. it got a signal marked with 1x sign.
By the way, i am in Belgium. i bring the working one which is samsung here. Off-cause no signal as i know that there is no CDMA network. But what i want to check is the status in CDMA workshop and the status doesn't show offline mode which is different from Sprint Hero(Always show offline mode). I start thinking that something wrong which my sprint hero that why ex-owner what to sell it. Hope somebody can find the way out for me.

Activate T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S4 on Sprint networks

Hi I was wondering if anyone had tried to activate a T-Mobile S4 variant on Sprint networks . I read where one will need a valid ESn Number . I realize that Sprint uses different bands for their voice text and LTE data then T-Mobile does . Would I need to install a Sprint variant S4 rom to solve this issue with the cellular modem radio . Any help appreciated
Late reply here. You have issues that will make it very difficult for you to accomplish what you're trying to do.
1. You can't install a Sprint ROM on a T-Mobile device. Odin will check to determine whether the ROM is correct for the device, and if it isn't, will refuse to install it.
2. Installing a Sprint baseband on a T-Mobile device, if it were possible, would render the wireless capabilities of the device useless until the T-Mobile baseband were restored.
3. You'd need to convert the IMEI to an ESN. This is perhaps the easiest thing to do since the ESN is the IMEI, but ignoring the very last digit in the IMEI (the check digit).
4. Sprint is extremely reluctant to activate non-Sprint phones on their network, to the point of outright refusal in some cases.
I personally recommend switching from Sprint to T-Mobile or an MVNO using T-Mobile if you really want to use this device. Not only is the service better than Sprint, you don't have any hoops to jump through in order to get the S4 working on the network. If you insist upon using Sprint, find a different device.

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