My Sprint S4 is on MF9 (4.2) - rooted (with hotspot mod installed), so recovery and 'about page' shows "Custom".
If I flash stock MF9 using ODIN (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2485502), it looks like it will unroot me.
Is it right to assume though, that it will set my Knox counter to 0x0 and will make me fully stock? (in the sense that it will no longer show custom in recovery/about-page)? Or do I need to go back to MDL, and use triangle away first, and then install 4.3 using ODIN (link above)
I'm trying to get this back to stock and sell it as soon as my Nexus 5 gets here.
Edit: corrected URL and changed to MF9
jj14 said:
My Sprint S4 is on MF9 (4.2) - rooted (with hotspot mod installed), so recovery and 'about page' shows "Custom".
If I flash stock 4.3 using ODIN (http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=2485502), it looks like it will unroot me.
Is it right to assume though, that it will set my Knox counter to 0x0 and will make me fully stock? (in the sense that it will no longer show custom in recovery/about-page)? Or do I need to go back to MDL, and use triangle away first, and then install 4.3 using ODIN (link above)
I'm trying to get this back to stock and sell it as soon as my Nexus 5 gets here.
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Thats not 4.3 btw. You should go back to mdl then use traingle away then do ota to get mf9 do a factory reset. You planning to upgrade to 4.3??
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ROMANTiC KiD said:
Thats not 4.3 btw. You should go back to mdl then use traingle away then do ota to get mf9 do a factory reset. You planning to upgrade to 4.3??
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You are right - sorry about that. I edited my post above.
I do plan to bump up to stock (unrooted) 4.3 before I sell it. So just updating to 4.3 will not reset my status from Custom (but will set my Knox counter to 0x0)?
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You are right - sorry about that. I edited my post above.
I do plan to bump up to stock (unrooted) 4.3 before I sell it. So just updating to 4.3 will not reset my status from Custom (but will set my Knox counter to 0x0)?
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Nope. If you want out of the box phone like then you need to do as i stated above.
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bummer.... was really hoping to avoid these multiple steps of flashing stock MDL, triangleaway, OTA to MF9, and then OTA/flash MJA...
Thanks for your guidance though. I'll wait till I have the replacement phone activated - hopefully next week, just in case things go bad
Just wanted to update - I was able to get back to stock. Fairly simple actually (thanks @crawrj for detailed instructions)
Ran triangle away on my MF9 - worked fine, and reset the counter/status
Flashed MF9 tar file
Booted up
Factory reset
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I'm still deciding whether or not I should flash back to MDL and OTA the 4.3 update when it comes out. What is the exact process in flashing via Odin?
I already know this far;
Download Odin and MDL .tar
Go through the process and let it flash
Wait for the green
Flashed - Boot like normal
OTA to 4.3
I have been hearing about something called Triangle Away. What am I supposed to do exactly with it? What I know so far is, if you want to send your device in for repair or warranty, you should do Triangle Away?
Thanks!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2314494
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2261573
The first link is somewhat useless for what I'm asking. Unless I'm completely oblivious of something.
I already checked Adam's thread, but what is the whole thing about Triangle Away and the flash counter?
Exactly how am I supposed to use it?
Do I flash to MDL, root and then use Triangle Away and then flash via Odin back to MDL or what?
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I just installed Triangle Away and my Flash Counter is at 0. So nevermind, I guess I don't have to do anything. Except the weird thing is, I have flashed custom ROM's at least over a couple dozen times and custom recovery twice.
What firmware are you on? I'm sorry if you are on MF3 you cannot downgrade. If you are on MF3, you can root and use safestrap to flash tw roms. Your options are either to stay on MF3 and root it or upgrade.
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What firmware are you on? I'm sorry if you are on MF3 you cannot downgrade. If you are on MF3, you can root and use safestrap to flash tw roms. Your options are either to stay on MF3 and root it or upgrade.
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MDL
Here...
http://www.androidrootz.com/2013/06...alaxy-s4-gt-i505-m919-i337-international.html
There is ALWAYS risk. If you try it, you take responsibility for the risk!
I suggest you use the XDA search function or Google if you have any more concers because the answer has generally already been posted to most questions...you just have to search for them and read / learn about them.
Good luck.
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Why not just wait until one of the Devs releases the ODIN TAR for 4.3? It should be available soon after the OTA.
Better yet, just flash a 4.3 ROM to your phone. That way, you can still have the option of Rooting or using a custom recovery on your phone. If you take the 4.3 OTA or ODIN 4.3 to your phone, you will not be able to ROOT or use a custom recovery, at least not yet.
I stayed on 4.2.2 rooted with TWRP and never took the MJA/MK2 OTAs, to avoid knox. I've been waiting for KitKat, and I'm ready to take the plunge. I've read through a bunch of threads, and have thoroughly confused myself. I have a few basic questions, so I can determine what my options are:
1) Is it possible to go from MF9 (rooted) to NAE, and retain my data? What happens to the modifications I made to MF9 (hotspot, xposed, etc.)?
2) If the answer to 1 is no, is it reasonable to assume that there will be a flashable NAE rom in the near future, so that I wouldn't have to odin to MK2 before going through the OTA update to NAE?
3) Should I give up on trying to keep my existing bootloader, and just suck it up and take knox? It seems like there's probably enough differences in the rom and modem that the bootloader is probably a necessary evil at this point.
Thanks in advance for your help.
There have been several reports of people whose WiFi and data have worked just fine with the NAE ROM plus older bootloader like MF9. I'd wait until a stock rooted NAE ROM appears so we can try it with the knox-free MF9 bootloader.
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I am in the same situation and currently on a stock rooted MF9 with a custom recovery as well. I would like to know the best upgrade path to 4.4.2 and hopefully stay on a knox free boot loader.
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Once Warboy releases the updated stock, rooted NAE, I'm gonna flash it with Philz recovery to see whether everything's compatible with the Knox-free MF9 bootloader. In the meanwhile, I'm gonna flash just the NAE modem. Cant wait for Kitkat~! (Even though I've had the 4.4.2 update for a long time through my Nexus 5, I'm still very excited, LOL~)
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Im still on mdl lol.....maybe I should atleast update to mf9? Haha
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cfendrick said:
I am in the same situation and currently on a stock rooted MF9 with a custom recovery as well. I would like to know the best upgrade path to 4.4.2 and hopefully stay on a knox free boot loader.
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I'm in same boat
on MF9 , didnt even go to 4.3, still sitting at 4.2.2 (with the update icon in my status bar, but i assume its for 4.3 not kit kat)
Im rooted and have exposed installed
would rather have a knox free loader too!
if anybody can advise on the best route to take would be lovely
would like to have kit kat on my phone today!!
I was on this boat but last night flashed the gummy Rom. It is okay but I would love to have the stock Rom. I don't like few things on the Gummy.
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I was on this boat but last night flashed the gummy Rom. It is okay but I would love to have the stock Rom. I don't like few things on the Gummy.
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so you had MF9 bootloader? (and do you keep that one or switch to the knox one?)
just flashed rom with TRWP? (that'll update radio too?)
and what things dont you like on Gummy?
sandman121383 said:
Im still on mdl lol.....maybe I should atleast update to mf9? Haha
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Lol I've been wondering if anyone else stayed on 4.2.2. Lol Im rooted with custom recovery. I hit the update button the other night and it wouldn't install and that icon went away, so I got that going for me. But I can't wait for kit kat, just waiting on the whole knox deal.
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so you had MF9 bootloader? (and do you keep that one or switch to the knox one?)
just flashed rom with TRWP? (that'll update radio too?)
and what things dont you like on Gummy?
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Yeah I have MF9 and I could keep the same.
I had issues with BT connection with my BMW but works fine with BT headset.
Home screen kind of wacky and you can't select the one that you like.
I just went back to 4.2.2 again until I find a good one.
Yikes
I'm in the same situation, living on my phone with MF9, have TWRP/Custom Recovery installed, and am interested to upgrade to Kitkat. I'm very interested to know what will be the upgrade method for me to 4.4.2, similar to many others in this thread.
I'm on slimkat now and all is working great. Only drawback is no theme chooser
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I just simply flashed the KitKat rom with twrp
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I'm on slimkat now and all is working great. Only drawback is no theme chooser
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I just simply flashed the KitKat rom with twrp
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Which KitKat rom did you use? Did it just upgrade your OS or did you have to start from a clean install? Any issues with Knox?
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Which KitKat rom did you use? Did it just upgrade your OS or did you have to start from a clean install? Any issues with Knox?
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i used Slimkat, but it froze occasionally. now im on CM 11 and its FLAWLESS
did clean install (but had some apps backed up with Titanium)
to my knowledge the whole Knox thing is with Touchwiz based roms
both slimkat and CM 11 are not,so no worries about Knox
I am still on MF9 modem and bootloader
gonna get around to flashing the NAE modem later though
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i used Slimkat, but it froze occasionally. now im on CM 11 and its FLAWLESS
did clean install (but had some apps backed up with Titanium)
to my knowledge the whole Knox thing is with Touchwiz based roms
both slimkat and CM 11 are not,so no worries about Knox
I am still on MF9 modem and bootloader
gonna get around to flashing the NAE modem later though
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Alright. I'm personally looking to update only to official rom and NAE modem, not custom rom. Hoping I can do upgrade instead of clean install but hoping to get root access back or keep it at least.
Ok so i dont think i care about the knox thing anymore.. So with that said i would like to upgrade to 4.4.2 with the stock sprint rom. What is the best way to go about that? Sorry im just confused with the bootloader and modem flashes.. Its been awhile since ive had a samsung phone.. Im assuming i cant do the OTA due to TWRP....
I am running completely stock and rooted with saferoot,
4.2.2
baseband mf9
bootloader mf9
TWRP installed
please help
Can you just unroot and install the NAE ota then reroot with cf auto root? This is coming from stock rooted mk2.
I have a L720 running the MK2 4.3 Stock(ish) and the PhilZ Touch ver 6. I want to remove all of these and reinstall the stock MK2 in advance of the new kitkat release. How do I remove all of these before reloading the stock MK2?
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I have a L720 running the MK2 4.3 Stock(ish) and the PhilZ Touch ver 6. I want to remove all of these and reinstall the stock MK2 in advance of the new kitkat release. How do I remove all of these before reloading the stock MK2?
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Flash the stock MK2 file found here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2601443 and your phone will be back to stock unrooted and ready for the OTA. Your data will still be in tact.
I'm hoping this is the right thread.
I'm fairly new to the S4 coming from an S2. I did root MK2 using SafeRoot method. I should not have tripped Knox or anything like that. I unrooted with SuperSU unroot option. Everything looks OK except the Device Status shows Custom. I haven't gotten the OTA yet, but when it comes in, is it safe to try, or am I going to have problems?
Thanks,
Dennis_H
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I'm hoping this is the right thread.
I'm fairly new to the S4 coming from an S2. I did root MK2 using SafeRoot method. I should not have tripped Knox or anything like that. I unrooted with SuperSU unroot option. Everything looks OK except the Device Status shows Custom. I haven't gotten the OTA yet, but when it comes in, is it safe to try, or am I going to have problems?
Thanks,
Dennis_H
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It all depends if you modded or disabled anything in the system partition. Including the hotspot mod. If you have, the ota will fail and you need to Odin the stock mk2 tar.
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It all depends if you modded or disabled anything in the system partition. Including the hotspot mod. If you have, the ota will fail and you need to Odin the stock mk2 tar.
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As far as I know, nothing in the system partition got changed with saferoot, and I never got around to installing any new recoveries or adding the hotspot mod. The hotspot mod was the real reason i rooted, but got a little concerned/confused after reading about it.If the custom in device status doesn't cause issues, I'll wait to get the OTA and then start reading about the HS mod again to see how to implement in 4.4.2 without tripping knox if possible.
Thanks for the info.
Dennis_H
I have tried several ROM - Sacs, TriForceROM, and then I even flashed the NAE modem and tried Negalite. All of them are unstable on my phone. Things lag really bad just switching from page to page. WiFi is unstable, going fast one second then slowing down to a crawl.
I am currently downloading UnknownForce's stock rooted NAE to try it out. I also haen't tried a different WiFi network, only the one at my house - my wife hasn't reported it acting weird for her iphone though, nor have I on my computer - I'm going to try my S4 on wifi when I get to work to see if it's the same on that network.
Basically my S4 has been unusable to me. I've been using my Moto X instead... any suggestions?
I can't help but thing I messed up somewhere like with the firmware or something. I've been thinking about taking into the store and flashing it back to complete stock and starting over.
Thanks
And yes. I did wipe everything including system before flashing the different ROMs
Update: I flashed unknownforces stock rooted and now it won't boot. I flashed it again for good measure and dissable the recovery flash and it's still not booting.
Try odin back to stock depending what firmware you are on.
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ROMANTiC KiD said:
Try odin back to stock depending what firmware you are on.
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I'm on NAE. If I do that it will add Knox correct? Would Knox show immediately that it's been custom flashed or only after the next custom flash?
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I'm on NAE. If I do that it will add Knox correct? Would Knox show immediately that it's been custom flashed or only after the next custom flash?
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Why the hell do you care if it adds knox? If your phone is unusable and you want to fix it then a clean flash is the way to go. Download the full tar file for NAE from Random45's thread in the development section and flash it in Odin. Problem solved, your phone will work great. Reroot with CF autoroot if you want. Yes, the Knox warranty flag will be tripped but that means nothing. You've already voided your warranty as soon as you installed a custom rom on it, you just won't be able to hide it from Samsung now. Knox does nothing to your phone to prevent you from using it or customizing it. All the posts about knox preventing me from doing this or blocking that are from users that don't know what they are talking about. Just fix your phone already.
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You've already voided your warranty as soon as you installed a custom rom on it, you just won't be able to hide it from Samsung now./QUOTE]
The reason I was asking that was because if it still goes crazy then it would be something hardware related. At that point I would be going through Samsung for warranty coverage.
I will flash it back to stock. seems like my best option at this point.
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Can someone help me take my S4 back to 4.3? I got the OTA update for 4.4 yesterday morning and have had nothing but problems. Terrible battery life (40% down in 3 hours with little to no use) WiFi wont turn on thanks to this piece of junk Knox software. So before I dump Samsung completely for a Moto X or Nexus, can someone help me downgrade from 4.4 back to 4.3 where I had no problems?
Were you totally stock before the OTA? If you still have warranty left, I would bring it in to a Sprint store and *****.
If not, you can try one of 2 things. 1) flash the NAE tar file using odin to see if that fixes your issues or 2) flash the MK2 tar file to bring you back to 4.3
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Were you totally stock before the OTA? If you still have warranty left, I would bring it in to a Sprint store and *****.
If not, you can try one of 2 things. 1) flash the NAE tar file using odin to see if that fixes your issues or 2) flash the MK2 tar file to bring you back to 4.3
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I went Cyanogen at one point, didn't like it, and flashed back to stock. When the OTA hit I was rooted but had made no changes from stock, not even an uninstall of a Samsung app. I am backing things up now to flash the NAE again, but I want a version without this Knox garbage in it. Is there such thing?
I read that you can't flash back with Odin from 4.4 to 4.3 so I don't know how to do option 2 at this point.
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I went Cyanogen at one point, didn't like it, and flashed back to stock. When the OTA hit I was rooted but had made no changes from stock, not even an uninstall of a Samsung app. I am backing things up now to flash the NAE again, but I want a version without this Knox garbage in it. Is there such thing?
I read that you can't flash back with Odin from 4.4 to 4.3 so I don't know how to do option 2 at this point.
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You're correct with not being able to go back to mk2 4.3 via Odin.
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sponge14 said:
I went Cyanogen at one point, didn't like it, and flashed back to stock. When the OTA hit I was rooted but had made no changes from stock, not even an uninstall of a Samsung app. I am backing things up now to flash the NAE again, but I want a version without this Knox garbage in it. Is there such thing?
I read that you can't flash back with Odin from 4.4 to 4.3 so I don't know how to do option 2 at this point.
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Yeah, I think you are right. Can't go back to 4.3 once you have the 4.4 bootloader, my bad. I wonder if you should do a factory reset to see if that clears up your issues.
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You're correct with not being able to go back to mk2 4.3 via Odin.
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Is there some other way of downgrading? What about going back to Cyanogen's full release?
Well that sucks that you can't go back to 4.3
I had the same issues when I updated and was kinda pissed at it to but a factory reset and it been running way better ever since and I'm rooted with xposed installed and no complaints
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sponge14 said:
I went Cyanogen at one point, didn't like it, and flashed back to stock. When the OTA hit I was rooted but had made no changes from stock, not even an uninstall of a Samsung app. I am backing things up now to flash the NAE again, but I want a version without this Knox garbage in it. Is there such thing?
I read that you can't flash back with Odin from 4.4 to 4.3 so I don't know how to do option 2 at this point.
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I believe once KNOX Bootloader has been installed, your stuck with it. No going back.
But honestly, if you root 4.4, your gonna void KNOX.
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I believe once KNOX Bootloader has been installed, your stuck with it. No going back.
But honestly, if you root 4.4, your gonna void KNOX.
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I don't want Knox on my phone at all, it's garbage for me. Are you saying I can't even go Cyanogen at this point?
sponge14 said:
I don't want Knox on my phone at all, it's garbage for me. Are you saying I can't even go Cyanogen at this point?
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You can still have all that. KNOX is just the warrantly flag I have KNOX on mine, but I still have rooted and flashed other roms.
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You can still have all that. KNOX is just the warrantly flag I have KNOX on mine, but I still have rooted and flashed other roms.
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Ah OK, I don't care about the warranty, it's out in April anyways... Looks like I need to try Cyanogen again, hopefully it's better this time.
i have gone back to 4.3 with odin.....use odin 1.85.....*First flash the mk2 modem or it will fail**.....why? i dont know...
so here is what i do....1) Odin first the mk2 modem...2) Odin stock Mk2 rom...3) Odin philz latest recovery...4) boot into recovery..goto philz settings and tap " re-root....5) reboot and enjoy.....
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i have gone back to 4.3 with odin.....use odin 1.85.....*First flash the mk2 modem or it will fail**.....why? i dont know...
so here is what i do....1) Odin first the mk2 modem...2) Odin stock Mk2 rom...3) Odin philz latest recovery...4) boot into recovery..goto philz settings and tap " re-root....5) reboot and enjoy.....
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You're saying your bootloader went back to MK2 after this? Didn't think that was possible. I've had nothing but stupid little issues myself after using Odin to flash the phone to NAE. I've done factory resets... Completely wiped the phone in Philz. Tried KToonsez kernel as well and stock NAE just sux! I'll probably just flash Liquid Smooth back on it, was only trying to stick with stock NAE for stability and camera , that phone is my girls and she doesn't have the patience for all the bugs that come with custom Roms lol
Anyways just want to confirm that with you. Thanks
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i have gone back to 4.3 with odin.....use odin 1.85.....*First flash the mk2 modem or it will fail**.....why? i dont know...
so here is what i do....1) Odin first the mk2 modem...2) Odin stock Mk2 rom...3) Odin philz latest recovery...4) boot into recovery..goto philz settings and tap " re-root....5) reboot and enjoy.....
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I don't know if that is possible for those of us rocking triband. Obviously we cannot use the Mk2 modem or rom. In any event, I upgraded to 4.4.2 on my new L720T and regretted it, but now I'v" managed to install twrp and rooted it and the rom settled down after a few days. At first, horrible battery use but now its amazing. My battery reads 75 percent after 14 hours and that's quite good enough. The only issue I still face is the SD card thing, but that only seems to apply third party software as I can move files directly from internal to external memory using the stock files app that comes with android.
i dont know about triband. i dont have one and im not going to pretend im a smart dev because thats also not true.. i HAVE ODIN 4.4.2 THEN turned around and ODIN 4.3 due to something i didnt like...im not sure if it changes the bootloader or not, i dont even check. i have only tried this with mk2 to nae.. when i purchesed my device it came with mk2 so i have never tinkerd with the other bootloaders. if you have something other then mk2 id ask a dev befor doing anything. like i said it works for me as long as i flash the modem FIRST that corrisponds to the build. ( mk2 or nae )...and in some cases if the wifi is borked on nae, iv had to flash the modem again after instalation of the rom.. i cant explain why any of this happens....
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i dont know about triband. i dont have one and im not going to pretend im a smart dev because thats also not true.. i HAVE ODIN 4.4.2 THEN turned around and ODIN 4.3 due to something i didnt like...im not sure if it changes the bootloader or not, i dont even check. i have only tried this with mk2 to nae.. when i purchesed my device it came with mk2 so i have never tinkerd with the other bootloaders. if you have something other then mk2 id ask a dev befor doing anything. like i said it works for me as long as i flash the modem FIRST that corrisponds to the build. ( mk2 or nae )...and in some cases if the wifi is borked on nae, iv had to flash the modem again after instalation of the rom.. i cant explain why any of this happens....
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Lol I know what you mean... Sometimes things just seem to work or they don't.
But that's interesting you can go back to mk2 after being on nae. I figured that was not possible. But if you didn't get any fails in Odin while downgrading that's great. Maybe I'll get ballsy and try this later.
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Is there a stock 4.4 Rom out there I can try, preferably one without Knox? Sprint has recommended that I unroot, that they have a tech bulletin where rooted phones have wifi, and other issues.
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Is there a stock 4.4 Rom out there I can try, preferably one without Knox? Sprint has recommended that I unroot, that they have a tech bulletin where rooted phones have wifi, and other issues.
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You have a link to that bulletin??
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You have a link to that bulletin??
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No that's just what the escalated Tech Support person from Oklahoma City told me.
I also just wiped the cache and did a factory reset and still have the same wifi problem...