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The Exynos-problem - source codes yes or no?

Hey there!
As most of the XDA-readers have heard of before, there is a high amount of developers (e.g. from the mighty CM team) ditching samsung devices (S3, Note etc) because of the still missing sources.
As the Nexus 10 is using an 1,7GHz Dual-Core Exynos 5250-Prozessor with ARM Cortex-A15 (and as I´m standing pretty near to the noob community when it comes down to such a topic), I´m wondering if this device will ever get a "respectful" developer support, as it is normally extected with nexus devices.

give samsung sometime to release it

I agree. This has been a problem with all exynos devices. I even saw where some developers won't touch them because of that. I hope this changes
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To be skeptical, I've only seen promises to release Exynos 4, not 5.

They will be releasing by the end 2012 source code for exynos 4, they didnt mention anything about exynos 5. Maybe they will release source code for exynos 5 when they launch exynos 6. Thanks samsung

I thought nexus devices had all the source code released for the hardware and software in the devices. Am I wrong thinking this?
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crash822 said:
I thought nexus devices had all the source code released for the hardware and software in the devices. Am I wrong thinking this?
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That's not necessarily true, for example the Nexus 7 doesn't have full documentation for the Tegra 3 chip.
Also, regarding documentation for the 5250, this thread has been opened and it seems there's PDF documentation for it already.

So does this mean there likely will not be any custom ROMs [Cyanogenmod, AOKP, AOSP, etc]? Or what? Or they will just be modified stock versions? :S

mvmacd said:
So does this mean there likely will not be any custom ROMs [Cyanogenmod, AOKP, AOSP, etc]? Or what? Or they will just be modified stock versions? :S
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Even if the source code is unavailable, the blobs needed to run AOSP-based versions (CM, AOKP, etc. etc.) are there, so no need to worry.

josuetenista said:
They will be releasing by the end 2012 source code for exynos 4, they didnt mention anything about exynos 5. Maybe they will release source code for exynos 5 when they launch exynos 6. Thanks samsung
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can you provide the source of this information
thanks

_Raziel666 said:
Even if the source code is unavailable, the blobs needed to run AOSP-based versions (CM, AOKP, etc. etc.) are there, so no need to worry.
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This...

Despyse said:
This...
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uhm...."this" is the content of your second post on this board? (scnr)

brooon said:
uhm...."this" is the content of your second post on this board? (scnr)
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Does it matter? But no, I had another account, no longer have access to it. (better? -__- ) I'm a themer... not a noob. -__-

Samsung will probably release it, they did notice members from Team Hacksung and Cyanogenmod complaining about the lack of source codes and will release them late this year.

Despyse said:
Does it matter? But no, I had another account, don't use it. I'm a themer... not a noob. -__-
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It's against the TOS to have multiple accounts.

PACROM for the Google Nexus 5 (Hammerhead)?

Hola
Of all the custom roms available I always seek out PACROM. The sheer number of customizations you folks offer are second to none! Any website or forum thread where one can find out when an official release is going to be available or at least a discussion on it?
Thanks for the hard work and time on continuing this.
"So what you want me to do 'bout that?"

We already have maintainers for the N5. And for PAC 4.4, check our gerrit or github for progress
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Nick0703 said:
We already have maintainers for the N5. And for PAC 4.4, check our gerrit or github for progress
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What exactly does that mean as far as Pac Rom availability for the Nexus 5?

projekt1 said:
What exactly does that mean as far as Pac Rom availability for the Nexus 5?
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That there is already someone assigned to set up PAC 4.4 for Nexus 5, and as soon as Nightlies starts to be released you will have it. PAC team is already merging somethings before release builds

herna said:
That there is already someone assigned to set up PAC 4.4 for Nexus 5, and as soon as Nightlies starts to be released you will have it. PAC team is already merging somethings before release builds
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A maintainer is someone who is working on and will eventually post the release correct? I did notice PA nightlies get released so hopefully Pac will come out soon.

You can build the rom yourself from source. I've been using it for a bit and its working well.

Awww I almost thought this was the official ROM for the Nexus 5 because Google wasn't showing the entire title in the search. Can't wait for this!

sign me up too

Any updates on the progress of this?

Definitely can't wait till it hits my best friend has it on his Atrix HD and loves it guess I will stick with beanstalk till it drops
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looking forward to pacrom! as im new to the custom rom world im extremely excited having never experienced it

As much as I want PACROM, I know that it's probably going to be a while till we get it. PA and AOKP both don't even have all their features for hammerhead yet weird since the nexus line is as open as it gets lol

projekt1 said:
As much as I want PACROM, I know that it's probably going to be a while till we get it. PA and AOKP both don't even have all their features for hammerhead yet weird since the nexus line is as open as it gets lol
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Actually, we are pretty close to a release and just have some settings related stuff to sort out before we release. The release of features from roms like PA do not have any impact on our release timeline as those features will be merged into PAC after they have finished/released it. As for your device being a Nexus, this again does not affect the release timeline for your device. Features are added onto Android itself, not ported to each device individually.

Oh this is great to hear... Been waiting since I got my n5 to hear some news for Pacman on it...

First used Pac on my blaze, than my s3.... Cannot wait for my N5 to get it!!

pacman is one of my favorite roms by far. because its a mashup of everything and you get so much more. I cant wait till it drops so i can flash on my N5

I'm wondering how the merge will go for CM into PAC considering they made all these changes to the core and kernel and many major kernel devs have given up support for it... Hope it's extra features can be merged successfully...
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I built from what they have on github and they already have the CM features implemented. There's not much else but that's understandable seeing the shape of PA and AOKP with their features but I don't think adding CM features is going to be to difficult
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Any new news on this...?? CM just had their 3rd milestone...
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Its all good. The longer it takes to release, the better it will be (hopefully, right)... PA and AOKP both are still working on their own features as well.
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No android L?

Looks like we wont get android 5?
they din't mention anything about system img for n10 and n4

theserpent said:
Looks like we wont get android 5?
they din't mention anything about system img for n10 and n4
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Because they are releasing only developer images to get the bugs out. It's not a final release
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Leoisright said:
Because they are releasing only developer images to get the bugs out. It's not a final release
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But we will get it?

I'm pretty sure they will release a build for the N10 eventually. Unlike the N4, they still actually list the N10 for sale on the play store and if it wasn't out of stock you would still be able to buy one. Also, there have been bug reports found from Android L running on the N10, so they are clearly testing it out:
http://bgr.com/2014/06/25/android-l-features-nexus-10-log/
I just hope they don't make us wait until the fall for it. I brought a Nexus device because I want the new Android version on the day of release, dammit!

The day of release IS in fall.

kokoon said:
The day of release IS in fall.
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I know that's when the final version comes out, I just hope they release a preview build for the N10 before then. Way before then. Like tomorrow, for instance.
Sundar did say there would be a release for "developer devices" and this is the current development platform for the 10" form factor after all!

I got a message off the Nexus Google team saying this on twitter. "@malctron Android L is currently a developer preview. We haven't announced any news of a wider release to other devices. Stay tuned!" So I don't think they've forgot about us. After all there is the development logs for our device anyway.

I don't know, on the one hand part of the reason for buying a Nexus is the updates, but on the other hand after testing out "L" on my Nexus 7 I'm not eager to update. 4.3 is just as good or better than 4.4 or 5.0.
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gc84245 said:
I don't know, on the one hand part of the reason for buying a Nexus is the updates, but on the other hand after testing out "L" on my Nexus 7 I'm not eager to update. 4.3 is just as good or better than 4.4 or 5.0.
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Speak for yourself. Loving L on my N5. Hell, after using ART for 9 months, I can't imagine using a ROM without it anymore...

I thought I WAS speaking for myself...
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http://www.androidpolice.com/2014/0...ive-aosp-includes-support-nexus-4-5-7-2013-10

The key messages here is, "...Of course, just because branches have been published for these devices, it is not absolute confirmation that this entire list of devices will receive an official L release. Nothing is certain until Google releases OTAs and/or factory images..."
I've just bought a used Nexus 10. I'd not be too unhappy if it didn't get Android L, but I'm optimistic.
Only a few months left to go...

davidsteele1975 said:
The key messages here is, "...Of course, just because branches have been published for these devices, it is not absolute confirmation that this entire list of devices will receive an official L release. Nothing is certain until Google releases OTAs and/or factory images..."
I've just bought a used Nexus 10. I'd not be too unhappy if it didn't get Android L, but I'm optimistic.
Only a few months left to go...
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From what I read there may still be L for Nexus 10 but not a test version. Due to insufficient size of the system partition you may likely need to flash a factory image rather than an upgrade of any kind. This is not a comment about your overall internal storage size but specifically how the partition sizes were allotted. It's the same reason that the N10 does not include both dalvik and art like for example the Nexus 5.
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3DSammy said:
From what I read there may still be L for Nexus 10 but not a test version. Due to insufficient size of the system partition you may likely need to flash a factory image rather than an upgrade of any kind. This is not a comment about your overall internal storage size but specifically how the partition sizes were allotted. It's the same reason that the N10 does not include both dalvik and art like for example the Nexus 5.
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Yeah I'd be cool with that. And the waiting too as the device is doing what I need it to do...:highfive:

davidsteele1975 said:
The key messages here is, "...Of course, just because branches have been published for these devices, it is not absolute confirmation that this entire list of devices will receive an official L release. Nothing is certain until Google releases OTAs and/or factory images..."
I've just bought a used Nexus 10. I'd not be too unhappy if it didn't get Android L, but I'm optimistic.
Only a few months left to go...
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I am wondering myself, that the branch has been released and there is still no testing rom whit Android L. Normaly, it is only a question of days, till someone is compiling the source and release a first testing version.

Is there an official release date for Android L, yet? I would like to put it on my Nexus 10, when it is officially release and if the Nexus 10 is fully supported.

Echo_Platoon said:
Is there an official release date for Android L, yet? I would like to put it on my Nexus 10, when it is officially release and if the Nexus 10 is fully supported.
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Nothing yet. But "Teh Internetz" will explode with the news when it comes official!

Will 4.4.4 adapt to Android L or require new install?

Having just installed omnirom with it having the ota updates, once android L is officially released, will all nightlies adapt to it on current installs? Or will that be a whole new install? Just curious. Thanks

Without the code handy, it'll be hard to say for sure. I'd hazard a guess and say new Android base, new nightly branch. But that's just a guess.

I agree with you. Because it's a new code, I also think that you'll need the whole new installation after all..
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There's a good chance from a developer standpoint it'll require major rework/rebasing.
From a user standpoint, it SHOULD be feasible to do a straight upgrade without wiping. (Although in the case of features that aren't re-implemented yet when L nightlies start, they'll reset to their defaults when they make it back in.) You will NOT be able to downgrade without wiping or restoring a backup though.
As a historical reference - many of my devices that were running 4.3 Omni were upgraded straight to 4.4, even though we started from scratch with 4.4

Well it's close to nexus6 release... Any news if omnirom will adapt to Lollipop or require a new rom?

ryancell said:
Having just installed omnirom with it having the ota updates, once android L is officially released, will all nightlies adapt to it on current installs? Or will that be a whole new install? Just curious. Thanks
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If you mean "will moving to L require a wipe?" - Only if we screw something up. Android is designed to allow for seamless upgrades from one version to another, in fact, in the commercial world, requiring a wipe to upgrade will render you ineligible for GMS (gapps) licensing I'm fairly certain.
As to "all nightlies" - probably quite a few devices are going to get dropped with L. Almost surely the Exynos 4210 family, good chance quite a few of the Exynos 4412 family (I'd prefer to make it ALL of them tbh, and get that hell platform out of our codebase...), and probably a few other devices.
Other than Exynos4, we won't know until L gets released.

I'm on the sprint galaxy nexus which just recently got support for omnirom. Hopefully it will get L.. It will save me buying the nexus 6 as I will be happy to upgrade and keep my device. Great job/rom.

Entropy512 said:
...quite a few of the Exynos 4412 family...
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My heart...

Entropy512 said:
a few of the Exynos 4412 family (I'd prefer to make it ALL of them tbh, and get that hell platform out of our codebase...).
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oh man, I really do hope you guys manage to get L on my Note 2. There's quite a few of us out there, and it would be oh so nice not having to upgrade our hardware.

And are Omni people already working with Android 5.0 or they need to wait for official release?

j2002 said:
And are Omni people already working with Android 5.0 or they need to wait for official release?
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Wait for the code drop to happen. Should not take long.
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shri_chanakya said:
Wait for the code drop to happen. Should not take long.
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Unless Google drops source earlier than normal (read: typically not until a few days after the first OTAs go out to Nexus devices), I wouldn't expect work to even start until November. (Since it sounds like the earliest OTAs and devices shipping are going to be November 3, which means that's the earliest possible date to even think about doing work unless Google drops source earlier than they ever have in the history of Android.)

CM14 Nexus 6p

There is any new on the horizon for cm14 on Nexus 6p? I searched a lot around the forums but did not find something...

vagenrider said:
There is any new on the horizon for cm14 on Nexus 6p? I searched a lot around the forums but did not find something...
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You found nothing because there's nothing, they just announced they'll release it but google has still to release most of the blobs,so you'll have to wait for cm14

That's weird because there's cm14 builds up for oneplus one and nexus 5. Guess they still have a lot more dev support than we do, though.

xxBrun0xx said:
That's weird because there's cm14 builds up for oneplus one and nexus 5. Guess they still have a lot more dev support than we do, though.
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Really? Are they full cm14 or just a stock-ish android nougat port for these devices?

Pretty sure cm14 is stock nougat at this point.

My only thoughts on this are why has Nexus 6P not had the cm-14.0 branch pushed yet? You'd think with it being a nexus device it would have been one of the first to get at least the device sources updated.
There are several different devices with this branch and work done so far, but nothing yet for the 6P.
Just find it odd, regardless of actual progress on CM14 itself.

Why is everyone in such a rush man?
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Jammol said:
Why is everyone in such a rush man?
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It is not that rush so much my friend.. simply had this wonder like many other users I guess
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My only thoughts on this are why has Nexus 6P not had the cm-14.0 branch pushed yet? You'd think with it being a nexus device it would have been one of the first to get at least the device sources updated.
There are several different devices with this branch and work done so far, but nothing yet for the 6P.
Just find it odd, regardless of actual progress on CM14 itself.
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I agree with you and will also add that I expected more development on this device
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Pretty sure cm14 is stock nougat at this point.
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Really? Are they full cm14 or just a stock-ish android nougat port for these devices?
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i think stock'ish

vagenrider said:
It is not that rush so much my friend.. simply had this wonder like many other users I guess
I agree with you and will also add that I expected more development on this device
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It just seems like everyone wants things now now now. Factory images barely got put up yesterday? As far as development goes, I'm one of those old school flashers, there's only so much you can do with the same software. Pretty much all of the Roms are the same, with the same tweaks just under a different name. Am I the only that has thought this? ?
I feel like there's a lot of development for this device but it just all seems like the same. Then again, maybe everyone just wants more "development" to satisfy our flasholic syndrome???
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You don't have to be so pompous.

Really though, give it a few weeks at least. The last thing you want is a super early new major CM version. (or really any new Android version jump). Even as a old time Flashaholic, going from a major version (4.X-5.0) (5.X-6.0) is always a bit jaring in the lack of polish and stability as not only does the OS need some patching to fix bugs that inevitably exist, but the Apps aren't ready yet.
I have to admit, that 6.0.1 has been pretty darn smooth and unlike the 5.X days, 5.1 was ok when it was polished but the early 5.0 days was downright retarded (though pretty vs KK before it). And KK itself was great around 4.4.2-4.4.4 as well.
But on top of that, I love CM from the old days, but man first version were always a crapshoot and while they might perform ok for a bit, usually on all my devices after a few weeks of use would show some major signs of underlying bugs that took months to patch out, if ever. :/
As far as stability goes, I am sticking with Pure Nexus's 8/21 build and ElementalX's 1.22 Kernel build until 7.1 drops or something because this is the most stable my 6P has been in months. Closest it's been to running like the HTC10 which has been polished to a pretty dang good shine from HTC since its release as well. Prior to this, random slowdowns or the occasional random reboot were getting a bit annoying, and I don't see Android 7.0.0 being anywhere near stable enough to DD right now...

Jammol said:
It just seems like everyone wants things now now now. Factory images barely got put up yesterday? As far as development goes, I'm one of those old school flashers, there's only so much you can do with the same software. Pretty much all of the Roms are the same, with the same tweaks just under a different name. Am I the only that has thought this? ?
I feel like there's a lot of development for this device but it just all seems like the same. Then again, maybe everyone just wants more "development" to satisfy our flasholic syndrome???
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You have a point, which is why I get excited when I see something with a new name, but the exact same features as resurrection, aicp, du, etc...Enjoy the work of those who wanna make the ROMs, but OP has a point...
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hope we will see soon an unofficial build!

I had tried this: http://www.cyanogenmods.org/forums/topic/nexus-6p-cm14-cyanogenmod-14-nougat-7-0-rom/
The conclusion is it can't find the sim card (China Unicom), and I can't downgrade to cm13, and can't flash to cm13, it always stuck in the boot.
Now I am using the official Naught from Google.

You mean like this thread you clearly missed in the development forum
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6p/development/rom-cyanogenmod-14-0-t3470615