Do you think our phone will receive the 4.4 update? Let's see..
https://motorola-global-en-uk.custh...iMW9uT2JjRWwiLCJzZXNzaW9uSUQiOiIxb25PYmNFbCJ9
Edit: Well guys, it's official now..hope razr I will receive android 4.4 soon..
[STATUS]
MOTOROLA RAZR i
The device runs KitKat 4.4
And the future plan is....
"This device will remain on Android 4.1.2 (Jelly Bean)"
They do owe us an answer about upcoming support and they are taking long on it. But i don't know if that answer's gonna be upgrading or letting phones die. I mean, they announced and released moto x, and then they just announced another line of phones. Only ones with secure upgrades are d1 and d3 and it's only for 4.2... Things ain't looking pretty good for razrs
RAZR I is 13 months and 2 weeks old, google keeps 18 months support for nexus line, and wants to kill fragmentation with Android 4.4, who supposedly should work smoothly even on older hardware - so, theoretically, I think there is still some chance for RAZR I ... but Motorola still is not google, and I've read somewhere that RAZR I was an experiment for Motorola because of Intel processor, I think that now everything depends if that experiment succeeded. Maybe also Intel would have something to say, but they have already new architecture out.
So, considering all above I'll give 50/50 for an update to 4.4.
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the thing is, the razr I is still being sold on many markets, at least in Arg, Brazil, and the UK, not updating this device will be catastrophic, I mean you are OUTDATING a device that you *still* sell? its idiotic, if thats the case, I'm NEVER going to buy from motorola again, I partially bought this device because of the promise of delivering new software updates, and yet, we still are in a version that was released BEFORE the launch of our device.
TBH, I have faith, the razr HD developer edition was confirmed to recieve the update, and that probably means the M too, so I think we could recieve it as well, however it will be the last update for sure.
I hope so ) i was going to sell my Nexus 4 to buy a RazRi (AGAIN) It's such a nice phone i wish CyanogenMod released a rom for it then i would sell up and get the RazRi back
I don't think we'll get 4.4. Maybe 4.3 if we're lucky. Intel have a big part in this too, and whether they co-operate or not is important.
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Motorola is skipping 4.3 update, so Kit Kat or no new updates at all.
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http://www.gsmarena.com/newscomm-7107.php
seems like our device may be skipped..
totex71 said:
http://www.gsmarena.com/newscomm-7107.php
seems like our device may be skipped..
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It doesn't say anything, gsmarena is just picking the info by motorola, the only devices confirmed to be remaining on jb are the first razr line, ours is in "future plans coming soon"
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http://www.gsmarena.com/newscomm-7107.php
seems like our device may be skipped..
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What makes you think that? You realise there isn't a single mention of older Motorola devices. Jumping to conclusions too soon..
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the thing is, the razr I is still being sold on many markets, at least in Arg, Brazil, and the UK, not updating this device will be catastrophic, I mean you are OUTDATING a device that you *still* sell? its idiotic, if thats the case, I'm NEVER going to buy from motorola again, I partially bought this device because of the promise of delivering new software updates, and yet, we still are in a version that was released BEFORE the launch of our device.
TBH, I have faith, the razr HD developer edition was confirmed to recieve the update, and that probably means the M too, so I think we could recieve it as well, however it will be the last update for sure.
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My previous phone (sony xperia sola) didn't receive an official jelly bean update even if it was still on market.But i don't believe that intel will let the phone die so soon.
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http://www.gsmarena.com/newscomm-7107.php
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Those phones are on american market only..no official news for the european line yet.
antkalaitzakis96 said:
My previous phone (sony xperia sola) didn't receive an official jelly bean update even if it is still on market.But i don't believe that intel will let the phone die so soon.
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Well, sony has a bazillions of phones, sola is a low end device, and they have their own skin. Moto on the other hand, doesnt have a custom skin anymore, on some markets (UK) they offer 2 devices only (razr i, razr hd), and ours was (still is actually) a mid range. So I think we have a chance, is not the same situation.
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I think, we will stay and die on 4.1.2
Main problem is, that every country which is not called USA is "Rest Of The World" for Motorola. And in USA the Razr I is not available.
Next thing is, that the Razr I was sold before Moto was bought from google. So the old pipeline doesn't exist anymore.
I don't care much if we get updates or not. All I want is just a cyanogenmod support which we might be getting soon. Cyanogenmod is a beast which makes our phone is much more usable. Been using it since old Milestone 2. I'm using it as a daily driver on my Photon Q. Will be loving it more if it's available on Razr i. Never experience it on an Intel devices yet.
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Well I just wrote on the Punit Soni (VP, Product Management at Motorola Mobility (Google)) google plus profile this:
You better update the razr i, its still your flagship in many countries, also remember the 18 months of support motorola REMEMBER, you promise ;_;
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and he did a +1 on my comment and wrote:
Actions are better than words
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so he is either making fun of us for believing in moto (lol) or is just a hint.
Also, intel android kernel for atom devices is up to 3.8 (same version as KitKat).
I want to believe
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Well I just wrote on the Punit Soni (VP, Product Management at Motorola Mobility (Google)) google plus profile this:
and he did a +1 on my comment and wrote:
so he is either making fun of us for believing in moto (lol) or is just a hint.
Also, intel android kernel for atom devices is up to 3.8 (same version as KitKat).
I want to believe
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Time will tell..
Best thing to do is to drink some tea in the meantime...
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Came to bring you some infos
I was looking for the news on a local brazilian website called Baixaki and found this.
http://www.tecmundo.com.br/kitkat/4...s-sao-os-aparelhos-com-suporte-ao-sistema.htm
It's in Portuguese so i'll translate for you. Forget about the text. Look for the facebook comments.
According to Wesley Albertto and Walter Figueiredo, they've contacted MotorolaBR support looking for the 4.4 update to Razr I and surprisely they answered razr hd and i will receive 4.4. Moto will skip 4.2 and 4.3 and go straight to kit kat, toguether with razr d1 and d3.
Hope you guys find more info, and sorry for my bad english
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The farce is over, original post's author was blocked in that forum.
Sorry for bring such rumor here and spamming you in last few weeks, so sorry. I'm working on collecting and reporting argen2stone 1.9's feedbacks on Chinese forum for making a better next release.
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I just see this post at a Chinese android phone forum:
Milestone 2将在5月16日升级Android 2.3,请大家耐心等待 ( Milestone 2 will be upgrade to Android 2.3 on 16th,May, please be patient )
http://bbs.gfan.com/android-1256936-1-1.html(Chinese contents)
Original post said( sorry for my terrible English ):
I heard some internal information: Milestone 2 will be upgrade to Android 2.3 on 16th,May, please don't ask me where I got it. I'm a professor here so please believe that I never talk nonsense, that's true.
Be patient please, If this update is not released before midnight of 17th, I will eat my phone, my computer case, my monitor, my speakers, even my computer desk.
Just wait for it.
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I don't know whether it's true, at least this post bring hopes to MS2's users.
If this is true then.... Cooooollllll !!!
Would absolutely be amazing. Don't know if I'm gonna believe it, though. Too much disappointment already...
Very good :-D
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It is forum of mainland China, aren't their ROM build has some different from other regions?
But I do hope it is real
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But wasn't it you, waigx, who said that Hongkong manager said there wont be an update for the milestone 2?
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oTToToTenTanz said:
But wasn't it you, waigx, who said that Hongkong manager said there wont be an update for the milestone 2?
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Yes, I really said that in another post . I don't know whether it's true, because these news both came from some websites.
I'm sorry if these make you confused, but I just want to bring some news here .
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But wasn't it you, waigx, who said that Hongkong manager said there wont be an update for the milestone 2?
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I also saw this news before
The manager of moto of asia pacific region (hong kong, tai wan etc) said there will NOT be 2.3 update of milestone2.
However, moto in China have a different manager, and their ROM build is different from us(hong kong), so it still could be true that a 2.3 might release in China. If it is real, are our great developers able to use that 2.3 kernal to build their ROM?
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im not sure how true that post is, but if it is true, it is good news then i suppose like for all motorola android phone owners, its a waiting game more than anything else.
just on a seperate note, i looked through the official motorola software upgrade website, and there has been nothing stated for an upcoming update on the milestone 2 (no matter which region). i have been checking this website regularly and nothing so far
https://supportforums.motorola.com/community/manager/softwareupgrades
agent008my said:
im not sure how true that post is, but if it is true, it is good news then i suppose like for all motorola android phone owners, its a waiting game more than anything else.
just on a seperate note, i looked through the official motorola software upgrade website, and there has been nothing stated for an upcoming update on the milestone 2 (no matter which region). i have been checking this website regularly and nothing so far
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I doubt the message refers to me722 (retail model in china), since this message appeared in a domestic forum in china. ME722 has its own version of android os, specially customized to adjust local market. However, that version is a little different from other versions. Touch screen is less sensitive and some apps installed requested by carriers. Although me722 can use firmware from other parts of the world, language may course problem.
I have read the original post. The new came from a person who claimed to have some inside information from a motorola employee. I doubt he referred to an employee in china branch.
So, it's hard to say whether there would be an update for global users.
Personally, I hope my concerns are all mistaken, since I'm also expecting an update from motorola. I'm currently running UK firmware, quite satisfied.
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I doubt the message refers to me722 (retail model in china), since this message appeared in a domestic forum in china. ME722 has its own version of android os, specially customized to adjust local market. However, that version is a little different from other versions. Touch screen is less sensitive and some apps installed requested by carriers. Although me722 can use firmware from other parts of the world, language may course problem.
I have read the original post. The new came from a person who claimed to have some inside information from a motorola employee. I doubt he referred to an employee in china branch.
So, it's hard to say whether there would be an update for global users.
Personally, I hope my concerns are all mistaken, since I'm also expecting an update from motorola. I'm currently running UK firmware, quite satisfied.
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yet again as i stated, there is no announcement of any update on the official motorola software upgrade website. if what this person with insider information says is true, what i feel is on May 16th, Motorola would officially announce a scheduled date for an update release. i highly doubt that they would push for an update without announcing the launch of the update first
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yet again as i stated, there is no announcement of any update on the official motorola software upgrade website. if what this person with insider information says is true, what i feel is on May 16th, Motorola would officially announce a scheduled date for an update release. i highly doubt that they would push for an update without announcing the launch of the update first
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yeah, i think you're right.
PS. Then i would try out agent2stone, hope there would be little bugs.
agent008my said:
yet again as i stated, there is no announcement of any update on the official motorola software upgrade website. if what this person with insider information says is true, what i feel is on May 16th, Motorola would officially announce a scheduled date for an update release. i highly doubt that they would push for an update without announcing the launch of the update first
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Your opinion is quite reasonable, but consider the Droid X's OTA upgrade to Android 2.3.3, it's still possible that MS2 will got a update without official announcements .
However, the original post's credibility is still worth discussing.
chris0202 said:
I doubt the message refers to me722 (retail model in china), since this message appeared in a domestic forum in china. ME722 has its own version of android os, specially customized to adjust local market. However, that version is a little different from other versions. Touch screen is less sensitive and some apps installed requested by carriers. Although me722 can use firmware from other parts of the world, language may course problem.
I have read the original post. The new came from a person who claimed to have some inside information from a motorola employee. I doubt he referred to an employee in china branch.
So, it's hard to say whether there would be an update for global users.
Personally, I hope my concerns are all mistaken, since I'm also expecting an update from motorola. I'm currently running UK firmware, quite satisfied.
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I'm using UK firmware too, ME722's ROM is quite terrible : Less sensitive of touch screen, No google service (even the Android Market and Gmail), Lots of rubbish, Different baseband ...
After all it still a good news isn't it? Because Milestone 2's hardwares of different retail version are exactly the same ( except the baseband which can be switched easily ), moto dev teams in other region can release updates very soon. And, we can also modify Chinese ROM just like agent2stone.
But I still don't know whether original post is true.
WongJames said:
I also saw this news before
The manager of moto of asia pacific region (hong kong, tai wan etc) said there will NOT be 2.3 update of milestone2.
However, moto in China have a different manager, and their ROM build is different from us(hong kong), so it still could be true that a 2.3 might release in China. If it is real, are our great developers able to use that 2.3 kernal to build their ROM?
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I really hope it's true, after 2.3 kernel rom of Milestone2 released in P.R.China, it much easier for our developers to port this to a global version .
waigx said:
Your opinion is quite reasonable, but consider the Droid X's OTA upgrade to Android 2.3.3, it's still possible that MS2 will got a update without official announcements .
However, the original post's credibility is still worth discussing.
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im afraid i didnt know that the droid X was upgraded to gingerbread. however, i did note 2 articles claiming rather contrasting pieces of news:
1. apparently the droid PRO is getting a software update. however its not to 2.3.x as most people anticipated. instead its a bugfix for the current 2.2 its on. so most likely it'll be some version of 2.2.x
REF: http://technewsperk.com/featured/motorola-droid-pro-software-update-available-now/
2. on the other hand, apparently Atrix customers are getting emails to beta test a software upgrade for their phone. however, apparently one customer got not one but 2 updates. im not too sure about the details of these updates as yet
REF: http://phandroid.com/2011/04/20/mot...atrix-4g-owners-to-test-new-software-upgrade/
considering the milestone 2 is no where near as popular as the flagship Atrix or droid X, i think that these flagships would be rewarded with some form of 2.3.x first before other Droids receive the gingerbread update. in the mean time, unfortunately im forced to think that the A953, and all global derivatives of it would be forced into the same fate as the Droid Pro for the time being- that is receiving a bug fix update (2.2.x) before the release of a 2.3.x can be made possible
EDIT- UPDATE:
i happened to notice these articles around, apparently announcing some form of a droid 2 update featuring gingerbread (2.3.x). Do check it out:
1. http://phandroid.com/2011/03/28/mot...gerbread-2-3-3-roms-leak-how-to-install-them/
2. http://phandroid.com/2011/02/22/mystery-droid-2-update-floating-around/
3. http://phandroid.com/2011/03/29/the...eaked-gingerbread-for-motorola-droid-x-and-2/
hope somebody could shed some light on the authenticity of these articles...cheers
Old news, that GB leak is out since almost 2 weeks... and the other "mistery update" since a month or something..
DeadSix17 said:
Old news, that GB leak is out since almost 2 weeks... and the other "mistery update" since a month or something..
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oh alright. thanks for the feedback
I'm more interested about Motorola right now, lets see what they planed, boost the sells of Atrix by saying "we will unlock our devices"?.. but thats offtopic lol.. to the topic.. well china .. i dont think that their 2.3 would be a big use for us.. but maybe the kernel? .. wouldnt we get the Kernel to work on our phones since its signed and throw a EU/US 2.3 on it? .. i mean it would be a Kernel.. wich works for And2.3.. so idk if that would be any help ..
DeadSix17 said:
I'm more interested about Motorola right now, lets see what they planed, boost the sells of Atrix by saying "we will unlock our devices"?.. but thats offtopic lol.. to the topic.. well china .. i dont think that their 2.3 would be a big use for us.. but maybe the kernel? .. wouldnt we get the Kernel to work on our phones since its signed and throw a EU/US 2.3 on it? .. i mean it would be a Kernel.. wich works for And2.3.. so idk if that would be any help ..
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it is quite highly unlikely though that they release an update for China and leave the other countries out. This phone is rather popular in Malaysia, Singapore, India, USA and Brazil from what i know. Perhaps a global update of some sort is in the pipeline...its just that the news of an update in China was leaked?
It’s always a pleasure to be the bearer of good news, especially when it comes to sharing with people what we know about an impending arrival of Ice Cream Sandwich on their Android devices. But before we do, we just want to make sure you know that this hasn’t been fully confirmed yet by Verizon. With that in mind, owners of Motorola Droid RAZR may want to mark down June 12 on their calendar, as that’s the date that Verizon apparently will roll out the ICS update for the two Droids.
According to internal sources quoted by CNET, the OTA update to Android 4.0.4 Ice Cream Sandwich for both Droid RAZR and RAZR Maxx will be pushed out on June 12. While there were plans to bring it out earlier, there was an issue with the server that was supposed to deliver the update — hopefully that’s been dealt with now.
The June 12 date certainly still falls in line with what Motorola has written on its website, where the ICS upgrade roll out for Droid RAZR and RAZR Maxx is expected to start in Q2 2012. In this case, the end of the second quarter more like. As always, we’ll let you know once we have more details. Feel free to share with our readers if you have some information or heard otherwise about the ICS update for the Droid RAZR and Droid RAZR Maxx.
let's wish motorola atrix 4g will get it in early july
Source : AndroidAuthority
My money is on late Q3 for Atrix. Likely September I think.
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What's up with all these threads on ICS for non-Atrix phones?
Motorola said Q2 for the Droid RAZR. Q2 is almost at an end. If that's any indication of future performance, ICS for the Atrix may not come until closer to Q4.
Maybe this is great new for us. That update might have something usefull for our devs. Of course, not drivers, but maybe our very first Blur ICS Rom. plus Webtop 3.0 (Tablet ICS). Idk, maybe im too positive Lol.
I wouldn't be surprised if Motorola decides to push it back in late Q4.
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I wouldn't be surprised if Motorola decides to push it back in late Q4.
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I wouldn't be surprised if at&t blocks it all together to try to get people to buy there already ics enabled phones. Or if they dont have a selection to block it so people will hold out for the next newest thing they'll get.
I'm hoping we'll see the soak test at the end of July and OTA by August just like last year's Gingerbread update.
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Maybe this is great new for us. That update might have something usefull for our devs. Of course, not drivers, but maybe our very first Blur ICS Rom. plus Webtop 3.0 (Tablet ICS). Idk, maybe im too positive Lol.
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We'd need a phone with a Tegra 2 chipset.
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i doubt, maybe atrix dont receive update now.
ruterjunior said:
i doubt, maybe atrix dont receive update now.
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Have you seen something to make you think this?
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Have you seen something to make you think this?
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Doubt it. It's typical data-free speculation from the glass-is-half-empty crowd.
MJPollard said:
Doubt it. It's typical data-free speculation from the glass-is-half-empty crowd.
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Is the glass half empty or half full?
To the Lean Engineer it's just too damned big!!!
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I wouldn't be surprised if Motorola decides to push it back in late Q4.
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I still think late Q3/early Q4. IMO the carriers will be more to blame getting their bloat on there. Then again all it really takes is one carrier worldwide, and CM9 will truly be in full effect.
I could care less about stock anyway. Once CM pulls out what it needs, I'll be wiping my phone for some CM9 goodness...
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We'd need a phone with a Tegra 2 chipset.
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As i said, not for drivers, but maybe something from the gui or anything
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atrix does not suports??
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The European Atrix is not very likely going to get ICS - back in February they first marked it as coming in Q3 and then set it back to Evaluation & Planning.
So I wouldn´t be suprised if they cancel the Update for North America. See, the Atrix is 1.5 years old and although it still can be regarded as "High End", there are other, newer phones from Motorola in the pipeline. Call me glass-half-empty, I´m just realistic. Motorola, like any other company, has to make profit and shelling out money for an update for an outdated device (yes, it can be considered as such since there is already an Atrix 2) is just a service.
I still hope to see my Atrix rocking fully functional ICS, but I wouldn´t be suprised if it never happened.
Just my 2 cents
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The European Atrix is not very likely going to get ICS - back in February they first marked it as coming in Q3 and then set it back to Evaluation & Planning.
So I wouldn´t be suprised if they cancel the Update for North America. See, the Atrix is 1.5 years old and although it still can be regarded as "High End", there are other, newer phones from Motorola in the pipeline. Call me glass-half-empty, I´m just realistic. Motorola, like any other company, has to make profit and shelling out money for an update for an outdated device (yes, it can be considered as such since there is already an Atrix 2) is just a service.
I still hope to see my Atrix rocking fully functional ICS, but I wouldn´t be suprised if it never happened.
Just my 2 cents
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I hear what your saying, but I think the update is more of a public relations move. Our phone was only 8 months old when ics came out. There was lots of negative feedback towards moto for the response time about ics. If they dropped support on a flagship phone they would lose customers indefinitely.
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They would certainly loose me...
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schwarzlichtkind said:
The European Atrix is not very likely going to get ICS - back in February they first marked it as coming in Q3 and then set it back to Evaluation & Planning.
So I wouldn´t be suprised if they cancel the Update for North America. See, the Atrix is 1.5 years old and although it still can be regarded as "High End", there are other, newer phones from Motorola in the pipeline. Call me glass-half-empty, I´m just realistic. Motorola, like any other company, has to make profit and shelling out money for an update for an outdated device (yes, it can be considered as such since there is already an Atrix 2) is just a service.
I still hope to see my Atrix rocking fully functional ICS, but I wouldn´t be suprised if it never happened.
Just my 2 cents
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This makes little sense.
If a customer sees that their device is "old" compared to others, and realizes that the issue is lack of support from Moto, the response will be to buy another brand of phone.
On the scale of things, it is not a big effort for Moto to release for other devices based on the same platform. I would imagine the true engineering effort is almost nothing, and the bottleneck is just getting it thorugh QA.
I would be very surprised to not see an AtrixG4 released in August.
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They would certainly loose me...
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They lost me already
I love my Atrix, and don't see any other device, for now, to replace to. However, I really doubt if I will buy another Moto device, with the only excepsion of a Moto-made Nexus. Moto's policy of locking the bootloaders, along with a very questionable updating history probably burned Moto's future for me, which is quite a shame since I really love their building quality and simple-and-non-cloned designs.
I don't understand the reason why there's not a Motorola Xoom 2 ME thread. In the Motorola Xoom 2 (10.1) rom the same of the ME? Thank you guys!
Hey
I have one of those too.
The ROM isn't exactly the same, but close enough that any exploit for the Xoom 2 would also apply.... like the root method.
Casey Rain said:
Hey
I have one of those too.
The ROM isn't exactly the same, but close enough that any exploit for the Xoom 2 would also apply.... like the root method.
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Thanks for the answer But now have you have a custom rom or use the stock? Because I want to buy this tablet that in my opinion is beautiful, but i'm afraid about the support of developers
pegox said:
Thanks for the answer But now have you have a custom rom or use the stock? Because I want to buy this tablet that in my opinion is beautiful, but i'm afraid about the support of developers
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The is no custom ROM's or leaks for the "XOOM 2" at the moment due to the locked bootloader, you can only root at the mo. However Motorola recently has been hinting on Twitter that an unlockable bootloader tool is coming, so if they are telling the truth this time then development will come after they release the tool. If you want a dev friendly Xoom tablet I would go for the original but if you fancy waiting a while then I would go for the Xoom 2.
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The is no custom ROM's or leaks for the "XOOM 2" at the moment due to the locked bootloader, you can only root at the mo. However Motorola recently has been hinting on Twitter that an unlockable bootloader tool is coming, so if they are telling the truth this time then development will come after they release the tool. If you want a dev friendly Xoom tablet I would go for the original but if you fancy waiting a while then I would go for the Xoom 2.
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Thank you is however the ME of the Xoom 2 a good product? Because i live in Italy and i don't know someone with this one I can buy it for 264.99€ on Expansys. Is that a good purchase? Thank you very much
pegox said:
Thank you is however the ME of the Xoom 2 a good product? Because i live in Italy and i don't know someone with this one I can buy it for 264.99€ on Expansys. Is that a good purchase? Thank you very much
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I will say its worth the money. The XOOM 2 has a sexy display, design and weighs lighter than the original Xoom. Plus Motorola should be rolling the ICS update next month hopefully. I will say buy it if you want a device which does the job. But you can always read the reviews from tech sites.
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I will say its worth the money. The XOOM 2 has a sexy display, design and weighs lighter than the original Xoom. Plus Motorola should be rolling the ICS update next month hopefully. I will say buy it if you want a device which does the job. But you can always read the reviews from tech sites.
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Thanks the last question In your opinion is worth € 265?
Yeah, it is.
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Yeah, it is.
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Thanks!
Hey i'm in a similar condition !
What would you recommend between a motorola xoom 3g 299 € and a motorola xoom 2 ME WiFi 264 € ?
Does Xoom 2 will be updated to JB ? Why Motorola supports more his older device ?
Thanks
Google is supporting it mainly, not moto
i found the frimeware to MZ 607, 608 e 616 in this forum....if help.....follow sbf.droid-developers.org
The only thing holding me back from buying this tablet is its support for motorola. they had promised so well JB ICS should be a feasible thing. I would never buy it and then stay with HC
However for the european people http://www.expansys.it/clearance.aspx?featuredTag=moto10&staticPage=motorola&instockonly=false
This is the italian site but the promotion is valid also for France and Germany
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i found the frimeware to MZ 607, 608 e 616 in this forum....if help.....follow sbf.droid-developers.org
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and what can we do with this? Develop rom?
TheStickMan said:
Google is supporting it mainly, not moto
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Huh? Google has nothing to do with the Xoom 2 whatsoever. The original Xoom was Google's baby and is the Google Experience Device that showcased Honeycomb. It was a Nexus in all but the name.
The Xoom 2 is all Motorola from the customized ROM to the bootloader that's locked down tighter than a gnat's ass. Google does not support the Xoom 2 in any way, shape or form.
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Huh? Google has nothing to do with the Xoom 2 whatsoever. The original Xoom was Google's baby and is the Google Experience Device that showcased Honeycomb. It was a Nexus in all but the name.
The Xoom 2 is all Motorola from the customized ROM to the bootloader that's locked down tighter than a gnat's ass. Google does not support the Xoom 2 in any way, shape or form.
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I was talking about Google supporting the original Xoom, yes.
Seems I didn't quote a reply. I
But Google owns Motorola ! :cyclops:
Arloc said:
But Google owns Motorola ! :cyclops:
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True, but they didn't when the Xoom 2 was first released, and Google has made it abundantly clear that, for the forseeable future at least, Motorola is going to continue to run as its own independent company.
It really has to be that way if you think about it, because the last thing Google wants is to piss off their major OEM partners like HTC and Samsung by putting all their marketing resources into Motorola and having Motorola release nothing but phones running in stock Android configurations. That would put an enormous dent in HTC and Samsung's sales and that's a calculated risk that Google can't take because without HTC, Samsung, and Motorola, Android is a mere drop in the bucket as far as the smartphone world goes; and don't think for one minute that HTC and Samsung wouldn't find alternative operating systems or platforms to use if their Android phones weren't moving units.
Nevermind the fact that Verizon is Motorola's bread and butter right now, and Verizon would happily give the DROID trademark license to another OEM if Googarola went to Verizon and said "From this point forward we're releasing nothing but stock Android devices with no bloatware." How do you think that'd go over with Verizon? Yeah, exactly. haha
I'm still thinking about getting this phone and wondering how fast Motorola will be with their updates. Being that they are owned by Google, it's kind of baffling to me that it ships with 4.2 instead of 4.3 right about of the box.
And with 4.4 on the horizon, I'm not expecting it to be updated like a Nexus device but hoping they won't drag ass and take forever and a day. This would be my first Motorola device and I've heard about them being terrible with updates in the past but that was before Google bought them out.
Unless someone here can tell the future....
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Someone with an inside source said that their timetable for releases is 2 months after a new version is released.
Part of the requirements for the purchase of Moto was that they couldn't receive any special treatment when it came to code release from Google. Which means that they don't get the source code for new versions before any other vendor unless they have been chosen to build a nexus device. I that case they can only work on it in connection with the Google Android team.
The two month timetable isn't assume h that has been officially confirmed, so it may not be completely accurate.
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I've read a few articles which mentioned that although Motorola is now owned by Google, they are in fact keeping a "firewall" between the two companies. This could explain why the Moto X was released with 4.2 instead of 4.3.
Also, based on what I've seen in recent trends, carriers will be releasing Android OS updates over the air as opposed the Motorola (at least here in the States). Some approach OS updates better than others. Verizon is known to take their time releasing updates to phones because of the extensive testing they do with an upcoming update for a particular device. Take for instance the Droid DNA, a device released close to the end of last year which is only now getting the update to 4.2 from 4.1. I sincerely hope the Moto X does not see such neglect when it comes to future updates but I also wouldn't be surprised.
Over the years I have learned one thing. If it's not a nexus, expect the absolute worst case scenario for ROM updates.
with the ability to flash roms coming soon this may not matter
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Over the years I have learned one thing. If it's not a nexus, expect the absolute worst case scenario for ROM updates.
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I'd like to believe that Moto offers better support than Samsung and HTC. The 4.3 update is still in the works but hard to put an eta on it as they probably still need time to make sure the moto apps and hardware is optimized to work properly. Other than improved performance and stability, I'm not missing anything by using 4.2.2 for now.
One good thing this phone has going for it is it's pretty much stock Android. No Touchwiz, Sense or any other overlay like Motoblur. This means it should be easier and faster to update since they just have to get the few things working on the next version. I wouldn't be surprised if Motorola skipped 4.3 and went straight to 4.4 since it's close to being released.
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One good thing this phone has going for it is it's pretty much stock Android. No Touchwiz, Sense or any other overlay like Motoblur. This means it should be easier and faster to update since they just have to get the few things working on the next version. I wouldn't be surprised if Motorola skipped 4.3 and went straight to 4.4 since it's close to being released.
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The problem isn't necessarily the skins though; it's the US carriers.
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The problem isn't necessarily the skins though; it's the US carriers.
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This. If it's going to take moto two months, expect longer because it will need to be blessed by the carriers before OTA updates are pushed out.
I wonder where the T Mobile X fits in then... Will it be updated straight from Moto? If not that might be a big problem because T Mobile obviously doesn't even support the phone.
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The problem isn't necessarily the skins though; it's the US carriers.
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You're right. I actually had a big long post about how once Motorola gets the code, implements their features, at&t still has to test it and approve. Hopefully, since it's basically stock android, it won't take as long because the skinning process doesn't have to happen.
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Motorola has a very mixed record so far with their updates. The OG Droid was actually quite good at getting updates in a timely manner and only trailed the Nexus by a few weeks. After Motorola switched to Blur though for all their devices they lagged behind by a few months and even though with Jelly Bean they removed most of the Blur apps in favor of stock, that was still nearly what 9 months after 4.1's source was released before the Razr, Bionic, Droid 4 all got it. In fact for a while there they were one of the slowest at releasing their updates.
Now the Moto X is a new beast though and different from what Motorola has done now so it's hard to say. All the previous devices were part of the "old motorola" and the X is the first device of the "new motorola". The X is almost pure stock so there is very little tweaking that will need to be done. They just need to add in support for their Camera App, Active Display and Touchless Controls, do any kernel updates/bug fixes and then test/resolve any new bugs that popped up in 4.3. Motorola has said that an update is in the works and will come out soon with many improvements for the Moto X. Is this 4.3 or just a newer 4.2.2 build? We don't know.
I'd like to imagine that we will see 4.3 released sometime between now and early October on all carriers considering Samsung announced they will begin to roll out 4.3 to the SGS4, SGS3 and Note2. If Motorola is the first to release a stable, solid build of 4.3 for their new X8 devices and continues to keep up with their updates in a quick and timely manner, it would do a lot to rebuild their name. Right now we just have to wait and see if Motorola is serious about getting better about releasing timely updates or not.
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I'm still thinking about getting this phone and wondering how fast Motorola will be with their updates. Being that they are owned by Google, it's kind of baffling to me that it ships with 4.2 instead of 4.3 right about of the box.
And with 4.4 on the horizon, I'm not expecting it to be updated like a Nexus device but hoping they won't drag ass and take forever and a day. This would be my first Motorola device and I've heard about them being terrible with updates in the past but that was before Google bought them out.
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I'm in contact with Punit Soni (Moto X product Manager). He's very active on Google+ and he addressed the update and OTA of 4.3 questions. He said when they officially released the device to distributors, 4.3 just got announced. So it was either delay the Moto X and piss off many pre-ordering customers, or continue with the primary plan and push through with 4.2.2.
He said the update is "Coming soon" as they always say, and he promises many fixes like Camera improvements, Picasa or Google Photos sync for Gallery, and OS 4.3 very soon.
"When will then be now? Soon!"
EDIT: wrong thread.
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Part of the requirements for the purchase of Moto was that they couldn't receive any special treatment when it came to code release from Google. Which means that they don't get the source code for new versions before any other vendor unless they have been chosen to build a nexus device. I that case they can only work on it in connection with the Google Android team.
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Each OEM gets the source at the same time. Makes no difference. The only reason it takes so long is a mixture between putting loads of framework in. And wanting to get new hardware out.
Moto, working with next to stock android, will be much much faster. No they dont get special treatment per se. But time will be light speed compared to HTC and Samsung
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But time should be light speed compared to HTC and Samsung
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FIFY
If it goes the way the Tmobile nexus 4 goes than it will be updated right away. My son has the nexus4 bought directly from Tmobile store & it receives updates along with those bought directly from Google. I know its still a nexus and the moto x isn't but from what I understand the Tmobile version of the x doesn't have any carrier installed stuff on it, so hopefully it will be treated as a device like the Google editions.
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I'm searching for many forum and blog official or non official but no one confirm for sure moto g getting 4.4.4 update. But only officially announced update of 4.4.3. Is Google forgetting this device for ever? if this happen than it is bad because when we purchased it, the only reason for it is a Google company.
Okay, if Google run away, I'm going for cm11 for sure. I love to be updated.
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Hrazib, Don't worry at all, i think Moto G and also other motorola phones will continue to get the major updates. No need to panic Well you know i am very impatient so i am already on 4.4.4 But don't worry the official update will come soon!
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Considering that google will most likely unveil 4.5 in two days at their I/O conference - we might just jump ship straight to 4.5, skipping 4.4.4.
guess we'll find out soon enough
Calm freakin' down. We have 4.4.3!!!
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We do not need a 4.4.4 update....
Most OEM's would skip this update and jump to the 4.5 Lollipop
Although I wouldn't be surprised if Motorola releases it on a later date
For solving all doubts join here:- https://www.facebook.com/groups/MotoGOOGLE/
No need to make new thread every rumour etc. Not many devices have even 4.2.2 so let's be happy and wait calmly what comes. :tired:
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No need to make new thread every rumour etc. Not many devices have even 4.2.2 so let's be happy and wait calmly what comes. :tired:
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^ and the fact that we still are just behind the nexus devices to receive updates. So please wait before posting a new thread.....
People are SO impatient these days, geeeeez…
It's not a major update. Please have patience, your moto device will be updated.
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We do not need a 4.4.4 update....
Most OEM's would skip this update and jump to the 4.5 Lollipop
Although I wouldn't be surprised if Motorola releases it on a later date
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4.4.4 is a serious security update. Motorola is certainly pushing the update through the channels now. It is less than 3mb on the Nexus devices so it is a very small update. It has only been out a few days. Motorola had lots of time to prepare for 4.4.3. That is why it was pushed so quick.
Use more exclamation marks please. Also make a new discussion thread every time you get mad too.
Go scrub your lolindian or lolbr with CM11 and don't bother us with useless and meaningless threads.
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4.4.4 is a serious security update. Motorola is certainly pushing the update through the channels now. It is less than 3mb on the Nexus devices so it is a very small update. It has only been out a few days. Motorola had lots of time to prepare for 4.4.3. That is why it was pushed so quick.
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Even if it was.....
Samsung don't even update their galaxy smart phones as Motorola does to its budget phones. We should wait instead of creating new threads. If it was so important it should have posted in the host of general threads out there
Come on man, this device even not get a year old yet.. So relaxe and waiting hopely
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huh Motorola is no longer a Google company, it was sold to Lenovo
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huh Motorola is no longer a Google company, it was sold to Lenovo
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Motorola isn't a Google company anymore, but the moto g will always be a Google phone, it is a gpe device for some bad word's sake.
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vlt96 said:
Motorola isn't a Google company anymore, but the moto g will always be a Google phone, it is a gpe device for some bad word's sake.
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Motorola Mobility is still a Google company. Lenovo does not control Motorola Mobility yet.