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Ok so I found these out from some service center reps:
A Mumbai center: If you flash your phone, even if it is an official Samsung ROM through ODIN this is what will happen: Your warranty will not be void, but you will have to pay Rs. 650 as service charges for them to repair your phone.
A Bangalore center: Sir what is root? No sir we only check for warranty by checking IMEI number and bill.
A Coimbatore Service Center: Flashing? Yes yes I know it. No it will not cancel your warranty. Rooting? What is that? Navigation? We only check for warranty by seeing the bill.
Called up the 30308282 number: Hi. What? What is root? What is flash? Camera? Ok our technical department will call you back. Just to confirm, you are Mr. Xxx Xxxx, mobile number is ######, and your house address is blah blah?
Me says: HUH? How do you have all this? Do you know how old I am too?
He says: I don’t know sir, it’s just here. Anyway, our technical team will call you today.
Can anyone share their experiences if any, of giving in a rooted/flashed phone for warranty?
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Sorry for spamming with the new post about warranty in India. Moved my post to the dedicated Indian thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1108787 Unfortunately, I dunno how to delete this thread.
Dedicated Indian thread is there,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1108787
Besides, I don't think any service center in India knows about rooting and flashing ROM's etc. So we basically have no worry of void warranty. We all know what they are capable of.
Basically it depends on the service center, any service center in the world, if you flash via Odin a Custom ROM or Root your phone, then technically you have lost warranty. But we all know a phone won't get damaged by rooting or flashing a Custom ROM, so they should accept it. Still, for safety purpose, one should flash a Stock firmware back and reset the ROM counter with a Jig before sending it to RMA, but I don't think that's needed in Indian Service Centers.
Regards.
I don't think Flashing thru Odin will void the warranty. When I was using Samsung Omnia, I flashed Windows 6.5.3 on it later after few months, the screen developed sensitivity problem, they just asked for bill copy to validate warranty and after replacing the defective Toush Screen, they flashed Updated Windows 6.1 Firmware on my mobile using the same software with which I earlier flashed v. 6.5.3. This happened at Samsung Service Centre, Bangalore.
If you flash your phone, even if it is an official Samsung ROM through ODIN this is what will happen: Your warranty will not be void, but you will have to pay Rs. 650 as service charges for them to repair your phone.
Worldwide that would not be true a Samsung stock rom = Samsung warranty no charge .Plus their is no way of telling if Odin has been used to flash official rom .
Samsung will not honour warranty on phones with custom rom or root as per letter sent to all service centres . That does depend upon the service guy being blind stupid or not caring .
Not having branded firmware as supplied with the phone by the retailer is at the retailers choice for warranty under their terms and conditions , but if its a Samsung stock rom then Samsung cover it anyway .
Custom rom or root easy enough to spot as Samsung have gone to the trouble of installing a visible counter .
Its users choice enough have had warranty refused and enough have had phones with custom roms etc repaired with not a word said .
Bit pointless taking the risk when USB jig removes custom rom count and its easy to reflash a branded rom or stock rom on most phones .
jje
they dont even have any idea bout rooting ! I have a friend whoz galaxy ace was sent to korea to have its motherboard replaced jus coz his speakers werent workin. Am sure tatz not d cause !
All ppl who visit d samsung service centre says d same. All they know is updating ur mobile. I even saw a guy who reports that his battery drains too fast and d guy inside doesn recommend changind d battery(mobile was pretty old model) but askin him todo a software update.
When i spoke wit a person inside, wen i mentioned d name odin,root etc., He asked whether I'm working for android ???
I can assure you many country's do not have dumb ass behind the service counter .
jje
JJEgan said:
I can assure you many country's do not have dumb ass behind the service counter .
jje
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Brazil doesn't belong to that list...
hahahaha India Rocks here
nonchipmunk said:
Ok so I found these out from some service center reps:
A Mumbai center: If you flash your phone, even if it is an official Samsung ROM through ODIN this is what will happen: Your warranty will not be void, but you will have to pay Rs. 650 as service charges for them to repair your phone.
A Bangalore center: Sir what is root? No sir we only check for warranty by checking IMEI number and bill.
A Coimbatore Service Center: Flashing? Yes yes I know it. No it will not cancel your warranty. Rooting? What is that? Navigation? We only check for warranty by seeing the bill.
Called up the 30308282 number: Hi. What? What is root? What is flash? Camera? Ok our technical department will call you back. Just to confirm, you are Mr. Xxx Xxxx, mobile number is ######, and your house address is blah blah?
Me says: HUH? How do you have all this? Do you know how old I am too?
He says: I don’t know sir, it’s just here. Anyway, our technical team will call you today.
Can anyone share their experiences if any, of giving in a rooted/flashed phone for warranty?
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Pretty Funny. Thanks 4 shrin ^_^
Hahah! Typical.
Well here's a hilarious experience. I had a screen issue so I told Samsung Service and they promptly sent me a mail with a detailed set of instructions. I read through this and low and behold, they were instructions to ROOT my phone. Oh and did I mention, my phone was 3 days old.. hahah. I said "No, thank you, I'll take a replacement instead".
I brought my i9003 to the service center once to get the LCD replaced (was loose at the top right corner). I asked them if rooting and flashing voids warranty and they don't even know what those are.. Hahaha..
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ok. next time when my rooted phone spoil ill send you my phone and you take that to repair
nonchipmunk said:
Ok so I found these out from some service center reps:
A Mumbai center: If you flash your phone, even if it is an official Samsung ROM through ODIN this is what will happen: Your warranty will not be void, but you will have to pay Rs. 650 as service charges for them to repair your phone.
A Bangalore center: Sir what is root? No sir we only check for warranty by checking IMEI number and bill.
A Coimbatore Service Center: Flashing? Yes yes I know it. No it will not cancel your warranty. Rooting? What is that? Navigation? We only check for warranty by seeing the bill.
Called up the 30308282 number: Hi. What? What is root? What is flash? Camera? Ok our technical department will call you back. Just to confirm, you are Mr. Xxx Xxxx, mobile number is ######, and your house address is blah blah?
Me says: HUH? How do you have all this? Do you know how old I am too?
He says: I don’t know sir, it’s just here. Anyway, our technical team will call you today.
Can anyone share their experiences if any, of giving in a rooted/flashed phone for warranty?
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Sorry for spamming with the new post about warranty in India. Moved my post to the dedicated Indian thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1108787 Unfortunately, I dunno how to delete this thread.
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In Chennai, the service center guy actually got the samfirmware details from me to get 2.3.3. beat that.
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Jun Hong said:
ok. next time when my rooted phone spoil ill send you my phone and you take that to repair
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Do u mean me? Lol.. Seriously, they just told me that if i unlock the phone (w/c is already unlocked because it's not tied to a carrier) and remove the warranty seal abd break the phone by dropping etc or wet it with water that is the only way i can get my warranty void.. And i was like WTF in my mind while slowly smiling.. I even asked them twice and they asked my what is flashing and rooting and i was like "never mind".. )
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Hi.
I have a fault with my Note 3. It restarts itself, powers off, sometimes cannot power on (freezing when first Samsung logo appears), but time to time it powers on and runs for couple of minutes. I gave it for repairs to Phones4u (UK). They kept my phone for two weeks and I received info it cannot be repaired because it has been rooted and warranty does not cover it.
First things first:
- I have never rooted my phone
- nobody else had my phone in his hands without my attention (before I gave it to Phones4u repair service)
- I was using KNOX on my phone to keep data secured, which is not possible to run KNOX if phone was rooted
- I was updating this phone with original software by auto updates
- I never used something like "Odin"" or "custom Rom"
When the fault first appeared I tried to backup my data (successful). Then I decided to make a hard boot reset. Instead of pressing Power+Home+VolumeUp I pressed by mistake Power+Home+VolumeDown which took me to download mode, as I get known.
I only remember that I have seen on screen few lines which content that info (I rewrite with the help of google search):
Current binary: Official
System Status: Official
Knox Kernel Lock: 0x0
Knox Warranty Void: 0x0
Then I did a Hard Boot Reset and next day gave it to the service for repair.
Now, when unrepaired phone came back I was able to power it on and it was running for about 3 hours (maybe because it was cold or sth) untill it froze again and I had to take off the battery to restart. I installed app "check root" which told me phone isn't rooted, but I am unable to do any updates as "your device has been modified". I cannot install and run KNOX, because "your device is not authorised to enter KNOX"
Next, download mode tells me:
Current binary: Custom
System Status: Custom
Knox Kernel Lock: 0x0
Knox Warranty Void: 0x1
So, I am sure that somebody from repair team has made some changes in my phone and will not confess he did it. Customer Service is not helping me and I understand they think I am responsible for this fault. I found some help in Phones4u store in Motherwell, where some girl tried to contact repairs and customer services to get some answers fro 40 minutes with no results. Finally she was advised to contact Samsung. She arranged a service for me. I will send my device to Samsung when I receive some secure bag to send my device in.
However, I know they are unable to repair my device if KNOX Warranty Void 0x1. But what I am going to ask them is, can they find in that phone when was changes made and how. That would help me identify who is responsible for that. Do you think Samsung is able to read from my phone that modification time and date and who is guilty?
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I was under the impression that tripping knox would not invalidate your warranty in the uk and that the phone would still be repaired .
I also had my phone returned to me from Samsung, my phone was rooted and i played dumb saying i just downloaded an app from the play store and that's why its rooted. They where not having any of it and said i invalidated my warranty:crying: Seems Samsung are getting tough
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ant78 said:
I also had my phone returned to me from Samsung, my phone was rooted and i played dumb saying i just downloaded an app from the play store and that's why its rooted. They where not having any of it and said i invalidated my warranty:crying: Seems Samsung are getting tough
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Well, that's a bit different. My phone was not rooted when I was sending to the repair, and the repair service was not Samsung official, but some Accredited Repair Centre which cooperate with Phones4U.
I am not playing dumb, I never rooted my phone or neither modified software. Some incompetent guy from this repair centre could do that. I don't know how could that happened, I'm only sure what I didn't do.
Now, is it possible to check inside the phone when was it modified? It was send to repair on 23rd January'14 and returned to me on 5th of February. If during this time phone had some changes in software that means this repair centre is responsible for doing that. Again, is it possible to read from the phone when modifications (rooting, changing software from original to custom) have been done? Can Samsung repairs check that?
Haven't I read this before on Phones4U forum?
Argue with them, don't take no for an answer.
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Yes, you have. I am trying to get any explanation from Phones4U Customer Service in this matter.
I hope Samsungs service is going to help me.
Nobody knows is there any record of date and time of software change in this phone? I want to be sure before I send it to Samsung repairs...
I don't know if they can tell or not but you should insist they can - there should be certain files on there with a given date/time stamp. I can't imagine them implementing something like Knox without a log to track changes. Tell them to check the dates, give them the ones you have up above and insist they check to see when it was modded.
Does the UK have a forum like forums.whirlpool.net.au or maybe www.productreview.com.au? Many companies have reps that browse those sites to address concerns of customers, because they know such sites can have a dramatic effect on sales if the company gets slammed.
Under UK Law, we deal with the retailer not the manufacturer. You have to take the argument up with P4U and not Samsung, as P4U use their own Service Centres. - Find the EU Directive, throw it at them, watch P4U shat themselves. Always go in knowing your rights or they'll pawn you off.
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Under UK Law, we deal with the retailer not the manufacturer. You have to take the argument up with P4U and not Samsung, as P4U use their own Service Centres. - Find the EU Directive, throw it at them, watch P4U shat themselves. Always go in knowing your rights or they'll pawn you off.
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Even in UK we deal with the retailer, Samsung has repaired my friends SM-N9505 who had the same problem (rebooting loop). If I know that I would contact directly Samsung than Phones4U Accredited Repair Centre (they don't know how to fix N9005, so the best way is to put KNOX Warranty Void 0x1 to avoid unwanted job).
By the way, I found the company cooperating with Phones4U, it is Anovo
dvavajiva said:
Hi.
I have a fault with my Note 3. It restarts itself, powers off, sometimes cannot power on (freezing when first Samsung logo appears), but time to time it powers on and runs for couple of minutes. I gave it for repairs to Phones4u (UK). They kept my phone for two weeks and I received info it cannot be repaired because it has been rooted and warranty does not cover it.
First things first:
- I have never rooted my phone
- nobody else had my phone in his hands without my attention (before I gave it to Phones4u repair service)
- I was using KNOX on my phone to keep data secured, which is not possible to run KNOX if phone was rooted
- I was updating this phone with original software by auto updates
- I never used something like "Odin"" or "custom Rom"
When the fault first appeared I tried to backup my data (successful). Then I decided to make a hard boot reset. Instead of pressing Power+Home+VolumeUp I pressed by mistake Power+Home+VolumeDown which took me to download mode, as I get known.
I only remember that I have seen on screen few lines which content that info (I rewrite with the help of google search):
Current binary: Official
System Status: Official
Knox Kernel Lock: 0x0
Knox Warranty Void: 0x0
Then I did a Hard Boot Reset and next day gave it to the service for repair.
Now, when unrepaired phone came back I was able to power it on and it was running for about 3 hours (maybe because it was cold or sth) untill it froze again and I had to take off the battery to restart. I installed app "check root" which told me phone isn't rooted, but I am unable to do any updates as "your device has been modified". I cannot install and run KNOX, because "your device is not authorised to enter KNOX"
Next, download mode tells me:
Current binary: Custom
System Status: Custom
Knox Kernel Lock: 0x0
Knox Warranty Void: 0x1
So, I am sure that somebody from repair team has made some changes in my phone and will not confess he did it. Customer Service is not helping me and I understand they think I am responsible for this fault. I found some help in Phones4u store in Motherwell, where some girl tried to contact repairs and customer services to get some answers fro 40 minutes with no results. Finally she was advised to contact Samsung. She arranged a service for me. I will send my device to Samsung when I receive some secure bag to send my device in.
However, I know they are unable to repair my device if KNOX Warranty Void 0x1. But what I am going to ask them is, can they find in that phone when was changes made and how. That would help me identify who is responsible for that. Do you think Samsung is able to read from my phone that modification time and date and who is guilty?
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I face similar problem, no root no odin flash etc.,gave it to authorise service centre for fixing 4g signal issue, they return device after a while saying problem is in your sim but I notice they flash firmware as my own data was not there, after reaching home I found white keyboard while typing which was there in MJ1 firmware but when I gave note 3 for repair was having latest MJ7 firmware with black keyboard,means they downgrade my mobile, I connect to kies says “this device can not update.....” I checked in download mode & found 0x1, lot of arguments with service centre on the issue but they simply said u must have rooted so flag is 0x1,I know service centre guy purposely or by mistake flash older ver which lead to trip flag,finally I sold my mobile in a shop without warranty & bought another.
jdomadia said:
I face similar problem, no root no odin flash etc.,gave it to authorise service centre for fixing 4g signal issue, they return device after a while saying problem is in your sim but I notice they flash firmware as my own data was not there, after reaching home I found white keyboard while typing which was there in MJ1 firmware but when I gave note 3 for repair was having latest MJ7 firmware with black keyboard,means they downgrade my mobile, I connect to kies says “this device can not update.....” I checked in download mode & found 0x1, lot of arguments with service centre on the issue but they simply said u must have rooted so flag is 0x1,I know service centre guy purposely or by mistake flash older ver which lead to trip flag,finally I sold my mobile in a shop without warranty & bought another.
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What is wrong with authorise services? Can't they fix newest devices? Maybe they even didn't know about KNOX counter, so they didn't care much what they do.
When I called them, I was told my phone is rooted, but when my phone is back there was a letter inside telling that "the problem is related to excessive pressure or physical impact damage". My phone is perfect, ideal, no even smallest scratch on it. The problem is related to the Anovo Accredited Repair Centre incompetency in my opinion.
So, everyone who owns Note 3, Note 2, S4 or S3 (as far as I know) should be aware of giving to repair other then Samsung official. In all that phones the newest update comes with KNOX Warranty Void, which authorised repair centre simply 0x1s it.
dvavajiva said:
What is wrong with authorise services? Can't they fix newest devices? Maybe they even didn't know about KNOX counter, so they didn't care much what they do.
When I called them, I was told my phone is rooted, but when my phone is back there was a letter inside telling that "the problem is related to excessive pressure or physical impact damage". My phone is perfect, ideal, no even smallest scratch on it. The problem is related to the Anovo Accredited Repair Centre incompetency in my opinion.
So, everyone who owns Note 3, Note 2, S4 or S3 (as far as I know) should be aware of giving to repair other then Samsung official. In all that phones the newest update comes with KNOX Warranty Void, which authorised repair centre simply 0x1s it.
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Scarey stuff indeed! You have rights, find the appropriate government watchdog and send them your story. Don't give up, those bastards shouldn't use the knox flag(which you didn't trip!!!) to wipe their hands clean of any responsibility. If they sold you a dud, they repair it or replace it.
Knox was a monumental **** up on Samsung's part. If I was in your position and they didn't honor my warranty, I would never buy a Samsung phone EVER again!
Hope this gets sorted for you. Good Luck
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denski101 said:
Scarey stuff indeed! You have rights, find the appropriate government watchdog and send them your story. Don't give up, those bastards shouldn't use the knox flag(which you didn't trip!!!) to wipe their hands clean of any responsibility. If they sold you a dud, they repair it or replace it.
Knox was a monumental **** up on Samsung's part. If I was in your position and they didn't honor my warranty, I would never buy a Samsung phone EVER again!
Hope this gets sorted for you. Good Luck
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Actually, I like my Note 3, even it get that problem with restarting and not powering on correctly (that problem might be with hardware, nothing about rooted device). I don't much bother about KNOX counter in this device, as I do not need rooted phone and custom ROM. I only bother about Samsungs authorisation which was given to Anovo, that should be taken back if they do mess instead of proper repair.
I am hoping to find some help in Samsung official repair centre. Will back soon with some news after their feedback.
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Actually, I like my Note 3, even it get that problem with restarting and not powering on correctly (that problem might be with hardware, nothing about rooted device). I don't much bother about KNOX counter in this device, as I do not need rooted phone and custom ROM. I only bother about Samsungs authorisation which was given to Anovo, that should be taken back if they do mess instead of proper repair.
I am hoping to find some help in Samsung official repair centre. Will back soon with some news after their feedback.
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Samsung will be perfect for me if below three will be there.
1.International Warranty
2.World wide firmware Updates (same time for all the country)
3.World wide offline free Navigation
I have to ask OP, is your phone really same phone that you sent to repair? Same IMEI, same S/N?
Is it possible they sent you a replacement or just by mistake mixed two Notes on the table and sent you the wrong one?
Just asking this since years ago my Sony Ericsson got mixed with some others phone, they fixed my phones fault to that other phone and sent it to me lol (And to my phone they fixed that another phone faults and sent it to other side of country.. Still both phones broken but now just sent to wrong owners, lol)
dvavajiva said:
Even in UK we deal with the retailer, Samsung has repaired my friends SM-N9505 who had the same problem (rebooting loop). If I know that I would contact directly Samsung than Phones4U Accredited Repair Centre (they don't know how to fix N9005, so the best way is to put KNOX Warranty Void 0x1 to avoid unwanted job).
By the way, I found the company cooperating with Phones4U, it is Anovo
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They repaired your friends? Just had mine returned after they refused to repair mine as its rooted
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I have to ask OP, is your phone really same phone that you sent to repair? Same IMEI, same S/N?
Is it possible they sent you a replacement or just by mistake mixed two Notes on the table and sent you the wrong one?
Just asking this since years ago my Sony Ericsson got mixed with some others phone, they fixed my phones fault to that other phone and sent it to me lol (And to my phone they fixed that another phone faults and sent it to other side of country.. Still both phones broken but now just sent to wrong owners, lol)
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Yes, the IMEI is the same. I haven't checked with the box (I can't find it at the moment), but I checked with the retailer agreement. I don't know about S/N, I can check it later, but if IMEI is the same that means this is the same phone.
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They repaired your friends? Just had mine returned after they refused to repair mine as its rooted
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Sorry, my mistake. My friends phone was not rooted, the same as mine before they have gone for repair. The difference is who take them for repair: official Samsung repair centre didn't 0x1 friends phone, authorised repair centre did mine.
Hi again,
my phone has been at services twice already.
Firstly was Samsung official repair service, I posted phone in secure bag with a message explaining what happened, but after two weeks I got it back with notice "it is rooted, no warranty repair". They said, could do it for £150!
Secondly I found other official repair service, where you can bring the phone in person. That is Geek Squad in Carphone Warehouse stores, I found one in Glasgow, Scotland. The guys were very pleased to help, and promised that though the warranty is voided they are going to repair it.
They were going to fix it in three days, but unfortunately they couldn't find what cause the phone freeze up. What they done is sent it to their repair centre near Birmingham, but there phone was refused to be repaired because the same reason - warranty void. When I came to collect the phone in Glasgow on Saturday 8th of March I was able to speak to one of this guys and he explained me they can't make phone working properly. Even while talking with him phone was not responding sometimes and we had to take the battery off a few times. He gave the phone to other engineer to look up again. He opened it and stated that he didn't see any damage in the phone and couldn't actually find the fault, it seemed like the phone should work fine, but it is not. They have flashed my phone with Official Samsung's software (they couldn't change the Knox flag to 0x0) and sent me with it to the seller (Phones4U).
I have taken my phone home and the device was working fine for about two hours, it does that when is not so warm. I only wanted to check is it going to freeze up again. So I played some video to heat up the phone and it stopped responding again. I took off battery and left it overnight.
Next day afternoon I pick up my phone, power it on, and I was trying to check is it possible to update the software when it is official one (that might solve the problem). I could only see the message saying your device is modified, cannot update. I checked it in download mode, and the phone was back from official to custom software!
There was no my contribution in it. The phone did it itself.
So I can conclude that if phone is changing software status from official to custom when this fault comes out, it could also change the status of Knox Warranty Void from 0x0 to 0x1. If that is true, I will have a long way to prove that. But now I'm sure that no person is responsible for tripping the flag in this phone, that could be done by the phone itself.
That is very weird! That means Samsung is putting some extra security (KNOX) to their devices which can cause the phone to be out of warranty when some fault like overheating exists!
Any ideas?
My S4 is acting very weird any help would be great, a few days ago a touches the power button to wake my phone and the screen did not respond, but I'm noticing that I slide my finder as soon as I press the wake/power on button it responds but then it stop ..... anyone else has had the same issue ???? and if so is it possible to solve it without an expensive trip to a support person, btw I no longer have coverage from my company to take it in and have it fixed
You are completely stock?
I have exactly the same issue.Got the Phone from a Friend,noticed it acts like you described and thought it will fix itself after beeing rooted and flashed with a custom ROM (i killed Knoxcounter with that,3xx days Warranty left down the drain).
Nothing will help,no factory reset/cachewipe/reflashing of stock-firmware or any Xposed Crash-Fix-Module.
I changed the battery,used it without SD Card,without SIM and even tried the "Secure Mode" Samsung support suggested.
I`ve read some posts about this problem and everyone that reported back said he had to hand over the device to Samsung and got either a replacement board or a new Device alltogether.
Expect 200€ costs (as i do,since i would love to totally kill the board so Samsung doesn`t see the Knoxcounter but don`t know how and i think they find a way to see whats up),i will send mine in tomorrow i guess...
Tlailaxu said:
I have exactly the same issue.Got the Phone from a Friend,noticed it acts like you described and thought it will fix itself after beeing rooted and flashed with a custom ROM (i killed Knoxcounter with that,3xx days Warranty left down the drain).
Nothing will help,no factory reset/cachewipe/reflashing of stock-firmware or any Xposed Crash-Fix-Module.
I changed the battery,used it without SD Card,without SIM and even tried the "Secure Mode" Samsung support suggested.
I`ve read some posts about this problem and everyone that reported back said he had to hand over the device to Samsung and got either a replacement board or a new Device alltogether.
Expect 200€ costs (as i do,since i would love to totally kill the board so Samsung doesn`t see the Knoxcounter but don`t know how and i think they find a way to see whats up),i will send mine in tomorrow i guess...
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Why are you so sure that Samsung won't fix it? I see you use €, that means you are in the EU.
No rooting, flashing, will ever void your consumer rights. So the store you bought it from still has to fix it, if it's a hardware failure.
Here in the Netherlands Samsung will always fix your phone even if you bricked it. So don't believe those stories about tripping Knox voiding warranty. Because in a lot of cases it's just not true.
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Why are you so sure that Samsung won't fix it? I see you use €, that means you are in the EU.
No rooting, flashing, will ever void your consumer rights. So the store you bought it from still has to fix it, if it's a hardware failure.
Here in the Netherlands Samsung will always fix your phone even if you bricked it. So don't believe those stories about tripping Knox voiding warranty. Because in a lot of cases it's just not true.
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Well,i am not sure but its a 50/50 chance and i am scared that they will refuse since it goes to a Samsung Certified Repaircompany and if you look at this post here,it doesn´t sound like they will overlook the knox-thing
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=56694012#post56694012
This person is from Germany,i live there too at the moment
edit: to clarify,i can not return it to the store the device was bought from.They say,after 1 year i have to handle this with Samsung directly
Tlailaxu said:
Well,i am not sure but its a 50/50 chance and i am scared that they will refuse since it goes to a Samsung Certified Repaircompany and if you look at this post here,it doesn´t sound like they will overlook the knox-thing
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=56694012#post56694012
This person is from Germany,i live there too at the moment
edit: to clarify,i can not return it to the store the device was bought from.They say,after 1 year i have to handle this with Samsung directly
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It's not allowed what Samsung is doing.
And your store has to accept it. You should look at some consumer sites in your country. It's probably at least 2 years that they have to fix it for you (it could be longer, but not less).
The Shop grants 1 Year Warranty (which the device is over since 2 months or so) and Samsung offers a 2 Years period (first year covered trough the shop,so THEY have to deal with Samsung and you have to deal with Samsung for the remaining Year if anything goes wrong).
Samsung clearly states that the warranty is void if you trigger the knox-counter so it is up to the repaircenter to do it or not.Since i think they are "doing it by the book",the first thing they do is check Knox.If it is triggered,they will not even open it or see what the problem is,they will notify you that the warranty is gone because of Knox.
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The Shop grants 1 Year Warranty (which the device is over since 2 months or so) and Samsung offers a 2 Years period (first year covered trough the shop,so THEY have to deal with Samsung and you have to deal with Samsung for the remaining Year if anything goes wrong).
Samsung clearly states that the warranty is void if you trigger the knox-counter so it is up to the repaircenter to do it or not.Since i think they are "doing it by the book",the first thing they do is check Knox.If it is triggered,they will not even open it or see what the problem is,they will notify you that the warranty is gone because of Knox.
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The shop isn't allowed to give 1 year warranty. It's at least 2 years.
As I said, check German consumer sites. See for example this:
http://europa.eu/youreurope/citizens/shopping/shopping-abroad/guarantees/index_en.htm
Thats what they told me,it was basically "get in contact with Samsung,we wouldn`t do anything different".Thing is,i just asked a techguy from a certified Samsung-Repaircompany on another Forum IF they refuse to act on warranty if they notice Knox is on 0x1 and he said something like "we check for tampering with the software/rooting and refuse to repair on warranty if there is an indication for it.Knox on 0x1 counts as indication".
So,there is no way to send it in and expect them to replace the board without payment.
Just got off with samsung support and the agent told me knox being 0x1 won't affect the warranty. I'm probably going to root anyways, but if anyone has any actual experiences with samsung and a 0x1 warranty, would you care to share?
Iffy... to say the least. I would of got what they said in writing lol
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Iffy... to say the least. I would of got what they said in writing lol
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exactly what i did, well not exactly writing, but typing is close enough. Having issues rooting atm, keep getting nand write start failed with chainroots method. I have the SMN910U
If they can prove the software caused the problems then they can outright refuse to fix it under warranty if the KNOX flag is 0x1.
So if it's just Root running on Stock Sammy it should be fine, however a custom rom on the other hand they will most likely just say it's a software issue and refuse to fix anything wrong.
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If they can prove the software caused the problems then they can outright refuse to fix it under warranty if the KNOX flag is 0x1.
So if it's just Root running on Stock Sammy it should be fine, however a custom rom on the other hand they will most likely just say it's a software issue and refuse to fix anything wrong.
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Thanks for the insight, I have only had one warranty incident with Samsung. I had to send in my note 3 (same day I got it, so it wasn't even setup). The warranty repair was a breeze though.
just rooted my phone and am noticing some major lag here and there. Anyone else?
Comment for visibility. I need to know this aswell
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If they can prove the software caused the problems then they can outright refuse to fix it under warranty if the KNOX flag is 0x1.
So if it's just Root running on Stock Sammy it should be fine, however a custom rom on the other hand they will most likely just say it's a software issue and refuse to fix anything wrong.
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Hey bud, I got my Note 4 from NZ and you think if I root my note 4, if there are problems with it, would the NZ Samsung team fix it?
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Hey bud, I got my Note 4 from NZ and you think if I root my note 4, if there are problems with it, would the NZ Samsung team fix it?
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unless they can prove the software caused an issue, or you just happen to a rep that is a stickler for the rules it should be fine
it depends on which samsung service center.
Depends on a lot of things, but mainly on the rep you get (if he's anal or not) and the kind of problem you wanna fix. If it's a hardware problem 99% of the time a 0x1 wont be a problem. Software may be another story. My advice? if you care about the warranty, don't root. Personally my devices last less than 6 months with me anyway so I root the second I get it (after I check everythings working of course).
It depends on the service centre and the general Samsung policies in each country. In the UK I've had my tablet repaired twice with Knox 0x1. First time the screen completely died, second time I had problems with the back cover and glue behind the screen (from the bad first repair). Both times nobody mentioned anything about Knox. Not to mention the tablet was running a stock 4.4.2 firmware not yet available in the UK.
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my first note 4 was rooted and knox warranty change to 0x1 from 0x0 after some days using 5 or more pixels died and send it to service center and swap my phone with new note 4 by new warranty duration
in this case defeated knox by rooting dose not affect on warranty
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It depends on the service centre and the general Samsung policies in each country. In the UK I've had my tablet repaired twice with Knox 0x1. First time the screen completely died, second time I had problems with the back cover and glue behind the screen (from the bad first repair). Both times nobody mentioned anything about Knox. Not to mention the tablet was running a stock 4.4.2 firmware not yet available in the UK.
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That's good to hear. Did you use an authorised repair centre (and if so, which one?) or send it in to Samsung directly?
When I asked a local repair centre, they were adamant that knox or rooting would void warranty as far as they were concerned. It all seems to be pot luck depending on who you speak to. E.g. here's a response from a Samsung representative on Facebook saying the same thing: https://www.facebook.com/SamsungMobileUK/posts/651768151530771, but some others have also reported they've had success in getting repairs under warranty.
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That's good to hear. Did you use an authorised repair centre (and if so, which one?) or send it in to Samsung directly?
When I asked a local repair centre, they were adamant that knox or rooting would void warranty as far as they were concerned. It all seems to be pot luck depending on who you speak to. E.g. here's a response from a Samsung representative on Facebook saying the same thing: https://www.facebook.com/SamsungMobileUK/posts/651768151530771, but some others have also reported they've had success in getting repairs under warranty.
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I filed a repair request online, Samsung sent a package with prepaid post, put my tablet and charger in and took it to the post office. I believe it went somewhere in England, even though I live in Scotland. So, yeah, I sent it directly to Samsung.
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Hello guys... I have just bought this 910f from someone but it didn't had papers for warranty... Only the box.... My question is... Is my phone still under warranty if I don't have any papers? Because I'm thinking of rooting my phone... And this is the only thing bothers me. Thx
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Hello guys... I have just bought this 910f from someone but it didn't had papers for warranty... Only the box.... My question is... Is my phone still under warranty if I don't have any papers? Because I'm thinking of rooting my phone... And this is the only thing bothers me. Thx
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I would call samsung and give the imei number and let them check if it has warranty
May call but as far as I know samsung warranties are not transferable and are only valid for the original purchaser so you likely don't have a warranty even if the phone is 1 day old. This may vary by region though due to local laws.
http://www.samsung.com/ae/support/warranty/
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