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Ok had a play with ZL and XZ in a local store..I am surprised by these things:
As we know most things about the XZ i wont go onto those points..rather ZL.
1. ZL is more brighter and better contrast than XZ..And no the values of calibration were set to 0 on ZL..i put up sony live wallpaper [purple] on both and ZL was visibly more brighter and vibrant!I Wonder what was sony thinking not giving its flagship that same screen? :/
2. Sound through headphones and speakers both were better on ZL..Dont know why? i can understand speakers bcoz of water proofing.
3. Easier to use due to small size and withe same size screen is a plus.
And alas i am confused :/ Dont wanna loose the build quality of XZ but want a brighter screen too!
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Ok had a play with ZL and XZ in a local store..I am surprised by these things:
As we know most things about the XZ i wont go onto those points..rather ZL.
1. ZL is more brighter and better contrast than XZ..And no the values of calibration were set to 0 on ZL..i put up sony live wallpaper [purple] on both and ZL was visibly more brighter and vibrant!I Wonder what was sony thinking not giving its flagship that same screen? :/
2. Sound through headphones and speakers both were better on ZL..Dont know why? i can understand speakers bcoz of water proofing.
3. Easier to use due to small size and withe same size screen is a plus.
And alas i am confused :/ Dont wanna loose the build quality of XZ but want a brighter screen too!
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Could have been better if you can provide pictures.
they didnt let me do that there..i was at a local store..I'll try to pursue next time..But trust me ZL is more brighter..Can there be a mod to increase XZ brightness??..
Bcoz it looks dull in comparison! But i want the XZ only
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Was it a demo unit or a retail unit ? All demo units have the ****TY JDC panels. Retail models in most countries have the Sharp panel (same as the one on ZL)
I guess both were demo units..Coz there was some videos of each's advertisemnt going on once u leave them doing nothing..but cud be some screen saver too. but i could be wrong too! bcoz one guy bought the XZ and it looked same.
P.S. Also look here even pocketnow notices the screen difference..guess we will have to wait for gsmarena -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=siiv2XltFXY
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ZL uses Sharp screen only, whereas Z first batch has panel lottery and demo units get poor panels. So you can't compare that way. GSMArena got the second worst panel (JDC) so obviously ZL review they will rate the display better but it's pointless as they didn't review Z with sharp panel.
Z with sharp panel will be same as ZL.
So how do i know which is the sharp panel? anyway of knowing from the box? bcoz they will open it only if i buy it!
XZ brightness is fine, whatever you and the others say is exaggerations!
I just received my ZL on Friday, i must say the ZL is more comfortable to hold in my hand and screen is a bit better. sad but going to sell my Z soon
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Xperia z has infrared option...?
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gclancer said:
I just received my ZL on Friday, i must say the ZL is more comfortable to hold in my hand and screen is a bit better. sad but going to sell my Z soon
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Do you have a picture that shows the screen of the z and zl? I am quite curious because i am about to get the zl but is discouraged after reading reviews regarding the screen of the z.
Did you tried to uncheck AutoBrightness, and set the brightness level at maximum level? Doing so i found XZ to be very bright. In fact too bright for normal usage. Sony should tweak AutoBrightness in the next update. Also should discard gray theme. Replace it with black. Bad mistake that gray.
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Do you have a picture that shows the screen of the z and zl? I am quite curious because i am about to get the zl but is discouraged after reading reviews regarding the screen of the z.
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Brightness on the ZL is set to the lowest but color wise is still more vibrant than the Z
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its the second time ive seen comparisons like this, not only could the exact same screen be calibrated differently towards warmer and darker colours, (software, not hardware) but if you look closer they are different pictures, and picture colours could have been tweaked before its displayed on screen for exanple take a screen shot of wallpaper vuew it with bravia on, then do another screen pic and save as wallpaper. “Ohh! Look everyone my, my screen is more vivid and has better contrast then your screen! Yeah! You suck! Iam the winner, martin sheen is winning"
Dunno about you guys, but I don't have my brightness set up all the way on my XZ. It's too bright for my taste. 60-80%max.
Maybe thats why my battery lasts so long?
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Dunno about you guys, but I don't have my brightness set up all the way on my XZ. It's too bright for my taste. 60-80%max.
Maybe thats why my battery lasts so long?
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i leave mine @ 40% with autobrigthness "on". works well for me even under the desert sun... at noon.
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its the second time ive seen comparisons like this, not only could the exact same screen be calibrated differently towards warmer and darker colours, (software, not hardware) but if you look closer they are different pictures, and picture colours could have been tweaked before its displayed on screen for exanple take a screen shot of wallpaper vuew it with bravia on, then do another screen pic and save as wallpaper. “Ohh! Look everyone my, my screen is more vivid and has better contrast then your screen! Yeah! You suck! Iam the winner, martin sheen is winning"
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No even using live wallpapers the ZL screen looks better than XZ
Use calibration software ported from zl.
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JDC is actually the superior panel.
Please see the thread on panel identification. Someone posted comparison pics.
Sharp Panel is inferior and abysmal.
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No even using live wallpapers the ZL screen looks better than XZ
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I agree. Compared my Zl screen with three XZ screens at two different sony stores & found that ZL screen indeed has better viewing angles & colour vibrance than those on XZs. I tested same wallpaper using album app at full brightness & bravia engine enabled (adapt to light checked) in all the units. Sorry that i can't provide any photos of the same.
Hey guys,
I wanna show you a quick comparison gallery that I just did with my iPhone 4S since I received two Xperia Z with Sharp and JDC display.
I know the picture quality is not the best but I don't have any other camera at the moment.
I still don't know which display is the best, are very different from each other...What do you think?
All the pictures with the Sony stock images are taken with the luminosity at 50% the others are all at 100%.
Comparison Gallery - Flash
Comparison Gallery - Dropbox
I hope this can be useful to you all.
eduardschulze said:
Hey guys,
I wanna show you a quick comparison gallery that I just did with my iPhone 4S since I received two Xperia Z with Sharp and JDC display.
I know the picture quality is not the best but I don't have any other camera at the moment.
I still don't know which display is the best, are very different from each other...What do you think?
In the first page all pictures are taken with the luminosity at 50% except the last two, second page all at 100%.
Unfortunately I can't post any link since I'm new here, so copy and paste this:
eduardschulze.com/Sony_Xperia_Z_JDC_vs_Sharp
I hope this can be useful to you all.
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looks like jdc has better colors
ihaxda1 said:
looks like jdc has better colors
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I agree, also better viewing angles but the white temperature without any calibration is better on the sharp.
Almost forgot, all the pictures are with the Bravia Engine turned off.
This difference may decrease with the correct settings for white balance, no?
Thanks for your work :good:
JDC or Sharp screen Regions ?
eduardschulze said:
I agree, also better viewing angles but the white temperature without any calibration is better on the sharp.
Almost forgot, all the pictures are with the Bravia Engine turned off.
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Thanks Bro !
So Any Confirmation about where the JDC screen Panel inerted/used & In which Region/Country the Sharp panel are Used in Xperia Z/ZL?????
Nice thanks for the comparisons. Looking at these it is clear that the JDC panel is calibrated different, which has a hue shift strong to the red and blue channels.
What also doesn't help here is you are not straight on, and in many cases there is light bleed and reflections onto the Sharp display, not going to help the case.
If I compare these shots on my phone, I would say that my sharp display with BE2 switched off falls somewhere between both of these, with a tendency closer to the JDC display samples with no screen calibration.
eduardschulze said:
Hey guys,
I wanna show you a quick comparison gallery that I just did with my iPhone 4S since I received two Xperia Z with Sharp and JDC display.
I know the picture quality is not the best but I don't have any other camera at the moment.
I still don't know which display is the best, are very different from each other...What do you think?
In the first page all pictures are taken with the luminosity at 50% except the last two, second page all at 100%.
Unfortunately I can't post any link since I'm new here, so copy and paste this:
eduardschulze.com/Sony_Xperia_Z_JDC_vs_Sharp
I hope this can be useful to you all.
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Shame on you OP, shame on you!
You're just teasing us by linking to a site that requires Flash in an Android forum.
Anyway, here's the link for others that do have Flash installed (I dont):
http://eduardschulze.com/Sony_Xperia_Z_JDC_vs_Sharp
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Could you take some pictures with the Bravia Engine on both devices turned on? Interesting to see the differences...
maybe JDC is better than Sharp :good:
I have both JDC and Sharp.
I think Sharp is better.
For JDC,
White text will turn into red while scrolling. (Try it in setting menu)
EG8196 said:
I have both JDC and Sharp.
I think Sharp is better.
For JDC,
White text will turn into red while scrolling. (Try it in setting menu)
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i do think the same after comparing two displays...overall sharp is good
There is a way to detect if the display is a JDC or a Sharp?
There is an app somewhere for this?
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Looking at these it is clear that the JDC panel is calibrated different, which has a hue shift strong to the red and blue channels.
What also doesn't help here is you are not straight on, and in many cases there is light bleed and reflections onto the Sharp display, not going to help the case.
If I compare these shots on my phone, I would say that my sharp display with BE2 switched off falls somewhere between both of these, with a tendency closer to the JDC display samples with no screen calibration.
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My thoughts exactly. Although, I have ZL (all so far have sharp panels) but I've compared it to & seen many XZ screens (with sharp & JDC ones).
I think default white balance is better on the sharp ones & there is a bit purplish (red/blue) hue on the jdc ones. That being said, I think not all sharp/jdc displays are same either (at least on the demo units). Out of the two, I prefer sharp on retail units (like the one on my ZL), not the demo ones.
waveloom said:
There is a way to detect if the display is a JDC or a Sharp?
There is an app somewhere for this?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2182432
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waveloom said:
There is a way to detect if the display is a JDC or a Sharp?
There is an app somewhere for this?
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Check this post http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=38922765
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alias_neo said:
Shame on you OP, shame on you!
You're just teasing us by linking to a site that requires Flash in an Android forum.
Anyway, here's the link for others that do have Flash installed (I dont):
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Really sorry man..I made this gallery in a couple of seconds directly in PS, no mobile version
Sorry about that.
wevie said:
Could you take some pictures with the Bravia Engine on both devices turned on? Interesting to see the differences...
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If I have time next week I will.
eduardschulze said:
Really sorry man..I made this gallery in a couple of seconds directly in PS, no mobile version
Sorry about that.
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If you want i can rip it and re post in something viewable by mobile somewhere. Like jpgs...Let me know..
From your sample, I feel JDC do slightly more vivid but tend to over warm by default, it was much more yellowish.
As for the full brightness in black, this part showing Sharp much constant and better, no bleeding issue.
Mine is Sharp, I had use ZL white balance to gain better white, less yellowish.
Sup Z1 owners,
Ok so I went to a store, and bought a Z1. Than I compared to the retail model. And this the result. Sony are you serious, you ruin everything.
Cheers,
If you want post your pictures
My device (I returned already) is on left side obviously and looks sooo ****ty on the screen.
The other screen is awesome! Compared to note 3 its almost as good as note 3's screen
How can i check what kind of displey i got on my z1?
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Mine is same as the right one. JDC screen model number BH904**
and the .537 (old) build has the optimized back light... the latest software updates doesnt have it anymore
Morlock O said:
Mine is same as the right one. JDC screen model number BH904**
and the .537 (old) build has the optimized back light... the latest software updates doesnt have it anymore
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you lucky
where did u buy it?
jader13254 said:
Sup Z1 owners,
Ok so I went to a store, and bought a Z1. Than I compared to the retail model. And this the result. Sony are you serious, you ruin everything.
Cheers,
If you want post your pictures
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What the hell??
Even my Xperia Z has way better screen, comparable to the right one.
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Yea will order a few Z1 online maybe I'll get a good screen.
Screen updates yes it was fixed but some changes gave yellow tint again.
I guess u have to wait for a minor fix.
Trying on debug mode wait.......
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BLEK0TA said:
How can i check what kind of displey i got on my z1?
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I'm curious too... can anybody explain how to get this info?
all c6906 come with screens on the right
Yeah my screen looks like the right one, even a little better, your case is extreme dude
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Here's a comparison between the bh90f and cb512 the 512 has jdc screen the other has sharp.
Oddly the jdc is the left one, IRL it has nicer greys/whites and no yellow hue.
I had good screen on 534
Became yellow on 257
Did a factory reset, and now fine on 257
Try it, it might work
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Where the hell we can find that SN?
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i just received my xperia z1 today in videos to me the display looked great it must be JDC displays in ever video because my device looks like the picture in the right i have been waiting to receive this phone for a while and now i can say the display does not look any better than my xperia s's i might have to go back to my s4 good thing i still have it i am disappointed with this display
wow, yeah that's what some of yall was referring to with the yellow issue.
Mine def does not look like that.
C6906 bought directly from Sony Store in Canada.
So this is the famous yellow hue in the Z1. Now I can said I am lucky one for some aspects, not all.
you are all seriously out of proportion, first of all, it's almost impossible to tell whether your screen does or don't look like a screen you see through a photo, perhaps your computer screen is yellow!
second it's much easier when you look at it next to another phone.
third, stop the bs, z1 has much better viewing angles than the xz, take one and compare other than that, it is no amoled, can't do **** about it, but when viewed from usable angle (and i mean an angle where you can use your phone, not one that you can see it) the screen is absolutly stunning.
this comes from someone who compares to other friends phone have a tad more yellow screen, perhaps...
shteren said:
you are all seriously out of proportion, first of all, it's almost impossible to tell whether your screen does or don't look like a screen you see through a photo, perhaps your computer screen is yellow!
second it's much easier when you look at it next to another phone.
third, stop the bs, z1 has much better viewing angles than the xz, take one and compare other than that, it is no amoled, can't do **** about it, but when viewed from usable angle (and i mean an angle where you can use your phone, not one that you can see it) the screen is absolutly stunning.
this comes from someone who compares to other friends phone have a tad more yellow screen, perhaps...
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In addition to what you said, the white balance in that OP shot, was so wrong into the warm scale that it is going to make everything look ten times worse than reality, although it does still show that there is in fact a difference, would have been good to know that your brightness on both were the same, because I am sure they were not, all shops I went to had the slider on max and the phone shipped doesn't so you would have to consciously have to make that change. Because I can simulate with one phone, just buy using the brightness slider the same as your opening post
I have a fully professionally calibrated screen and my phones white standard matches my screen almost perfectly, most people from what I can gather prefer a more cold white, if so +8 green and blue makes my Z1 similar to my Z and more close to the HTC One.
Both devices needs calibrating.
Maybe there is a different lightsource hitting on the right, but that one to me seems to have too much red in it.
The white balance app is up for grabs.
Someone who has two z1's in close proximity should try testing and see if they can get them to be equal, and if that fails, I'd be more inclined to believe there are that many "faulty screens"
Hey guys, for months now since i got my beloved xp z a thing that bothered me somewhat were that when it was flat on the table i had trouble seeing my work mails unless the phone was realy close to me, as normally refered as the viewing angles.
Since then ive been reading and experimenting with a lot of apps to tweak the contrast and backlight intensity but well everything basically sucked and didnt work as advertized in the options.
Disapointed but not beaten, i recently tried an app that actualy works realy well to my amazement.
First of all, its a screen filter that decreases the intensity of the whites, but it seems to work a little diferently from all the other milion apps that swear to do the same.
It requires some number tweaking and ive settled for 60% filter in the app, then increased the phone brightness to 65%, just tweak it to your preference.
App store: screen filter by haxor industry
It has a substancial effect on the angles and heck i think i even find the colors better...
Cheers
cos of TFT nature that produce white a little more compare to other I've using "Smart SCREEN PRO" . it has more setting such as multicolored filter, can dim navigation bar and etc.
Definitely looks nicer. blacker blacks. Thank you very much.
Thanks for sharing sir...Im gonna try this one and hopes to get the one i wanted with my Z
Really you are struggling with viewing angles? I'm so happy with my X Z, I really don't know why people are arguing about viewing angles.
shmykelsa said:
Really you are struggling with viewing angles? I'm so happy with my X Z, I really don't know why people are arguing about viewing angles.
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It troubles me at work yes. My desk is always full and my phone needs to be in weird angles while i have mails with open documents.
The majors problem is that most scanned documents are in white background and xperia z loses a lot of contrast in wider viewing angles.
With this app tough i get a little better readability on documents in weird angles.
Great, this app really works
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I noticed big.differences in screens in different phones. My dad has an older Z and his screen looks washed out when mine's on par with screens like HTC one and S4 in terms of viewing angles. My phone is about 2 months old and my dad's is half a year old.
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This difference you've noticed, are the two Zs using the same firmware?
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I have noticed some improved deep black when using following setup in White Balance App.
Just try it and see
I'm using UK Generic 4.3 firmware
Sat : 12.5
Hue : 215.0
shmykelsa said:
Really you are struggling with viewing angles? I'm so happy with my X Z, I really don't know why people are arguing about viewing angles.
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Really? I came from Samsung Galaxy S 1/2/3 to Xperia Z and I'm so dissapointed I can't even tell you. This is by far,. the worst screen & colors I have seen in a while.
Any screen/angling/coloring improvement on Xperia Z is a must.
greglord said:
Really? I came from Samsung Galaxy S 1/2/3 to Xperia Z and I'm so dissapointed I can't even tell you. This is by far,. the worst screen & colors I have seen in a while.
Any screen/angling/coloring improvement on Xperia Z is a must.
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Well you are coming from oversaturated Galaxies. That is not how colors should look!
Option58 said:
Well you are coming from oversaturated Galaxies. That is not how colors should look!
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Yeah, it's like looking at a cartoon vs watching a movie.
lyubor said:
I noticed big.differences in screens in different phones. My dad has an older Z and his screen looks washed out when mine's on par with screens like HTC one and S4 in terms of viewing angles. My phone is about 2 months old and my dad's is half a year old.
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Check your screen types. Depending on where your unit was built, it can have a different display LCD.
Find out here > http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2182432
I do believe those smartphones with screens that has very wide viewing angles are for people who use their phones sideways, and those who like showing their texts and emails to strangers sitting/standing beside them.
The viewing angles can never be fixed due to the tn-display.
Compared to my n5 with excellent viewing angles and a very good black level the Z display has no chance, but honestly i don't care that much,
Z is still a solid phone.
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Sony, why?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7OgN7fSbgxU
http://www.mediafire.com/convkey/189f/cr44xqo6abt2wy3fg.jpg
http://www.mediafire.com/convkey/8d86/6gc5rrrtr412h2dfg.jpg
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1280x899q50/538/PrHm5r.jpg
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1280x899q50/540/TKHy7h.jpg
May be just a defective model? Tried to replace it?
Sony loves color tint on its camera first purple then red
doctor_droid said:
May be just a defective model? Tried to replace it?
Sony loves color tint on its camera first purple then red
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This is not my tests. This defect in the software, it does not always correctly defines color balance
also
www.youtube.com/watch?v=kzHhz6rJxH0&list=UUYRkOO_tpXUtlrk4ojpZesA
sonyfan12 said:
This is not my tests. This defect in the software, it does not always correctly defines color balance
also
www.youtube.com/watch?v=kzHhz6rJxH0&list=UUYRkOO_tpXUtlrk4ojpZesA
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Cant see YouTube wid my college wifi....
Report it to sony mobile forum...they may have a look at it..
I wouldnt say a red tint...
Galaxy Alphas video colours are much warmer and Z3's is more neutral.
Pretty sure the colours can be tweaked.
King p1n said:
I wouldnt say a red tint...
Galaxy Alphas video colours are much warmer and Z3's is more neutral.
Pretty sure the colours can be tweaked.
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I wouldnt agree....redness is seen specially on the steel part of the pic...which should be silver greyish
King p1n said:
I wouldnt say a red tint...
Galaxy Alphas video colours are much warmer and Z3's is more neutral.
Pretty sure the colours can be tweaked.
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Look at the clouds and the wall of the house
I'm not seeing any problems either.
I dont see a problem either. you can choose the white balance and it'll look just like the galaxy alpha if thats what you like. maybe sony should default to that mode because its pleasing to the eye and would get more buyers.. exactly why samsung and apple do it.
also, what with people all uploading 4k recordings at 720p? thats kinda defeating the purpose a bit...
I think it appears only in the video
Photos is very good
Xperia z3 have the same problem
The video is really bad - colours are way off. It's nothing like as noticeable in the photos, with the exception of the ferris wheel. It's pretty obvious on that one.
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satchef1 said:
The video is really bad - colours are way off. It's nothing like as noticeable in the photos, with the exception of the ferris wheel. It's pretty obvious on that one.
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Last two pictures from video. It is not photo.
z3 videos
http://forum.xda-developers.com/z3/general/white-balance-video-t2889760
same. good photos, but bad videos