[Q] why does the 4.3 update use all my RAM?? - Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

So I had pacman v22.0.0, and I used survival mode on superSU pro to keep root, and flashed the pacman 4.3 update. My phone started lagging, overheating, and taking forever to charge. On 4.2.2 I had a few apps always running but rarely used more than 800MB of my RAM, but oh 4.3 with all the apps running the same, my RAM usage is normally about 1.4GB.
I'm assuming this has to be 4.3 right? Is it just me that's missing something, or have other people had the same experience with this?

Either way, if you're not completely running out of free ram, you have nothing to worry about.

Nope its not an issue with 4.3. I have few apps running with 800mb used . I am using PA 4.3. Never noticed any lag or overheating problems. It could be certain apps causing the issue?
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Why don't you check in Running apps to see what apps are taking up your rams. I have been using 4.3 custom and now stock and its usually 400mb or less.

I assumed it was the fact that the pacman ROM had so many customizable options. I have the same exact apps running as I did before I updated, but my RAM usage has almost doubled. I know I have nothing to worry about, but when my phone is hitting 120 degrees on average, lagging, and the battery still drains while it's on the charger, I figured it's either the ROM or the fact that I didn't re root, I used survival mode. I checked my app usage, but the apps aren't accounting for most of the usage. Something else is, and I have no idea what.

With stock Rom and sometimes I can see 450mb Ram available.
So what?
Phone runs still flawlessly with no lags.
Don't get upset by numbers.
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RASTAVIPER said:
With stock Rom and sometimes I can see 450mb Ram available.
So what?
Phone runs still flawlessly with no lags.
Don't get upset by numbers.
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Guess it's rather the overheating and lagging that upsets him
You probably know this already, but it's not because of 4.3. Never had anything like that on PACman or CM10.2 - only once with a different kernel while navigating. But it just overheated, didn't lag or anything.

You should have flashed the factory images instead of just the zip;
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2010312
The radios, bootloader etc all need to be updated
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RASTAVIPER said:
With stock Rom and sometimes I can see 450mb Ram available.
So what?
Phone runs still flawlessly with no lags.
Don't get upset by numbers.
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I'm not upset by numbers, I tried explaining the numbers so that people who were going to respond to me with a worthwhile answer had a better understanding of what was going on. It does not run flawlessly, so if your gonna birch about my question and problem instead of trying to help, then just stfu.
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Tom540 said:
You should have flashed the factory images instead of just the zip;
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2010312
The radios, bootloader etc all need to be updated
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Thank you, I wasn't aware of that I'll try that out and see if it runs better.
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sinndissension said:
I'm not upset by numbers, I tried explaining the numbers so that people who were going to respond to me with a worthwhile answer had a better understanding of what was going on. It does not run flawlessly, so if your gonna birch about my question and problem instead of trying to help, then just stfu.
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You obviously misinterpreted him. I guess he was trying to help by comparing to his situation. Maybe he just didn't understand completely what your real problem was, but I doubt that he tried to birch you
But as was mentioned here before you should probably flash latest bootloader and modem. Either by flashing the factory image or by flashing a zip that contains both bootloader and modem.

sinndissension said:
So I had pacman v22.0.0, and I used survival mode on superSU pro to keep root, and flashed the pacman 4.3 update. My phone started lagging, overheating, and taking forever to charge. On 4.2.2 I had a few apps always running but rarely used more than 800MB of my RAM, but oh 4.3 with all the apps running the same, my RAM usage is normally about 1.4GB.
I'm assuming this has to be 4.3 right? Is it just me that's missing something, or have other people had the same experience with this?
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Same here...ever since I updated my PAC 4.2 to PAC 4.3 my average ram usage is 1.4 to 1.8 gb with same number of app usage...previously it used to be 0.8 to 1.2 gb...no lag however..
P.S. it was a clean install with updated modem

Neet said:
Same here...ever since I updated my PAC 4.2 to PAC 4.3 my average ram usage is 1.4 to 1.8 gb with same number of app usage...previously it used to be 0.8 to 1.2 gb...no lag however..
P.S. it was a clean install with updated modem
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I've also got the same problem. ....
It's bloody annoying! !

Change your rom and kernel.
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Didn't need to change the ROM or kernel, I figured out the RAM bar was showing me running, AND cached processes together. There's actually only about 400mb of running processes. All the other stuff was cached. Didn't notice it till way later.
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Why does this thing lock up all the time?

This device is blazing fast most of the time, but it will inexplicably lock up, completely, for a few minutes at a time for seemingly no reason. Right now it's frozen on a youtube video and I can't turn it off or use the screen. The device is also unusable really when installing apps, and will lag heavily in Google Now sometimes.
Is this just me? Or 4.2.1?
Just you. My N7 is still operating at warp speed and doesn't lock up..
Faux kernel / paranoid android
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Are you stock? If so I heard people saying turning off the sync for currents will help, for Google now lag I feel its performs better if you turn off the hot word in setting. But with that you can't say Google and start voice search
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I'm stock 4.2.1 and don't have those issues. I do have currents (and various other apps) disabled, so like previous response said try that. Otherwise maybe go with a factory reset.
When my gnex updated to 4.2 it's performance suffered until I factory reset, now it's been much better.
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My best guess would be you have installed an app that is not compatible with 4.2.
How about posting a list of what you have installed, if you use multi-user, and if you are stock (not rooted), and we can give comments.
I agree. I'm running PA and rock solid. I was also rock solid on stock.
I've never had it lock up. I flashed a Trinity kernel once that caused sleep of death... but it was a known issue.
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95Z28 said:
I'm stock 4.2.1 and don't have those issues. I do have currents (and various other apps) disabled, so like previous response said try that. Otherwise maybe go with a factory reset.
When my gnex updated to 4.2 it's performance suffered until I factory reset, now it's been much better.
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I have currents disabled. Which others do you have disabled?
rmm200 said:
My best guess would be you have installed an app that is not compatible with 4.2.
How about posting a list of what you have installed, if you use multi-user, and if you are stock (not rooted), and we can give comments.
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I have a pretty decent amount of apps installed. I'll post them in a minute, but no, I'm not multi-user, and I'm stock. I'll root and put a new rom on this thing if it's worth it, I figured it'd be fine the way it came.
btw, here are my androbench results. Are these slow?
apps:
These are what I disable.
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These are what I disable.
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thanks, I'll try disabling those.
Over 100 apps in total, my andronbench write speed is clearly an error so just compare read and app open macros.
My apps open much faster than yours, which I'd put down to PA ROM and kernel. Maybe your write speed is a bit slow?
Can you download "forever gone" from market and try a full fill and delete? Apparently helps reset the memory controller to improve performance.
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Mungulz said:
Over 100 apps in total, my andronbench write speed is clearly an error so just compare read and app open macros.
My apps open much faster than yours, which I'd put down to PA ROM and kernel. Maybe your write speed is a bit slow?
Can you download "forever gone" from market and try a full fill and delete? Apparently helps reset the memory controller to improve performance.
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I did forever gone earlier today.
bump.
I just want to know if I should restore, root and flash a new rom on this thing. Can someone check out my androbench scores and tell me if they're normal?
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Nexus 7 goes crazy after. Charging!

Everything starts lagging, touchscreen is haywire.... I have to reboot to even use it. I DON'T know wtf is going on!
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exzacklyright said:
Everything starts lagging, touchscreen is haywire.... I have to reboot to even use it. I DON'T know wtf is going on!
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What rom & kernel are you using? How much free space do you have? Just my opinion, but the best rom to run on a nexus is stock, unlocked and rooted. There isn't a bug free rom out there except stock and there's no need to overclock yet because tegra 4 games aren't out yet.

[Q] Bought it, now what?

Hi everyone,
I posted a few months back whether I should buy a Nex 4 or not. Now that I did, I have another Q.
With my old Galaxy S, i HAD to root and install ROMs cuz it was reaaaally slow. Now, with the Nex 4, it's super fast that I'm not even thinking about ROMing it any time soon. However, I was wondering about rooting it. Does rooting affect the speed? it made my GS faster. Will it do the same for the Nexus?
Thanks.
Just rooting won't actually do anything but installing the right apps will. Of course if you overclock it it will get faster, but personally I underclock it to save battery. I'd say it is definitely worth rooting it. You never know you might feel like installing a ROM later so it can't hurt to root now. Basically everything rooting did to your GS it will do to your N4 but the nexus is already fast.
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I'd suggest a kernel change at least. The stock kernel made my phone very hot sometimes and the battery life sucked.
Unlock bootloader, root, start modding and theming, or flash custom rom, have fun, and ignore all the idiot trolls here.
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illhangon said:
I'd suggest a kernel change at least. The stock kernel made my phone very hot sometimes and the battery life sucked.
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I dont agree. Stock rom and stock kernel. Awesome. Provided that if you have not set sync setting for least times.
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Same situation here, from Galaxy S to Nexus 4... well, I've rooted, installed Franko Kernel... and here stops my modding, now enjoying the speed . The only problem is that now every phone I touch, feels slower compared to the nexus
KNIGHT_of_NEVER said:
Just rooting won't actually do anything but installing the right apps will. Of course if you overclock it it will get faster, but personally I underclock it to save battery. I'd say it is definitely worth rooting it. You never know you might feel like installing a ROM later so it can't hurt to root now. Basically everything rooting did to your GS it will do to your N4 but the nexus is already fast.
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illhangon said:
I'd suggest a kernel change at least. The stock kernel made my phone very hot sometimes and the battery life sucked.
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fernandezhjr said:
Unlock bootloader, root, start modding and theming, or flash custom rom, have fun, and ignore all the idiot trolls here.
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Thanks guys, I'm thinking of a kernel to save a little more battery and at the same time play some heavy duty games.
Any suggestions?
faddyie said:
I dont agree. Stock rom and stock kernel. Awesome. Provided that if you have not set sync setting for least times.
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true. Still, I wanna try a good kernel just to see if things get better.
Travel_Mate said:
Same situation here, from Galaxy S to Nexus 4... well, I've rooted, installed Franko Kernel... and here stops my modding, now enjoying the speed . The only problem is that now every phone I touch, feels slower compared to the nexus
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A GS mate! :highfive: I totally agree when it comes to any other phone being slow. I'll stop by Franko kernel's thread after root. Thanks :good:
faddyie said:
I dont agree. Stock rom and stock kernel. Awesome. Provided that if you have not set sync setting for least times.
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To each his own.
I rooted my Gnex the first day I got it. Although I plan on staying stock for awhile on the N4 since my favorite custom rom (CM) seems to be a bit glitchly atm.
What I did for an while was run stock-rooted for a bit. I turned ALL animations in Dev Options to .5 and my phone was flying! Quick to menus, opening and closing apps, and saving RAM. Battery life was great considering I'm a stickler when it comes to WiFi and Data toggled. Than I would run either PACman or Paranoid Android. Both were fluid experiences. But nothing beat Stock Rooted speeds.
It just matters what you're looking for. Try ROMs out, there's plenty of them out there! Good luck and happy rooting!
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Honestly I thought exactly like you when I first got this phone but I eventually decided to root and install custom ROMs and I like my phone a lot better. I think you should
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Any options out there for battery tweaks?

I did a few searches and wasn't really able to pull up much in the way of battery tweaks, what's everyone doing in terms of this? I'm currently running stock rom, all I did was fully update after getting the phone from Sprint and then rooted and proceeded to install twrp using goomanager. I'm coming from the Galaxy S2 running calks GB build, so I'm used to 3 days of battery with heavy usage! I know this phone won't be able to achieve that right out of the gate with the current level of development going on, but I'm sure I can optimize it some how. I'd consider going to a custom ROM and kernel..flashing seems similar to the S2 but I'm nervous!
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There's this https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.xiam.snapdragon.app
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I've never heard good things about those kinds of apps...maybe because they didn't get along well with custom tweaks? Do they work well with stock setups?
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There's this https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.xiam.snapdragon.app
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Tried it... and if anything I got LESS battery life because it runs in the background constantly.
@vadyr56 Download KT SGS4 Kernel, I'd also recommend to download GSam Battery Monitor and see if you have anything running in the background a little too much!
I get phenomenal battery life with no tweaks stock rooted. I turn off most things since I don't use them and thats about it.
GiantJay said:
I get phenomenal battery life with no tweaks stock rooted. I turn off most things since I don't use them and thats about it.
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I have everything turned on (Google Now, all Samsung Goodies like Gestures, S-Voice Voice commands, etc.) and still manage to get a day and a half with like 3-5 hrs of on screen time.

Artifacts at boot

Hello, i just bought a nexus 10 and updated to android 4.4.4 but i noticed a weird thing that happen often when i power on the tablet. Before the google logo in the lower side of the screen im having strange artifacts / lines with strange pixels that disappears in an instant. I have recorded the thing and uploaded a video....tablet is stock locked and unrooted. Tablet works normally without any evident issues....why im seeing this artifacts before the google logo and how can i fix it? It is software or hardware related? Thank you very much i hope someone can help me here is the video :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fFtcCxF1y7M
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I have noticed that on both 4.3 and 4.4. Wasn't there on 4.2.
Im not sure if the issue was there before updating since i just updated the tablet by ota to the last 4.4.4 as soon i get it. I tried a clean flash from stock and the artifacts on boot are still there...i cant flash other custom roms because im stock and locked....more infos are appreciated I would like to know if its normal and if its hardware or software issue
Thank you very much
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Mine has always had that as well. I don't think it's that big of a deal since they disappear right away. Possibly a combination of hardware and software. Maybe due to the Mali GPU chip? I wouldn't worry about it if I were you. Seems to be pretty common on this device. Now if they don't disappear, then that's a problem.
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Mine has always had that as well. I don't think it's that big of a deal since they disappear right away. Possibly a combination of hardware and software. Maybe due to the Mali GPU chip? I wouldn't worry about it if I were you. Seems to be pretty common on this device. Now if they don't disappear, then that's a problem.
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Yes the artifacts disappear after the google logo. This thing happen only with the stock rom or even with custom roms? Unfortunately i cant try since its a gift, i hope this artifacts are not sign of a hardware defect.
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I was using SlimBean 4.2.2 correctly, but updating to SlimKat 4.4 this problem appeared, but I also updated TWRP from 2.6.3.0 to 2.7.10.
Same problem with others ROMS as Purity and RastaKat and different kernels as KTManta and Trinity.
Are you using TWRP or CWM?
patzzz said:
I was using SlimBean 4.2.2 correctly, but updating to SlimKat 4.4 this problem appeared, but I also updated TWRP from 2.6.3.0 to 2.7.10.
Same problem with others ROMS as Purity and RastaKat and different kernels as KTManta and Trinity.
Are you using TWRP or CWM?
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Thanks for sharing your experience. Im using the stock recovery since my nexus 10 its stock locked and unrooted. So every nexus 10 owner who updated to kitkat would experience this thing...This issue has been reported to google? My retailer told me that i can RMA the device but if every Nexus 10 have this artifacts at boot then its useless to RMA.…also im new to the Nexus 10 forum as i own a nexus 7. This problem has been mentioned on other topics? Thank you
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Ok, then this must be a problem with Google's sources (a GPU driver error?) because it is a common issue between different ROMs, Kernels and recoveries, but I do not know if Google has been notified.
patzzz said:
Ok, then this must be a problem with Google's sources (a GPU driver error?) because it is a common issue between different ROMs, Kernels and recoveries, but I do not know if Google has been notified.
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Thank you, i guess someone have to contact google in order to get the issue resolved since the problem has been there from the kitkat update
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