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Is it just me or when you play the phone gets ridiculously hot??
Try playing avatar...download it from the game center...after 5 minutes of playing, apart the battery going flat in seconds, the display becomes so hot it almost burns!! The battery temp was 42°!!!
Anyone noticed the same?
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Anybody has notice it?
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Think 42c is ok, it does get quite hot but the phone will have its own threshold to don't worry bout it. Top left is where cpu/gpu is.
yes the phone do heat up when i try to torture the CPU, especially near the rear camera, but I still find the temperature level acceptable
Watching videos long period of time over wifi makes the screen almost untouchable.! Ditto the hottnes to from the rear of phone by camera.!
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for me display is not main concern, the area around the camera is getting too hot to touch lol. And it wasn't even a 3d game! It was the game cyberlords....
Although i can say not all games have this. I also played Baseball superstars 2011 for over an hour with no problems with heating.... very weird!
I have had the same issue, But only while it was in a case and charging...
Getting it out of the case helped enough, didn't become untouchable at any point
Sgt dutchy Try a Samsung official vented case there 7.95 on ebay
Mine also gets very hot around the camera and sim card area. I usually take my gel case and battery cover off and stick it in front of the a/c for a few mins. That brings its temperature down
Cpu's get awfully hot when running games..........
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Ok then I guess it's normal...just wondering if the camera would get any damage being so near the cpu...
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my girlfriend is the same way
Got my SGS2 2 days ago... and played Avatar a lot. What exactly do you guys expect from a dual core 1.2ghz CPU squeezed in a 8.9mm case??? You either have NO IDEA about technic or your hobby is to complain.
Ok, it gets warm... but it's far away from being hot or even "untouchable".
Why don't you try to use SetCPU and set down CPU volt ? I think it may make the phone work cooler. :d
Before you guys are quick to jump, I thought this was some fluke as well, but I experienced this for the first time last night. Only had my browser running, was viewing a fairly graphics intensive site, and boom, I could barely hold my phone anymore.
Now, keep in mind, I've had the device since 5/4, and have done just about everything on the phone, including lots of gaming and web browsing. Not sure why it went hot potato this one time... could be the rogue process theory... but it got so hot that I could no longer hold the device. Just keep a lookout for this, especially if you have a cover on the device.
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Before you guys are quick to jump, I thought this was some fluke as well, but I experienced this for the first time last night. Only had my browser running, was viewing a fairly graphics intensive site, and boom, I could barely hold my phone anymore.
Now, keep in mind, I've had the device since 5/4, and have done just about everything on the phone, including lots of gaming and web browsing. Not sure why it went hot potato this one time... could be the rogue process theory... but it got so hot that I could no longer hold the device. Just keep a lookout for this, especially if you have a cover on the device.
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And judging from your signature you run the latest firmware (WKE2)?
I think downplaying the heating issues is not a good idea. The atrix doesn't heat up much while on 3G or playing 3d games. It seems while being great looking, the thinness of this phone is the Achilles heel. Maybe some people are okay with it being hot but samsung should not be allowed to get away with it while we are at it.
I also think there's some process making phones very hot as well. I noticed 2 months after jailbreaking my iPhone 4 that it got extremely hot to touch after using wifi for a couple min. Also some 3d games started to make it hot while they never did before. After a week of that I simply restored it to stock and the heating was gone..
I know it's a different phone and os but my point is the issue can be fixable probably. I would like this to be solved or else the sensation is looking better slowly.
this is disappointing, so we got a crappy camera and now the screen heating up to a point its unconfortable to touch it? :\ im having second thoughts now
The phone still isnt released in portugal.
TheWarKeeper said:
this is disappointing, so we got a crappy camera and now the screen heating up to a point its unconfortable to touch it? :\ im having second thoughts now
The phone still isnt released in portugal.
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Crappy camera?
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jacobnorth said:
And judging from your signature you run the latest firmware (WKE2)?
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Of course, that's why it's there.
TheWarKeeper said:
this is disappointing, so we got a crappy camera and now the screen heating up to a point its unconfortable to touch it? :\ im having second thoughts now
The phone still isnt released in portugal.
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Camera works great, no idea where you're getting crappy camera from. Plus, the negativity is completely unwarranted. This is still by far the BEST phone I've ever used and has exceeded all expectations... and mind you, my expectations were high.
But, that doesn't mean there aren't going to be bugs. With a dual core running at 1.2GHz + 1 GB of RAM, what you have is basically a complete computer system in your pocket. I remember back in the days, there were programs even on my PC that would cause the system fan to kick in and make the CPU go bonkers... it happens. I seriously believe this is a software bug... either with the rogue process issuing a device call that is causing that particular chip to overheat... or it's just a flaw with the current driver controlling the hardware. All things that I firmly believe will be fixed over time.
Good news is, I've been using this phone nonstop since I got it almost 2 weeks ago, and it's only happened once. I'm personally not too worried.
Anything i should know before i buy this phone?
Like any cons/problems?
How's the battery life?
Depends how picky you are. Some people are finding problem everywhere and returning their phones for the smallest reason.
If you check the forum will will find lots of this.
Battery life ...... I had shockingly bad screen on time on the standard kernel so I flashed franco kernel and it seems a little better.
If i didnt leave 3g turned on and didnt actually do anything on the phone i could get 2 days between charges, but if used 3g the battery would go down 10% in 10 mins. But with a different kernel im getting a lot better screen on time.
As for the software its vanilla android and its virtually perfect for me and the phone is blistering fast it does everything i want very fast, also a lot of people where i live dont know what it is especially people with iphones and they are a litttle jealous when they see how fast it is.
A minus though is the phone can get very hot, I men where i live it gets down to -40 and i can use it as a hand warmer I dont know if this is heat dissipation working correctly or some other problem
Im hoping the battery and heating issues can be solved with an update which im sure they will be.
For me buy it its individual i havent seen one anywhere apart from in my pocket any problems and you can just take it straight back )))
Battery life has been fine for me, even on stock kernel (though I'm running a custom one now). As for cons, some people have problems with the phone being a little more fragile, as both front and back are made of glass. YMMV depending on how careful you are / how willing you are to put a case on it.
As far as the heating issue goes, if you flash a custom kernel and UV a bit you should be fine. Also depends on what you use your phone for. 3D gaming will obviously get you higher temps.
OP - you might get some more informative answers if you mention what phone you're coming from and what you're used to or expecting.
Battery life is about the same as any other phone in this category of the Nexus 4's specs.
The heat it gives off I would consider the same as my Galaxy S3.
Only thing that I would tell you is to have a case for it, it has glass on both sides ..I would recommend the Diztronic TPU case.
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im running franco kernel with it underclocked and i still get the heat issue. I dont use it for games i have a n7 for that. only normal phone use and stuff like social networks and looking at the browser when on the bus, or when im using 3g when using for example facebook (which i dont think is too demanding on the cpu) it gets damn HOT at the back like i said even when its -40 well maybe -20 on the bus which tbh is very bad becasue then it will condense inside causing water damage.
Im gonna wait till the next update and see if that cures it if not ill have to speak to google i think when im in the uk next month. Im not the kind of person who RMA`s for small things but my battery really is shockingly bad.
But i do agree that this kind of high level hardware is going to hammer batteries it has 4 x the power of my old xperia arc......
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im running franco kernel with it underclocked and i still get the heat issue. I dont use it for games i have a n7 for that. only normal phone use and stuff like social networks and looking at the browser when on the bus, or when im using 3g when using for example facebook (which i dont think is too demanding on the cpu) it gets damn HOT at the back like i said even when its -40 well maybe -20 on the bus which tbh is very bad becasue then it will condense inside causing water damage.
Im gonna wait till the next update and see if that cures it if not ill have to speak to google i think when im in the uk next month. Im not the kind of person who RMA`s for small things but my battery really is shockingly bad.
But i do agree that this kind of high level hardware is going to hammer batteries it has 4 x the power of my old xperia arc......
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Out of curiosity, have you checked the binning of your processor (fast, nominal, slow)?
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I got my nexus 4 just 2 days ago and I have an annoying static noise during calls while using earpiece. Will have to RMA it.
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Out of curiosity, have you checked the binning of your processor (fast, nominal, slow)?
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I havent i will
and report back
I have something to add that I forgot to mention in my first post.
The touch response sensitivity on the Nexus 4 takes a bit getting use to..its a bit "off"
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I've had my nexus 4 since dec 13 it's the first batch.. The only problem I've encountered is back where the camera is It's got a little rattling noise .. Other than that I'm quite happy with my purchase:good:
Got my phone on day one. The issue I have had with the phone is it came with these forums. Best phone I have ever owned other then that. Lol
This phone is absolutely brilliant. I would put it at a 9/10, losing 1 point for the camera.
It's cooler than the SGS3 temperature wise, it's well built, it's super fast and has great battery life. Volumes are loud, earpiece speaker is clear and as loud as a jet engine, the screen is absolutely gorgeous.
On AOKP milestone build 1, with franko kernel, I get around 20 hours standby, and 4.5 hours screen on time with moderate use. Thats with some form of data on permanently apart from at night (standby time includes sleep at night lol)
Once google release good camera software, nexus will take over. Camera is a 6/10 for me.
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I don´t think/feel so. But the other points 100% agree.
I'm coming from the HTC Amaze, that has an amazing battery but I'm leaving that phone because of the battery and the reboot problem.
and can you guys give me a little more information on the camera? Like pictures you guys took, and I heard the battery can compete with the Samsung galaxy 2
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I'm coming from the HTC Amaze, that has an amazing battery but I'm leaving that phone because of the battery and the reboot problem.
and can you guys give me a little more information on the camera? Like pictures you guys took, and I heard the battery can compete with the Samsung galaxy 2
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Some people in this thread have been discussing camera issues. There are also a bunch of pictures taken by the N4 there. The gist of it is that low light performance may not be up to everyone's standards, but (again) it depends on how picky you are about these things. If it bothers you, you may be able to work around it by using a third-party camera app - there's some debate about whether the problem is hardware- or software-related.
My personal impression is that the camera is good enough for my uses, but then again I'm not a photography buff, so take that opinion with a grain of salt
I could easily recommend this phone to anyone. The battery is what it is, I get 3-4 hours of screen on time. I do have a charger at work and home and in the car, so it's a non-issue for me. The screen is beautiful. The phone is insanely fast. The heat issues I think are non-issues, the back is glass which is a much better conductor, so all that really means is the glass back heats up to cool off the processor, plastic backed phones don't have a huge thermal plate to dissipate heat. I'd call the phone a 9.5/10 especially if you can get it straight from Google for their price. (good luck)
The biggest issue this phone has is that no one can get their hands on one.
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The biggest issue this phone has is that no one can get their hands on one.
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So true. I'm lucky I got mine!
But I love this phone. Battery isn't the best but it is still fine for me. It operates great! I love it!
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charger04 said:
So true. I'm lucky I got mine!
But I love this phone. Battery isn't the best but it is still fine for me. It operates great! I love it!
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I'm still waiting for a good offer...
I'm just buying mine's in the T-mobile store
I have a poor upgrade experience from S3->S4 T-Mobile 16GB version. I'm actually considering selling the S4 after only 10 days to be honest.
It's laggy, especially in the browser. When scrolling it's like it's with 25FPS. Very far from the smooth S3 experience. And when I try to scroll, it's if the phone takes 0.5 second to power up. So the first cm I move my finger, the screen doesn't respond to. It's not everytime it happens though. I'm thinking it could be the CPU governor, but then it should only happen once, and I can replicate it over and over within few seconds.
Second problem - it's hot as hell. The backside is heating up just browsing. I haven't even used the phone for Youtube or gaming yet.
I've tried installing a Google Edition image 4.3 from here, the Android system runs fine, but the browser experience plus the heat is exactly the same problem as with the Samsung TW 4.2 firmware.
*EDIT* Removing the animations in the developer menu doesn't do any good... Just removes the animations. The device LAGS.
I'd really like some input on this - I can't be the only dissapointed user with this
I've upgraded from the HTC One S, and I've been quite underwhelmed with this phone. Battery life and screen is an improvement, but I've been getting those same bugs that you've reported. The gaming performance on this phone isn't even that good on simple games like flow, even with a processor with double the cores, clocked higher and the new spec GPU. Starting to think that maybe the HTC One would have been a better choice.
Meh, sorry for rambling and tl;dr-ing, but yeah, I have the same issues.
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I've upgraded from the HTC One S, and I've been quite underwhelmed with this phone. Battery life and screen is an improvement, but I've been getting those same bugs that you've reported. The gaming performance on this phone isn't even that good on simple games like flow, even with a processor with double the cores, clocked higher and the new spec GPU. Starting to think that maybe the HTC One would have been a better choice.
Meh, sorry for rambling and tl;dr-ing, but yeah, I have the same issues.
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It's nice knowing I'm not alone. I've never before gone back before, but I'm really seriously considering it. The phone is not totally new anymore and the Google "vanilla" edition hasn't cured anything. I'm seriously thinking it's bad hardware.
The build quality is absolutely awful on this phone, I'm petrified to put it in my pocket as so many people have had their phone bend and break just from putting it in the front pocket. Sadly, my network won't let me go back, but if I had the chance, this phone would be gone. The amount of pointless bloatware on this is beyond insane, I haven't gone onto the Google edition yet but I bet the performance would improve. Annoying that I won't be able to uninstall applications.
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Maybe u should upgrade the firmware to get rid of the lags ... on my phone i have almost no lag at all but i have the exynos version
Heating is a problem that u cant do much about ... i don t know if a custom kernel may help to deal with it
And the phone is a big plastic device but the story behind the broken screens in pockets doesn t sit well with me ... its perfectly possible to happen but people tend to exaggerate a lot ... especially on internet or blame their fault on other things so despite i m being worried too about the fact it cant be so easy to brake the screen
Is anyone unhappy with the G2 and returning it? If so, why are returning it and which device are you getting?
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I am extremely happy with mine. No way I am returning it. Are you considering taking yours back?
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I will be returning mine. After the initial honeymoon period of around 5 days, I'm starting to dislike a few things enough to return it.
1. External speaker is quite terrible, it's very quiet and they place it exactly where your hands rest when you're playing games so it mutes the sound completely.
2. Speaking of gaming, this phone has serious thermal and throttling issues. I can't play any of my graphic intensive games, MC4, NFS Most Wanted, or Asphalt series for more than 10-15 minutes. The phone would get burning hot and throttle itself to a crawl, I would need to exit and wait 10-20 minutes before I could play another 10-15 minutes of gaming.
3. Not a fan of the on screen buttons, it takes up part of the screen..again when gaming I would accidentally tap it many times exiting me out of my game at the worst time.
4. Camera recording, I can't tap to focus during recording like I could on any of my other phones. HTC One, S4, Note II, iPhone ect. Sometimes I would be stuck recording a blur image for the first 5-10 seconds before it automatically tries to focus. 1080p 60 frames per second recording seems to only work in outdoor light or very good lighting, once you go indoors it records at like 5-10 frames per second.
5. Knock on is very inconsistent, I would have to double tap the screen 4 or 5 times sometimes to get it to register while it's sleeping.
I'm going to use the Note 3 for a while to see how that baby works. Really sad to see the G2 go, I had high hopes and a great initial impressions of it at first.
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I am extremely happy with mine. No way I am returning it. Are you considering taking yours back?
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Awesome. I have overall liked this phone very much and I just dumped my S4 over the weekend, so not sure what I would get even if I did return it lol.
So to answer your question, I'm keeping it. But if I can't figure out my battery drain issues, I will strongly consider returning it.
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Jury is still out. I don't game much, but I was playing Hex Defense (old tower defense game) and when objects really started to fly around the screen, it started to drag ass pretty bad. Not at all what I was expecting.
Even though I'm returning the G2, there are a few things I loved and will miss.
When not throttled the phone is a complete monster. Easily the fastest phone I've used by far.
I love the web browser, super fast and smooth. Signal strength still amazes me. Battery life is second to none. The screen and form factor is perfect. Oh and what a screen! It still takes my breath away. Camera in low light is awesome, daylight shots are the best.
Maybe im just too picky.
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Awesome. I have overall liked this phone very much and I just dumped my S4 over the weekend, so not sure what I would get even if I did return it lol.
So to answer your question, I'm keeping it. But if I can't figure out my battery drain issues, I will strongly consider returning it.
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A friend is having serious battery problems also, still trying to nail down what's causing it. He has disabled the apps that were keeping awake the most, even disabled gps, wifi location and the find my phone thing. He's lucky to get 8 hrs
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What gives with the bad gaming preformance? I thought this phone was built with graphic intensive tasks in mind by implementing GRAM and the snapdragon 800 should more than be able to handle it, no? Is it maybe because apps aren't written to utilize GRAM currently?
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What gives with the bad gaming preformance? I thought this phone was built with graphic intensive tasks in mind by implementing GRAM and the snapdragon 800 should more than be able to handle it, no? Is it maybe because apps aren't written to utilize GRAM currently?
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Sounds like thermal throttling, something that plagued the N4 as well.
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Sounds like thermal throttling, something that plagued the N4 as well.
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Is that something that can be overcame with software
I like the phone... even though a few things annoy me. love the stock launcher but the redraw makes it lag every time you go back.
I hate how laggy the drop down menu is on the lock screen too. god its awful lol
but anyway I have no reason to return it. the only other phone I'd want is the htc one but I doubt I could go down in screen size. seems like a nice phone but eh I hate blink feed and how non customizable the launcher is... and besides I still have a dna lol
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I haven't decided yet.
Reasons I want to return it:
Non-AMOLED display: I can see it flickering and the black contrast sucks comparatively.
Camera software needs some major help versus Samsung's TouchWiz camera
Lack of external storage, though I may order an OTG cable
CarrierIQ
Reasons I want to keep it: Snapdragon 800
I still have a Lumia 925 and an S4, and the S4 wouldn't be a terrible phone to go back to as my daily driver. But this Snapdragon 800 is noticeably quicker.
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With a kernel it can be.
Hell no. Loving it now that I have rooted it and killed all the bloat. Definitely a keeper for me for the next year.
It's worst feature (to me) is the shiny plastic back, which is at least fixable. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2447349
I will be keeping it, but that doesn't mean i won't get rid of it if another maker improves on this design (battery, bezel)
I remember when upgrading from the Thunderbolt to the s3 it was like nice, I finally have a nice phone but this phone is just something different. I am not one to get excited about things but i thoroughly enjoy looking at the phone, picking it up, holding it and turning it on.
I'm not picky enough with the camera. I think it does wonderfully and will only get better as the phone matures (development)
I'm not picky with the screen changing what appears to be colors (probably also can be fixed).
Sure there are a few nuances like the knock knock not always working but honestly as far as perfect goes for me, this phone currently is it. Will it get better? I hope so.
Speakers are better than the s3 so thats a plus even though i dont use them. Although, watching youtube videos i do agree the speaker placement is a little weird but that is easily remedied by shifting your hands slightly. I would assume the same for gaming, which i don't really do much of since i play PC games.
Anything can be picked apart. Its really all about how much you can tolerate.
I think I might send mine back for now, till the bootloader gets unlocked and I can have slimrom back. I picked up my n4 today and its just so much faster/smoother.
Will miss the battery life however but my n4 gets me through the day %90 of the time.
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Anything can be picked apart. Its really all about how much you can tolerate.
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I like the phone alot and have very few issues, none of which can't be overcome. This last part of your post truly says it all. No phone is perfect!!
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I think I might send mine back for now, till the bootloader gets unlocked and I can have slimrom back. I picked up my n4 today and its just so much faster/smoother.
Will miss the battery life however but my n4 gets me through the day %90 of the time.
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N4 isnt 4G, is it?
Keeping mine!!!!! Love the stock launcher and all the stock apps, text/email. Phone is quick and snappy everywhere. I rooted it and removed VZW crap and it flies. The only drawback of this phone, to me, is no SD card. Batt life is great....wireless charging, screen size is perfect. Wish I had a white one..wish the back was flat color, but it's not enough to return. There's no phone out there now that can compete. I left an S4 for it and it crushes that lag bag. The Note 3 will be too large for me, so not even an option.
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N4 isnt 4G, is it?
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No it's not however I will be moving to India in a couple months so that won't matter to me soon.
9 Days ago, I made the decision to switch networks due to Sprint's inability to handle MMS, data, signal, calls, or anything else. I walked into a T-Mobile store, and after a brief credit check, I was told I can choose any phone I'd like. My original intent was to hang onto my Nexus 5, which I absolutely loved, but I was told I was required to get a new phone. I wasn't exactly upset knowing I'd be getting a new phone, so I walked over to the displays and struggled for over 20 minutes trying to decide which phone to get. I eventually whittled my choices down to two phones. The LG G3 and the HTC One M9. After a bit of research and test driving, I chose the HTC One M9.
It is a seriously nice phone. The materials used to craft this baby are top notch, and definitely give the impression of quality. I very much like the way it looks and sounds, and even though it could be unwieldy to hold (slippery), I got around that issue by slapping a nice Spigen case on it. HTC's Uh Oh protection is a nice touch and the specifications are equally as impressive, which helped sell this phone to me. The thought of a 64-bit 8-core CPU was exciting.
It's my first flagship phone; everything should be impressive. And yet, I'm kind of not impressed. My two main complaints about this phone are the button placement (I think having the power button and volume buttons on the same side of the phone and right next to each other is kind of silly, then again, my N5 wasn't like that, so I could just be used to that layout. ) and the performance. Yes, you heard me, the performance. I don't even care about the joke of a camera this thing has, it's really the performance of the cutting-edge octacore CPU that they slapped in this thing that really frustrates me. Out of the box, this phone comes underclocked due to overheating issues. That, to me, is downright laughable. Did anyone at HTC test this phone? A flagship device whose performance is throttled from the moment you turn it on. That's like buying a Corvette straight from the dealer, starting up the car and finding out that Chevy disabled two of the cylinders in the engine to ensure it didn't overheat. It's not just the thought of this that bugs me, the performance of the phone is actually terrible at times. My Nexus 5, given it was running a 5.1.1 ROM, was butter smooth in all but the most complicated of situations. This phone, however, limited to a paltry 1.5GHz and another cluster that is slow to wake up and help out, struggles with some truly mundane tasks. For example, swiping to my Google Now Cards is laggy, loading Google Messenger is choppy and slow. Scrolling, in general, is almost never smooth. I've tried different ROMs, Kernels, and governors but can never really find a nice balance between performance and battery life. The CPU is ALWAYS up to something too. Even when the screen is off. My Nexus 5 would achieve, regularly, about 70-75% Deep Sleep throughout the course of a day. It sipped battery. This phone achieves, on a normal day, about 60-65%. Thankfully it has a larger battery than the N5, otherwise I seriously doubt it'd last as long.
Overall it's been bittersweet experience. I really like this phone, I want to love it, but I can't. I realize that this device is still in its infancy and HTC can roll out updates to hopefully iron out some of these problems. I also realize that the community for this phone is also in its infancy, and that down the road, there may be terrific alternatives to Sense 7 and the Stock Kernel. But I have 5 days left, and the idea of swapping this phone out for something better is slowly starting to grow on me. I've been toying with the idea of getting an Xperia Z3 or LG G3 instead. It'll cost me $50 to swap the M9 out for a different phone. On the other hand, my mind is telling me to be patient and that it'll work out in time with this phone. So I turn to you. Anyone else share the same frustrations with me? What do you think I should do? Should I wait or should I swap this baby out for something else?
UPDATE June 8th 2015:
I went to the T-Mobile store the day after posting this. I researched and thought long and hard about the decision I had to make. After a while I came to the conclusion that I would be paying $50 (Restocking fee) to essentially downgrade to another device. In fact, the only other flagship device that even appeals to me at this point is the LG G4, which seems to be getting along as well as the S6 and One M9 have been (from what I've read). Thanks to recommendations from others in the community, I made some changes that have greatly improved my experience with this device. I'm still not a huge fan of Sense 7 nor am I astonished by the Camera's performance, but a new launcher restored much of the stock Android feel and an upcoming firmware update promises to improve the camera. Performance while multitasking is fantastic and while there are a few hiccups here and there, I can't say my experience is any worse than what it was with my Nexus 5. The Battery life, a common complaint from others about this phone, is fantastic in my eyes. It's nice to sometimes forget about charging my phone at night, waking up the next morning and still having enough juice to get me into the afternoon.
Overall, I've only recently concluded that I did not give this device a fair chance for as long as I should've. Coming from my Nexus 5, the change was a bit of a shock. I suppose that played into my initial disappointment. I'm actually starting to fall in love with this phone. Compliments and exclamations of wonder and impact are common from others that I let check out my phone, even from die-hard iPhone fans, which is always nice. I figured that I should update this thread because I see the conversation still continues. No phone is without its flaws, my beloved N5 was hardly without its own. Many "flaws" are a matter of perspective. I'm confident I've made the right choice with this device, and I look forward to the bright future that lies in store for it (please God, give me an AOSP ROM).
ps. The 1.5 clock only applies to the A53 cores. I'm sure people more technically inclined and chime in and confirm this.
I've had nothing but smooth operation on this phone. I am on Leedroid at the moment, but was on international stock rom before and was just as smooth.
I'd be looking as to why you are experiencing the performance issues, and if you're not happy, I'm sure the consumer protection laws in the US allow you to return it for something else?
Best of luck
You are in the 14 day window go an return it
Go get your nexus 5 back or talk to someone who isn't trying to hose you into buying a new phone.
https://support.t-mobile.com/message/389200
Granted I don't know if the specs on your phone didn't match up to what was described in this link, Or if you had it leased.
Alcolawl said:
My Nexus 5, given it was running a 5.1.1 ROM, was butter smooth in all but the most complicated of situations. This phone, however, limited to a paltry 1.5GHz and another cluster that is slow to wake up and help out, struggles with some truly mundane tasks. For example, swiping to my Google Now Cards is laggy, loading Google Messenger is choppy and slow. Scrolling, in general, is almost never smooth. I've tried different ROMs, Kernels, and governors but can never really find a nice balance between performance and battery life. The CPU is ALWAYS up to something too. Even when the screen is off. My Nexus 5 would achieve, regularly, about 70-75% Deep Sleep throughout the course of a day. It sipped battery. This phone achieves, on a normal day, about 60-65%. Thankfully it has a larger battery than the N5, otherwise I seriously doubt it'd last as long.
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Yeah, I've noticed the lag when swiping to the goole now screen. I'm confident that performance will be better when they give us 5.1, which by then they'll have figured out how to best optimize S810. Best to test out your options, you might even want to consider the M8 which has GPE 5.1 ROMS ready for it. That phone performs and has excellent battery life.
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Yeah, I've noticed the lag when swiping to the goole now screen. I'm confident that performance will be better when they give us 5.1, which by then they'll have figured out how to best optimize S810. Best to test out your options, you might even want to consider the M8 which has GPE 5.1 ROMS ready for it. That phone performs and has excellent battery life.
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Have you installed the xposed fix memory leak apk? That may help with lag on 5.0.x
BUBBA DUB'S said:
Have you installed the xposed fix memory leak apk? That may help with lag on 5.0.x
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Yeah I have (doesn't it only fix that off screen animation bug?). The lag when scrolling to the google now screen affects my M8 as well if I recall correctly.
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Yeah I have (doesn't it only fix that off screen animation bug?). The lag when scrolling to the google now screen affects my M8 as well if I recall correctly.
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I thought it reduced the over all RAM usage from the system over a prolonged period of time. I thought that might affect lag overall on the phone, but I could be mistaken. I haven't experienced any lag on my device yet so I was just throwing out ideas.
Have you tried rooting and putting leedroid on it. It's a beast. No lag. No stutter. Smooth
I never experienced any lags except when gaming during charging the battery with a speed charger.
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I thought it reduced the over all RAM usage from the system over a prolonged period of time. I thought that might affect lag overall on the phone, but I could be mistaken. I haven't experienced any lag on my device yet so I was just throwing out ideas.
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Same, lag isn't a problem except for when using google now launcher and swiping to the left for the google now screen. It's minor, but annoying nonetheless. For the OP who was used to the Nexus 5's smoothness it's probably extremely noticeable.
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Same, lag isn't a problem except for when using google now launcher and swiping to the left for the google now screen. It's minor, but annoying nonetheless. For the OP who was used to the Nexus 5's smoothness it's probably extremely noticeable.
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True, I actually got rid of google now because it was annoying me every time my phone slipped out of my hand and started it. I still am hopeful knowing the m9 should get multiple updates in the future and run 5.1.
dondavis007 said:
I never experienced any lags except when gaming during charging the battery with a speed charger.
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why would you game while charging the s810 is power hungry i would be careful not killing my battery this way
reubenskelly1992 said:
Have you tried rooting and putting leedroid on it. It's a beast. No lag. No stutter. Smooth
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Wont make a difference, its the phone to blame to for now. I got 2 devices both same problems at times and tried everything for it, the roms run fine but battery life still bad and weird charging problems for me
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Wont make a difference, its the phone to blame to for now. I got 2 devices both same problems at times and tried everything for it, the roms run fine but battery life still bad and weird charging problems for me
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Weird
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why would you game while charging the s810 is power hungry i would be careful not killing my battery this way
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Because I only gaming before going to bed. Look at my sig and guess if I keep it long enough to notice
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Because I only gaming before going to bed. Look at my sig and guess if I keep it long enough to notice
Sent from a mobile gadget.
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still you are brute forcing the M9 into throttling its GPU this way and about the best thing on the M9 is actually gaming speed thanks to it's very powerful GPU
Coming from a M8, at first i was a little frustrated for the overheating and the camera of the M9. But then, neither the m7 or m8 were great cameras.
I read a lot of reviews and even started thinking of selling the M9 but swap for what? S6 ? God no, please, no more touchwiz. Lg,i had the lg3 and it was L(a)G and slow, much slower than the M8 (i know, different screen's resolution). So, in the end, i prefer keep the M9, the camera improve a lot with the update, and many more updates will come.
Then, there is sense 7, sense is one of my favourites android skins. Light, smart and very, very fast. I absolutely have no lag in M9 (all stock). And i use a lot blinkfeed, i missed it in any non Htc phone. And there is the boomsound, the touch to awake screen...
When you say you have lag with Google Now cards, I'm assuming you are using the Google Launcher. I have noticed some lag here and there with the Google launcher, but the stock Sense launcher performs admirably. It's quick and never seems to drop frames when gaming either. How did you leave the phone stock before you started flashing different ROMs to it? I think that may actually be the issue. Every review of the M9 has stated that the phone is smooth and HTC's software is better than ever. Messing with the software may be what's causing the poor experience.
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why would you game while charging the s810 is power hungry i would be careful not killing my battery this way
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I occassionally play a round of Boom Beach, Clash of Clans or Limbo while the phone is on the charger. Can you elaborate a bit on how this could "kill the battery"? Is it related to charging while the GPU is cranking up the thermals?
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When you say you have lag with Google Now cards, I'm assuming you are using the Google Launcher. I have noticed some lag here and there with the Google launcher, but the stock Sense launcher performs admirably. It's quick and never seems to drop frames when gaming either. How did you leave the phone stock before you started flashing different ROMs to it? I think that may actually be the issue. Every review of the M9 has stated that the phone is smooth and HTC's software is better than ever. Messing with the software may be what's causing the poor experience.
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I'm using the stock Sense launcher and my phone is buttery smooth. While I don't use the Google Now Launcher, Google Now performs great on this phone.
All of the games that I play are also super smooth. Granted, I don't play games that demand a high frame rate, but those games that I do play are far smoother on this phone than my old M7.
The one issue I had with the phone was what seemed like spotty issues with wifi. I did a cache partition wipe yesterday and it seems to have helped the issue.