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Before I buy this phone ...

Anything i should know before i buy this phone?
Like any cons/problems?
How's the battery life?

Depends how picky you are. Some people are finding problem everywhere and returning their phones for the smallest reason.
If you check the forum will will find lots of this.
Battery life ...... I had shockingly bad screen on time on the standard kernel so I flashed franco kernel and it seems a little better.
If i didnt leave 3g turned on and didnt actually do anything on the phone i could get 2 days between charges, but if used 3g the battery would go down 10% in 10 mins. But with a different kernel im getting a lot better screen on time.
As for the software its vanilla android and its virtually perfect for me and the phone is blistering fast it does everything i want very fast, also a lot of people where i live dont know what it is especially people with iphones and they are a litttle jealous when they see how fast it is.
A minus though is the phone can get very hot, I men where i live it gets down to -40 and i can use it as a hand warmer I dont know if this is heat dissipation working correctly or some other problem
Im hoping the battery and heating issues can be solved with an update which im sure they will be.
For me buy it its individual i havent seen one anywhere apart from in my pocket any problems and you can just take it straight back )))

Battery life has been fine for me, even on stock kernel (though I'm running a custom one now). As for cons, some people have problems with the phone being a little more fragile, as both front and back are made of glass. YMMV depending on how careful you are / how willing you are to put a case on it.
As far as the heating issue goes, if you flash a custom kernel and UV a bit you should be fine. Also depends on what you use your phone for. 3D gaming will obviously get you higher temps.
OP - you might get some more informative answers if you mention what phone you're coming from and what you're used to or expecting.

Battery life is about the same as any other phone in this category of the Nexus 4's specs.
The heat it gives off I would consider the same as my Galaxy S3.
Only thing that I would tell you is to have a case for it, it has glass on both sides ..I would recommend the Diztronic TPU case.
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im running franco kernel with it underclocked and i still get the heat issue. I dont use it for games i have a n7 for that. only normal phone use and stuff like social networks and looking at the browser when on the bus, or when im using 3g when using for example facebook (which i dont think is too demanding on the cpu) it gets damn HOT at the back like i said even when its -40 well maybe -20 on the bus which tbh is very bad becasue then it will condense inside causing water damage.
Im gonna wait till the next update and see if that cures it if not ill have to speak to google i think when im in the uk next month. Im not the kind of person who RMA`s for small things but my battery really is shockingly bad.
But i do agree that this kind of high level hardware is going to hammer batteries it has 4 x the power of my old xperia arc......

scampy said:
im running franco kernel with it underclocked and i still get the heat issue. I dont use it for games i have a n7 for that. only normal phone use and stuff like social networks and looking at the browser when on the bus, or when im using 3g when using for example facebook (which i dont think is too demanding on the cpu) it gets damn HOT at the back like i said even when its -40 well maybe -20 on the bus which tbh is very bad becasue then it will condense inside causing water damage.
Im gonna wait till the next update and see if that cures it if not ill have to speak to google i think when im in the uk next month. Im not the kind of person who RMA`s for small things but my battery really is shockingly bad.
But i do agree that this kind of high level hardware is going to hammer batteries it has 4 x the power of my old xperia arc......
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Out of curiosity, have you checked the binning of your processor (fast, nominal, slow)?
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I got my nexus 4 just 2 days ago and I have an annoying static noise during calls while using earpiece. Will have to RMA it.
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tengen said:
Out of curiosity, have you checked the binning of your processor (fast, nominal, slow)?
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I havent i will
and report back

I have something to add that I forgot to mention in my first post.
The touch response sensitivity on the Nexus 4 takes a bit getting use to..its a bit "off"
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I've had my nexus 4 since dec 13 it's the first batch.. The only problem I've encountered is back where the camera is It's got a little rattling noise .. Other than that I'm quite happy with my purchase:good:

Got my phone on day one. The issue I have had with the phone is it came with these forums. Best phone I have ever owned other then that. Lol

This phone is absolutely brilliant. I would put it at a 9/10, losing 1 point for the camera.
It's cooler than the SGS3 temperature wise, it's well built, it's super fast and has great battery life. Volumes are loud, earpiece speaker is clear and as loud as a jet engine, the screen is absolutely gorgeous.
On AOKP milestone build 1, with franko kernel, I get around 20 hours standby, and 4.5 hours screen on time with moderate use. Thats with some form of data on permanently apart from at night (standby time includes sleep at night lol)
Once google release good camera software, nexus will take over. Camera is a 6/10 for me.

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and has great battery life.
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I don´t think/feel so. But the other points 100% agree.

I'm coming from the HTC Amaze, that has an amazing battery but I'm leaving that phone because of the battery and the reboot problem.
and can you guys give me a little more information on the camera? Like pictures you guys took, and I heard the battery can compete with the Samsung galaxy 2

kevinrubio1 said:
I'm coming from the HTC Amaze, that has an amazing battery but I'm leaving that phone because of the battery and the reboot problem.
and can you guys give me a little more information on the camera? Like pictures you guys took, and I heard the battery can compete with the Samsung galaxy 2
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Some people in this thread have been discussing camera issues. There are also a bunch of pictures taken by the N4 there. The gist of it is that low light performance may not be up to everyone's standards, but (again) it depends on how picky you are about these things. If it bothers you, you may be able to work around it by using a third-party camera app - there's some debate about whether the problem is hardware- or software-related.
My personal impression is that the camera is good enough for my uses, but then again I'm not a photography buff, so take that opinion with a grain of salt

I could easily recommend this phone to anyone. The battery is what it is, I get 3-4 hours of screen on time. I do have a charger at work and home and in the car, so it's a non-issue for me. The screen is beautiful. The phone is insanely fast. The heat issues I think are non-issues, the back is glass which is a much better conductor, so all that really means is the glass back heats up to cool off the processor, plastic backed phones don't have a huge thermal plate to dissipate heat. I'd call the phone a 9.5/10 especially if you can get it straight from Google for their price. (good luck)

The biggest issue this phone has is that no one can get their hands on one.

Androyed said:
The biggest issue this phone has is that no one can get their hands on one.
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So true. I'm lucky I got mine!
But I love this phone. Battery isn't the best but it is still fine for me. It operates great! I love it!
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charger04 said:
So true. I'm lucky I got mine!
But I love this phone. Battery isn't the best but it is still fine for me. It operates great! I love it!
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I'm still waiting for a good offer...

I'm just buying mine's in the T-mobile store

Choppy browser + warm backplate

I have a poor upgrade experience from S3->S4 T-Mobile 16GB version. I'm actually considering selling the S4 after only 10 days to be honest.
It's laggy, especially in the browser. When scrolling it's like it's with 25FPS. Very far from the smooth S3 experience. And when I try to scroll, it's if the phone takes 0.5 second to power up. So the first cm I move my finger, the screen doesn't respond to. It's not everytime it happens though. I'm thinking it could be the CPU governor, but then it should only happen once, and I can replicate it over and over within few seconds.
Second problem - it's hot as hell. The backside is heating up just browsing. I haven't even used the phone for Youtube or gaming yet.
I've tried installing a Google Edition image 4.3 from here, the Android system runs fine, but the browser experience plus the heat is exactly the same problem as with the Samsung TW 4.2 firmware.
*EDIT* Removing the animations in the developer menu doesn't do any good... Just removes the animations. The device LAGS.
I'd really like some input on this - I can't be the only dissapointed user with this

I've upgraded from the HTC One S, and I've been quite underwhelmed with this phone. Battery life and screen is an improvement, but I've been getting those same bugs that you've reported. The gaming performance on this phone isn't even that good on simple games like flow, even with a processor with double the cores, clocked higher and the new spec GPU. Starting to think that maybe the HTC One would have been a better choice.
Meh, sorry for rambling and tl;dr-ing, but yeah, I have the same issues.
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kylepont said:
I've upgraded from the HTC One S, and I've been quite underwhelmed with this phone. Battery life and screen is an improvement, but I've been getting those same bugs that you've reported. The gaming performance on this phone isn't even that good on simple games like flow, even with a processor with double the cores, clocked higher and the new spec GPU. Starting to think that maybe the HTC One would have been a better choice.
Meh, sorry for rambling and tl;dr-ing, but yeah, I have the same issues.
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It's nice knowing I'm not alone. I've never before gone back before, but I'm really seriously considering it. The phone is not totally new anymore and the Google "vanilla" edition hasn't cured anything. I'm seriously thinking it's bad hardware.

The build quality is absolutely awful on this phone, I'm petrified to put it in my pocket as so many people have had their phone bend and break just from putting it in the front pocket. Sadly, my network won't let me go back, but if I had the chance, this phone would be gone. The amount of pointless bloatware on this is beyond insane, I haven't gone onto the Google edition yet but I bet the performance would improve. Annoying that I won't be able to uninstall applications.
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Maybe u should upgrade the firmware to get rid of the lags ... on my phone i have almost no lag at all but i have the exynos version
Heating is a problem that u cant do much about ... i don t know if a custom kernel may help to deal with it
And the phone is a big plastic device but the story behind the broken screens in pockets doesn t sit well with me ... its perfectly possible to happen but people tend to exaggerate a lot ... especially on internet or blame their fault on other things so despite i m being worried too about the fact it cant be so easy to brake the screen

Anyone returning their G2?

Is anyone unhappy with the G2 and returning it? If so, why are returning it and which device are you getting?
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I am extremely happy with mine. No way I am returning it. Are you considering taking yours back?
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I will be returning mine. After the initial honeymoon period of around 5 days, I'm starting to dislike a few things enough to return it.
1. External speaker is quite terrible, it's very quiet and they place it exactly where your hands rest when you're playing games so it mutes the sound completely.
2. Speaking of gaming, this phone has serious thermal and throttling issues. I can't play any of my graphic intensive games, MC4, NFS Most Wanted, or Asphalt series for more than 10-15 minutes. The phone would get burning hot and throttle itself to a crawl, I would need to exit and wait 10-20 minutes before I could play another 10-15 minutes of gaming.
3. Not a fan of the on screen buttons, it takes up part of the screen..again when gaming I would accidentally tap it many times exiting me out of my game at the worst time.
4. Camera recording, I can't tap to focus during recording like I could on any of my other phones. HTC One, S4, Note II, iPhone ect. Sometimes I would be stuck recording a blur image for the first 5-10 seconds before it automatically tries to focus. 1080p 60 frames per second recording seems to only work in outdoor light or very good lighting, once you go indoors it records at like 5-10 frames per second.
5. Knock on is very inconsistent, I would have to double tap the screen 4 or 5 times sometimes to get it to register while it's sleeping.
I'm going to use the Note 3 for a while to see how that baby works. Really sad to see the G2 go, I had high hopes and a great initial impressions of it at first.

bri315317 said:
I am extremely happy with mine. No way I am returning it. Are you considering taking yours back?
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Awesome. I have overall liked this phone very much and I just dumped my S4 over the weekend, so not sure what I would get even if I did return it lol.
So to answer your question, I'm keeping it. But if I can't figure out my battery drain issues, I will strongly consider returning it.
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Jury is still out. I don't game much, but I was playing Hex Defense (old tower defense game) and when objects really started to fly around the screen, it started to drag ass pretty bad. Not at all what I was expecting.

Even though I'm returning the G2, there are a few things I loved and will miss.
When not throttled the phone is a complete monster. Easily the fastest phone I've used by far.
I love the web browser, super fast and smooth. Signal strength still amazes me. Battery life is second to none. The screen and form factor is perfect. Oh and what a screen! It still takes my breath away. Camera in low light is awesome, daylight shots are the best.
Maybe im just too picky.

WizeGuyDezignz said:
Awesome. I have overall liked this phone very much and I just dumped my S4 over the weekend, so not sure what I would get even if I did return it lol.
So to answer your question, I'm keeping it. But if I can't figure out my battery drain issues, I will strongly consider returning it.
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A friend is having serious battery problems also, still trying to nail down what's causing it. He has disabled the apps that were keeping awake the most, even disabled gps, wifi location and the find my phone thing. He's lucky to get 8 hrs
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What gives with the bad gaming preformance? I thought this phone was built with graphic intensive tasks in mind by implementing GRAM and the snapdragon 800 should more than be able to handle it, no? Is it maybe because apps aren't written to utilize GRAM currently?

cslingerland said:
What gives with the bad gaming preformance? I thought this phone was built with graphic intensive tasks in mind by implementing GRAM and the snapdragon 800 should more than be able to handle it, no? Is it maybe because apps aren't written to utilize GRAM currently?
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Sounds like thermal throttling, something that plagued the N4 as well.

bose301s said:
Sounds like thermal throttling, something that plagued the N4 as well.
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Is that something that can be overcame with software

I like the phone... even though a few things annoy me. love the stock launcher but the redraw makes it lag every time you go back.
I hate how laggy the drop down menu is on the lock screen too. god its awful lol
but anyway I have no reason to return it. the only other phone I'd want is the htc one but I doubt I could go down in screen size. seems like a nice phone but eh I hate blink feed and how non customizable the launcher is... and besides I still have a dna lol
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I haven't decided yet.
Reasons I want to return it:
Non-AMOLED display: I can see it flickering and the black contrast sucks comparatively.
Camera software needs some major help versus Samsung's TouchWiz camera
Lack of external storage, though I may order an OTG cable
CarrierIQ
Reasons I want to keep it: Snapdragon 800
I still have a Lumia 925 and an S4, and the S4 wouldn't be a terrible phone to go back to as my daily driver. But this Snapdragon 800 is noticeably quicker.

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With a kernel it can be.

Hell no. Loving it now that I have rooted it and killed all the bloat. Definitely a keeper for me for the next year.
It's worst feature (to me) is the shiny plastic back, which is at least fixable. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2447349

I will be keeping it, but that doesn't mean i won't get rid of it if another maker improves on this design (battery, bezel)
I remember when upgrading from the Thunderbolt to the s3 it was like nice, I finally have a nice phone but this phone is just something different. I am not one to get excited about things but i thoroughly enjoy looking at the phone, picking it up, holding it and turning it on.
I'm not picky enough with the camera. I think it does wonderfully and will only get better as the phone matures (development)
I'm not picky with the screen changing what appears to be colors (probably also can be fixed).
Sure there are a few nuances like the knock knock not always working but honestly as far as perfect goes for me, this phone currently is it. Will it get better? I hope so.
Speakers are better than the s3 so thats a plus even though i dont use them. Although, watching youtube videos i do agree the speaker placement is a little weird but that is easily remedied by shifting your hands slightly. I would assume the same for gaming, which i don't really do much of since i play PC games.
Anything can be picked apart. Its really all about how much you can tolerate.

I think I might send mine back for now, till the bootloader gets unlocked and I can have slimrom back. I picked up my n4 today and its just so much faster/smoother.
Will miss the battery life however but my n4 gets me through the day %90 of the time.

Darkestred said:
Anything can be picked apart. Its really all about how much you can tolerate.
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I like the phone alot and have very few issues, none of which can't be overcome. This last part of your post truly says it all. No phone is perfect!!

randyspants said:
I think I might send mine back for now, till the bootloader gets unlocked and I can have slimrom back. I picked up my n4 today and its just so much faster/smoother.
Will miss the battery life however but my n4 gets me through the day %90 of the time.
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N4 isnt 4G, is it?

Keeping mine!!!!! Love the stock launcher and all the stock apps, text/email. Phone is quick and snappy everywhere. I rooted it and removed VZW crap and it flies. The only drawback of this phone, to me, is no SD card. Batt life is great....wireless charging, screen size is perfect. Wish I had a white one..wish the back was flat color, but it's not enough to return. There's no phone out there now that can compete. I left an S4 for it and it crushes that lag bag. The Note 3 will be too large for me, so not even an option.

chrisexv6 said:
N4 isnt 4G, is it?
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No it's not however I will be moving to India in a couple months so that won't matter to me soon.

[Q] Few issues with G2- HELP!

Hey there guys,
I'm from the UK and have a 3 (Three) variant of the LG G2 16GB. While the phone is mostly really fast and speedy, I have really sensative eyes that can detect a bit of lag. Now while this may not really bother many people, it sometimes bothers me as the phone is a 2.3ghz phone. I mean c'mon. I don't get the feeling the CPU clocks itself higher when i'm actually using it to do something.
I.E. Watching HD video on youtube. It runs buttery smooth every 10s or so and then "pop" a little lag occurs (btw it's not buffering, the video is like fully loaded). I don't want that to happen, it just ruins the viewing experience. This also happens in some games (i am aware that games load n stuff during gameplay sometimes) but i've been playing Vector on the highest settings; I came onto this level where there are now 3 characters (2 A.I and me) on the screen. The fps drops and then smoothes out then drops again. This is very weird! Why?!
Please someone help me get this really annoying lag outta ma brand new phone! It would be MUCH APPRECIATED!! <3 (lol)
P.S ( I have read a thread by Stefan063 and he stated
If you are experiencing some of annoying LAG on your G2,here is how to get LAG away (works with my G2) :
1. Type 3845#*802#
2. Scrol down to High Temperature Property OFF,and select
3. Turn it ON...
4. Turn G2 fully off...
5. Wait at least 10sec...
6. Turn it back on and wait about 30sec. when Screen Lock shows...
LAG-FREE G2
I don't know if this'll work for my phone. I have the LG-D802 version

Moreover, I have noticed a couple of days back a very small (quite unnoticable at first) black line on my screen. It's not a scratch, and is behind the glass screen; I think that the pixels or whatever in the that part of the screen have COMPLETELY shutdown. Like, it's gone! Completely black, i'll try and get a screen shot of it. I think I should go back to Three and get a replacement.
Why does the phone also ridiculously overheat when playing games? I get 40 degrees C while gaming according to CPU Z. Can anyone confirm this?
Thank you

Ok, from the top, i think. The YouTube lag has been reported by a few people, but most say that it does not affect them, so I am not sure what the cause is. I play games regularly including Madden 25, Shadowgun Deadzone, and Riptide GP. Even at length, 1+hr straight, I do not get lag or heat build up.
I run my phone in a case. The Ballistic SG case, which I am sure is not good on ventilation. The highest temperature I have gotten gaming with that case on is 98.2F. The highest I have gotten with the case off, when I use my Moga Pro is 93F. I have definitely never had the phone get above 100F and I am fairly certain that the 100F mark is a major point of throttling. If your phone overheats abnormally, this could cause the lag you describe. By the way, I too use CPU-Z for temperature readings.
Also, I believe those instructions turn off thermal throttling, which may make the phone smoother, but since yours may be overheating already, is definitely not advised.
And in the case of your screen, I would definitely get a replacement as that is not normal.
Hope this helps somewhat!!

Hmm....this is very weird indeed. This must mean there's something wrong with my G2. I spoke to LG and they said that the phone should operate between 0c and 40c which is above 100F. And this lag bothers me because this phone is not cheap and is ment to be top of the line.
Might I ask what model and variant of the G2 you are using?
This has helped a lot. Thank you very much. I will go to my carrier ASAP.
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Markesium said:
Hmm....this is very weird indeed. This must mean there's something wrong with my G2. I spoke to LG and they said that the phone should operate between 0c and 40c which is above 100F. And this lag bothers me because this phone is not cheap and is ment to be top of the line.
Might I ask what model and variant of the G2 you are using?
This has helped a lot. Thank you very much. I will go to my carrier ASAP.
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Sad but true! EVERY android phone lags! EVERY ONE OF THEM! Who says otherwise is simply a liar or a blind!
I have not owned but android devices from HTC, Samsung, LG, Nexus etc.. and they all lag to a certain level! Of course Nexuses are the smoothest but still stutter sometimes! It's inherited in Android OS!

Life Engineer, you maybe right. But it's just very weird. I just ask why to these big ass companies, can't you refine your damn devices!
Anyone know if Stefan's trick will work for my phone? I am due to return it tomorrow to my network-carrier but if they don't give me a replacement or help me out, I will try out this trick.

Markesium said:
Life Engineer, you maybe right. But it's just very weird. I just ask why to these big ass companies, can't you refine your damn devices!
Anyone know if Stefan's trick will work for my phone? I am due to return it tomorrow to my network-carrier but if they don't give me a replacement or help me out, I will try out this trick.
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Unfortunately you are right! It's so frustrating to see my friend's iPhone 4 or iPhone 4s smoother then my quad-core beast or my other friends' octacore's beast!
But despite all that I can never imagine myself with an iPhone! I dunno why!
Maybe when they make quadcores with 2GB RAM and real multitasking and 5"+ screens with some logical prices I might!

I'm returning my Z5C - here's why

I am so disappointed this phone didn't deliver what I expected. I absolutely loved it from the moment I received it, but it just won't work out. I am returning it today and going back to my Z3. The reasons are:
Snapdragon 810
Yep, that's it. This otherwise amazing phone was ruined by the SD810. I use my phones as my main camera, which has to work properly under tough situations. Nearly every phone I've had before was able to handle extreme conditions well; the Z5C wasn't. I take lots of pictures and videos, often north of 300 plus about an hour of 1080p videos per day. My Z1C withstood hot tropical summers and delivered every time under these conditions.
I was out last weekend and ready to test the camera on my new toy. I used Waze for about 20 minutes, starting from "idle." The phone got warm really fast. Then I got to the destination, thought I could record some 60fps 1080p videos, and was able to record about 10 minutes, then I got the famous message saying that the temperature was rising and the camera app would shut down soon to cool down the phone. It was uncomfortably hot. Mind you, the weather was fairly cool at 60°F. The battery was also going downhill real fast. I decided to turn the phone off and head out to another location. When I got there, I turned the phone back on (it cooled down quickly), and started recording some more videos. By now I was afraid to record anything longer than 5 minutes because I thought the phone would overheat and leave me hanging without a camera. I didn't get to that point, but missed lots of opportunities because of the overheating threat.
In less demanding situations, my phone got warm and uncomfortable to hold as well. From idle, my phone gets warm by simply surfing the internet for 5-10 minutes. It can be on Wifi or LTE, max/min brightness, it will warm up regardless. It doesn't get hot like when taking pictures, but come on. How can it get warm after 5-10 minutes of surfing the internet? That's really bad. The default state of the phone is running warm. Imagine if I go outside during summer and take 2 or 3 pictures. The phone is gonna melt in my hand. I can't rely on it. That's very unfortunate, because this phone is the absolutely best thing I've ever had the privilege of owning. Everything else is perfect. Size, battery life, screen, storage, fingerprint reader, waterproofing, open USB port... I'm gonna have to sit down and patiently wait for the next Compact to come out. What a shame.

Some people complain about the heat but others don't... Hopefully my phone doesn't have the misaligned lens issue, the back crack issue and the overheating issue. My Z1 compact is totally wrecked, worst comes to worst I'll just wait for the Z6 compact.

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Some people complain about the heat but others don't... Hopefully my phone doesn't have the misaligned lens issue, the back crack issue and the overheating issue. My Z1 compact is totally wrecked, worst comes to worst I'll just wait for the Z6 compact.
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same here.. hoping the device I ordered is free of issues.. I finally found a deal on amazon for $460..fingers crossed!

android_fury said:
I am so disappointed this phone didn't deliver what I expected. I absolutely loved it from the moment I received it, but it just won't work out. I am returning it today and going back to my Z3. The reasons are:
Snapdragon 810
Yep, that's it. This otherwise amazing phone was ruined by the SD810. I use my phones as my main camera, which has to work properly under tough situations. Nearly every phone I've had before was able to handle extreme conditions well; the Z5C wasn't. I take lots of pictures and videos, often north of 300 plus about an hour of 1080p videos per day. My Z1C withstood hot tropical summers and delivered every time under these conditions.
I was out last weekend and ready to test the camera on my new toy. I used Waze for about 20 minutes, starting from "idle." The phone got warm really fast. Then I got to the destination, thought I could record some 60fps 1080p videos, and was able to record about 10 minutes, then I got the famous message saying that the temperature was rising and the camera app would shut down soon to cool down the phone. It was uncomfortably hot. Mind you, the weather was fairly cool at 60°F. The battery was also going downhill real fast. I decided to turn the phone off and head out to another location. When I got there, I turned the phone back on (it cooled down quickly), and started recording some more videos. By now I was afraid to record anything longer than 5 minutes because I thought the phone would overheat and leave me hanging without a camera. I didn't get to that point, but missed lots of opportunities because of the overheating threat.
In less demanding situations, my phone got warm and uncomfortable to hold as well. From idle, my phone gets warm by simply surfing the internet for 5-10 minutes. It can be on Wifi or LTE, max/min brightness, it will warm up regardless. It doesn't get hot like when taking pictures, but come on. How can it get warm after 5-10 minutes of surfing the internet? That's really bad. The default state of the phone is running warm. Imagine if I go outside during summer and take 2 or 3 pictures. The phone is gonna melt in my hand. I can't rely on it. That's very unfortunate, because this phone is the absolutely best thing I've ever had the privilege of owning. Everything else is perfect. Size, battery life, screen, storage, fingerprint reader, waterproofing, open USB port... I'm gonna have to sit down and patiently wait for the next Compact to come out. What a shame.
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I think you can just tick the " Don't show this again" on the temperature rising warning aaaaand it wouldn't appear unless it just closes the app down :|

yubeie said:
same here.. hoping the device I ordered is free of issues.. I finally found a deal on amazon for $460..fingers crossed!
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My one doesn't heat up or anything but I do have a bit of lens blur... I'm not sure if it's worth the hassle returning though

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I am so disappointed this phone didn't deliver what I expected. I absolutely loved it from the moment I received it, but it just won't work out. I am returning it today and going back to my Z3. The reasons are:
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Just turn off any video stabilization as it generates most of the heat and you are good to live with Z5c now but yes it would still a bit uncomfortable to hold. Shame on SD810.

TheEndHK said:
Just turn off any video stabilization as it generates most of the heat and you are good to live with Z5c now but yes it would still a bit uncomfortable to hold. Shame on SD810.
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That's a restriction. I want to use it to its full potential. Even crappy Samsung phones have OIS nowadays. I shouldn't have to turn stuff off just so the phone works normally. Damn it, this sucks. I loved the phone so much, like I hadn't in a long time. This stupid SD820 had better be the best processor ever created. I'll be first in line to get the next Compact.

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That's a restriction. I want to use it to its full potential. Even crappy Samsung phones have OIS nowadays. I shouldn't have to turn stuff off just so the phone works normally. Damn it, this sucks. I loved the phone so much, like I hadn't in a long time. This stupid SD820 had better be the best processor ever created. I'll be first in line to get the next Compact.
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I like my old Z1c got much better heat control, just like you but the focus on that camera is so painful, always hit and miss, too slow. If the next compact got OIS, I'll probably get one too.

The Snapdragon never poses an issue for me but I live in Britain where the weather barely ever gets really, really hot.
I will also be first to get the next Z Compact, just because I love my Z5 Compact so much. No other small phone offers this many premium specifications. For this reason I have become a Sony fan since Google decided to go big for the Nexus 6P.
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supercakefish said:
The Snapdragon never poses an issue for me but I live in Britain where the weather barely ever gets really, really hot.
I will also be first to get the next Z Compact, just because I love my Z5 Compact so much. No other small phone offers this many premium specifications. For this reason I have become a Sony fan since Google decided to go big for the Nexus 6P.
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Hong Kong is extremely hot, expected to see many Z5 users to do IPX67 water cooling in toilet during summer here.

Hm...It's interesting.
First i thought that it's a real problem in my phone too, cause when i played Real Racing 3 after 10 minutes of playing the phone got warm and the battery go fast. Then today i read your report about camera and i started to worry. I quickly tried out my and after taking 10:24 minutes of 4K video the phone got hot but not extremely, in my impressions it was trully acceptable and i got no warnings about temperature (just the information at the start of recording).
i have an idea about getting warm when recording... when i start the recording i got a notif. about saving data to internal storage or if i have a high speed SD i can use it too. So i thinking is it possible that when you have inserted a low speed SD card in, the SD810 needs to work harder and this is the point why its warming up faster???? is it a possible way of it??? (i have Kingston MicroSD 64GB Class 10 UHS-I)

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i have an idea about getting warm when recording... when i start the recording i got a notif. about saving data to internal storage or if i have a high speed SD i can use it too. So i thinking is it possible that when you have inserted a low speed SD card in, the SD810 needs to work harder and this is the point why its warming up faster???? is it a possible way of it??? (i have Kingston MicroSD 64GB Class 10 UHS-I)
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I only used the internal storage for the camera. It still overheated. That sucks.

android_fury said:
I only used the internal storage for the camera. It still overheated. That sucks.
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Hm...Strange... Today i tested again my phone with gaming... Its getting hot but acceptable... I think you should get the phone back to the market or service center!

I'm using my Z5 Compact (white) for PS4 remote gaming and Moonlight remote PC gaming along with quite a lot of 4K recording. The SD810 really shows its muscle there, super low latency with it. . 4K videos top out at around 40 minutes before closing. Honestly couldn't be happier. It never gets excessively hot.
Really seems like luck of the draw on the heat side. I had a faulty unit before this one that leaked water through the headphone jack which couldn't record 4K for more than 10 mins before heating too much shutting down. It also heated a lot during average use. Maybe some are getting more thermal paste love during construction. I dunno.

dave-ro-mex said:
I'm using my Z5 Compact (white) for PS4 remote gaming and Moonlight remote PC gaming along with quite a lot of 4K recording. The SD810 really shows its muscle there, super low latency with it. . 4K videos top out at around 40 minutes before closing. Honestly couldn't be happier. It never gets excessively hot.
Really seems like luck of the draw on the heat side. I had a faulty unit before this one that leaked water through the headphone jack which couldn't record 4K for more than 10 mins before heating too much shutting down. It also heated a lot during average use. Maybe some are getting more thermal paste love during construction. I dunno.
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for a premium device.. honestly the kind of issues being reported is unacceptable.. i am still taking my chances.. but just one chance n hoping it clicks! .. I remember spending close to 1700 dollars on vaio s laptop ..... awesome looks.. horrible performance...immediately returned it.

I was really interested in buying a Z5c. but after this thread I'm thinking about buying Z3c, and I can have CyanogenMod on it.

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I was really interested in buying a Z5c. but after this thread I'm thinking about buying Z3c, and I can have CyanogenMod on it.
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I have a regular Z3 and tried recording 1080p 60fps videos with the original ROM. It overheated almost as fast as the Z5C, although it never gets as hot as the Z5C during regular use (no gaming). What I mean by overheating is that the ROM closed the camera app and didn't let me use it again until the phone cooled down.
About CyanogenMod on the Z3, be aware that the camera has a fisheye problem that hasn't been and probably will never be fixed. All your pictures will be horribly distorted, especially at short distances.

Thanks for the information, why there is this much problem with these devices!
I'm very into having small android devices, and I think these two are my only options.
I so much wanted to experience cyanogen, but camera problem! Doesn't cyanogen update reqularly?

SelfAwareDroid said:
Thanks for the information, why there is this much problem with these devices!
I'm very into having small android devices, and I think these two are my only options.
I so much wanted to experience cyanogen, but camera problem! Doesn't cyanogen update reqularly?
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For cyanogen, you would have to unlock bootloader, which will lead to a drop in camera quality, loss of x reality, super vivid mode, and other features. Plus there's the fisheye bug on Z3c on CM. Soooo you might no want to go for cyanogen. Sony's UI looks plenty stock like so I don't think there's any need to be honest.

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For cyanogen, you would have to unlock bootloader, which will lead to a drop in camera quality, loss of x reality, super vivid mode, and other features. Plus there's the fisheye bug on Z3c on CM. Soooo you might no want to go for cyanogen. Sony's UI looks plenty stock like so I don't think there's any need to be honest.
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I think there's a point when you start leaning toward the stock roms and don't see enough benefits in AOSP. I'm using the phone without root and a locked bootloader.
*I returned my Z5C, but ended up grabbing another one. What an amazing phone.