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Apparently so, according to: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=7663719&postcount=802
Reading the post, it's extremely clear that the decision to ban was not based on the evidence that is presented...it's quite obvious that the decision was made way beforehand and the "evidence" used as justification. In real life, we would call this a kangaroo court or a show trial...and these have been used in military dictatorships or autocratic governments to squash opposition.
"Distributing warez", really? We might as well ban all the developers on this forum. How many of the independent developers here actually have licenses from HTC or Qualcomm to redistribute their proprietary frameworks and libraries?...don't think there are too many.
Seeing as I banned him, and I generally dont do any rom development, what opposition would I be squashing?
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Edit Edit: Let me add on by saying that in regards to your previous statement about HTC and Qualcomm, when they give us take down notices we always comply with them and we take them as they come. Same goes for the holders of the GNU GPL, we received complaints, we sought to resolve it via multiple requests, did not get a resolution, so we took the needed action. This will not be limited to Feeyo, but as far as I know right now, other Android Kernel devs provide their sources or abide by the GNU GPL guidelines.
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Seeing as I banned him, and I generally dont do any rom development, what opposition would I be squashing?
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Agreed.
Not sure if you actually read the whole post, but it does mention that the decision was made my MODS. Not developers.
So your claim that the ban had some ulterior motive behind it doesn't really make sense.
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Apparently so, according to: xxp://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=7663719&postcount=802
Reading the post, it's extremely clear that the decision to ban was not based on the evidence that is presented...it's quite obvious that the decision was made way beforehand and the "evidence" used as justification. In real life, we would call this a kangaroo courtor a show trial..and these have been used in military dictatorships or autocratic governments to squash opposition.
"Distributing warez", really? We might as well ban all the developers on this forum. How many of the independent developers here actually have licenses from HTC or Qualcomm to redistribute their proprietary frameworks and libraries?...don't think there are too many.
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Yep I agree! And I will send an email to these companies regarding all the devs breaking these licenses distributing "warez" on this forum.
Mod edit: This was a sock puppet account of Feeyo's
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Reading the post, it's extremely clear that the decision to ban was not based on the evidence that is presented...it's quite obvious that the decision was made way beforehand and the "evidence" used as justification. ... [snip]
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What is quite obvious is that the this poster hasn't read carefully the post he linked to.
I normally don't like supporting mods; (it's bad for my anarchistic image); but this time they have it exactly right. Well done for getting there at last.
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Yep I agree! And I will send an email to these companies regarding all the devs breaking these licenses distributing "warez" on this forum.
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Dude unban my account? I am not an alt of Feeyo!!!
Mod edit: Well then Oxlab of cronosprojects who chooses to leave a public note rather than to contact the site's admin, consider this this warning the last
And that was the end of good roms for Hero when Feeyo is gone that for shure.
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And that was the end of good roms for Hero when Feeyo is gone that for shure.
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Sad but true
Hope he will come back... I don´t get it, why did he close the entire Cronos Project?
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And that was the end of good roms for Hero when Feeyo is gone that for shure.
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Sad but true
Hope he will come back... I don´t get it, why did he close the entire Cronos Project?
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Read this thread. It explains in more detail what the issue is.
And please don't be so naive to believe Feeyo's rom's are the only "good" rom's. That is a subjective perspective which differs from individual to individual. To force your view upon others is down right rude IMHO.
We can only speculate as to why Feeyo has closed the project but it is a shame when these licensing issues happen. It is typically due to the nature of western economies forcing the traditional all-rights reserved copyright laws upon everyone through mainstream culture, instead of moving towards much more community based copyleft licenses which research has shown to improve creativity and improve the rate of progress. IMHO this is an incredible shame.
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Read this thread. It explains in more detail what the issue is.
And please don't be so naive to believe Feeyo's rom's are the only "good" rom's. That is a subjective perspective which differs from individual to individual. To force your view upon others is down right rude IMHO.
We can only speculate as to why Feeyo has closed the project but it is a shame when these licensing issues happen. It is typically due to the nature of western economies forcing the traditional all-rights reserved copyright laws upon everyone through mainstream culture, instead of moving towards much more community based copyleft licenses which research has shown to improve creativity and improve the rate of progress. IMHO this is an incredible shame.
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Its funny you should mention that, this is EXACTLY what GPL is
Does anybody know why the Cronos Project site is offline?
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Does anybody know why the Cronos Project site is offline?
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Read http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=754401
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Its funny you should mention that, this is EXACTLY what GPL is
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Indeed - the android forums are a great example of the creativity. Maybe i'll do a research project on it... (my uni degree final project was on copyrights/copyleft theories )
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Indeed - the android forums are a great example of the creativity
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mwahahaha
Ya, our fixes on bugs (hex-code binary edits, framework resigns, bluetooth, etc...) are all completely legal. And everything is fine. We dont break any licenses of 3rd party companies. Ya... now... i got it. We take libcamera.so out of HTC builds and reinject them onto self-made roms.
mwahaha. cmon, this is ridiculous. We (in here) brake licenses (not all roms, but mosts), and there is nothing better to do than attacking a dev cause of a (gpl'ed) kernel* ?
I need a beer.
*which he shared with other ROM devs (as a binary !!!). The community was working, 2 other ROM's had a great kernel.
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+1 or make it two Been quite a day
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Ya, our fixes on bugs (hex-code binary edits, framework resigns, bluetooth, etc...) are all completely legal. And everything is fine. We dont break any licenses of 3rd party companies. Ya... now... i got it. We take libcamera.so out of HTC builds and reinject them onto self-made roms.
mwahaha. cmon, this is ridiculous. We (in here) brake licenses (not all roms, but mosts), and there is nothing better to do than attacking a dev cause of a (gpl'ed) kernel* ?
I need a beer.
*which he shared with other ROM devs (as a binary !!!). The community was working, 2 other ROM's had a great kernel.
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The GPL requires kernels be distributed as sources, and not merely as binaries. Hence the distribution was unlawful, and XDA acted upon request from GPL users.
If HTC, the holders of the copyright to the other things you mentioned, were to issue a C&D against the site, it would be dealt with properly, as any other site would deal with it.
But I would point to a discussion I had with some of Cronos' developers today on their IRC channel, where I (and they) discussed how the lack of sources now meant they are unable to continue to work on this ROM. This lock-in, relying on one person to permit them to enjoy GPL code is what is absolutely prohibited in the GPL, and hence the requirement for the sources to be made available.
This doesn't benefit users, who are now left to pick an alternative ROM if they wish to continue to receive updates, and it doesn't benefit other developers who could have continued with any work in progress that feeyo has left behind.
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The GPL requires kernels be distributed as sources, and not merely as binaries. Hence the distribution was unlawful, and XDA acted upon request from GPL users.
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I know the GPL.
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But I would point to a discussion I had with some of Cronos' developers today on their IRC channel, where I (and they) discussed how the lack of sources now meant they are unable to continue to work on this ROM. This lock-in, relying on one person to permit them to enjoy GPL code is what is absolutely prohibited in the GPL, and hence the requirement for the sources to be made available.
This doesn't benefit users, who are now left to pick an alternative ROM if they wish to continue to receive updates, and it doesn't benefit other developers who could have continued with any work in progress that feeyo has left behind.
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Ack that. I dont wanna defend Feeyo,...
but if the MOD's start to force the GPL and credits, they should do it right. From NOW on... and for ALL ROMs ! If not... this (whole mess) was just 90% against Feeyo, and only 10% against a license.
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Apparently not, or you wouldn't be saying "BBBBUT HE DID SHARE THE BINARY!!!!!111oneeleven" as if that excuses it somehow.
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The GPL requires kernels be distributed as sources, and not merely as binaries. Hence the distribution was unlawful, and XDA acted upon request from GPL users.
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Just tried to find the Kernel-Sources for Villain-ROM at the Site in your Signature ( {placeholderforworldwideweb}.villainrom.co.uk ). Please can you give me a hint where to search? (Without to Donate!)
Thanks,
Albert
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but if the MOD's start to force the GPL and credits, they should do it right. From NOW on... and for ALL ROMs ! If not... this (whole mess) was just 90% against Feeyo, and only 10% against a license.
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In a gesture of good faith towards the Hero xda-developers community, a mod audit of all actively distributed ROMs (akin to what is seen here) needs to be conducted in order to discover which are non-GPL compliant. This would show the community that the preceding events were not initiated by particular individuals/dev teams (with moderator support) against Feeyo and Cronos Droid for issues not encompassing the GPL.
Hello
3.2 is lagy and boring with out root ,so which custom Rom is the fastest and most stable for the a500 that support the HDMI, TETHER ROOT , ARABIC LANGUG ,GPS ,USB STUFF , 3G DONGLE , etc
Check this thread
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Check this thread
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thanks
But what about the HDMI is it working and the rotation lock
There is a rom called Thor did anyone try it
http://www.tegraowners.com/?cat=7
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thanks
But what about the HDMI is it working and the rotation lock
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Why wouldn't that work ?
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There is a rom called Thor did anyone try it
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is breaking GPL, and not allowed here, so no one here tried it and made positive comments on it unless they agree with breaking GPL.
breaking GPL means stealing other peoples work and takes creds for it.
Once again, the usual about the GPL. The end user really doesn't care about this debate, you know. The matter is far from settled, what you said is just the position of the XDA admins. And I can understand the forum policy of not allowing a link to Thor's site for that reason, it is their forum and their rules.
If you don't want to use Thor's mods, by all means, don't use them. If you think that linking to his site is against the rules, go ahead and report the post to the mods. But don't go on around accusing people of being thieves or pirates simply because they disagree with you on such a trivial matter.
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Once again, the usual about the GPL. The end user really doesn't care about this debate, you know. The matter is far from settled, what you said is just the position of the XDA admins. And I can understand the forum policy of not allowing a link to Thor's site for that reason, it is their forum and their rules.
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The more valid version is its a "pireted" kernel.. seems silly since all that is needed to make it not pireted is making the code avalible to those that download it.
I can't stop the average user from using it.. Just like I can't stop you from downloading a movie.. You may think of the changes under fair use, I don't know (GPL does not remove any rights under fair use). But I hope the understanding that its distributed in a way not desired by the creators (of at least most of the code) is understoo.. And that linux could not be what it is without this code sharing.
Since no one is asking for money just a simple access to the source code that github will host for free.. I don't get why you want to simply accept such a pirited kernel if alternatives exist. Also as the open source dev I must strive to promote / create such alternatives.
Well, as you say, Thor's kernel may or may not fall under fair use policy. I too don't know. And I am not advocating its use, or abstaining from using it. What I do object to is calling people pirate or thief , just because they use a free mod for a free operational system. GPL or no GPL, calling someone a thief (just like you accused me of downloading movies, without any cause or basis) is just bad manners.
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Well, as you say, Thor's kernel may or may not fall under fair use policy. I too don't know. And I am not advocating its use, or abstaining from using it. What I do object to is calling people pirate or thief , just because they use a free mod for a free operational system. GPL or no GPL, calling someone a thief (just like you accused me of downloading movies, without any cause or basis) is just bad manners.
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Thor is using the licence outside its licence (unless it is to be considered fair use); this is the deffinition of a software pirate like it or not.. (This is unless source code is released to those that request)
You are not a thief unless you distribute the kerel and are requested for the code: GPL says nothing about you needing the code as an end user, unless you request it, and if you have not requested and Thor has given you permission to use the kernel you are *Not* a pirate.
As for theif... Its the *AA's that call software pirate's thifs.. and much more for their own ends than people on XDA wany to discurage GPL code not released under terms of the licence.
Anyone confused about licences ought to read some..
Hey guys,
I've been developing for Android as a kernel developer from around a year, and one thing I like about it is that it is open. It helps in getting patches from other developers, and implement new features.
Recently I've started learning Application Development, and I feel there is one thing that is missing with it. The Openness like the AOSP android source and ROM's...
So here, I am to kick-start a project to develop Open Source Android Applications. We can have a collection of different apps, and update them on the market for the whole world to use.
OpenDroidApps
Different Apps Planned:
Launcher
Messaging
Contacts
Dialer
Music Player
And Many More...
So, this is a request to all the app developers out there, to come join me in developing a collection of different apps with excellent features and options.
Required:
App Developers
Sources to start of the apps
Website
nice idea
specially the music player one
fire_kid2003 said:
nice idea
specially the music player one
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Thanks
Shouldb start working on the project today...
sources will be from the android 4.0.4 r1.2...
And any developer wanting to contribute to the project let me know...
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I am confused whether I can use the android open source code provided by google as the base to build the apps ? Will it be violating and licence ? Can anyone clear my doubts ?
Read the licence, for the most part, if your code stays open, you are safe in forking a project. As long as you dont sell the code as your own and keep it opensource. That way improvements cant be submitted upstream, which is the core of FOSS, enhancing projects, fixing bugs and building better software
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Read the licence, for the most part, if your code stays open, you are safe in forking a project. As long as you dont sell the code as your own and keep it opensource. That way improvements cant be submitted upstream, which is the core of FOSS, enhancing projects, fixing bugs and building better software
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But i will be changing the package names initially itself...coz i dont think you can upload an app to the market with the package com.android.... So is this allowed?
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Dharam_Maniar said:
But i will be changing the package names initially itself...coz i dont think you can upload an app to the market with the package com.android.... So is this allowed?
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Wouldn't be allowed most probably, you'll need to change the package name and possibly add a note starting that you used sources from blah and blah.
Even if the same package name was allowed, you'ld be signing your apps with your own key, and the original apps on the device would be signed by the OEM's key, but with the package name being the same, Play Store would show it as an update, but installing it won't work, and that'ld cause issues.
So, as long as you name it anything other than the default name, and provide source code to public, and keep the apps free, it won't cause any problem.
Read through the Play Store ToS once if you're in doubt, or contact the staff if you still have doubts
I am interested. Just started with app development a couple of months back
Also intersted ill help with anythong....
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I would also help, if needed
Add Clock to the app list: Most proprietary clock apps provide timer and stopwatch but aosp does not - so it should be added
I think it is not needed to do another launcher - there are enough aut there.
And the license thing: nearly everything in android is Apache licensed, which means that you only need to mention original source in the app - it is not needed to publish the source code, however i would like to say that i would not work on a project that is licensed proprietary or pseudo-free (GPL)
MaR-V-iN
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I am interested. Just started with app development a couple of months back
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Also intersted ill help with anythong....
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I would also help, if needed
Add Clock to the app list: Most proprietary clock apps provide timer and stopwatch but aosp does not - so it should be added
MaR-V-iN
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Thanks for the interest guys...
I was waiting for a reply on the licence issue...Seems there shouldn't by any problems...
So we can start off with the project...
I'll try to setup everything soon and we can then work on the apps
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I was waiting for a reply on the licence issue...Seems there shouldn't by any problems...
So we can start off with the project...
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See my post - i wasnt fast enough in editing
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See my post - i wasnt fast enough in editing
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I didn't understand. The project will have all the apps on the market for everyone to download, and the source code will be hosted on github so that we can improve the code be providing patches...So you are interested or no ?
For web i can help you
Let me know
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I didn't understand. The project will have all the apps on the market for everyone to download, and the source code will be hosted on github so that we can improve the code be providing patches...So you are interested or no ?
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Just saying it is open source does not make clear which license to use - i would suggest Apache License as it is my favourite one and i would not like GPL as i hate how they force developers to make everything opensource what is really **** for business developers...
Just say it will be Apache License and you got me in
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MaR-V-iN said:
Just saying it is open source does not make clear which license to use - i would suggest Apache License as it is my favourite one and i would not like GPL as i hate how they force developers to make everything opensource what is really **** for business developers...
Just say it will be Apache License and you got me in
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Actually speaking, I don;t understand most of the license stuff...
But If we see the source of the apps provided by google in AOSP, it says
/*
* Copyright (C) 2007 The Android Open Source Project
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* Licensed under the Apache License, Version 2.0 (the "License");
* you may not use this file except in compliance with the License.
* You may obtain a copy of the License at
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* http://www.apache.org/licenses/LICENSE-2.0
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* Unless required by applicable law or agreed to in writing, software
* distributed under the License is distributed on an "AS IS" BASIS,
* WITHOUT WARRANTIES OR CONDITIONS OF ANY KIND, either express or implied.
* See the License for the specific language governing permissions and
* limitations under the License.
*/
So, I guess it will be Apache Licence...But I would like to tell you, that these apps will be complete open source...Its not a project for business but for developing great apps for the community, by the community...Anyone and everyone can help in improving these apps.
I'm no dev but if I'm understanding correctly you will set up the environment on github ,everyone can just push in code and from time to time u publish the latest apks to the market right?
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bartoloandre98 said:
I'm no dev but if I'm understanding correctly you will set up the environment on github ,everyone can just push in code and from time to time u publish the latest apks to the market right?
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Yes... You understand correct...
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Yes... You understand correct...
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Make an org on github, would be the best way
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Make an org on github, would be the best way
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did that long back
Just busy with my other project also...i.e. the DarkKnight Kernel for CheckROM ICS (Galaxy S2)
Hello,
i want to present you my latest open source library for android:
By using adblocker or activating the airplane mode it is possible to bypass the display of advertisement like admob banners in apps.
Now you can prevent this behaviour by using this library.
Instead of the blocked out admob banners show your banners for own products or products of your partners. The banners are stored within the app and can be displayed instead.
The project is a lib project with a sample project to show you how easy it is to integrate it into your project.
There is a basic implementation and an advanced implementation with callbacks.
It is possible to use banner ads and full screen ads at same time.
https://code.google.com/p/android-alliance-ads
Apps that use this library:
ID Card Scanner (Banner Ads)
My Instructions (Banner Ads)
Levi the Knight (Fullsceen Ads)
Best regards
Droidspirit
First reply,
Have no idea what to write
Just gonna say "Thanks"
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Is this lib a wrapper for admob?
Nonta72 said:
First reply,
Have no idea what to write
Just gonna say "Thanks"
Sent from my room mate's computer
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You know everyone could read this??
You are about to get quite a lot of hate, I know cause I'm starting to hate you.
So what ?
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You know everyone could read this??
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I know everyone can read it as well -_-
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Curses!!... Oops sorry couldn't control my emotions..
Anyway, like you said this is a lib that will contain ads for offline display, that means this could be really bulky to include in apps?
I think this is good
Not because I like ads but as written many people disable the ads and the developer doesn't earn as he should
Good idea and for sure developers will use it
Yes, the lib is a wrapper for admob.
Anyway, like you said this is a lib that will contain ads for offline display, that means this could be really bulky to include in apps?
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Your own banners use exactly the same dimensions as the admob banners. The normal user will not notice a difference to the admob banners.
You are about to get quite a lot of hate
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I hope it. The slogan is: "The scrounger have to pay"
You can test the lib in all my apps.
Thanks for the positive feedback
I just hope that all the developers will add a "pro" version of all apps released with this lib. I would rather pay cash than be annoyed by ads and banners.
Being forced to view ads without the ability to pay (or block!) for them to go away leads to uninstallation in my device. Every time.
I use an adblocker, but in saying that I pay for apps that are useful and solid.
A big decider for me is not only design in function but design in appearance.
The adblocker helps in making my choice to buy an app by removing distractions that are additional to the design and function.....
For me if I can't get a clean first impression then I probably don't want to spend time imagining how the app will work without advertising.
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Yes, the lib is a wrapper for admob.
Your own banners use exactly the same dimensions as the admob banners. The normal user will not notice a difference to the admob banners.
I hope it. The slogan is: "The scrounger have to pay"
You can test the lib in all my apps.
Thanks for the positive feedback
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Just a notice if you patch the ads with offline mode you'll get no ads not even your own ads just a hint
[24th May i'm on vacation. so no work will be done] JAPAN HERE I COME :]
Yes, i know. The offline mode is also just for testing and possibly increases the willingness to buy.
Many users enable the airplane mode while playing games to disable ads. But that no longer works with the library.
I hope most users do not think like me but i really hate the advertised product when it shows up constantly!
How do you earn money with prepackaged ads ? How do you monetize this ?
With own banners you earn no money. but you can promote your other apps. or you show banner on another developer and he in turn for you. So you increase the breadth of your apps.
Good step
I block adds. Not to see no advertising but to protect my privacy.
Users should be able to decide weather the want to be tracked by add companies or not.
I totally understand that some developers don't want to sell the apps but need some money for further development. If the adds are stored locally no tracker will be informed in real time.
Offline ads? Incredibly annoying and will reduce my support of Devs that go this route. Finding innovative ways to antagonize end users is ill considered. It's dismaying when Devs use ads as their primary (or worse, sole) revenue stream. I have absolutely no problem with Devs who have an ad free paid version and an ad supported "free" version. You do deserve to be compensated for your work. But realize that there is a right way and wrong way to go about that.
If your work is interesting enough for me to install, I for one will buy the paid version app. Devs that do not have an ad free alternative should expect a lot of hate. Well deserved hate. There is a lot a good work by Devs to be admired on this site. Please don't make it hard to support your work. Or erode end user loyalty by totally alienating us.
Hey, nice lib! I will have fun figuring out how to block it entirely in all ROMS I release. Hell, maybe I'll make an exposed module too.
As a developer, it's your right to decide how to try and generate revenue from your work.
And, as an end-user, it's my right to not have to look at ugly banner ads. Honestly...how many deliberate clicks have you EVER seen on a banner ad? I can't think of anybody in their right mind who would ever want to click one.
Here's a better idea...instead of helping others to continue to force crap on users...either make the app entirely free, or make one feature-restricted version and one premium version. You know...make us want to pay for more STUFF instead of less CRAP.
But no, really...I will be working out a way to block this ridiculous idea. Thanks.
I don't dev for andro but nice lib. Hope devs would make a good use of this and give a way out of the adds (ads removal in app purchase !)
Congratulations for portal appearance !
Gillion said:
How do you earn money with prepackaged ads ? How do you monetize this ?
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You can put a banner to buy ccleaner for your computer and use a customized link to get some money on the buy, you can put an ads for a paid app you made yourself ... just an example, there's multiple ways. Imagination is the key.
It was all nice and good but..
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Levi the Knight (Fullsceen Ads)
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Allowing this kind of ads to show with your lib will just make people who don't mind well placed ads (unobtrusive banners, ads in the settings screen) look for a way to disable your lib.
Although there is no (yet) statistics showing the real number to how bad the piracy on Android is, there are reports saying more than 90% of installs on Android were not paid for (Google). There have been lots and lotsa blows exchange between developers and hackers (and for gods sake this is never gonna end). Anti-piracy solutions are being discussed here and there, all the discussions are (eventually) pointing towards server authentication as the only way to counter piracy effectively.
As a developer, I am not excused from all this hack-and-anti-hack things. And (obviously) I have no better solution than anyone else. Here, I am gonna share a small library that I have coded to help scan for pirate apps on the device. This library is really simple, what it does is to grab a list (I called it pirate-app-list) from the internet and scan it through the device to determine whether an offended app is installed on the device.
This project is actually a product from the 1st suggestion in this XDA thread. In the thread, it recommends to search for the pirate apps and force the user to uninstall it. I implemented the former part of the suggestion, while leaving the latter to the developers to decide. The only difference that I have made is to put this static list on the internet instead of hard-coding it to save us the trouble of updating the app for the purpose of updating the list.
This project is by no means a solution to anti-hacking. Rather, its a hope that developers can work together to make sure users stay away from those apps (by forcing/reminding them to uninstall it). I believe those apps will not survive if it does not gain enough active users? Or maybe it does..
This project is open-sourced on GitHub together with the pirate-app-list. Feel free to check it out.
Currently, only "Lucky Patcher" and "Freedom" are listed on the pirate-app-list (with filters). Anybody interested in the project are free to join so we can work on the list and more importantly, the definition of what a pirate app is.
Your feedback is very much appreciated.
Thank you.
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Lucky patcher is also used for functions that do not concern piracy, such as running two versions of the same app... I think that you can't force or continuosly remind a user to uninstall an app that he needs.
Edit: Also, I think that most of the piracy is based on pirated apk, not apps like LP or Freedom, which only act for IAP. The solution to prevent IAP piracy is server validation, but for pirated APK it's not.
Coraz said:
Lucky patcher is also used for functions that do not concern piracy, such as running two versions of the same app... I think that you can't force or continuosly remind a user to uninstall an app that he needs.
Edit: Also, I think that most of the piracy is based on pirated apk, not apps like LP or Freedom, which only act for IAP. The solution to prevent IAP piracy is server validation, but for pirated APK it's not.
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Thank you for your reply.
Actually, as I have pointed out in the thread, this project implements only the scanner part, it doesn't act for the developers. Developers have to decide what they want to do with the detected piracy. Its really nice to be able to run 2 versions of the same app on 1 device, I believe ChelpuS should make another app with this feature, or without other features in Lucky Patcher.
I'm sorry, but if an app tells me to uninstall something - I'm uninstalling that app first
DANIEL TAN said:
Although there is no (yet) statistics showing the real number to how bad the piracy on Android is, there are reports saying more than 90% of installs on Android were not paid for (Google). There have been lots and lotsa blows exchange between developers and hackers (and for gods sake this is never gonna end). Anti-piracy solutions are being discussed here and there, all the discussions are (eventually) pointing towards server authentication as the only way to counter piracy effectively.
As a developer, I am not excused from all this hack-and-anti-hack things. And (obviously) I have no better solution than anyone else. Here, I am gonna share a small library that I have coded to help scan for pirate apps on the device. This library is really simple, what it does is to grab a list (I called it pirate-app-list) from the internet and scan it through the device to determine whether an offended app is installed on the device.
This project is actually a product from the 1st suggestion in this XDA thread. In the thread, it recommends to search for the pirate apps and force the user to uninstall it. I implemented the former part of the suggestion, while leaving the latter to the developers to decide. The only difference that I have made is to put this static list on the internet instead of hard-coding it to save us the trouble of updating the app for the purpose of updating the list.
This project is by no means a solution to anti-hacking. Rather, its a hope that developers can work together to make sure users stay away from those apps (by forcing/reminding them to uninstall it). I believe those apps will not survive if it does not gain enough active users? Or maybe it does..
This project is open-sourced on GitHub together with the pirate-app-list. Feel free to check it out.
Currently, only "Lucky Patcher" and "Freedom" are listed on the pirate-app-list (with filters). Anybody interested in the project are free to join so we can work on the list and more importantly, the definition of what a pirate app is.
Your feedback is very much appreciated.
Thank you.
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Sorry to tell you. But XDA rule number 6 States that you are not allowed to talk about apps like Lucky Patcher and Freedom. I hope the moderators will ignore you for a noob.
Regards,
PoseidonKing
PoseidonKing said:
Sorry to tell you. But XDA rule number 6 States that you are not allowed to talk about apps like Lucky Patcher and Freedom. I hope the moderators will ignore you for a noob.
Regards,
PoseidonKing
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You are misinformed. We allow threads such as these because they are educational and are about preventative purposes against those applications. I would suggest you actually read what the purpose of this thread is about before telling other users about what the XDA rules say, which incidentally is not your 'job' to do.