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Greystripe adds!!!!??

I asked this in apps and themes but may have been the wrong place to ask this q. I get these pop up adds when i shut down "sms scheduler" app. when teh app closes this ad pops up, its different adds but the delivery is through greystripe. how do i get rid of it? is there a reg edit that needs to be made in android or is there one within the app? i have no idea.

Yea why would you want to support the dev that made the app
::rollseyes::
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Seriously, if you don't like ads, remove the app. Ads are a way developers make money. If you don't want to support them, don't use their products. Simple as that. Please don't try to block ads because you feel entitled to free software without ads. That's virtually on the brink of pirating in my opinion.

no, seriously, if the app had the typical adds on the bottom of the ap that doesnt interfeer with teh ap, well then fine. but this whole page ad is rediculous. and my question wasnt about you opinion on the matter it was about how to get rid of it. if the dev would charge a small fee like everyone else....fine too.
you opinion doesnt matter to me one bit and opinions are like your butthole, everyone has one and they all stink.

MaliciousOne said:
Yea why would you want to support the dev that made the app
::rollseyes::
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if the moron would put a fee on it then there would be some support, but since he is getting paid by advertisers instead of the ones who actually use the app then he gets my original question and i will find a way around it.

I'll make it easy on everyone by telling a tiny white lie:
You can't.

Tregrad said:
no, seriously, if the app had the typical adds on the bottom of the ap that doesnt interfeer with teh ap, well then fine. but this whole page ad is rediculous. and my question wasnt about you opinion on the matter it was about how to get rid of it. if the dev would charge a small fee like everyone else....fine too.
you opinion doesnt matter to me one bit and opinions are like your butthole, everyone has one and they all stink.
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Whatever. Its not just my opinion that if you don't like the terms of an app, you should just not use it. Its common courtesy. If you don't like the ads that the developer uses, you don't use their app. Simple as that. And this is a developer forum, so you aren't going to get much support for trying to circumvent a developer's ads. You should also look into an attitude adjustment. You're a bit edgy and cynical. Good day.

superlinkx said:
Whatever. Its not just my opinion that if you don't like the terms of an app, you should just not use it. Its common courtesy. If you don't like the ads that the developer uses, you don't use their app. Simple as that. And this is a developer forum, so you aren't going to get much support for trying to circumvent a developer's ads. You should also look into an attitude adjustment. You're a bit edgy and cynical. Good day.
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Not taking any sides here, just two cents..
If a dev puts all the hard work it takes into creating a great app then shame on him if he chooses to support it solely with ads and doesn't give people the opportunity to buy it.
If I like an app then I pay for it. If it has ads and there is no paid version then I block the ads because I D.E.S.P.I.S.E ads.
I don't understand why some developers don't offer a paid version of their apps anyways??

superlinkx said:
Whatever. Its not just my opinion that if you don't like the terms of an app, you should just not use it. Its common courtesy. If you don't like the ads that the developer uses, you don't use their app. Simple as that. And this is a developer forum, so you aren't going to get much support for trying to circumvent a developer's ads. You should also look into an attitude adjustment. You're a bit edgy and cynical. Good day.
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Edgy And cynical? Hmm... should I ? Nah I digress. The post before me explains what I ALREADY said with less cynicism, for the hyper sensitive ones. Me, or should I correctly say "I" could really care less about your metrosexual "feelings"
Just give an option to purchase an add free version of your app and you won't piss off people and you will assuredly make even more money.
Basic marketing, if you piss off potential customers you won't sell crap, and NO ONE........even you, likes adds, so please get down off your high horse and be real.
Have a gander at his ratings.......no one likes the adds and his ratings are in the tank. perhaps you can learn a lesson or two from this thread while making apps ADDS = NO MONEY
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SMS Scheduler: Love it or leave it!

Putting ads in app?

What's the best way to put ads in an app and which is the best service to use?
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Depends on the app, I use admob, pays like crap lol. But they are all owned by goggle so yea lol.
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Oh didn't realise admob was owned by Google
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Ok so what is the easiest way t put them in my app?
I am signed up to admob now but don't understand how i put them in my app.

You would be better off running your own ad server and selling advertising... there are way too many jackass developers here on xda who make mods and apps to kill ads. I respect some for their work... but I think it's BS that they screw other developers by killing ads.

androidworkz said:
You would be better off running your own ad server and selling advertising... there are way too many jackass developers here on xda who make mods and apps to kill ads. I respect some for their work... but I think it's BS that they screw other developers by killing ads.
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agreed.. I have no issue with users manually modifying their host file or even providing a list you can update your host files with however all the roms including a host file that basically blocks any money generation for devs is a bit off the deep end.
As for the OP's question you need to follow the PDF guide in the admob site for how to install ads to your application. There is really no better way of explaining it over how they did in that file.
http://www.admob.com/docs/AdMob_Android_SDK_Instructions.pdf

I figured out how to do it by watchin a youtube video on it, just go to youtube and search "using admob android" or something like that, theres a bunch of different ones but the one I used was by some guy who say's he's from "fragger games in London"... he'll walk you through it, and then once you download the zip file on the admob site, you can copy and paste the code from the pdf file inside it

hey,
You should try some of the app store's developers platforms.... I think they are the best way to go about. Try GetJar, InMobi, etc.
Cheers

androidworkz said:
You would be better off running your own ad server and selling advertising... there are way too many jackass developers here on xda who make mods and apps to kill ads. I respect some for their work... but I think it's BS that they screw other developers by killing ads.
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So I'm screwing developers by having an adblocker?
I wasn't going to tap on the ad anyway. The ads never have anything good in them, they always look like scams. Its like those kind of ads you see on porn sites that say "HOT GIRLS NEAR YOU!" or something like that, its all fake or seems fake.
I'd bet that almost every ad click is completely accidental.
I wish we could remove the ads altogether. All ads do for the user is make the experience poorer, taking away screen real estate and usually looking hideous.

I wasn't going to tap on the ad anyway. The ads never have anything good in them, they always look like scams. Its like those kind of ads you see on porn sites that say "HOT GIRLS NEAR YOU!" or something like that, its all fake or seems fake.
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How do you know that the porn ads that say "HOT GIRLS NEAR YOU!" are scams?

I use Admob too, have made like 60 cents so far lol. But my App isn't very popular (yet!) Once you get into the >250,000 category I think money starts rolling in.

How do you advertise in your apps?

Hi! I'm Dylan, the xda intern :victory:
I'm doing some research on how devs monetize their apps. We're currently exploring ways to help you make more money from your apps and we'd like to find out about what you currently do. If you could please, please take this short survey, it would be much appreciated! We promise to keep everything confidential; in fact, the survey is anonymous.
Thanks again! :laugh:
~dylan

Gave the survey.
Where can i see the results?

ablawle which
Make an account in Admob by google. And read this monetization in developer.android

Forums
Posting on forums or other websites that allow it.

Today in this competitive world whether you have an iPad app...., Android app or any Mobile app you need to advertise to make people know about your app. very important factor for advertising your app is effectively determining where and how to advertise your app.effective app advertising requires mainly 4 key areas....
Brand
Buzz
Balanced opportunity
Social Media support

I have the same problem.
2 weeks ago I published an Android app but very few people tried it.
The market is full of apps so it's hard to acquire visibility.
So I'm looking for websites to advertise it.

admob sucks
I have like 40,000 plus downloads on admob. got like 9 dollars. U don't need to advertise. Just pick a name. They will find it. The market is large

Posting on forums, when allowed
Contacting websites and suggesting the app for review
Using admob for monetization

We tried admob too, no luck there. Posting on forums (where allowed), trying to make a good icon and description and looots of luck
we tried getting some reviews done too, but didn't see any rise in downloads. Also we got into a printed medium too, which didn't seem to have much impact either.

posting it on social network like google+,fb+twitter+forum is way better than admob

Yes idlike to know this
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One major problem, (for example with google play) is that they dont actually give a chance
for new developers to promote their applications
Our apps hide under a pile of dozen of others.
One sulution
A random application could be featured on the main entry page every hour.
This will balance the major companies promoting their stuff. And if the app is good, it wil get
the hype to climb up
Unfortunately we dont see that comming soon.

carbonpeople said:
One sulution
A random application could be featured on the main entry page every hour.
This will balance the major companies promoting their stuff. And if the app is good, it wil get
the hype to climb up
Unfortunately we dont see that comming soon.
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And why? Because there are lots of crappy apps out there. I'm glad (even from a developer standpoint) that this won't happen.

nikwen said:
And why? Because there are lots of crappy apps out there. I'm glad (even from a developer standpoint) that this won't happen.
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a) Half of the apps in google play are NOT crap. Have you seen them promoted ?
I can point to some excelent apps (better than the well known competition) with
so little downloads that looks suspicius
b) Even imdb has a heuristics system to remove biased/suspicius rankings, so surely
google can do that. A crap-free promoting system can be created
But it seems that
1. Either major companies want to clear out small competition on google play
or
2. Or... some developers created a good highly-downloaded app and had their
idea stollen from somebody else who created a better one, and want
to push new competition out of the way
Either way...

carbonpeople said:
a) Half of the apps in google play are NOT crap. Have you seen them promoted ?
I can point to some excelent apps (better than the well known competition) with
so little downloads that looks suspicius
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Of course, there are many good apps. I even think that this is the majority.
And I've seen those great small apps, too. (But most of them got lots of downloads within a few months. It took some time but if the app is good and unique, you will get your downloads. )
b) Even imdb has a heuristics system to remove biased/suspicius rankings, so surely
google can do that. A crap-free promoting system can be created
But it seems that
1. Either major companies want to clear out small competition on google play
or
2. Or... some developers created a good highly-downloaded app and had their
idea stollen from somebody else who created a better one, and want
to push new competition out of the way
Either way...
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I think that it is Google that doesn't want to promote the small apps.
If they did it randomly, most apps (not all!!!) would get less downloads than the bigger ones.
If they selected the small apps by hand, it would be very expensive and they wouldn't know where to start.
If they choose the big ones with many downloads (like now), they can be sure that they will get many downloads. And with downloads comes money.
I don't think it's fair, but I can't think of a better and still efficient method to select the small apps which generates as much income as the system does now.

~dylan said:
Hi! I'm Dylan, the xda intern :victory:
I'm doing some research on how devs monetize their apps. We're currently exploring ways to help you make more money from your apps and we'd like to find out about what you currently do. If you could please, please take this short survey, it would be much appreciated! We promise to keep everything confidential; in fact, the survey is anonymous.
Thanks again! :laugh:
~dylan
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well, i dont think ist good to use ads in an app anyway. better use "donations" or "Pro" Versions since ads will make your Reviews and Ratings worst.

mynote said:
well, i dont think ist good to use ads in an app anyway. better use "donations" or "Pro" Versions since ads will make your Reviews and Ratings worst.
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A combination of approaches work best. Having a facebook presence helps. Some of the very successful apps integrate with facebook very well. Some games tend to grant more time/lives if you share or like on facebook (Candy Crush, for example).
Depending on the app, limited-time trial versions are quite effective.
Agree that plain ads can be problematic as they can lead to poor reviews.. that in turn can hit your G. Play ranking and lead to fewer downloads.

Hi guys! Interesting discussion. Actually there are number of general ways to monetize an app:
Paid applications. You create an app that will charge a certain amount from the beginning.
Freemium. A software product can be downloaded free (so-called 'lite' version), while its extended, 'premium' features and services are offered for a payment.
Subscription (paid access). This monetization model originates from real magazines and newspapers, and is also very widespread.
In-app purchases.
Ad banners, texts, videos - this monetization model is constantly growing, encompassing the market of free applications.
User base. When the free software you own finally becomes popular, wins an audience, it can also be used for further monetization.

MobiDevCorp said:
Hi guys! Interesting discussion. Actually there are number of general ways to monetize an app:
Paid applications. You create an app that will charge a certain amount from the beginning.
Freemium. A software product can be downloaded free (so-called 'lite' version), while its extended, 'premium' features and services are offered for a payment.
Subscription (paid access). This monetization model originates from real magazines and newspapers, and is also very widespread.
In-app purchases.
Ad banners, texts, videos - this monetization model is constantly growing, encompassing the market of free applications.
User base. When the free software you own finally becomes popular, wins an audience, it can also be used for further monetization.
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And which one do you prefer?

nikwen said:
And which one do you prefer?
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Actually we develop mobile apps for our clients, so it's monetization is their decision.
One of the most widespread one is freemium, but like other models it has its limitations.

How do you make money from your apps?

Hi! I'm Dylan, the xda intern :victory:
I'm doing some research on how devs monetize their apps. We're currently exploring ways to help you make more money from your apps and we'd like to find out about what you currently do. If you could please, please take this short survey, it would be much appreciated! We promise to keep everything confidential; in fact, the survey is anonymous.
Thanks again! :laugh:
~dylan

Advertising. In-App purchases.

~dylan said:
Hi! I'm Dylan, the xda intern :victory:
I'm doing some research on how devs monetize their apps....
~dylan
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I filled it in. You should add option: I use monetizing, but I fail in it

Hi,
The most popular way to monetize in mobile is by using Ads and put a price in your apps, though, the app has to be really good to get success.
Regards

How To Make Money With Mobile Apps
Here is a post dedicated to making money from mobile apps:
http://www.techibiz.com/2/post/2013/05/making-money-from-mobile-apps.html
Akshat Goel

In-app purchase is one of the best ways to make money, but it is important to first figure out if the app is actually worthy of a buy.

I was able to learn a lot about how to make money off my application by attending the Funding, Discovery, and Monetization conference hosted by The AppShow and CONNECT in San Diego, Ca. They taught me a lot of important ways to help make sure my application generates profit. I found the most difficult part of creating and monetizing an app was finding investors; this is why I'm attending The AppShow in San Diego, CA in early January to meet face-to-face with well-known investors and help get my application monetized, i'm so excited! I'm sure this show can help any app developer!

We use free apps with In-App purchases. We dont use mobile ads anymore.

I just started with admob banner ads, in near future I will consider some different advertisement companies, though I keep in mind that making ad intrusive app will not help in promotion, which leads to less downloads, and as a obvious result, small or even lack of income (...)

it depends...
~dylan said:
Hi! I'm Dylan, the xda intern :victory:
I'm doing some research on how devs monetize their apps. We're currently exploring ways to help you make more money from your apps and we'd like to find out about what you currently do. If you could please, please take this , it would be much appreciated! We promise to keep everything confidential; in fact, the survey is anonymous.
Thanks again! :laugh:
~dylan
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It depends on the nature of your app, if you app is used only one or twice then ads make no sense, if the app is used a couple of times each day, then ads makes perfect sense. Another parameter would be session duration, if your app has a very short session duration (say it shows the temprature and no more), then again ads makes less sense.
I wonder what is a good rule on when to use in-app payments Vs publishing a Pro version as a separate app.

I only tried paid apps, generate fine income.
Have thought about ads, but found it too annoying, just can't bare it.
I'm thinking about some new paying mechanism for my new app.
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Monetization of apps depend a lot on the user experience and the UI design of a mobile app. A lot of times, developers ignore these aspects and produce design elements on a hunch.
A good way to get around this problem is to use A/B testing on your mobile app. You can do it yourself or you can use a third-party platform. One of the better platforms I know of is appiterate.com

Done Young Man(?) :good:
Hope you get some insights into the current state of play for us!

App8ite said:
Done Young Man(?) :good:
Hope you get some insights into the current state of play for us!
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I didn't get you.

Daenerys Targaryen said:
It depends on the nature of your app, if you app is used only one or twice then ads make no sense, if the app is used a couple of times each day, then ads makes perfect sense. Another parameter would be session duration, if your app has a very short session duration (say it shows the temprature and no more), then again ads makes less sense.
I wonder what is a good rule on when to use in-app payments Vs publishing a Pro version as a separate app.
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This.
Depending on the nature of the app you might have a conflict of interest. Last month I published an app that helps people manage their repetitive tasks. The whole app is based on a simple interface - I want my users to spend the least possible time entering and managing their tasks to make the experience more enjoyable, but at the same time I want people to see ads and click on them; hence the conflict.
I'm currently thinking what kind of 'premium' features I can add to get rid of the ads.

Here's an example of how monetization is improved:
http://appiterate.com/how-appiterates-mobile-app-ab-testing-helped-reviews42-improve-monetization/

How, what and why of A/B testing and optimization of Android and iOS mobile games
Good resource for game developers. A funny read as well!:laugh:
http://appiterate.com/how-what-and-...optimization-of-android-and-ios-mobile-games/

pick the right market size
I am a new android developer but the thing is I used to live in China for 2 years. One of the cool thing I learned about the Chinese is that they click on ads a lot. So I decided to translated my app and distribute them in various app stores in China. It has worked well for me. It seems for China you need to get ad from local ad aggregators. They pay better than Admob.
The service I am familiar with that does that are.
Appigniter.com
Papaya SDK
Inmobi.com
onepf.org
Good luck :good:

obicho said:
I am a new android developer but the thing is I used to live in China for 2 years. One of the cool thing I learned about the Chinese is that they click on ads a lot. So I decided to translated my app and distribute them in various app stores in China. It has worked well for me. It seems for China you need to get ad from local ad aggregators. They pay better than Admob.
The service I am familiar with that does that are.
Appigniter.com
Papaya SDK
Inmobi.com
onepf.org
Good luck :good:
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Oh, thank you for that insight! I am planning on using papaya, so that's good for me.
Can you also make a list of the major Chinese app stores? It will be very appreciated.

PopNationOnline said:
Oh, thank you for that insight! I am planning on using papaya, so that's good for me.
Can you also make a list of the major Chinese app stores? It will be very appreciated.
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Sure. Here are some I can remember on top of my head
Baidu
HIAPK
Mumayi
There is more. Just go to
appigniter.com
and scroll to the bottom

ContentGuard yes or no?

Hello everyone. I've been always very keen into adding content guard to my rom. Recently I found out that there was 38% of pirated apps on an android system. I have to admit that I don't own any app which gets me premium apps right now, but I like the flexibility to explore if an app is good or not before buying. At the same time it becomes a flaw because android does not provide any sort of protection.
So the debate starts here, should this be included on the rom? Yes or no, but more importantly why?
Remember that when you install an app which was not bought, you are taking from a dev his "food supply".
Thank you,
Jorge

I liked the idea when its first implemented by Dave in Exodus, safeguard developer interest and protect user from any infected app

Hi AFAIK there are some options to return bought app in a play store within some limitted time. Also there are a lot of free test versions of apps.. just saying because i was always on side of freedom of choice.. And finally if it really give us more protection it is necessary thing but i am aware if some xposed or root apps can be blocked ... its a really hard decission Jorge lets wait for others opinions...

Yep removing thieves is always the best option! Do it I'd say --- and be prepared for idiots hatin' lol
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gerciolisz said:
Hi AFAIK there are some options to return bought app in a play store within some limitted time. Also there are a lot of free test versions of apps.. just saying because i was always on side of freedom of choice.. And finally if it really give us more protection it is necessary thing but i am aware if some xposed or root apps can be blocked ... its a really hard decission Jorge lets wait for others opinions...
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Hello. Basically what this does is protects the developer interests by not permitting apps which give the ability to have access to premium apps for free. The list is :
https://github.com/ContentGuard/Ant...roid-6.0.1/src/utils/AntiPiracyConstants.java
Only apps which MAIN purpose is pirating, are blocked.
So most likely you won't be affected
If you have any other questions, I'll try to answer these the best way possible
Alex

I would say that it is a good idea, but the number of people that don't like the idea would lead to a negative effect on the ROM and its users just like it happened to Exodus when it first got implemented.
Therefore I would be against the idea of implementing ContentGuard into the ROM.
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BTW i think if they dont want content guard they can just compile ROM wothout it.. simple solution

Just stepping in here as a moderator on XDA. Our point of view is: We do support apps like this. XDA has a rule against discussing or requesting warez. If we find any posts that are asking for help, or asking for links to download warez apps, EG an app that is on playstore but needs to be bought, or an app that has in app purchases, if a user is trying to bypass these, we remove it. So from an XDA standpoint developers are free to add ContentGuard into their rom. We have no issues with that at all.

Well I don't know what is possible with these blocked apps, i.e. if they can be used for legit things or if they are used solely for pirating other apps ecc.
If the sole purpose of those apps, is stealing, I would include this into the ROM. And If people would complain I would just tell them that stealing is not a supported feature on this ROM.
I mean, you can't go around stealing in RL, there are alarms, walls, tresors ecc. this is just an anti-theft-system for digital goods.

Stone_88 said:
Well I don't know what is possible with these blocked apps, i.e. if they can be used for legit things or if they are used solely for pirating other apps ecc.
If the sole purpose of those apps, is stealing, I would include this into the ROM. And If people would complain I would just tell them that stealing is not a supported feature on this ROM.
I mean, you can't go around stealing in RL, there are alarms, walls, tresors ecc. this is just an anti-theft-system for digital goods.
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The criteria for adding an app is whether the main purpose of the app is piracy
Alex

I'm happy either way, I don't use pirated apps and love my devs, so if it helps them add it.. If people want to use these apps then they aren't supporting their devs anyways so freeloaders and theives can get lost..

jgcaap said:
Hello everyone. I've been always very keen into adding content guard to my rom. Recently I found out that there was 38% of pirated apps on an android system. I have to admit that I don't own any app which gets me premium apps right now, but I like the flexibility to explore if an app is good or not before buying. At the same time it becomes a flaw because android does not provide any sort of protection.
So the debate starts here, should this be included on the rom? Yes or no, but more importantly why?
Remember that when you install an app which was not bought, you are taking from a dev his "food supply".
Thank you,
Jorge
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This is completely useless because there exists a xposed module which easily disables the content guard again. Have fun blocking xposed

hellcat50 said:
This is completely useless because there exists a xposed module which easily disables the content guard again. Have fun blocking xposed
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Well related to that, contenguard has also a solution where xposed module doesn't work.
Would like to know your opinion. Do you favor piracy? Why do you think is useless to fight for a more honest enviroment? Thanks

hellcat50 said:
This is completely useless because there exists a xposed module which easily disables the content guard again. Have fun blocking xposed
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The module doesn't work

TheCrazyLex said:
The module doesn't work
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It's working for sure...
I think it's quite stupid to implement anything, which has no effect. If you want pirated apps there are ways also with this module.
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lampshade90 said:
It's working for sure...
I think it's quite stupid to implement anything, which has no effect. If you want pirated apps there are ways also with this module.
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The real question i would like to see your opinion, would be this.
Google haven't done much to protect developers work.
As you know many developers donate their time for free to develop apps. And consider some apps should be used for a small fee.
Same as you going to a store and having the option to steal or to buy a book.
Sometimes we think " ah those companies are gigantic" , but they also pay to alot of people to work. Shouldn't that matter ?
As a human beeing, i've donated to xda, donated blood to hospital, donated my free time to help poor people in Portugal, donated my time to help timor (around 1996-7 when i was a kid). But when i'm providing a service, where the deal is i'll do this and in exchange i'll receive something. Don't you believe it is fair?
The big problem with the anti piracy measures, which in my opinion should be implemented by google , do not work effectivly for users. In exchange many of us get used to that reality. Right? But should we? Or should we try do something?
I came up with this thread because, I've thought about Content Guard as a measure which is not efficient to change and become a safe working enviroment for people which dedicate their lives to android. But I think we can see this as a simbol of wanting things to change from some people which are frustrated for not beeing sucessfull in their work.
So I ask you, as all users here. We live and fight our lifes to be happy. Should we embrace and try better solutions to find a balance where more people becomes happy (developers), and in exchange they'll be putting more time, doing a harder work to deliver a better app.
What do you think?
As you know i'm Democratic, and I love to discuss ideas. So please, feel free to share yours. I'll be happy to understand your perpective as it is important to find a common ground together.
Thanks

jgcaap said:
Well related to that, contenguard has also a solution where xposed module doesn't work.
Would like to know your opinion. Do you favor piracy? Why do you think is useless to fight for a more honest enviroment? Thanks
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Although I do not pirate apps, I would rather not have contentguard. Google could've easily have anti piracy measures on stock roms considering that a high percentage of apps are pirated, but they didn't, because it compromises the openness of android (I know there are a lot of additional factors to this as well.) Developers of roms shouldn't have to take it upon themselves to force users to not install certain applications because even if contentguard is present, people who pirate can easily switch over to other roms, which means that contentguard only hurts the privacy people who actually pay for apps.
I understand what the rom developers are trying to do with contentguard, but it is not effective on a large enough scale to be a viable stop to piracy, unless it is implemented google themselves (a couple thousand of people running a custom rom which happen to have contentguard vs about a billion android devices).
TLDR: No

jgcaap said:
The real question i would like to see your opinion, would be this.
Google haven't done much to protect developers work.
As you know many developers donate their time for free to develop apps. And consider some apps should be used for a small fee.
Same as you going to a store and having the option to steal or to buy a book.
Sometimes we think " ah those companies are gigantic" , but they also pay to alot of people to work. Shouldn't that matter ?
As a human beeing, i've donated to xda, donated blood to hospital, donated my free time to help poor people in Portugal, donated my time to help timor (around 1996-7 when i was a kid). But when i'm providing a service, where the deal is i'll do this and in exchange i'll receive something. Don't you believe it is fair?
The big problem with the anti piracy measures, which in my opinion should be implemented by google , do not work effectivly for users. In exchange many of us get used to that reality. Right? But should we? Or should we try do something?
I came up with this thread because, I've thought about Content Guard as a measure which is not efficient to change and become a safe working enviroment for people which dedicate their lives to android. But I think we can see this as a simbol of wanting things to change from some people which are frustrated for not beeing sucessfull in their work.
So I ask you, as all users here. We live and fight our lifes to be happy. Should we embrace and try better solutions to find a balance where more people becomes happy (developers), and in exchange they'll be putting more time, doing a harder work to deliver a better app.
What do you think?
As you know i'm Democratic, and I love to discuss ideas. So please, feel free to share yours. I'll be happy to understand your perpective as it is important to find a common ground together.
Thanks
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For me it seems, that you haven't understand the meaning of capitalism.
Some people will live some people will die. Some people will be rich, some poor, same for companies.
That's the world.
I think it's up to the developer. There are ways to make piracy harder. The harder you will make it, the more people will buy it. If you're not capable of programming an app, which is hard to Crack you should definitely change your job to something you're good at.
Your social engagement might be good for you, for me it would wasting my small amount of time. From your text you could get an intention that it's god given what you will make out of your life. It's definitely not.
I don't care if you implement this. You will make it harder to use pirated apps but it's still possible and it's work for you. So I have no opinion to this topic I just wanted state out, that it will be work for you, less people will use your rom and if you want pirated apps it's still possible.
But honestly noone will buy an app due to your implementation. Maybe it will gain you experience but nothing more....
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lampshade90 said:
For me it seems, that you haven't understand the meaning of capitalism.
Some people will live some people will die. Some people will be rich, some poor, same for companies.
That's the world.
I think it's up to the developer. There are ways to make piracy harder. The harder you will make it, the more people will buy it. If you're not capable of programming an app, which is hard to Crack you should definitely change your job to something you're good at.
Your social engagement might be good for you, for me it would wasting my small amount of time. From your text you could get an intention that it's god given what you will make out of your life. It's definitely not.
I don't care if you implement this. You will make it harder to use pirated apps but it's still possible and it's work for you. So I have no opinion to this topic I just wanted state out, that it will be work for you, less people will use your rom and if you want pirated apps it's still possible.
But honestly noone will buy an app due to your implementation. Maybe it will gain you experience but nothing more....
Sent from my A0001 using XDA-Developers mobile app
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Well is also true we live capitalism. But the way you express it is like it doesn't have flaws. Do you really believe that?
I haven't decided on adding yet. I like to listen to people, to speak and discuss. For you might be a loss of your time... But for me is information gathered among different people which I believe it is important, or I would be rather selfish on doing things without asking questions. No ? =p
Hehe.
Thank you for your honest answer.

f41lbl0g said:
Although I do not pirate apps, I would rather not have contentguard. Google could've easily have anti piracy measures on stock roms considering that a high percentage of apps are pirated, but they didn't, because it compromises the openness of android (I know there are a lot of additional factors to this as well.) Developers of roms shouldn't have to take it upon themselves to force users to not install certain applications because even if contentguard is present, people who pirate can easily switch over to other roms, which means that contentguard only hurts the privacy people who actually pay for apps.
I understand what the rom developers are trying to do with contentguard, but it is not effective on a large enough scale to be a viable stop to piracy, unless it is implemented google themselves (a couple thousand of people running a custom rom which happen to have contentguard vs about a billion android devices).
TLDR: No
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Thanks